I don't know how many people come from the "old school" of programming, but when I started, we didn't have all these libraries to link to. When we wanted a function to happen, we wrote it. And when we wrote it, we checked for overflows, underflows, error status and illegal input. We didn't rely on what few functions that already existed.
That's great. Now that you guys built up the roads, bridges, and traffic lights... The rest of us are interested in actually using them to GET SOMEWHERE.
Rewriting OpenGL, a scene graph, network interface code, XML Readers, etc, etc, etc. for each project would only lead to increasing the amount of buggy code in existence and no actual work getting done. We really should be past reinventing the square wheel...
Seriously, you've gone beyond the stereotypical "In my day..." old coot bullshit and straight into loony "uphill both ways in a snowstorm" territory. Using library functions instead of writing your own isn't any different than using power tools over hand tools, the quality of the result has to do with the person using them, not how easy the tools are to use. And while something built by hand may *seem* nicer, the difference in the end doesn't really matter--and you're able to get a hell of a lot more done with modern tools.
The main application I'm working on currently takes 20 minutes or more to do a clean compile on my 4-core 8GB of RAM machine, even with the job count jacked up on make appropriately. Don't even try to tell me I should be "developing on a slow machine." We have machines for testing already, MY box doesn't have to be one of those. And being paid 1/3 of my hourly rate to read Slashdot (or swordfight) while waiting on compiles doesn't do anything to improve code quality. Never-mind how helpful having a powerful machine is when it comes to running the application I'm developing as well as local development copies of the other five supporting applications/servers it depends on that would normally be run on separate machines in a production environment...
Then there's the fact that more power isn't used for letting you get away with crappy code, but in fact getting better performance out of good code... Not all of us out here are writing spreadsheet applications. Some of us are actually writing high-performance apps that benefit from all this power.
So, to sum up, you're a moron and you know a lot less about development (and what will improve code quality) than the average bus driver.
Yes, that's exactly what he's saying, and that's pretty much exactly what I see 95% of the opponents of the H1-B Visa system saying... Meanwhile my old classmates get sent back home to make peanuts doing significantly better work than I do.
makes me feel vindicated. Either he's a regular human being like the rest of us, or even GODS think it's ridiculous that it takes 30 minutes of Google searches to figure out how to create a desktop icon...
This thread is two weeks old, actually. And it's that old precisely because I *HAVE* a life and therefore only have time to bother to check here every couple days or so.
I actually was right on-topic. The discussion was about how future UCAVs could even be a threat to an F-22, you asked how UCAVs would even be able to find an F-22, and I pointed out that networking would give a group of stealth UCAVs a much better chance of seeing an F-22 than a single F-22 would have of seeing stealth UCAVs. You then proceeded to engage in a lot of juvenile 'lol's and finally some rather crude profanity.
Thanks for fulfilling my high expectations of you.
So in other words, you're admitting you don't know what you're talking about, and that I'm right, and therefore are simply going to claim I'm off-topic to avoid having to face this fact.
Yes, the networked "airplane" (sic) instruments are not the same thing.
They're much scarier and much more effective. The Soviets already pulled it off in the MiG-31: the Foxhound could synchronize targeting and engaging amongst four aircraft automatically using short ranged wireless networking of their computers. That was with frickin' vacuum tubes and 70s technology--don't you think we could pull it off a little better in today's world of supercomputer-on-a-chip?
You can 'lol' all day if you want, but in the meantime General Atomics, Northrop Grumman, Boeing, and others already have operational networked UCAVs, and have some even more awesome things in the works. The X-45 already showed that groups of UCAVs can autonomously identify targets/threats and defeat them, after determining amongst themselves which aircraft has the best position and/or loadout to most efficiently deal with the threat. The stuff General Atomics is doing with automatic task prioritization and delegation of surveillance UAVs is amazing.
The way things are looking, in the next ten years our skies are going to be absolutely choked with UASs... We're doing a lot of work currently trying to develop procedures for handling UASs in the National Airspace System right now, because they're going to be such a big deal...
... Yes. That's how a modern military fights, using data fusion. It's also how Nighthawks have been seen and shot down before, by combining multiple radars and optical/infra-red tracking. Yes, an F-22 looks like a bird on radar and will often be ignored as "noise" by a system, but if 100 different radars see the same "noise" in the same general area, with the same general heading and speed, then it's probably not noise...
But then again, they won't be using radar most likely. Optical/infra-red doesn't give yourself away when you use it...
Yeah, I didn't mean to imply that a non-instrument rated Private License lacked the ability to do those things, sorry for the misunderstanding. I was just trying to point out that the privilege to fly is available with only a minimum investment of time, and the ability to take advantage of the entire airspace regardless of time of day or weather was available to someone after only about 100 hours of private flying time, not "thousands of hours" of "professional" flight.
And you're right, normally it does take more than 40 hours, but all that's legally *required* by the FAA is 40 hours.:)
Well, the rules above ground are drafted for professionals with thousands of logged hours.
No they're not. You can get a Light Sport license with 20 hours of flight time. That only lets you fly a very limited class of aircraft in VFR, of course. But even a full fledged private license only takes about 40 hours, and instrument rating is only about 100 hours total. At that point you're allowed to fly IFR flight plans in controlled airspace the same as any "professional" pilot (though as a private pilot you're probably limited to Victor airways, since jetways require a jet, which will run a couple million...).
So really, "the rules above ground" are for anyone and everyone, not just people who fly for a living.
Good question and AFAIK there really isn't nothing. If you find something let us know.
A real HMD (Something like a VR1280, as opposed to the consumer-level crap that gets passed off as "VR Goggles") generally doesn't require anything like stereo support, as they take in two inputs, one for each eye. The down side is they usually run about $16k.:)
As far as stereo support in Linux... I'm surprised you're having trouble with that. All the nVidia drivers I've used in the past three or so years have supported it right out of the box. The only thing I had trouble with was one of our Quadro cards didn't have the plug for an emitter, so I wasn't sure how to enable the sync-on-green feature for the VGA adapter for the emitter.
Yeah it's even more terrible. Seriously. The last HMD I was working with was 1280*1024 and the image was still awful compared to the 1024*768 mirror-based fishtank display we were using.
Yes, Linux supports active/passive stereo in a way that would be used by professional VR hardware, no problem. The problem is pretty much all of the consumer level devices do it differently: they hack in stereo rendering at the driver level to software that wasn't originally designed to take advantage of it. The devices then depend on this unique software hack and how it multiplexes in the frames to achieve the stereo effect, and cannot use something like an emitter.
None of that matters, anyway, since you shouldn't use multiplexed stereo for HMDs, that's for shutter glasses. HMDs should have two separate inputs, one for each eye, so that you get a full framerate for both eyes.
Then you have to remove social security from the chart because you can't count that as a normal expense (it is an investment fund paid for with its own separate tax).
That's not true. Social Security tax goes directly into the general fund and it's paid for out of the general fund, there's no separation whatsoever.
Paying for any other programming (music, talk shows, etc.) via satellite radio always struck me as frivolous (that's what iPods, CDs and podcasts are for).
Yes, if you want to listen to YESTERDAY'S news... Yeesh, think things through before you talk.
Your straw man is on fire. Firefighters and police officers shoule not be in a theater while on duty,
Have you ever actually worked with emergency services? There's no such thing as "on duty" for volunteer firefighters, and some areas are ONLY served by volunteer fire companies. Likewise, in the case of emergency police officers and paid firefighters can be called in at any time, "off duty" be damned. Never mind if their work actually takes them INTO a theater, and now suddenly not only are their cell phones not working, but also their 2-way radios.
and if a doctor is needed, theater management can get him.
... So now if a Doctor is needed in an emergency, and for some reason his or her cell phone doesn't seem to be working, we're supposed to start calling random theaters and the management is supposed to go into each movie and ask if said Doctor is there? And somehow interrupting EVERY movie looking for a Doctor is LESS disruptive than a Doctor walking out of a theater when his or her cell vibrates?
You can bet the first time someone dies while a Doctor is incommunicado due to jamming equipment that those responsible for the jamming will find themselves on the receiving end of a pretty hefty wrongful death suit, and possibly even criminal charges.
IMO yes. If you go to the theater with a screaming baby or a hacking cough, you're an asshole, plain and simple.
And once again it comes down to "All that matters is my enjoyment of the movie, fsck everyone else."
If people's lives depend on you being reachable 24/7, then you need to stay out of theaters.
So Doctors, Firefighters, and Police Officers are not allowed to have lives outside of their work? Because some asshole MAY someday abuse his phone privileges at a theater? That's absurd.
As others have pointed out, crying babies/sick people are much more disturbing to moviegoers on a much more common basis. Should we ban them, too?
You are being adequitaly compensated fro being deprived of going to the theater, or else you're a fool.
This is doubly absurd! You think first responders are "adequately compensated"!? Garbage men are generally paid better! (Never mind volunteer Firefighters, who's compensation for their trouble is in the negatives!).
As long as there are people who don't give a shit about your rights (and there are more every day) the theater needs to be in a Faraday cage. I daresay that would be a strong attraction for most people.
Rights!? RIGHTS!? Are you insane!? Do you even have any idea what that word MEANS!? You do not have a right to watch a movie in a public theater without being bothered! No such right exists! You do have a right to ask the manager to remove a person who's ruining your experience, and if they fail to, you have a right to demand a refund, but you don't have a RIGHT not to be bothered in the first place.
If anything, Doctors/Firefighters/Police have a RIGHT to use the electromagnetic spectrum in a manner set forth by FCC regulation, and your proposal is the closest thing in this conversation to infringing on someone's RIGHTS. You're trying to justify this as doing something about people who don't care about their common man, but the truth of the matter is you're the one who doesn't give a damn about anyone but themselves--all that matters is whether you enjoy your movie.
Nobody's making you go to the theater. If you can't live without a cell phone for two hours, 1. stay the hell out of the theater and 2. get some psychological help; you have mental problems.
Or could it be perhaps that thousands to millions of dollars or even people's lives very often depend on you being able to be reached at any time of the day?
Just because you're so unimportant that the world wouldn't notice you disappearing from it for a few hours doesn't mean the same is true for everyone else. The problem is not the fact that the cell phones are there, the problem is the people who refuse to leave a theater to use one.
That said, I think people complaining about cell phone use in restaurants are being ridiculous.
Your post describes the same emotion people feel when someone cuts in line. When someone drives on the shoulder, passes them and merges ahead in stop and go traffic.
No, because you're leaving off a key point: The people "cutting in line" also didn't pay to see the show.
For the record, I don't think that the people coming into the country illegally to work should be given citizenship. If that is what they are coming to the country for, I say kick them out and enforce the laws completely.
Good to know.
If they are coming here to work a few seasons and go home, then I say document that, let as many in who want to come in, and *know* where they are living, who they are working for. Tax them for the services provided this country and enforce min wag laws to prevent wage depression.
I think that's all perfectly reasonable. I'm all for issuing work visas. I'd also like to see a huge increase in the amount of visas allowed for skilled workers, as well--we should be welcoming Doctors and Engineers just as readily as fruit pickers, in my opinion. My only caveat is that if you want citizenship, you need to go home and work through the same process as everyone else, not use a work visa as a cheaper and faster alternative route.
As for immigrants, they seem to be the hardest workers around. I think that is why people don't like them; with them, people are expected to work harder. Why, just being American means prosperity without working hard is a birthright, right?
I love how people throw around this word "immigrant" like it applies to people in the country illegally equally as well as those who have gone through the legal process.
I despise the existence of illegal aliens, but not because they are "immigrants". And I do not despise them as people, I'm sure they are very nice and there is no malice in what they do. I despise the hypocrisy they represent. I despise them because of friends of mine who want to be in this country but can't be. My favorite example being a good friend in college who's family mortgaged their house just to send him to America to get a good education. And even when he was here, he was under the most ridiculous restrictions regarding his ability to work while a student, constantly under threat of deportation if he missed a paperwork deadline, constantly paying more and more in application fees, paying four times the tuition I paid for the same education, etc. All knowing that if he didn't get his degree and pay back his family's loan in five years, they'd lose their house. Then I showed him an article where Nancy Pelosi said States should be required to give in-state tuition to "illegal immigrants" and he told me "If that passes, I'm tearing up my Visa. I'll be an "illegal immigrant", too."
With this in mind it really pisses me off to be called anti-immigrant. I *love* immigrants. I love the fact that despite my country's massive faults, there are still people who want to come here--it's one of the few things that still makes me feel good about the USA. People who are willing to put up with all the bullshit regulation surrounding immigration just to get here. People who wait for years and years to do it. I want those people rewarded and held up as examples of what's still good about this country. I want things to be easier for them.
And I think any effort to reward those who thumb their noses at the legal process is spitting in the faces of actual immigrants. If anything, people wanting to reward illegal aliens are anti-immigrant.
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That's great. Now that you guys built up the roads, bridges, and traffic lights... The rest of us are interested in actually using them to GET SOMEWHERE.
Rewriting OpenGL, a scene graph, network interface code, XML Readers, etc, etc, etc. for each project would only lead to increasing the amount of buggy code in existence and no actual work getting done. We really should be past reinventing the square wheel...
Seriously, you've gone beyond the stereotypical "In my day..." old coot bullshit and straight into loony "uphill both ways in a snowstorm" territory. Using library functions instead of writing your own isn't any different than using power tools over hand tools, the quality of the result has to do with the person using them, not how easy the tools are to use. And while something built by hand may *seem* nicer, the difference in the end doesn't really matter--and you're able to get a hell of a lot more done with modern tools.
The main application I'm working on currently takes 20 minutes or more to do a clean compile on my 4-core 8GB of RAM machine, even with the job count jacked up on make appropriately. Don't even try to tell me I should be "developing on a slow machine." We have machines for testing already, MY box doesn't have to be one of those. And being paid 1/3 of my hourly rate to read Slashdot (or swordfight) while waiting on compiles doesn't do anything to improve code quality. Never-mind how helpful having a powerful machine is when it comes to running the application I'm developing as well as local development copies of the other five supporting applications/servers it depends on that would normally be run on separate machines in a production environment...
Then there's the fact that more power isn't used for letting you get away with crappy code, but in fact getting better performance out of good code... Not all of us out here are writing spreadsheet applications. Some of us are actually writing high-performance apps that benefit from all this power.
So, to sum up, you're a moron and you know a lot less about development (and what will improve code quality) than the average bus driver.
Yes, that's exactly what he's saying, and that's pretty much exactly what I see 95% of the opponents of the H1-B Visa system saying... Meanwhile my old classmates get sent back home to make peanuts doing significantly better work than I do.
makes me feel vindicated. Either he's a regular human being like the rest of us, or even GODS think it's ridiculous that it takes 30 minutes of Google searches to figure out how to create a desktop icon...
This thread is two weeks old, actually. And it's that old precisely because I *HAVE* a life and therefore only have time to bother to check here every couple days or so.
I actually was right on-topic. The discussion was about how future UCAVs could even be a threat to an F-22, you asked how UCAVs would even be able to find an F-22, and I pointed out that networking would give a group of stealth UCAVs a much better chance of seeing an F-22 than a single F-22 would have of seeing stealth UCAVs. You then proceeded to engage in a lot of juvenile 'lol's and finally some rather crude profanity.
Thanks for fulfilling my high expectations of you.
So in other words, you're admitting you don't know what you're talking about, and that I'm right, and therefore are simply going to claim I'm off-topic to avoid having to face this fact.
Yes, the networked "airplane" (sic) instruments are not the same thing.
They're much scarier and much more effective. The Soviets already pulled it off in the MiG-31: the Foxhound could synchronize targeting and engaging amongst four aircraft automatically using short ranged wireless networking of their computers. That was with frickin' vacuum tubes and 70s technology--don't you think we could pull it off a little better in today's world of supercomputer-on-a-chip?
You can 'lol' all day if you want, but in the meantime General Atomics, Northrop Grumman, Boeing, and others already have operational networked UCAVs, and have some even more awesome things in the works. The X-45 already showed that groups of UCAVs can autonomously identify targets/threats and defeat them, after determining amongst themselves which aircraft has the best position and/or loadout to most efficiently deal with the threat. The stuff General Atomics is doing with automatic task prioritization and delegation of surveillance UAVs is amazing.
The way things are looking, in the next ten years our skies are going to be absolutely choked with UASs... We're doing a lot of work currently trying to develop procedures for handling UASs in the National Airspace System right now, because they're going to be such a big deal...
But then again, they won't be using radar most likely. Optical/infra-red doesn't give yourself away when you use it...
100 UAVs are much more likely to see 1 F-22 by networking their sensors than 1 F-22 is going to see all 100 UAVs trying to hunt it down.
To be honest, though, this conversation is starting to sound like a certain episode of SeaLab 2021...
Yeah, I didn't mean to imply that a non-instrument rated Private License lacked the ability to do those things, sorry for the misunderstanding. I was just trying to point out that the privilege to fly is available with only a minimum investment of time, and the ability to take advantage of the entire airspace regardless of time of day or weather was available to someone after only about 100 hours of private flying time, not "thousands of hours" of "professional" flight.
And you're right, normally it does take more than 40 hours, but all that's legally *required* by the FAA is 40 hours. :)
No they're not. You can get a Light Sport license with 20 hours of flight time. That only lets you fly a very limited class of aircraft in VFR, of course. But even a full fledged private license only takes about 40 hours, and instrument rating is only about 100 hours total. At that point you're allowed to fly IFR flight plans in controlled airspace the same as any "professional" pilot (though as a private pilot you're probably limited to Victor airways, since jetways require a jet, which will run a couple million...).
So really, "the rules above ground" are for anyone and everyone, not just people who fly for a living.
A real HMD (Something like a VR1280, as opposed to the consumer-level crap that gets passed off as "VR Goggles") generally doesn't require anything like stereo support, as they take in two inputs, one for each eye. The down side is they usually run about $16k. :)
As far as stereo support in Linux... I'm surprised you're having trouble with that. All the nVidia drivers I've used in the past three or so years have supported it right out of the box. The only thing I had trouble with was one of our Quadro cards didn't have the plug for an emitter, so I wasn't sure how to enable the sync-on-green feature for the VGA adapter for the emitter.
Yeah it's even more terrible. Seriously. The last HMD I was working with was 1280*1024 and the image was still awful compared to the 1024*768 mirror-based fishtank display we were using.
Yes, Linux supports active/passive stereo in a way that would be used by professional VR hardware, no problem. The problem is pretty much all of the consumer level devices do it differently: they hack in stereo rendering at the driver level to software that wasn't originally designed to take advantage of it. The devices then depend on this unique software hack and how it multiplexes in the frames to achieve the stereo effect, and cannot use something like an emitter.
None of that matters, anyway, since you shouldn't use multiplexed stereo for HMDs, that's for shutter glasses. HMDs should have two separate inputs, one for each eye, so that you get a full framerate for both eyes.
That's not true. Social Security tax goes directly into the general fund and it's paid for out of the general fund, there's no separation whatsoever.
Yes, if you want to listen to YESTERDAY'S news... Yeesh, think things through before you talk.
Have you ever actually worked with emergency services? There's no such thing as "on duty" for volunteer firefighters, and some areas are ONLY served by volunteer fire companies. Likewise, in the case of emergency police officers and paid firefighters can be called in at any time, "off duty" be damned. Never mind if their work actually takes them INTO a theater, and now suddenly not only are their cell phones not working, but also their 2-way radios.
You can bet the first time someone dies while a Doctor is incommunicado due to jamming equipment that those responsible for the jamming will find themselves on the receiving end of a pretty hefty wrongful death suit, and possibly even criminal charges.
And once again it comes down to "All that matters is my enjoyment of the movie, fsck everyone else."
So Doctors, Firefighters, and Police Officers are not allowed to have lives outside of their work? Because some asshole MAY someday abuse his phone privileges at a theater? That's absurd.
As others have pointed out, crying babies/sick people are much more disturbing to moviegoers on a much more common basis. Should we ban them, too?
This is doubly absurd! You think first responders are "adequately compensated"!? Garbage men are generally paid better! (Never mind volunteer Firefighters, who's compensation for their trouble is in the negatives!).
Rights!? RIGHTS!? Are you insane!? Do you even have any idea what that word MEANS!? You do not have a right to watch a movie in a public theater without being bothered! No such right exists! You do have a right to ask the manager to remove a person who's ruining your experience, and if they fail to, you have a right to demand a refund, but you don't have a RIGHT not to be bothered in the first place.
If anything, Doctors/Firefighters/Police have a RIGHT to use the electromagnetic spectrum in a manner set forth by FCC regulation, and your proposal is the closest thing in this conversation to infringing on someone's RIGHTS. You're trying to justify this as doing something about people who don't care about their common man, but the truth of the matter is you're the one who doesn't give a damn about anyone but themselves--all that matters is whether you enjoy your movie.
Or could it be perhaps that thousands to millions of dollars or even people's lives very often depend on you being able to be reached at any time of the day?
Just because you're so unimportant that the world wouldn't notice you disappearing from it for a few hours doesn't mean the same is true for everyone else. The problem is not the fact that the cell phones are there, the problem is the people who refuse to leave a theater to use one.
That said, I think people complaining about cell phone use in restaurants are being ridiculous.
They just don't have the missile technology to deliver them... yet...
What is this? Reverse name dropping? "Well we could always X like Y suggests..." for X="Some Unpopular Activity" and Y="Some Person I Don't Like".
"Well we could always DISEMBOWEL MANATEES like GEORGE CLOONEY suggests..."
"Well we could always EAT BABIES like BILL MAHER suggests..."
"Well we could always FUEL MAGIC DREAM MACHINES WITH THE SOULS OF FORSAKEN CHILDREN like AL GORE suggests..." ...
I guess it is a little cathartic...
Yes, it's an American spelling. And that's exactly the point. Slashdot isn't a "primarily English" site, it's a "primarily American" site.
Also, it's spelled fetus. :)
Yeah, some people are too dumb to be able to tell the difference between Apples and Oranges as well, apparently... Film at 11.
No, because you're leaving off a key point: The people "cutting in line" also didn't pay to see the show.
Good to know.
I think that's all perfectly reasonable. I'm all for issuing work visas. I'd also like to see a huge increase in the amount of visas allowed for skilled workers, as well--we should be welcoming Doctors and Engineers just as readily as fruit pickers, in my opinion. My only caveat is that if you want citizenship, you need to go home and work through the same process as everyone else, not use a work visa as a cheaper and faster alternative route.
I love how people throw around this word "immigrant" like it applies to people in the country illegally equally as well as those who have gone through the legal process.
I despise the existence of illegal aliens, but not because they are "immigrants". And I do not despise them as people, I'm sure they are very nice and there is no malice in what they do. I despise the hypocrisy they represent. I despise them because of friends of mine who want to be in this country but can't be. My favorite example being a good friend in college who's family mortgaged their house just to send him to America to get a good education. And even when he was here, he was under the most ridiculous restrictions regarding his ability to work while a student, constantly under threat of deportation if he missed a paperwork deadline, constantly paying more and more in application fees, paying four times the tuition I paid for the same education, etc. All knowing that if he didn't get his degree and pay back his family's loan in five years, they'd lose their house. Then I showed him an article where Nancy Pelosi said States should be required to give in-state tuition to "illegal immigrants" and he told me "If that passes, I'm tearing up my Visa. I'll be an "illegal immigrant", too."
With this in mind it really pisses me off to be called anti-immigrant. I *love* immigrants. I love the fact that despite my country's massive faults, there are still people who want to come here--it's one of the few things that still makes me feel good about the USA. People who are willing to put up with all the bullshit regulation surrounding immigration just to get here. People who wait for years and years to do it. I want those people rewarded and held up as examples of what's still good about this country. I want things to be easier for them.
And I think any effort to reward those who thumb their noses at the legal process is spitting in the faces of actual immigrants. If anything, people wanting to reward illegal aliens are anti-immigrant.