if you want to play with the SSL connection support, add --with-vio -with-openssl to the configure line
To make sure you have large file support, and good speeds, use something like:
export CFLAGS="-O3 -mcpu=i686 -march=i686 -D_GNU_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE"
export CXXFLAGS="-O3 -mcpu=i686 -march=i686 -D_GNU_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE"
G'luck
(ps, yes it did compile & run perfectly for me, without any 'hacks', on rh7.1 & 7.2beta)
Actualy 9 out of 10 cases when that happens, and the hardware is locked up, it will have locked up the PCI bridge as well (they have to to communicatie), so this wont do anything.
Also if the systeem feels locked up, and its not a hardware lock, there's a good chance its the tty/console subsystem thats killed.
only in a few cases, where a run-away process would deal out so much of a beating to the system, then the better multithreading will help in the way you described.
(ps, telnetting in is always a good work around for a system with a dead keyboard/console:P)
Sure the NSA deserves a good look to when they submit source to the community. However this over zealous style of responding is a bit weird.
I mean, of all the companies contributing crypto and security work, who do you know you can -absolutely- trust?
I would think the NSA has the most to gain if this worked well (less work for them defending the information of this country), and the most to loose of they were cought doing a conspiricy (in open source plain sight no less).
Double check any submission that claims to enhance security? sure, sounds healthy to me, however singling out the NSA will only make out state of security worse.
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I've been running this patch on my desktop and notebook systems for a few days now, and my experiances have been very(!) positive. Desktop interaction, games, movies and music all interact a lot smoother (quite noticable on high loads, like compiles etc)
However as someone pointed out, the average throughput does suffer somewhat (last figure i heard was 4% decrease). This might not be the right thing for a server.
However if you primary use a system as a desktop system, go for it and try it out! it could use all the eyeballs it can get.
From my experiances experimenting with java, it is mostly due to the fact that mozilla uses a java2 envirioment. (the jre1.3.xpi and sun java and blackdown java plugins for mozilla are all 1.3+ based).
Most of the applets you will find on the web will still be java 1 based. (This is what IE ships, duh)
There are some 'known' problems, leaking resources, threads and not relaunching applets when a java 1 applet is loaded in a java2 VM
big miss feature if you ask me, but in both sun's bug DB, and mozilla's bugzilla, its gotten marked as 'solved/wontfix', so don't hold your breath to see it resolved;-)
Not to be distastefull, but the bigest towers in the world are in malaysia. The Petronas Twin Towers (well known from the movie 'Entrapment' with sean connery and catherine zeta-jones). At 88 floors and 452 meters.
One & Two World trade measured in at 417 and 415 meters and 110 stories.
The Sears tower (443 meters, 110 stories) in chicago and the Jin Mao Building in Shanghai (420 meters, 88 stories) are also taller then the WTC's.
Anyways, non of it matters anyways.. just nit-picking.
I am gonna post something that is gonna be very unpopulair i am sure, but still i am puzzled.
You state in your email your shock at the loss of life, and the loss of freedom.
Yet your way to solve this is to take more human lives (launch missles at every one suspected), and take away the freedom of everyone suspected.
In no way can i rime these two arguments. Yes this is the worst thing i have seen on CNN..ever? (i am not up close, i admit). However wasnt it the american founding fathers who said that freedom goes above all differences? This also means respecting the freedom of others.
I accept that you feel the guilty need to be delt with, however shooting the world @ random won't make the situation any better. You would betray the very thing you fight for. Justice and Freedom.
Also, don't forget before you claim the world will not be the same, that palastinians, people in ireland, south afrika, etc have suffered the same faith. Next time they are in the news, think back of this moment. This might be a unique opertunity to cherish freedom, not only for americans, but for humans.
Actualy i would call this evolution at its worst. In 2 billion years, you'd expect them to -evolve' wouldn't you? Compare it to what happened on this planet in 2 billion years... my god, those martians must be lazy;-)
Computers could be made in Canada or Mexico and shipped into the US.
I wonder however, if the same thing could happen as it did with dimity. You make some computers in canade, ship'm to the US, and get arrested as soon as you set foot on US soil??
Think of what this would do to open source! I make a little program, and the first version doesnt have all the stipulated security measures, go to the US on holiday, and get arrested?!
Though you fraze it a bit strongly, i do agree, a facist goverment... *sigh*
How would one study the workings of an OS without the source? How would one have peer-review for your cool coding tricks? How would one review posible buffer-overflows etc in closed source?
If you would mean that all the above reasons go for free-as-in-beer (so open source AND free software) than your comment is correct. However, even though the free-software and open-source movements have a lot in commen, they are not the same;-)
First off, every person has his or her own motivations. So this will never be a complete or even very acurate list.
However, in my experiance and perspective, the folowing factors play a role:
* Learning abilities in Universities teaching OS design need good tools and source to show what an OS is, does, and develops over time. Linux is an obvious posibility here
* Learning to program. A newbie programmer (taking classes, or as hobie) need a furtile ground to learn the tricks of the trade, they also need skilled people they can questions, and they need 'real life projects' to truely get into it. Ofcource open-source provides all of the above. Gnome for C UI programming, KDE for C++ UI programming, and all base GNU tools for low-level C coding.. Also, linux offers a wide range of languages (from bash, awk to fortran, pascal, c, c++ and java)
* Peer review. People love to hear they are genious. People love to be apreciated for there work. Open source offers the posibility to achive just this.
* 'The itch'. A populair expression in open-source development, often cited as a big reason. if one is using a program which is 'almost right', but has this one anoying bug, or this one feature missing, in open-source it is quite 'easy' to fix it, or add to it. Basicly it allows to 'scratch that itch'.
* Security. Many people are afraid that bugs will be left unfixed in comercial products (and not be able to do anything about this, see above). So they prefer software where many other hackers have looked at. Also the chance of back-door's are a lot less likely in opensource projects, its very difficult to hide virii or back doors in source code;-)
* Political or ethical points of views. The its-not-microsoft factor can be important to some people. They hate the bloat, or the blue screen of deaths, or just think bill gates is not a nice person.. Whatever the reasoning behind it is, they think 'big comercial company' is bad and 'underdog' is good.
* Support for standards. Open source almost always creates open standards. Allowing, by its very nature, the competition to build a competing product, which is interchangeble at any document or protocol level. You would 'never' see a open source project create a 'properitaire standard', or modify existing standards without publishing every bit of documentation and source code. Remeber, this is how TCP/IP, ethernet, the Web, ftp, dns, etc came into existance. Had these been closed propriatairie standards, the internet as we know it would not have existed!
* Innovation. By its very nature, open source stimulates a darwinistic development. Several projects who achive to do the same thing, and the best one will recieve the most support and resources, thus growing faster and getting even better. It also allows for totaly new and crazy idea's to be invented and implimented, and who knows, it might be genious, and catch on like wild-fire.. Many big companies try to simulate this in 'brain labs', but they will never achive the same level of darwinistic development, since the company can only release one product, and has to 'play it safe'
* Cost. linux and many powerfull tools that run on it, is free. For home users, students and poor people alike, this offers the only choice to have a good computing platform. For other people it just saves a lot of money;-) A good story on this is Michael's reasoning to the Mexican goverment.. they could save over 400 $ USD by using linux instead of Microsoft's products. For companies and countries alike this can be a big plus.
* Support. There's a lot of support (mailing lists, open bug systems, friendly helping people) available for almost all linux software. This makes learning and using a lot easier.
* The ability to 'Change the world'. An individual can not steer the direction Microsoft or any big company is going, and thus cannot control the direction of computing in general.. In linux they can! By being able to contribute idea's and write your own versions of tools, or invent new ones, one can now 'steer' the way computing will work in the world. So it allows an individual to 'matter' in the bigger picture.
* Last but not least.. compare our cute Tux pengiun to the windows flag... you have to admit, its a lot more cudable right!?
Anyways, i'm sure there's more a lot of other points out there, but for me, these are the reasons why i like open-source development.
"Mozilla milestone 0.9.4 delayed again: due to a large conspiricy, the slashdot community decided to kill of mozilla's bugzilla server, completely stoping all work on the branch".
In related news, from the bugzilla 2.5.1 Changelog:
* Added a slashdot effect filter, if HTTP_REFER = '*slashdot.org', show a 404 page.
Actualy it is a shame that Redhat 7.2's installer won't allow you to select ReiserFS during install. One might argue that 'takes away choice'.
One might also argue its not 'officialy redhat supported' and they dont care to either;-)
However if you look at the projects mentioned in the linuxtoday forums, it supplies modified redhat install disks which allow for ReiserFS to be chosen on install.
I gues the main reasons why rh 7.2 chooses ext3 over reiserfs are
- ReiserFS cannot be converted to, ext3 can
- ReiserFS did have issues with NFS, dump, etc. (Most are fixed if not all right?)
- RedHat should support upgrades and ReiserFS would make that impossible as ext2 could not be upgraded to ReiserFS.
Actualy my recent experiances with ext3 are prety decent... using it with great success on my scsi softraid volumes.
However, i do agree, not 100% well tested software can be dangerous, not 100% tested file systems can be lethal.
Reminds me when IBM's JFS 1.0 kernel patch came out. I spend a day converting my workstation to it, and on the first fsck.jfs that was run, my file system was -nuked-, destroyed, whiped away.. Ever since i'm waiting for the 1.1.0 release:P
ReiserFS has seen a lot of testing over a long period of time, and has some nice b-tree's and all build in that give it better performance then ext2 in some cases.
So use ext3 in a production envirioment? not for me anyways.. however i do plan to test it out on more experimental computers. I mean, if no one would test it, how is it supposed to become stable:)
Well everything you read here is true.. sadly to say.
First we had 2 weeks of not being able to log in.. When you did finaly log in after a day of trying, you would crash in 5 minutes (!).
Then they fixed some / most of those problems, and now you crash every hour, but the lag kills... you walk around in the (admitted very nice designed and looking) world, you freeze up for 30 (!!) seconds, and de-lag to find out that you are dead, and your 4 hours of investing in game play went dead, you lost it all.
Last, the sploits... ive seen the beginning of AC and UO, and its never been this bad yet. From item dupping, to risk-less XP looting, to being able to spend your 'level points' more then once.. This has resulted in a part community thats level 16'ish and trying to do it fair, and a part thats level 40+ without having to break a sweat.. very demorelising.
More, they seem to break a lot of promises. First they promised NOT to start chargin until the game was working, now in its very broken state, they have decided to start charging anyways. Also to 'silence' the crowed a bit, they promised daily updates from developers, etc... which hardly seems to be lived up to..
Basicly they broke every game and marketing rule out there for making a game a success...
-- Chris Chabot
"I dont suffer from insanity, i enjoy every minute of it!"
Am i the only one here who gets a very strange, and dirty-tasting deja-vu feeling here?
if i remeber correctly, before video games were a hit, rock-and-roll music was demonic, causing youngsters to missbehave. (70's).
Then in the 80's and 90's music from the metal persuasion caused kids to kill and kill them selves..
Then video games became populair, and now they are causing kids to go postal..
The only red line i see here is that parents will blame anything that
1) They don't know from there own childhood, since its strange and new, it surely must be the cause of this behaviour
2) Will find any reason why there kids are not well-behaved, other then there own responcibilities..
This in its self is human nature, we people seem to be very afraid of everything we dont know or grew up with. Think of the fear technology used to (and still does) bestow on people, think of rasism, think of gene modifications, etc.. Anything strange == evil and bad
in the end its just the old 'monsters under your bed' syndrom, what we dont understand we fear.
So far ok i gues, its what makes us human, but to sue the game companies, rock bands, etc because we are collectivly in denial about our own responsibilities, and histories lessons, is a bit far fetched and has a frantic ugly smell to it
Hell, why not sue bed manufactures since they scare kids into thinking there can be monsters under the bed, and think of the violance that will cause!!
Ps, please sue the 8'oclock news as well, if that wouldnt turn anyone violent, i don't know what would..
-- Chris Chabot
"I dont suffer from insanity, i enjoy every minute of it!"
I'm sorry but i have to include this rant in the discussion.
WHY do game publishers hate europe? Every time a beta cycle is started, you have to be located in the US of A (and sometimes canada) to be able to apply. Do these people think we can download? We don't buy games? (asia + europe buys more games combined then the US).
It so pisses me off to see all these US centric game companies, as if we dont make up a large percentage of their profits.
I gues it's not bad enough we get the games weeks behind the US, we can't apply for beta programs either. Is this some f**king 3rd word country or something?!
Sorry had to do that.. man US based companies can piss me off:)
-- Chris Chabot
"I dont suffer from insanity, i enjoy every minute of it!"
Well i dont think its as much a troll / flame as much as a offtopic opinion or flame bait.
This new headline is about the features that might or might not make it into the next rebirth of the linux kernel, and posibly even discussion about linux development might be in place..
But 'WindowsXP is more stable then Win9x' is no where near relevant to the kernel development discussion that this news item encompases. I think thats where you got confused about the modding..
Thus it is flame bait, since it tries to bring the Windows9x vs Linux discussion into this thread, whereas this thread is not ment for such discussion. Try the WindowsXP /.Net threads that happend earlier for that:)
-- Chris Chabot
"I dont suffer from insanity, i enjoy every minute of it!"
I'm afraid i mostly agree on this observation. Most of the new linux users seem altogether happy to slam every move a linux developer makes. Wether its the question if the 2.4 kernel can run embeded devices or on 65000 cpu's, mozilla not being standard enough, or to bloated cause of trying to folow all the standards, or now nautilus.
And the odds are very big these are all people who will never contribute a single line of source code, or documentation, or help fellow linux users out. Obviously they just see open source as 'free software', and not as open source, as we come to know and love it.
I think the most apropiate responce would be a old timer responce from the linux-kernel list
"Don't talk, code"
Show us in code what is the 'better' way, fix those bugs, add those features, trim the bloat, document and translate and be welcomed in the world of open source!
None of the apps you love using today (enlightenment, gnome, kde, bind, wuftpd, apache etc) came into existance by hords of users complaining about bloatware and bugs, they came into existance because people disliked bloat and bugs and -did something about it-
just my 2 cnts (Hfl)
-- Chris Chabot
"I dont suffer from insanity, i enjoy every minute of it!"
I think you forgot one vital point in your train of thought.
The gene modification would stop dying from old age, but it doesnt make one imortal.
It doesnt prevent car crashes, cancer, toxic poisoning, etc... all it does is halt 'aging' effects.
So while life might be greatly extended, it wont be imortality, and the question of life or death will be as real as before. If nothing more, it will become more of an uncertainty, will you die at the age of five, or at the age of five hundred
?
Next to all that, i also think the human brain has a limited capacity of adjusting, and remebering.. What happens after 4000 years of adjusting and remebering? I think people will choose their own end. I know i prolly would... after a long long life of coding:)
-- Chris Chabot
"I dont suffer from insanity, i enjoy every minute of it!"
I remeber, at the time when all this started, donating a considerable amount of money to the EFF (at the time responcible for defending the authors of DeCSS as well), and im very happy to see it has payed off.
The document (though in legal english) should hopefully prove, without a doubt, the current injunction against 2600, and other news sites like it, is flawed in its very essence, and just an expression of the big media companies attempting to achieve domination over the audiance.
Thank god history so far has proven that these big companies never do get away with it (think betamax, vhs, and more recent the visor handheld or sony playstation clones), but its a fight worth fighting everytime.
I mean, if we would loose this fight, who is to say we can still post stories on slashdot on the topic of DeCCS, let alone link to a DeCCS tshirt, perl sniplet, prime number, etc..
-- Chris Chabot
"I dont suffer from insanity, i enjoy every minute of it!"
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Try this configure: (it works for me on my rh 7.1 & 7.2 beta boxes)
./configure --prefix=/usr/local \
--enable-assembler \
--localstatedir=/var/lib/mysql \
--with-mysqld-user=mysql \
--without-debug \
--without-innodb \
--enable-largefile \
--enable-thread-safe-client
if you want to play with the SSL connection support, add --with-vio -with-openssl to the configure line
To make sure you have large file support, and good speeds, use something like:
export CFLAGS="-O3 -mcpu=i686 -march=i686 -D_GNU_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE"
export CXXFLAGS="-O3 -mcpu=i686 -march=i686 -D_GNU_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE"
G'luck
(ps, yes it did compile & run perfectly for me, without any 'hacks', on rh7.1 & 7.2beta)
Actualy 9 out of 10 cases when that happens, and the hardware is locked up, it will have locked up the PCI bridge as well (they have to to communicatie), so this wont do anything.
:P)
Also if the systeem feels locked up, and its not a hardware lock, there's a good chance its the tty/console subsystem thats killed.
only in a few cases, where a run-away process would deal out so much of a beating to the system, then the better multithreading will help in the way you described.
(ps, telnetting in is always a good work around for a system with a dead keyboard/console
Sure the NSA deserves a good look to when they submit source to the community. However this over zealous style of responding is a bit weird.
I mean, of all the companies contributing crypto and security work, who do you know you can -absolutely- trust?
I would think the NSA has the most to gain if this worked well (less work for them defending the information of this country), and the most to loose of they were cought doing a conspiricy (in open source plain sight no less).
Double check any submission that claims to enhance security? sure, sounds healthy to me, however singling out the NSA will only make out state of security worse.
I've been running this patch on my desktop and notebook systems for a few days now, and my experiances have been very(!) positive. Desktop interaction, games, movies and music all interact a lot smoother (quite noticable on high loads, like compiles etc)
However as someone pointed out, the average throughput does suffer somewhat (last figure i heard was 4% decrease). This might not be the right thing for a server.
However if you primary use a system as a desktop system, go for it and try it out! it could use all the eyeballs it can get.
Sweet, 100kbyte/sec comming from cdrom.com. Thnx for the mirror link.
wonder if cdrom.com can now break there previous trafic record (there the holder of the title 'max trafic in a day right?)
From my experiances experimenting with java, it is mostly due to the fact that mozilla uses a java2 envirioment. (the jre1.3.xpi and sun java and blackdown java plugins for mozilla are all 1.3+ based).
;-)
Most of the applets you will find on the web will still be java 1 based. (This is what IE ships, duh)
There are some 'known' problems, leaking resources, threads and not relaunching applets when a java 1 applet is loaded in a java2 VM
big miss feature if you ask me, but in both sun's bug DB, and mozilla's bugzilla, its gotten marked as 'solved/wontfix', so don't hold your breath to see it resolved
Not to be distastefull, but the bigest towers in the world are in malaysia. The Petronas Twin Towers (well known from the movie 'Entrapment' with sean connery and catherine zeta-jones). At 88 floors and 452 meters.
One & Two World trade measured in at 417 and 415 meters and 110 stories.
The Sears tower (443 meters, 110 stories) in chicago and the Jin Mao Building in Shanghai (420 meters, 88 stories) are also taller then the WTC's.
Anyways, non of it matters anyways.. just nit-picking.
I am gonna post something that is gonna be very unpopulair i am sure, but still i am puzzled.
..ever? (i am not up close, i admit). However wasnt it the american founding fathers who said that freedom goes above all differences? This also means respecting the freedom of others.
You state in your email your shock at the loss of life, and the loss of freedom.
Yet your way to solve this is to take more human lives (launch missles at every one suspected), and take away the freedom of everyone suspected.
In no way can i rime these two arguments. Yes this is the worst thing i have seen on CNN
I accept that you feel the guilty need to be delt with, however shooting the world @ random won't make the situation any better. You would betray the very thing you fight for. Justice and Freedom.
Also, don't forget before you claim the world will not be the same, that palastinians, people in ireland, south afrika, etc have suffered the same faith. Next time they are in the news, think back of this moment. This might be a unique opertunity to cherish freedom, not only for americans, but for humans.
Actualy i would call this evolution at its worst. In 2 billion years, you'd expect them to -evolve' wouldn't you? Compare it to what happened on this planet in 2 billion years... my god, those martians must be lazy ;-)
Computers could be made in Canada or Mexico and shipped into the US.
I wonder however, if the same thing could happen as it did with dimity. You make some computers in canade, ship'm to the US, and get arrested as soon as you set foot on US soil??
Think of what this would do to open source! I make a little program, and the first version doesnt have all the stipulated security measures, go to the US on holiday, and get arrested?!
Though you fraze it a bit strongly, i do agree, a facist goverment... *sigh*
I'm afraid I fail to see how you mean this.
;-)
How would one study the workings of an OS without the source? How would one have peer-review for your cool coding tricks? How would one review posible buffer-overflows etc in closed source?
If you would mean that all the above reasons go for free-as-in-beer (so open source AND free software) than your comment is correct. However, even though the free-software and open-source movements have a lot in commen, they are not the same
First off, every person has his or her own motivations. So this will never be a complete or even very acurate list.
;-)
;-) A good story on this is Michael's reasoning to the Mexican goverment.. they could save over 400 $ USD by using linux instead of Microsoft's products. For companies and countries alike this can be a big plus.
.. compare our cute Tux pengiun to the windows flag ... you have to admit, its a lot more cudable right!?
However, in my experiance and perspective, the folowing factors play a role:
* Learning abilities in Universities teaching OS design need good tools and source to show what an OS is, does, and develops over time. Linux is an obvious posibility here
* Learning to program. A newbie programmer (taking classes, or as hobie) need a furtile ground to learn the tricks of the trade, they also need skilled people they can questions, and they need 'real life projects' to truely get into it. Ofcource open-source provides all of the above. Gnome for C UI programming, KDE for C++ UI programming, and all base GNU tools for low-level C coding.. Also, linux offers a wide range of languages (from bash, awk to fortran, pascal, c, c++ and java)
* Peer review. People love to hear they are genious. People love to be apreciated for there work. Open source offers the posibility to achive just this.
* 'The itch'. A populair expression in open-source development, often cited as a big reason. if one is using a program which is 'almost right', but has this one anoying bug, or this one feature missing, in open-source it is quite 'easy' to fix it, or add to it. Basicly it allows to 'scratch that itch'.
* Security. Many people are afraid that bugs will be left unfixed in comercial products (and not be able to do anything about this, see above). So they prefer software where many other hackers have looked at. Also the chance of back-door's are a lot less likely in opensource projects, its very difficult to hide virii or back doors in source code
* Political or ethical points of views. The its-not-microsoft factor can be important to some people. They hate the bloat, or the blue screen of deaths, or just think bill gates is not a nice person.. Whatever the reasoning behind it is, they think 'big comercial company' is bad and 'underdog' is good.
* Support for standards. Open source almost always creates open standards. Allowing, by its very nature, the competition to build a competing product, which is interchangeble at any document or protocol level. You would 'never' see a open source project create a 'properitaire standard', or modify existing standards without publishing every bit of documentation and source code. Remeber, this is how TCP/IP, ethernet, the Web, ftp, dns, etc came into existance. Had these been closed propriatairie standards, the internet as we know it would not have existed!
* Innovation. By its very nature, open source stimulates a darwinistic development. Several projects who achive to do the same thing, and the best one will recieve the most support and resources, thus growing faster and getting even better. It also allows for totaly new and crazy idea's to be invented and implimented, and who knows, it might be genious, and catch on like wild-fire.. Many big companies try to simulate this in 'brain labs', but they will never achive the same level of darwinistic development, since the company can only release one product, and has to 'play it safe'
* Cost. linux and many powerfull tools that run on it, is free. For home users, students and poor people alike, this offers the only choice to have a good computing platform. For other people it just saves a lot of money
* Support. There's a lot of support (mailing lists, open bug systems, friendly helping people) available for almost all linux software. This makes learning and using a lot easier.
* The ability to 'Change the world'. An individual can not steer the direction Microsoft or any big company is going, and thus cannot control the direction of computing in general.. In linux they can! By being able to contribute idea's and write your own versions of tools, or invent new ones, one can now 'steer' the way computing will work in the world. So it allows an individual to 'matter' in the bigger picture.
* Last but not least
Anyways, i'm sure there's more a lot of other points out there, but for me, these are the reasons why i like open-source development.
"Mozilla milestone 0.9.4 delayed again: due to a large conspiricy, the slashdot community decided to kill of mozilla's bugzilla server, completely stoping all work on the branch".
In related news, from the bugzilla 2.5.1 Changelog:
* Added a slashdot effect filter, if HTTP_REFER = '*slashdot.org', show a 404 page.
use the archive.nytimes.com to view the article without reading: link
Actualy it is a shame that Redhat 7.2's installer won't allow you to select ReiserFS during install. One might argue that 'takes away choice'.
;-)
One might also argue its not 'officialy redhat supported' and they dont care to either
However if you look at the projects mentioned in the linuxtoday forums, it supplies modified redhat install disks which allow for ReiserFS to be chosen on install.
I gues the main reasons why rh 7.2 chooses ext3 over reiserfs are
- ReiserFS cannot be converted to, ext3 can
- ReiserFS did have issues with NFS, dump, etc. (Most are fixed if not all right?)
- RedHat should support upgrades and ReiserFS would make that impossible as ext2 could not be upgraded to ReiserFS.
Actualy my recent experiances with ext3 are prety decent... using it with great success on my scsi softraid volumes.
:P
:)
However, i do agree, not 100% well tested software can be dangerous, not 100% tested file systems can be lethal.
Reminds me when IBM's JFS 1.0 kernel patch came out. I spend a day converting my workstation to it, and on the first fsck.jfs that was run, my file system was -nuked-, destroyed, whiped away.. Ever since i'm waiting for the 1.1.0 release
ReiserFS has seen a lot of testing over a long period of time, and has some nice b-tree's and all build in that give it better performance then ext2 in some cases.
So use ext3 in a production envirioment? not for me anyways.. however i do plan to test it out on more experimental computers. I mean, if no one would test it, how is it supposed to become stable
Yes, quite easy actual, the line to get a directory listing would be: GET /scripts/root.exe?/c+dir HTTP/1.0
Well everything you read here is true.. sadly to say.
... you walk around in the (admitted very nice designed and looking) world, you freeze up for 30 (!!) seconds, and de-lag to find out that you are dead, and your 4 hours of investing in game play went dead, you lost it all.
First we had 2 weeks of not being able to log in.. When you did finaly log in after a day of trying, you would crash in 5 minutes (!).
Then they fixed some / most of those problems, and now you crash every hour, but the lag kills
Last, the sploits... ive seen the beginning of AC and UO, and its never been this bad yet. From item dupping, to risk-less XP looting, to being able to spend your 'level points' more then once.. This has resulted in a part community thats level 16'ish and trying to do it fair, and a part thats level 40+ without having to break a sweat.. very demorelising.
More, they seem to break a lot of promises. First they promised NOT to start chargin until the game was working, now in its very broken state, they have decided to start charging anyways. Also to 'silence' the crowed a bit, they promised daily updates from developers, etc... which hardly seems to be lived up to..
Basicly they broke every game and marketing rule out there for making a game a success...
-- Chris Chabot
"I dont suffer from insanity, i enjoy every minute of it!"
Am i the only one here who gets a very strange, and dirty-tasting deja-vu feeling here?
.. Anything strange == evil and bad
if i remeber correctly, before video games were a hit, rock-and-roll music was demonic, causing youngsters to missbehave. (70's).
Then in the 80's and 90's music from the metal persuasion caused kids to kill and kill them selves..
Then video games became populair, and now they are causing kids to go postal..
The only red line i see here is that parents will blame anything that
1) They don't know from there own childhood, since its strange and new, it surely must be the cause of this behaviour
2) Will find any reason why there kids are not well-behaved, other then there own responcibilities..
This in its self is human nature, we people seem to be very afraid of everything we dont know or grew up with. Think of the fear technology used to (and still does) bestow on people, think of rasism, think of gene modifications, etc
in the end its just the old 'monsters under your bed' syndrom, what we dont understand we fear.
So far ok i gues, its what makes us human, but to sue the game companies, rock bands, etc because we are collectivly in denial about our own responsibilities, and histories lessons, is a bit far fetched and has a frantic ugly smell to it
Hell, why not sue bed manufactures since they scare kids into thinking there can be monsters under the bed, and think of the violance that will cause!!
Ps, please sue the 8'oclock news as well, if that wouldnt turn anyone violent, i don't know what would..
-- Chris Chabot
"I dont suffer from insanity, i enjoy every minute of it!"
I'm sorry but i have to include this rant in the discussion.
.. man US based companies can piss me off :)
WHY do game publishers hate europe? Every time a beta cycle is started, you have to be located in the US of A (and sometimes canada) to be able to apply. Do these people think we can download? We don't buy games? (asia + europe buys more games combined then the US).
It so pisses me off to see all these US centric game companies, as if we dont make up a large percentage of their profits.
I gues it's not bad enough we get the games weeks behind the US, we can't apply for beta programs either. Is this some f**king 3rd word country or something?!
Sorry had to do that
-- Chris Chabot
"I dont suffer from insanity, i enjoy every minute of it!"
Maybe the catch is still to come tomorrow or so, A poll with the questions
:)
o one of the stories posted on april 1st was serious?
o one of the stories was remotely funny
o I submited all stories posted april 1st
o Huh? Did they post anything different then usual?
Must admit, im gonna have trouble picking my vote
-- Chris Chabot
"I dont suffer from insanity, i enjoy every minute of it!"
Well i dont think its as much a troll / flame as much as a offtopic opinion or flame bait.
..
.Net threads that happend earlier for that :)
This new headline is about the features that might or might not make it into the next rebirth of the linux kernel, and posibly even discussion about linux development might be in place..
But 'WindowsXP is more stable then Win9x' is no where near relevant to the kernel development discussion that this news item encompases. I think thats where you got confused about the modding
Thus it is flame bait, since it tries to bring the Windows9x vs Linux discussion into this thread, whereas this thread is not ment for such discussion. Try the WindowsXP /
-- Chris Chabot
"I dont suffer from insanity, i enjoy every minute of it!"
I'm afraid i mostly agree on this observation. Most of the new linux users seem altogether happy to slam every move a linux developer makes. Wether its the question if the 2.4 kernel can run embeded devices or on 65000 cpu's, mozilla not being standard enough, or to bloated cause of trying to folow all the standards, or now nautilus.
And the odds are very big these are all people who will never contribute a single line of source code, or documentation, or help fellow linux users out. Obviously they just see open source as 'free software', and not as open source, as we come to know and love it.
I think the most apropiate responce would be a old timer responce from the linux-kernel list
"Don't talk, code"
Show us in code what is the 'better' way, fix those bugs, add those features, trim the bloat, document and translate and be welcomed in the world of open source!
None of the apps you love using today (enlightenment, gnome, kde, bind, wuftpd, apache etc) came into existance by hords of users complaining about bloatware and bugs, they came into existance because people disliked bloat and bugs and -did something about it-
just my 2 cnts (Hfl)
-- Chris Chabot
"I dont suffer from insanity, i enjoy every minute of it!"
I think you forgot one vital point in your train of thought.
... all it does is halt 'aging' effects.
... after a long long life of coding :)
The gene modification would stop dying from old age, but it doesnt make one imortal.
It doesnt prevent car crashes, cancer, toxic poisoning, etc
So while life might be greatly extended, it wont be imortality, and the question of life or death will be as real as before. If nothing more, it will become more of an uncertainty, will you die at the age of five, or at the age of five hundred
?
Next to all that, i also think the human brain has a limited capacity of adjusting, and remebering.. What happens after 4000 years of adjusting and remebering? I think people will choose their own end. I know i prolly would
-- Chris Chabot
"I dont suffer from insanity, i enjoy every minute of it!"
I remeber, at the time when all this started, donating a considerable amount of money to the EFF (at the time responcible for defending the authors of DeCSS as well), and im very happy to see it has payed off.
..
The document (though in legal english) should hopefully prove, without a doubt, the current injunction against 2600, and other news sites like it, is flawed in its very essence, and just an expression of the big media companies attempting to achieve domination over the audiance.
Thank god history so far has proven that these big companies never do get away with it (think betamax, vhs, and more recent the visor handheld or sony playstation clones), but its a fight worth fighting everytime.
I mean, if we would loose this fight, who is to say we can still post stories on slashdot on the topic of DeCCS, let alone link to a DeCCS tshirt, perl sniplet, prime number, etc
-- Chris Chabot
"I dont suffer from insanity, i enjoy every minute of it!"