Well isnt this the case with any cooling?
I hate to point out the obvious, but any form of cooling is heat displacement.. including ur current heatsink / fan combo.. all it does is take the heat and pump it into your case.
However the heat a 1.x Ghz cpu generates is nothing compared to the heat a 10k rpm HD generates. The harddrive has a larger surface, so feels 'cooler' per square inch, but the total amount of energy displaced is a lot bigger. (this is why case fan's are good to use)
so i dont think the comment 'fry everything else in the case' is very relevant, since the microcoolers dont change the question or situation, just the method for re-distributing the heat.
-- Chris Chabot
"I dont suffer from insanity, i enjoy every minute of it!"
Undoubtebly it will go on, if i have to hack it my self.
What many people seem to forget is that there are 2 things that are important to the development of an open source project.
One is the amount of people, that number can get very large (like linux kernel, gnome, kde, etc) and then the project can grow a lot, in a short amount of time. The non free-ness of mozilla is costing them some in open source commitment from the communities, but once its 1.0 status, im sure a lot of frustrated hackers will contribute patches
Second is time. Just about all of the most stable, most used packages in any linux distro's were not made by big companies, nor tons of concurent people, they were made by years of development..
If nautilus and mozilla were droped by the megacorps today, it might take 1 or 2 years more to get them perfect, but then they would still be the best quality software around.. it just takes time:)
-- Chris Chabot
"I dont suffer from insanity, i enjoy every minute of it!"
If crypto is outlawed, only outlaws will use crypto? Its a bit cheesy, but i think in this discussion it makes sence, if we consider crypto to be for outlaws only, we de-educate the people, and tell them that using crypto is like being an outlaw.
However my buisnessplans, source code, very private emails to girlfriend and secret documents, etc are very valueable to me, if the competition gets a hold of them, im screwed. So when i send them out encrypted, am i an outlaw? Hell no, i just dont want every script kiddie to get his hands on my info/passwords/documents/etc..
Crypto is about more then just hiding stuff from 'The Man', its about keeping things private from all people.
Thereby, does paying with a credit card over a SSL connection make me a criminal 'cause i dont want every script kiddie to have it ?:)
-- Chris Chabot
"I dont suffer from insanity, i enjoy every minute of it!"
If you go to their web page and search for:
Linux/Unix, All applications that encode/play mp3
the search form kindly informs you:
"For Unix/Linux:
There are no players that meet that description."
In other words, use linux? switch to FreeDB please:)
I hope this will put a dent in there buisness, and they might consider rethinking there buisness plan? Specialy after all the contreversy about who owns what, and didnt -I- give them the information they are charging for now?
-- Chris Chabot
"I dont suffer from insanity, i enjoy every minute of it!"
Thank you for goign out of your way and point out the obvious:)
I clearly said, one of those clueless types. The reason why there are a lot of clueless types is MS marketing (you dont need a 6 figure ms admin, its easy to use!) and the fact it does seem very easy to use, just harder to get right in practise:)
A good sysadmin with experiance would know to duplicate the production box (hardware, services, configuration, everything) and install the SP on that first. Test every application, double check again, and then after a week of making sure it didnt break anything, install on the production server.
However a clueless admin wouldnt do this. "If MS published it, and says to install it, why shouldnt i?!" MS does go out of their way saying its easy to keep the system secure, just install the SP...
Its the combination of factors that makes the situation prone to accidents.
-- Chris Chabot
"I dont suffer from insanity, i enjoy every minute of it!"
You forgot "Sacrifice a chicken when installing a service pack who's version # is a prime number" !
Anyways, those are all valid points, and is kinda what i ment to say. Most people thing adminning a NT box is simple, since its point and clickey.
Also MS advertising tells them to use NT, since its so much easier to administer and use.
That however does also seem to cause a lot of the NT problems out there. Sure there are some flaws in the design changes made in NT (i still like 3.5 best for stability, 4 is ok, 2k.. dont get me started:P), like moving the GUI and network and IIS services into ring 0 (ie kernel space) so it would be faster then most/all competitors.
Take the design choices made by NT, add some Ms marketing stating that you -dont- need a 6 figure sys admin to controll the boxes, and mix that up with some broken service packs, and you've got a great recipie for missery:)
-- Chris Chabot
"I dont suffer from insanity, i enjoy every minute of it!"
Actualy since a few service packs for NT4 broke the whole system, and products running on it, the official advice has been "download and install only the required security patches, and check bugtraq often for workarounds".
So monelithic service packages can be good (easy to use) but also quite bad in practise..
The new windows 2000 'windows update' is a good step though (same functionality as Redhat's up2date basicly). It seems to be a good middle-of-the-road style solution that pleases most people.
-- Chris Chabot
"I dont suffer from insanity, i enjoy every minute of it!"
First of all, WindowsNT lowers the threshold of using 'complex' systems ment for servers. So 'unskilled' sys admins, managing a NT server, are more likely to be clueless when it comes to security/patches/buqtrack/etc.
Secondly NT service packs do have a reputation of breaking stuff more then fixing them. This is partialy just 'FUD', but it has happend @ my company a few times that a sys admin (yes one of those of the clueless types) installed a service pack on the main NT server, it broke NT, exchange and the MsSQL server, and the network was escentialy down for 2 days.. This kind of horrors strongly demotivates sys admins from just downloading the service pack, and installing it..
Just my 2 cnts
-- Chris Chabot
"I dont suffer from insanity, i enjoy every minute of it!"
As i know universities in the US, they also own the postal office within campus grounds.
Since both use a medium owned by the university, and both are 'private communication', does this mean they also have the right to read your private (snail mail) letters?
-- Chris Chabot
"I dont suffer from insanity, i enjoy every minute of it!"
A trend in some parts of the medical world is 'shared experiances'. think AA meetings, but without the alcoholism:)
A forum where people with a certain experiance can share thoughts, fears, experiances, can be a big help for someone who is 'new' to the situation. It can be a great relief to hear ppl are living normal lives with bad alergies.. Also it can be a great comfort to know your 'not alone'.
Ofcource pls do make sure troll's dont find a place on forums like that, that could lead to very hurtfull experiances.
-- Chris Chabot
"I dont suffer from insanity, i enjoy every minute of it!"
Every time the BSD tcp/ip stack beated the Linux tcp/ip stack, masses of linux geeks threw their weight at the problem until linux came out on top.
The same is now happening with memory management, many times, on the linux kernel mailing list, people refer to 'BSD is faster in this type of operation or load', and people are coding like crazy to make linux the better party.
So why wouldnt it be posible for Mac OSX to do the same? masses of linux coders brushing up gnome/kde/xfree86/etc to get it upto spec, and maybe even better then Mac OS X.
Nothing seems to motivate a linux coder more then 'the other guys were better then you'. So heck, im hoping it will be a good thing:)
-- Chris Chabot
"I dont suffer from insanity, i enjoy every minute of it!"
Its kinda obvious you need write permission to, umm, write stuff
also install documentation (/notes) often try to cover all the bases, just in case you forgot something..
Lets not post a slashdot comment everytime a manual reads that the plug needs to be plugged in for an appliance. Specialy since microwave manuals in the US still state its not a good thing to try to dry pets in the appliance
-- Chris Chabot
"I dont suffer from insanity, i enjoy every minute of it!"
Unlike some people on slashdot who seem all to eager to throw phone numbers, residential addresses and real names out, i prefer to handle this within the confines of the company. This person will be contacted, and we will address these issues. However this does not warent a witch hunt by the community at large.
And as i am the person who submited the article to the site, i am not gonna try to dodge the bullets and shout that people should flame some one else.
-- Chris Chabot
"I dont suffer from insanity, i enjoy every minute of it!"
Our current content engine doesnt allow for user submissions. This has been and will be explained to anyone who submits content to us. Thus when i log in and post an article, it will always show up under my own name.
As far as the 'benefit of the doubt' goes, this is not something i sought to obtain. This situation has shaken us up badly as well, and i wanted to apologies to the original author of the article, and make sure everyone knew he was in his right to claim he was, in fact, the author.
The only thing i can do is take the false article offline, and state that we are sorry for the events that occured.
-- Chris Chabot
"I dont suffer from insanity, i enjoy every minute of it!"
I just woke up to see our articles being linked by slashdot, and seeing tons of emails and message threads here on slashdot about an obvious mistake. These articles (the E10k and E4500) were send to me (by email) as a user submission, and i imediatly submitted them to our site. However looking back in hindsight (which is always 20/20) i gues i could've done some more research to make sure they were unique content, and not a rip-off as they now apear to be (from the epionion.com site).
As a result, i've imediatly have taken the articles down and we will attempt to contact the user in question and have some harsh words for him.
As far as redir's comments on slashdot go, he's a good friend of mine who's known me for a long time, and felt it was imposible that i would do such a thing, thus tried to defend my name to the bitter end. The real situation wasnt clear to him then either.
New articles on the Sun servers, are being written as we speak, based on the real specs, and based on our own experiances with the E4500 and E10k (i have worked with one such a beast for one of my customers).
My, and our, apologies for the situation, we will try to be more vigilant in the future to avoid such situations. However they can never be fully avoided, even epinions.com reguarly gets faulty and non-unique user submissions. The only action you can take on this is remove the article in question as soon as posible.
Now first some coffee.. its way to early for such a headache..
-- Chris Chabot
"I dont suffer from insanity, i enjoy every minute of it!"
Personaly ive been using autorpm for the last 2 years now to automagicly update my servers...
(see http://freshmeat.net/projects/autorpm/?highlight=a utorpm for more info).
From what i gather from the redhat network description, its basicly just a redhat aproved autorpm like program.
Seen in this light, i do agree that ZDNet's bold statement of 'Bold new tech' seems a little bold on its own:)
-- Chris Chabot
"I dont suffer from insanity, i enjoy every minute of it!"
I have just donated $100 to the Duchenne MD funds in honor of Espy. Though i may not have run in to him as much as others, i think giving so much cheerfullness and knowhow to the world while your fighting your own horible battle is an example we all can admire and respect. My condolences to any friends and family of Espy. May he rest in peace, and may his work continue thru the hands of others
-- Chris Chabot "I dont suffer from insanity, i enjoy every minute of it!"
A posibly nice addon for this setup (for inclusion in the replication) is lm_sensors (search on freshmeat to find the package). This package monitors your onboard temperature monitors, and fan speeds. Write a small script that grabs the detectable values, and uploads/sends them to a central server (SQL DB is nice for this like mysql), and on the server make a quick php page to display the results. In 10 lines u can also make a php program (using the php cgi in #!/path/httpd/cgi/php instead of bash:P), that parses those values, and sends out alert emails when a work station gets overheated or one of the fans stop working.
Another nice tool to have then, is diskfree.pl (again freshmeat) which can alert you when your disks are to full, or you can script this using php or any other fav script language..
You can even write something that records the load averages, and see who needs the upgrades the most:)
What it all basicly comes down to, is making managing the computers a lil easier:)
-- Chris Chabot "I dont suffer from insanity, i enjoy every minute of it!"
Since the somewhat recent fuzz about 'being responsible for hosting content/forums' and the class acts microsoft has send./ about there kerbos documents, wouldnt it be a nice idea to host the slashdot forums on one of there sealand boxes? i would love to see MS trying to get there teeth broken on that:)
-- Chris Chabot
"I dont suffer from insanity, i enjoy every minute of it!"
It does seem weird that i read about DDOS attacks amined at slashdot on news.com, and other news sites (news.com article covering slashdot recieving the laywer letter from MS), and not on slashdot it self.. I thought the slashdot community was composed of many smart network engineers, laywers, snoopers, coders, and other forms of computer educated people.. What better place to talk about DDOS's, and let others in on solving & learning from the problem. Isnt that what build this community? If we silence our own experiances, we might as well silence others (scinical reference to MS letter)
-- Chris Chabot "I dont suffer from insanity, i enjoy every minute of it!"
Does anyone know what the status is of the raid v0.90 merger? i see in the config that raid-0 & liniear are supported, but on trying to compile them i get a ton of errors in md.c... Is this work in progress, and will i be resqued from my standard 2.2.14 kernel!:)
-- Chris Chabot "I dont suffer from insanity, i enjoy every minute of it!"
I think i'd like a combination of some of the above ideas.
First create a anounce section, in which every 'anouncement' is an article. This gives people the option to discuss every anouncement, eg those aurol 3d drivers seem to be a nice discussed item, so why stomp the discussions.
Then create a slashbox, to show the most N-recent anouncements. This alows people who are interested to see all the recent trafic on the 'anounce list', but ppl who dont care dont have to be confronted.
Then every once a 'period' eg week, biweekly or whatever, do a roundup, as we do quickies every-once-in-a-while (Tm) currently, on the main page.
This way people who want to read, and reply to everything, can.
People who have questions on this release/anouncements, have a place to discuss.
People who just care a little bit, can just read the slashbox, to get a @ a glance impression.
People who care even less, will see an article commin by every week/ every other week, and get a quick glance @ what happend, and is of intrest...
This way we should serve all people, and all desire levels.
-- Chris Chabot "I dont suffer from insanity, i enjoy every minute of it!"
Well isnt this the case with any cooling?
I hate to point out the obvious, but any form of cooling is heat displacement.. including ur current heatsink / fan combo.. all it does is take the heat and pump it into your case.
However the heat a 1.x Ghz cpu generates is nothing compared to the heat a 10k rpm HD generates. The harddrive has a larger surface, so feels 'cooler' per square inch, but the total amount of energy displaced is a lot bigger. (this is why case fan's are good to use)
so i dont think the comment 'fry everything else in the case' is very relevant, since the microcoolers dont change the question or situation, just the method for re-distributing the heat.
-- Chris Chabot
"I dont suffer from insanity, i enjoy every minute of it!"
Undoubtebly it will go on, if i have to hack it my self.
.. it just takes time :)
What many people seem to forget is that there are 2 things that are important to the development of an open source project.
One is the amount of people, that number can get very large (like linux kernel, gnome, kde, etc) and then the project can grow a lot, in a short amount of time. The non free-ness of mozilla is costing them some in open source commitment from the communities, but once its 1.0 status, im sure a lot of frustrated hackers will contribute patches
Second is time. Just about all of the most stable, most used packages in any linux distro's were not made by big companies, nor tons of concurent people, they were made by years of development..
If nautilus and mozilla were droped by the megacorps today, it might take 1 or 2 years more to get them perfect, but then they would still be the best quality software around
-- Chris Chabot
"I dont suffer from insanity, i enjoy every minute of it!"
If crypto is outlawed, only outlaws will use crypto? Its a bit cheesy, but i think in this discussion it makes sence, if we consider crypto to be for outlaws only, we de-educate the people, and tell them that using crypto is like being an outlaw.
:)
However my buisnessplans, source code, very private emails to girlfriend and secret documents, etc are very valueable to me, if the competition gets a hold of them, im screwed. So when i send them out encrypted, am i an outlaw? Hell no, i just dont want every script kiddie to get his hands on my info/passwords/documents/etc..
Crypto is about more then just hiding stuff from 'The Man', its about keeping things private from all people.
Thereby, does paying with a credit card over a SSL connection make me a criminal 'cause i dont want every script kiddie to have it ?
-- Chris Chabot
"I dont suffer from insanity, i enjoy every minute of it!"
If you go to their web page and search for:
:)
Linux/Unix, All applications that encode/play mp3
the search form kindly informs you:
"For Unix/Linux:
There are no players that meet that description."
In other words, use linux? switch to FreeDB please
I hope this will put a dent in there buisness, and they might consider rethinking there buisness plan? Specialy after all the contreversy about who owns what, and didnt -I- give them the information they are charging for now?
-- Chris Chabot
"I dont suffer from insanity, i enjoy every minute of it!"
Thank you for goign out of your way and point out the obvious :)
:)
...
I clearly said, one of those clueless types. The reason why there are a lot of clueless types is MS marketing (you dont need a 6 figure ms admin, its easy to use!) and the fact it does seem very easy to use, just harder to get right in practise
A good sysadmin with experiance would know to duplicate the production box (hardware, services, configuration, everything) and install the SP on that first. Test every application, double check again, and then after a week of making sure it didnt break anything, install on the production server.
However a clueless admin wouldnt do this. "If MS published it, and says to install it, why shouldnt i?!" MS does go out of their way saying its easy to keep the system secure, just install the SP
Its the combination of factors that makes the situation prone to accidents.
-- Chris Chabot
"I dont suffer from insanity, i enjoy every minute of it!"
You forgot "Sacrifice a chicken when installing a service pack who's version # is a prime number" !
.. dont get me started :P), like moving the GUI and network and IIS services into ring 0 (ie kernel space) so it would be faster then most/all competitors.
:)
Anyways, those are all valid points, and is kinda what i ment to say. Most people thing adminning a NT box is simple, since its point and clickey.
Also MS advertising tells them to use NT, since its so much easier to administer and use.
That however does also seem to cause a lot of the NT problems out there. Sure there are some flaws in the design changes made in NT (i still like 3.5 best for stability, 4 is ok, 2k
Take the design choices made by NT, add some Ms marketing stating that you -dont- need a 6 figure sys admin to controll the boxes, and mix that up with some broken service packs, and you've got a great recipie for missery
-- Chris Chabot
"I dont suffer from insanity, i enjoy every minute of it!"
Actualy since a few service packs for NT4 broke the whole system, and products running on it, the official advice has been "download and install only the required security patches, and check bugtraq often for workarounds".
So monelithic service packages can be good (easy to use) but also quite bad in practise..
The new windows 2000 'windows update' is a good step though (same functionality as Redhat's up2date basicly). It seems to be a good middle-of-the-road style solution that pleases most people.
-- Chris Chabot
"I dont suffer from insanity, i enjoy every minute of it!"
First of all, WindowsNT lowers the threshold of using 'complex' systems ment for servers. So 'unskilled' sys admins, managing a NT server, are more likely to be clueless when it comes to security/patches/buqtrack/etc.
.. This kind of horrors strongly demotivates sys admins from just downloading the service pack, and installing it..
Secondly NT service packs do have a reputation of breaking stuff more then fixing them. This is partialy just 'FUD', but it has happend @ my company a few times that a sys admin (yes one of those of the clueless types) installed a service pack on the main NT server, it broke NT, exchange and the MsSQL server, and the network was escentialy down for 2 days
Just my 2 cnts
-- Chris Chabot
"I dont suffer from insanity, i enjoy every minute of it!"
As i know universities in the US, they also own the postal office within campus grounds.
Since both use a medium owned by the university, and both are 'private communication', does this mean they also have the right to read your private (snail mail) letters?
-- Chris Chabot
"I dont suffer from insanity, i enjoy every minute of it!"
What poll in which you were an 'option', did you find most amusing/entertaining?
What was the most depressing?
-- Chris Chabot
"I dont suffer from insanity, i enjoy every minute of it!"
A trend in some parts of the medical world is 'shared experiances'. think AA meetings, but without the alcoholism :)
.. Also it can be a great comfort to know your 'not alone'.
A forum where people with a certain experiance can share thoughts, fears, experiances, can be a big help for someone who is 'new' to the situation. It can be a great relief to hear ppl are living normal lives with bad alergies
Ofcource pls do make sure troll's dont find a place on forums like that, that could lead to very hurtfull experiances.
-- Chris Chabot
"I dont suffer from insanity, i enjoy every minute of it!"
Every time the BSD tcp/ip stack beated the Linux tcp/ip stack, masses of linux geeks threw their weight at the problem until linux came out on top.
:)
The same is now happening with memory management, many times, on the linux kernel mailing list, people refer to 'BSD is faster in this type of operation or load', and people are coding like crazy to make linux the better party.
So why wouldnt it be posible for Mac OSX to do the same? masses of linux coders brushing up gnome/kde/xfree86/etc to get it upto spec, and maybe even better then Mac OS X.
Nothing seems to motivate a linux coder more then 'the other guys were better then you'. So heck, im hoping it will be a good thing
-- Chris Chabot
"I dont suffer from insanity, i enjoy every minute of it!"
Its kinda obvious you need write permission to, umm, write stuff also install documentation (/notes) often try to cover all the bases, just in case you forgot something.. Lets not post a slashdot comment everytime a manual reads that the plug needs to be plugged in for an appliance. Specialy since microwave manuals in the US still state its not a good thing to try to dry pets in the appliance
-- Chris Chabot
"I dont suffer from insanity, i enjoy every minute of it!"
Unlike some people on slashdot who seem all to eager to throw phone numbers, residential addresses and real names out, i prefer to handle this within the confines of the company. This person will be contacted, and we will address these issues. However this does not warent a witch hunt by the community at large. And as i am the person who submited the article to the site, i am not gonna try to dodge the bullets and shout that people should flame some one else.
-- Chris Chabot
"I dont suffer from insanity, i enjoy every minute of it!"
Our current content engine doesnt allow for user submissions. This has been and will be explained to anyone who submits content to us. Thus when i log in and post an article, it will always show up under my own name. As far as the 'benefit of the doubt' goes, this is not something i sought to obtain. This situation has shaken us up badly as well, and i wanted to apologies to the original author of the article, and make sure everyone knew he was in his right to claim he was, in fact, the author. The only thing i can do is take the false article offline, and state that we are sorry for the events that occured.
-- Chris Chabot
"I dont suffer from insanity, i enjoy every minute of it!"
Please take a look at my reply
-- Chris Chabot
"I dont suffer from insanity, i enjoy every minute of it!"
I just woke up to see our articles being linked by slashdot, and seeing tons of emails and message threads here on slashdot about an obvious mistake. These articles (the E10k and E4500) were send to me (by email) as a user submission, and i imediatly submitted them to our site. However looking back in hindsight (which is always 20/20) i gues i could've done some more research to make sure they were unique content, and not a rip-off as they now apear to be (from the epionion.com site).
As a result, i've imediatly have taken the articles down and we will attempt to contact the user in question and have some harsh words for him.
As far as redir's comments on slashdot go, he's a good friend of mine who's known me for a long time, and felt it was imposible that i would do such a thing, thus tried to defend my name to the bitter end. The real situation wasnt clear to him then either.
New articles on the Sun servers, are being written as we speak, based on the real specs, and based on our own experiances with the E4500 and E10k (i have worked with one such a beast for one of my customers).
My, and our, apologies for the situation, we will try to be more vigilant in the future to avoid such situations. However they can never be fully avoided, even epinions.com reguarly gets faulty and non-unique user submissions. The only action you can take on this is remove the article in question as soon as posible.
Now first some coffee.. its way to early for such a headache..
-- Chris Chabot
"I dont suffer from insanity, i enjoy every minute of it!"
Personaly ive been using autorpm for the last 2 years now to automagicly update my servers ...
a utorpm for more info).
:)
(see http://freshmeat.net/projects/autorpm/?highlight=
From what i gather from the redhat network description, its basicly just a redhat aproved autorpm like program.
Seen in this light, i do agree that ZDNet's bold statement of 'Bold new tech' seems a little bold on its own
-- Chris Chabot
"I dont suffer from insanity, i enjoy every minute of it!"
I have just donated $100 to the Duchenne MD funds in honor of Espy. Though i may not have run in to him as much as others, i think giving so much cheerfullness and knowhow to the world while your fighting your own horible battle is an example we all can admire and respect. My condolences to any friends and family of Espy. May he rest in peace, and may his work continue thru the hands of others
-- Chris Chabot
"I dont suffer from insanity, i enjoy every minute of it!"
A posibly nice addon for this setup (for inclusion in the replication) is lm_sensors (search on freshmeat to find the package). This package monitors your onboard temperature monitors, and fan speeds. Write a small script that grabs the detectable values, and uploads/sends them to a central server (SQL DB is nice for this like mysql), and on the server make a quick php page to display the results. In 10 lines u can also make a php program (using the php cgi in #!/path/httpd/cgi/php instead of bash :P), that parses those values, and sends out alert emails when a work station gets overheated or one of the fans stop working.
:)
:)
Another nice tool to have then, is diskfree.pl (again freshmeat) which can alert you when your disks are to full, or you can script this using php or any other fav script language..
You can even write something that records the load averages, and see who needs the upgrades the most
What it all basicly comes down to, is making managing the computers a lil easier
-- Chris Chabot
"I dont suffer from insanity, i enjoy every minute of it!"
Since the somewhat recent fuzz about 'being responsible for hosting content/forums' and the class acts microsoft has send ./ about there kerbos documents, wouldnt it be a nice idea to host the slashdot forums on one of there sealand boxes? i would love to see MS trying to get there teeth broken on that :)
-- Chris Chabot
"I dont suffer from insanity, i enjoy every minute of it!"
It does seem weird that i read about DDOS attacks amined at slashdot on news.com, and other news sites (news.com article covering slashdot recieving the laywer letter from MS), and not on slashdot it self .. .. What better place to talk about DDOS's, and let others in on solving & learning from the problem.
I thought the slashdot community was composed of many smart network engineers, laywers, snoopers, coders, and other forms of computer educated people
Isnt that what build this community? If we silence our own experiances, we might as well silence others (scinical reference to MS letter)
-- Chris Chabot
"I dont suffer from insanity, i enjoy every minute of it!"
For the privacy freaks, or just the lazy ones out there, keep in mind one can always use NYTimes's partners link (eg replace www. with partners.).s onal/050700personal-privacy.html ..
In this case the URL would be http://partners.nytimes.com/library/financial/per
This will bypass the required registrtation forms
-- Chris Chabot
"I dont suffer from insanity, i enjoy every minute of it!"
Does anyone know what the status is of the raid v0.90 merger? i see in the config that raid-0 & liniear are supported, but on trying to compile them i get a ton of errors in md.c ... Is this work in progress, and will i be resqued from my standard 2.2.14 kernel! :)
-- Chris Chabot
"I dont suffer from insanity, i enjoy every minute of it!"
I think i'd like a combination of some of the above ideas.
First create a anounce section, in which every 'anouncement' is an article. This gives people the option to discuss every anouncement, eg those aurol 3d drivers seem to be a nice discussed item, so why stomp the discussions.
Then create a slashbox, to show the most N-recent anouncements. This alows people who are interested to see all the recent trafic on the 'anounce list', but ppl who dont care dont have to be confronted.
Then every once a 'period' eg week, biweekly or whatever, do a roundup, as we do quickies every-once-in-a-while (Tm) currently, on the main page.
This way people who want to read, and reply to everything, can.
People who have questions on this release/anouncements, have a place to discuss.
People who just care a little bit, can just read the slashbox, to get a @ a glance impression.
People who care even less, will see an article commin by every week/ every other week, and get a quick glance @ what happend, and is of intrest...
This way we should serve all people, and all desire levels.
-- Chris Chabot
"I dont suffer from insanity, i enjoy every minute of it!"