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Mandrake has a clean and rather consistent user interface. Additionally, they don't break KDE & GNOME like Red Hat does. Furthermore, Mandrake is *STILL* the leading desktop OS in my opinion: MandrakeUpdate is a great tool and works very well, their configuration tools are also great, and supermount is really what we need for a desktop OS: I tried Red Hat 8.0 (which is partly broken and unstable by the way), and it's amazing to see that they want to be on the desktop but they keep your cd-rom locked in its tray until you click on "unlock" or type "umount". That's the kinf of thing Mandrake has been working on and solved for years and I'm pretty confident that they will continue to be a leader in this area. They just miss a better set of icon and a good Mandrake theme, which is a very easy task...
They currently have an opened increase of capital
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I thought it was interesting to notice that Mandrakesoft is currently conducting an increase of capital which is still open to all. They sell new shares at 2.10 Euros (this is under the current stock price which is 2.25 Euros). It might be a good way to invest in such an interesting and innovating company, while giving them more chances to develop.
Additional information about the current increase of capital is available at:
Isn't he a former MandrakeSoft CEO who has been thanked from Mandrake 18 months ago for having tried to convert the Linux company into a e-learning company?
As it seems Poole didn't know anything about Free Software when he joined, it's great to see the months he spent with the Mandrakians converted him to Free Software anyway! Free Software: a real virus;-)
You really should try Mandrake Linux! MandrakeSoft has worked on ergonomy in Linux for four years and you don't have any file to edit manually in Mandrake! Everything is graphical... installing a new software, installing a new device... everything is automatic, smooth, graphical.
And the ergonomy in Mandrake goes far further: for instance it's the only Linux distribution that lets you use your Floppy, CD-ROM, Zip... like under Windows. All others still need mount/umount commands (typed or with the mouse), and many some cases, it's very bad and not ergonomic (lost on data for floppy, CD-ROM locked...).
OK Red Hat 8.0 looks a bit better than Mandrake 9.0 but I know them, next time we'll get ergonomy + excellent look&feel:-)
Would be great... Because leaving Lindows to Linux newcomers is really the worst thing that can happen to them! 1) proprietary stuff everywhere 2) using the system as root = welcome to viruses in the future and so on.
Users need a real and *easy to use* Linux system! A pre-installed Mandrake Linux (8.2 or 9.0) is in my opinion the best system they can be offered. It's real Free Software, it's secure, it's fast, it's reliable, and there are many many software available for it.
Lindows' success is the result of it's CEO's address large book really a bad for Linux because it's just an attempt to provide a *very badly designed* system that looks as closely as possible to Windows.
This isn't the future of masses computing in any way in my opinion.
It's not a great review, it's a review especially done to be published on Slashdot, because it's controversial, and Eugenia is very good to write such articles! It reminds me of David Coursey/ZDNet. Eugenia, you're ready for ZDNet:-)
You seem to talk about _one_ bad user experience. It happens. I also had own bad user experiences with several Linux distro release (several Mandrake and Red Hat...), but it doesn't mean they are bad Linux distributions, it just means at a time I had no chance with a particular hardware set and particular software releases. Now I've been running Mandrake 9.0 for several weeks on two different desktop machines and my Toshiba laptop, and I didn't have any issue, excepted one issue with the Internet sharing configuration tool on my server machine. Furtermore, this seems to be a _very_ stable Mandrake release (Mandrake wasn't a very stable distribution at the beginning, but they improved much recently!).
I agree competition is good, but I disagree when you write Mandrake has fallen behind RH or SuSE! Recent move of RH and SuSE on the desktop hide the fact they have limited knowledge in this area while Mandrake has worked for years in this area. The latest Mandrake provides a great user experience, and very automated settings, but at the same time, an experimented user will never be frustrated because with Mandrake you can always get more options if you need them. Furthermore, I'm sorry but RH & SuSE have just a new look (even if RH has _unified_ the look&feel), whille Mandrake provides _real_ desktop options such as supermount (transparent access to removable medias) or the dynamic desktop. These features _really_ make user's life easier, it's not just vaporware like SuSE or Red Hat.
I didn't get _any_ problem that she mentionned in the review... WindowMaker works for me and everything else! She also mentions "nano" which didn't run correctly. But Nano is not even part of Mandrake 9.0!!! To my understanding, she has something against MandrakeSoft, that's all...
I find Mandrake 9.0 just *great* and beautiful, the best Mandrake ever actually. Even on the desktop, SuSE & Red Hat are not as powerful as Mandrake. When I plug a USB scanner or camera under Red Hat 8.0, I don't have any icon showing up on my desktop...
By the way, there are two (really) interesting news about Mandrake today:
As their server seems slashdotted, here is the full PR from LWN.NET:
__________
Altadena, CA; Paris, France - September 25th, 2002 - MandrakeSoft today announced the release of Mandrake Linux 9.0 (Dolphin), a new-generation Linux operating system for servers and desktop workstations. Mandrake Linux 9.0 combines all the power & stability of Linux with many new and unique features plus the famous "Mandrake touch" which has a long tradition of excellence and leadership on the desktop.
It includes the latest versions of the premiere Free Software packages, including the newest stable releases of Linux Kernel 2.4.19, KDE 3.0.3, GNOME 2.0.1, OpenOffice 1.0.1, Mozilla 1.1, GCC 3.2, CUPS 1.1 -- over 2000 packages in all.
The Mandrake Linux 9.0 Download Edition is immediately available as a free download from many Internet locations. Mandrake Linux retail packs (Standard 9.0: $30 USD/30 EUR, PowerPack 9.0: $69 USD/65 EUR, and ProSuite 9.0: $199 USD - 166 EUR) - all including support plans -- are now available for pre-order at MandrakeStore http://www.mandrakestore.com. Availability of the retail packs is planned for mid/end October.
The Mandrake Linux 9.0 ProSuite Edition has been Linux Standard Base (LSB 1.2) certified on Sept 25th, 2002.
* A major step toward global IT solutions *
Mandrake Linux 9.0 is the result of over four years of work to offer the most powerful Linux operating system and world-class applications to the public. With the growing power of PC hardware and widespread adoption of Internet protocols, the distinction between 'server' and 'desktop' has begun to blur. Server implementations now generally require a polished graphical desktop, while many desktop workstations routinely include professional features such as a firewall or a small FTP/webserver.
Mandrake Linux 9.0 answers all these needs with a unique solution to satisfy the widest range of uses. At installation time, the system easily adapts to an individual users' needs and expertise without requiring any difficult configuration choices or options. As a result, individuals receive the best set of desktop features, and corporate users benefit from the most powerful server features.
* What's new and unique in Mandrake Linux 9.0? *
Mandrake Linux has a long tradition of excellence on the desktop: Four years ago we were the first Linux distribution to focus on the "human factor" with Linux. Since that time, MandrakeSoft has continually introduced solid improvements for desktop users and has become widely imitated. As a result of our years of experience and expertise, Mandrake Linux 9.0 offers highly polished graphical environments and many newly redesigned graphical desktops and configuration utilities with the highest level of features and quality.
Unique features make unique products: The Mandrake Linux desktops are dynamic. This means, for instance, that when a new software package is installed or removed, the corresponding icon will appear or disappear instantaneously in the application menu. This same "dynamic" feature also applies to hardware devices: Plug in a USB scanner or WebCam and a corresponding icon appears automatically on the desktop.
Another unique feature in Mandrake Linux 9.0 is "supermount" which lets users access removable media (CD-ROM, floppy, Zip, etc.) instantaneously and transparently without using the traditional "mount/umount" commands.
Additionally, MandrakeSoft is proud to release one of the most advanced Linux systems in regards to hardware recognition. Most of the "latest & greatest" PC devices and protocols -- such as USB 2.0 -- are recognized and configured automatically in Mandrake Linux 9.0. Mandrake 9.0 is the first Linux distribution to natively support NTFS partitions and the WebDAV protocol (for editing and managing files on remote web servers).
Last but not least, Mandrake 9.0 takes the important issue of security to a new level. In early 2000, MandrakeSoft first introduced the concept of "security levels" to the Linux world; in Mandrake Linux 9.0, that concept is expanded with the integration of professional Intrusion detection tools and utilities, encrypted communication support, encrypted filesystems, secured authentication, and more. Even regular desktop users will appreciate the ability to send & receive encrypted email with Mozilla, KMail and Evolution.
* Providing choice *
Each user is unique, therefore different users prefer different applications for the same task. Following a long-standing MandrakeSoft tradition, Mandrake Linux 9.0 doesn't impose any applications as so-called "standards", but instead provides the widest range of choice for all. "Choice" never means that Mandrake 9.0 is a "bloated" Linux distribution since it's extremely easy to install and remove software packages with the greatly improved "Software Management" utilities.
Since people have different levels of knowledge and expertise, most Mandrake-specific tools & utilities are available with an attractive graphical interface for point-and-click ease, yet are also fully functional from the command line for power users.
Since Linux is truly a worldwide phenomenon, Mandrake Linux 9.0 supports nearly 60 different languages - from Afrikaans to Welsh!
Mandrake Linux 8.2 was the first Linux distribution to become certified by the Linux Standard Base (LSB 1.2). MandrakeSoft implements LSB compatibility in Mandrake Linux 9.0 as an option during the installation. This important standard ensures that Mandrake Linux will be compatible with a greater number of leading enterprise-class applications such as Database, CRM, Accounting. Last minute: the Mandrake Linux 9.0 ProSuite Edition has officially been Linux Standard Base (LSB 1.2) certified on Sept 25th, 2002.
* Comprehensive support & services for all *
Mandrake Linux 9.0 is an outstanding product on its own, but a complete range of associated services makes it an indispensable product for all occasions. MandrakeSoft offers a comprehensive range of services:
- Support for corporate and individual use is provided through MandrakeExpert.com and by our team of experts. - Software update and security advisories are delivered through MandrakeOnline - Hardware and software certification is available on demand in MandrakeSoft testing labs. - Consulting teams are ready to answer & assist with any Linux deployment. - Tailor-made OEM solutions are available for PC manufacturers and system integrators. - High-quality Linux training is available via a network of Training Centers located throughout the globe.
- Mandrake Linux 9.0 full specifications, screenshots and package list
http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/9.0/presentation/
- Mandrake Linux 9.0 Packs, description and comparatives
http://www.mandrakesoft.com/products/90/
- MandrakeSoft service offerings
http://www.mandrakesoft.com
Press contact: press@mandrakesoft.Com
About MandrakeSoft
MandrakeSoft provides a trusted interface between users of information technology and Open Source developers. The company offers its enterprise, government and educational customers a complete range of GNU/Linux and OpenSource software and related services, plus user-friendly and highly competitive information technologies. Additionally, MandrakeSoft offers technologists committed to Open Source software and courseware a trusted channel to offer their services.
MandrakeSoft has technologists in over 20 countries, and is traded on Paris Euronext Marche Libre (Euroclear code: 4477.PA; Reuters code: MAKE.PA) and the US OTC market (stock symbol MDKFF). "Born on the Internet" in late 1998, MandrakeSoft has established headquarters in the U.S.A., Montreal and France. Please visit the website: http://www.mandrakesoft.com for more information.
The presentation at: http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/9.0/presentat ion/ is *very* impressive... They really have the best features for end-users, in particular what they call the "dynamic desktop"...!
Actually, if you have this vision of how doing money with Free Software, do it because there are very few companies that succeeded in this way. The perfect model is still to invent! And I'm very confident Mandrake is on the _good_ track for one year.
Actually we also use NAT muchly (maybe more than in the USA, because here in Europe Internet access is rather expensive), and WiFi is getting very popular here as well.
That wouldn't be very surprising since Mandrake Linux has become so popular in a so short time. Anyway, it's also surprising they didn't just buy them, since the company market-value is very small compared to Red Hat's IPO remaining cash.
Well... I prefer running free proprietary software than patented "open" software (and not free).
Actually it seems I'll now have the opportunity to watch RealVideo programs on my Mandrake box, and not to listen MP3s with Xmms. That's very annoying because like you say, the MP3 won't die because of that. But Linux companies won't be able to pay.
For your information, Italian Lira doesn't exist anymore. It's the same for the German Mark, French Franc, Belgium Franc and several other european currencies.
Since the beginning of 2002 they have all been replaced by a new currency called "Euro" (symbol: ).
In the next years, the Brithish Pound could follow. Unless they prefer to change to USD - which wouldn't be extremely surprising.
> Mandrake first started it is nothing but Redhat with KDE.
Firstly, the first Mandrake were more than that : they include many hacks to ease install and use and to get access to devices more transparent.
Then, Mandrake completely stopped to base on Red Hat since version 6.0 in 1999, three years ago. Just have a look at packages lists and kernel/glibc/gcc... they are never the same. Even Mandrake & Red Hat kernels are _very_ different (more features in Mandrake kernel, and Mandrake ships with different kernels: Mandrake Linux kernel, entreprise kernel (which comes with SMP & crypto stuff for instance) and "vanilla" Linux kernel, without any hacks/add-ons).
This year AMD will be welcoming the Mandrakesoft team as partner on their booth. Hammer, AMD's new generation of 64-bits processor, and Mandrake Clustering (Clic project) will be in the spotlight.
Hammer demos
* Demo of the Beta version of the upcoming Mandrake Linux 9.0 on Hammer.
* Use of X 32 bits server running KDE 3.02 64 bits and a Konqueror 64 bits navigator. This server will be linked to a Gigabit Ethernet network. There should also be a charge simulation of 5000 connexions.
Mandrake Clustering (Clic project) demos:
* Use of a cluster of 4 Bi-Athlon XP/MP nodes with GeForce 4.
* Presentation of operations of nodes fast deployment from a server.
* Presentation of the Quake demo on multi screens.
* Presentation of Povray calculations using MPI or PVM technics which show that every node calculates and transmits the information.
HP's booth
On HP's booth, there will be demonstrations of the Bundle Premium, an OEM special offering built by HP and Mandrakesoft under a partnership agreement. This offering is based on HP's Evo desktops associated with Mandrake Linux Standard OEM Edition.
The Bundle Premium consists of 2 CDs and a 100-day per mail support. The first CD offers Mandrake Linux Standard OEM Edition, the second one is loaded with StarOffice 6.0, the reference office suite for Linux. This product is distributed via HP's worldwide network of resellers.
HP will also demonstrate 441 Project Community Computer concept, using the Mandrake Linux distribution. This concept is geared towards educational markets. It could potentially reduce the cost per seat dramatically by sharing the resources of one Evo desktop among 4 users.
IBM's booth
MandrakeSoft recently announced that it will distribute DB2, IBM's famous database software, with its server product. The combination IBM DB2 version 8/Mandrake Linux 8.2 will be exhibited on IBM's booth. This ideal low-cost e-Business solution is likely to open a new era of migration from other platforms. _____
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Mandrake has a clean and rather consistent user interface. Additionally, they don't break KDE & GNOME like Red Hat does. Furthermore, Mandrake is *STILL* the leading desktop OS in my opinion: MandrakeUpdate is a great tool and works very well, their configuration tools are also great, and supermount is really what we need for a desktop OS: I tried Red Hat 8.0 (which is partly broken and unstable by the way), and it's amazing to see that they want to be on the desktop but they keep your cd-rom locked in its tray until you click on "unlock" or type "umount". That's the kinf of thing Mandrake has been working on and solved for years and I'm pretty confident that they will continue to be a leader in this area. They just miss a better set of icon and a good Mandrake theme, which is a very easy task...
Additional information about the current increase of capital is available at:
http://www.mandrakesoft.com/company/investors/bsa
It includes several very interesting FAQs about MandrakeSoft & Linux, including a long statement about UnitedLinux.
Isn't he a former MandrakeSoft CEO who has been thanked from Mandrake 18 months ago for having tried to convert the Linux company into a e-learning company?
;-)
As it seems Poole didn't know anything about Free Software when he joined, it's great to see the months he spent with the Mandrakians converted him to Free Software anyway! Free Software: a real virus
You really should try Mandrake Linux! MandrakeSoft has worked on ergonomy in Linux for four years and you don't have any file to edit manually in Mandrake! Everything is graphical... installing a new software, installing a new device... everything is automatic, smooth, graphical.
:-)
And the ergonomy in Mandrake goes far further: for instance it's the only Linux distribution that lets you use your Floppy, CD-ROM, Zip... like under Windows. All others still need mount/umount commands (typed or with the mouse), and many some cases, it's very bad and not ergonomic (lost on data for floppy, CD-ROM locked...).
OK Red Hat 8.0 looks a bit better than Mandrake 9.0 but I know them, next time we'll get ergonomy + excellent look&feel
Would be great... Because leaving Lindows to Linux newcomers is really the worst thing that can happen to them! 1) proprietary stuff everywhere 2) using the system as root = welcome to viruses in the future and so on.
Users need a real and *easy to use* Linux system! A pre-installed Mandrake Linux (8.2 or 9.0) is in my opinion the best system they can be offered. It's real Free Software, it's secure, it's fast, it's reliable, and there are many many software available for it.
Lindows' success is the result of it's CEO's address large book really a bad for Linux because it's just an attempt to provide a *very badly designed* system that looks as closely as possible to Windows.
This isn't the future of masses computing in any way in my opinion.
It seems you Slashdot editors definately smoke too much or have fall into the darkside!
And I don't talk about all this OSNews FUD you relay. Now I bet the next step is to post LinuxGram newsletters to the frontpage.
It seems the project comes in three differents stages, and this is only the first stage. I hope SCSI can be included in next stage!
It would be more consistant. Strange to see a Linux company dealing so much with proprietary stuff.
It's not a great review, it's a review especially done to be published on Slashdot, because it's controversial, and Eugenia is very good to write such articles! It reminds me of David Coursey/ZDNet. Eugenia, you're ready for ZDNet :-)
You seem to talk about _one_ bad user experience. It happens. I also had own bad user experiences with several Linux distro release (several Mandrake and Red Hat...), but it doesn't mean they are bad Linux distributions, it just means at a time I had no chance with a particular hardware set and particular software releases. Now I've been running Mandrake 9.0 for several weeks on two different desktop machines and my Toshiba laptop, and I didn't have any issue, excepted one issue with the Internet sharing configuration tool on my server machine. Furtermore, this seems to be a _very_ stable Mandrake release (Mandrake wasn't a very stable distribution at the beginning, but they improved much recently!).
I agree competition is good, but I disagree when you write Mandrake has fallen behind RH or SuSE! Recent move of RH and SuSE on the desktop hide the fact they have limited knowledge in this area while Mandrake has worked for years in this area. The latest Mandrake provides a great user experience, and very automated settings, but at the same time, an experimented user will never be frustrated because with Mandrake you can always get more options if you need them. Furthermore, I'm sorry but RH & SuSE have just a new look (even if RH has _unified_ the look&feel), whille Mandrake provides _real_ desktop options such as supermount (transparent access to removable medias) or the dynamic desktop. These features _really_ make user's life easier, it's not just vaporware like SuSE or Red Hat.
She likes BeOS, that's all. And Windows XP, perhaps.
I didn't get _any_ problem that she mentionned in the review... WindowMaker works for me and everything else! She also mentions "nano" which didn't run correctly. But Nano is not even part of Mandrake 9.0!!! To my understanding, she has something against MandrakeSoft, that's all...
s letter/sn021017
I find Mandrake 9.0 just *great* and beautiful, the best Mandrake ever actually. Even on the desktop, SuSE & Red Hat are not as powerful as Mandrake. When I plug a USB scanner or camera under Red Hat 8.0, I don't have any icon showing up on my desktop...
By the way, there are two (really) interesting news about Mandrake today:
1) Mandrake was awarded "best distro of the year" by Linux Journal Readers (read on http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=6380)
2) MandrakeSoft today published their new results (for latest fiscal year), which show an increase of nearly 30% for revenues!
http://www.mandrakesoft.com/company/investors/new
As their server seems slashdotted, here is the full PR from LWN.NET:
/
__________
Altadena, CA; Paris, France - September 25th, 2002 - MandrakeSoft today
announced the release of Mandrake Linux 9.0 (Dolphin), a new-generation Linux
operating system for servers and desktop workstations. Mandrake Linux 9.0
combines all the power & stability of Linux with many new and unique features
plus the famous "Mandrake touch" which has a long tradition of excellence and
leadership on the desktop.
It includes the latest versions of the premiere Free Software packages,
including the newest stable releases of Linux Kernel 2.4.19, KDE 3.0.3, GNOME
2.0.1, OpenOffice 1.0.1, Mozilla 1.1, GCC 3.2, CUPS 1.1 -- over 2000
packages in all.
The Mandrake Linux 9.0 Download Edition is immediately available as a free
download from many Internet locations. Mandrake Linux retail packs (Standard
9.0: $30 USD/30 EUR, PowerPack 9.0: $69 USD/65 EUR, and ProSuite 9.0: $199 USD
- 166 EUR) - all including support plans -- are now available for pre-order at
MandrakeStore http://www.mandrakestore.com. Availability of the retail packs
is planned for mid/end October.
The Mandrake Linux 9.0 ProSuite Edition has been Linux Standard Base (LSB 1.2)
certified on Sept 25th, 2002.
* A major step toward global IT solutions *
Mandrake Linux 9.0 is the result of over four years of work to offer the most
powerful Linux operating system and world-class applications to the public.
With the growing power of PC hardware and widespread adoption of Internet
protocols, the distinction between 'server' and 'desktop' has begun to blur.
Server implementations now generally require a polished graphical desktop,
while many desktop workstations routinely include professional features such
as a firewall or a small FTP/webserver.
Mandrake Linux 9.0 answers all these needs with a unique solution to satisfy
the widest range of uses. At installation time, the system easily adapts to an
individual users' needs and expertise without requiring any difficult
configuration choices or options. As a result, individuals receive the best
set of desktop features, and corporate users benefit from the most powerful
server features.
* What's new and unique in Mandrake Linux 9.0? *
Mandrake Linux has a long tradition of excellence on the desktop: Four years
ago we were the first Linux distribution to focus on the "human factor" with
Linux. Since that time, MandrakeSoft has continually introduced solid
improvements for desktop users and has become widely imitated. As a result of
our years of experience and expertise, Mandrake Linux 9.0 offers highly
polished graphical environments and many newly redesigned graphical desktops
and configuration utilities with the highest level of features and quality.
Unique features make unique products: The Mandrake Linux desktops are dynamic.
This means, for instance, that when a new software package is installed or
removed, the corresponding icon will appear or disappear instantaneously in
the application menu. This same "dynamic" feature also applies to hardware
devices: Plug in a USB scanner or WebCam and a corresponding icon appears
automatically on the desktop.
Another unique feature in Mandrake Linux 9.0 is "supermount" which lets users
access removable media (CD-ROM, floppy, Zip, etc.) instantaneously and
transparently without using the traditional "mount/umount" commands.
Additionally, MandrakeSoft is proud to release one of the most advanced Linux
systems in regards to hardware recognition. Most of the "latest & greatest" PC
devices and protocols -- such as USB 2.0 -- are recognized and configured
automatically in Mandrake Linux 9.0. Mandrake 9.0 is the first Linux
distribution to natively support NTFS partitions and the WebDAV protocol (for
editing and managing files on remote web servers).
Last but not least, Mandrake 9.0 takes the important issue of security to a
new level. In early 2000, MandrakeSoft first introduced the concept of
"security levels" to the Linux world; in Mandrake Linux 9.0, that concept is
expanded with the integration of professional Intrusion detection tools and
utilities, encrypted communication support, encrypted filesystems, secured
authentication, and more. Even regular desktop users will appreciate the
ability to send & receive encrypted email with Mozilla, KMail and Evolution.
* Providing choice *
Each user is unique, therefore different users prefer different applications
for the same task. Following a long-standing MandrakeSoft tradition, Mandrake
Linux 9.0 doesn't impose any applications as so-called "standards", but
instead provides the widest range of choice for all. "Choice" never means that
Mandrake 9.0 is a "bloated" Linux distribution since it's extremely easy to
install and remove software packages with the greatly improved "Software
Management" utilities.
Since people have different levels of knowledge and expertise, most
Mandrake-specific tools & utilities are available with an attractive graphical
interface for point-and-click ease, yet are also fully functional from the
command line for power users.
Since Linux is truly a worldwide phenomenon, Mandrake Linux 9.0 supports
nearly 60 different languages - from Afrikaans to Welsh!
Mandrake Linux 8.2 was the first Linux distribution to become certified by the
Linux Standard Base (LSB 1.2). MandrakeSoft implements LSB compatibility in
Mandrake Linux 9.0 as an option during the installation. This important
standard ensures that Mandrake Linux will be compatible with a greater number
of leading enterprise-class applications such as Database, CRM, Accounting.
Last minute: the Mandrake Linux 9.0 ProSuite Edition has officially been Linux
Standard Base (LSB 1.2) certified on Sept 25th, 2002.
* Comprehensive support & services for all *
Mandrake Linux 9.0 is an outstanding product on its own, but a complete range
of associated services makes it an indispensable product for all occasions.
MandrakeSoft offers a comprehensive range of services:
- Support for corporate and individual use is provided through
MandrakeExpert.com and by our team of experts.
- Software update and security advisories are delivered through MandrakeOnline
- Hardware and software certification is available on demand in MandrakeSoft
testing labs.
- Consulting teams are ready to answer & assist with any Linux deployment.
- Tailor-made OEM solutions are available for PC manufacturers and system
integrators.
- High-quality Linux training is available via a network of Training Centers
located throughout the globe.
For additional information please see:
- Mandrake Linux 9.0 Pre-orders (Standard 9.0, PowerPack 9.0, ProSuite 9.0)
http://www.mandrakestore.com
- Mandrake Linux 9.0 full specifications, screenshots and package list
http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/9.0/presentation
- Mandrake Linux 9.0 Packs, description and comparatives
http://www.mandrakesoft.com/products/90/
- MandrakeSoft service offerings
http://www.mandrakesoft.com
Press contact:
press@mandrakesoft.Com
About MandrakeSoft
MandrakeSoft provides a trusted interface between users of information
technology and Open Source developers. The company offers its enterprise,
government and educational customers a complete range of GNU/Linux and
OpenSource software and related services, plus user-friendly and highly
competitive information technologies. Additionally, MandrakeSoft offers
technologists committed to Open Source software and courseware a trusted
channel to offer their services.
MandrakeSoft has technologists in over 20 countries, and is traded on Paris
Euronext Marche Libre (Euroclear code: 4477.PA; Reuters code: MAKE.PA) and the
US OTC market (stock symbol MDKFF). "Born on the Internet" in late 1998,
MandrakeSoft has established headquarters in the U.S.A., Montreal and France.
Please visit the website: http://www.mandrakesoft.com for more information.
The presentation at:t ion/
http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/9.0/presenta
is *very* impressive... They really have the best features for end-users, in particular what they call the "dynamic desktop"...!
Mandrake 9.0 seems to respect KDE & GNOME, and Bero has been part of MandrakeSoft in 1999!
Actually, if you have this vision of how doing money with Free Software, do it because there are very few companies that succeeded in this way. The perfect model is still to invent! And I'm very confident Mandrake is on the _good_ track for one year.
Actually we also use NAT muchly (maybe more than in the USA, because here in Europe Internet access is rather expensive), and WiFi is getting very popular here as well.
That wouldn't be very surprising since Mandrake Linux has become so popular in a so short time. Anyway, it's also surprising they didn't just buy them, since the company market-value is very small compared to Red Hat's IPO remaining cash.
/ faq )
(have a look at: http://www.mandrakesoft.com/company/investors/bsa
This is going to be intetersting to follow... will Red Hat include Mandrake's tuning such as supermount?
Well... I prefer running free proprietary software than patented "open" software (and not free).
Actually it seems I'll now have the opportunity to watch RealVideo programs on my Mandrake box, and not to listen MP3s with Xmms. That's very annoying because like you say, the MP3 won't die because of that. But Linux companies won't be able to pay.
For your information, Italian Lira doesn't exist anymore. It's the same for the German Mark, French Franc, Belgium Franc and several other european currencies.
Since the beginning of 2002 they have all been replaced by a new currency called "Euro" (symbol: ).
In the next years, the Brithish Pound could follow. Unless they prefer to change to USD - which wouldn't be extremely surprising.
> Mandrake first started it is nothing but Redhat with KDE.
Firstly, the first Mandrake were more than that : they include many hacks to ease install and use and to get access to devices more transparent.
Then, Mandrake completely stopped to base on Red Hat since version 6.0 in 1999, three years ago. Just have a look at packages lists and kernel/glibc/gcc... they are never the same. Even Mandrake & Red Hat kernels are _very_ different (more features in Mandrake kernel, and Mandrake ships with different kernels: Mandrake Linux kernel, entreprise kernel (which comes with SMP & crypto stuff for instance) and "vanilla" Linux kernel, without any hacks/add-ons).
> But it is interesting to note that the three standards all have ...
> soimething in common
>
> 1. Built on Red Hat
Sorry but Mandrake isn't built on Red Hat.
According to a recent press-release, MandrakeSoft has also worked with AMD to get Hammer supported on early 2003.
The joint Press release (MandrakeSoft/AMD- June 27th) is available here.
Published last friday on their website:
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http://www.mandrakesoft.com/company/community/m
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AMD's booth
This year AMD will be welcoming the Mandrakesoft team as partner on their booth. Hammer, AMD's new generation of 64-bits processor, and Mandrake Clustering (Clic project) will be in the spotlight.
Hammer demos
* Demo of the Beta version of the upcoming Mandrake Linux 9.0 on Hammer.
* Use of X 32 bits server running KDE 3.02 64 bits and a Konqueror 64 bits navigator. This server will be linked to a Gigabit Ethernet network. There should also be a charge simulation of 5000 connexions.
Mandrake Clustering (Clic project) demos:
* Use of a cluster of 4 Bi-Athlon XP/MP nodes with GeForce 4.
* Presentation of operations of nodes fast deployment from a server.
* Presentation of the Quake demo on multi screens.
* Presentation of Povray calculations using MPI or PVM technics which show that every node calculates and transmits the information.
HP's booth
On HP's booth, there will be demonstrations of the Bundle Premium, an OEM special offering built by HP and Mandrakesoft under a partnership agreement. This offering is based on HP's Evo desktops associated with Mandrake Linux Standard OEM Edition.
The Bundle Premium consists of 2 CDs and a 100-day per mail support. The first CD offers Mandrake Linux Standard OEM Edition, the second one is loaded with StarOffice 6.0, the reference office suite for Linux. This product is distributed via HP's worldwide network of resellers.
HP will also demonstrate 441 Project Community Computer concept, using the Mandrake Linux distribution. This concept is geared towards educational markets. It could potentially reduce the cost per seat dramatically by sharing the resources of one Evo desktop among 4 users.
IBM's booth
MandrakeSoft recently announced that it will distribute DB2, IBM's famous database software, with its server product. The combination IBM DB2 version 8/Mandrake Linux 8.2 will be exhibited on IBM's booth. This ideal low-cost e-Business solution is likely to open a new era of migration from other platforms.
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Great to see that IBM shows interest in Mandrake!