All C3 "Nehemiah" CPUs starting at 1GHz can do this. I assume, since I do not use MythTV. I use the C3 on a full-fledged server and used it for KDE/Desktop work for months. I had no problems replaying standard MPEG2/MPEG4. The EPIA boards have an MPEG2 decoder, the new ones will have MPEG4 in addition. The new CPU will be faster then the one I use.
Q2: Yes. Many people use a TV card with MPEG2 encoder on their EPIA systems
Q3: Noiseless if you cool it passive
Q4: No, people have done it with the even larger EPIAs
Q5: That depends on your skills and desired features. The Nano-ITX board *might* cost around USD200-250 at introduction. Got this from a sales-guy at a Mini-ITX shop I know.
Again a blatant try of the industry to catch up to something they did not invent: The HTPC.
Have you seen the specs of this Asus thingy ?
In 2004 it has no DVD-Burner !! And a "power off" mode is really archaic. Such a system should be either "power on", then functional or "power off" then disfunctional.
If they would start to build a system, that goes STR and then into standby with a good PSU (not using much energy in standby), that would be interesting. As long it has all the features, like DVD+/-RW.
This is just a waste of money and resources. It sucks.
What Linux needs in general is a powerful scripting-demon. Or let's call it an API demon. Something like ARexx on Amiga (or REXX on OS/2), that sits in the background and connects a scripting environment with message-interfaces of applications. However, my ideal solution would mean, that applications register all their functionality to this demon. Now any language could make use of this API. Especially scripting-anguages, since this is why it would be there.
Then I would like to see all applications coming with freely configurabel toolbars, menus and mous-actions. Any of these would make use of the same functions available at the scripting-demon.
Now, add an Office on top of that and you get really really powerful.
Also I would like to see all the desktop being task based, as I would like to see the Office being task based, rather than applicaiton-based. The system would sense the context in which you are working and adopt. Maybe by learning your habits.
The Office would be fully modular. Wide support for answering-machines, voice-modems, fax. (Hylafax could be addressed due to modularity and scripting). Then I would love to see code being reused:
- completly stylesheet based. No own stylesheet, just extensions to CSS1, CSS2, CSS3) - spreadsheet in "classic" mode and "Lotus Imrpov" mode - full use of relational databases anywhere - full use of LDAP anywhere - no new Fax software. Use Hylafax and/or getty. - no monolithic applications. Instead function-modules, that can 'dock' into each other - status monitor lists recent emails along with contacts. Full integration of IM and email without forcing the user upon certain MUA. - export all to: Web (stylesheets!), PDF. PS, Latex, MS formats etc. - since all is modular people disliking WPCs could replace it with a special TeX editor - visual database designer - visual LDAP schema designer - and many more...
I want all information accessible anywhere in such a complex application.
Nice ! But what do you do with some of the coolest Fighters on the planet ? Yessss ?!
Right. You fight. At least you'd like to. So they sit there, no match. Until they get the idea: Why not call up that guy who got the MiG/Hornet ?
And so they do...
People with so much money won't have any problems equipping them. I mean, let's start to dream. One guy is the guy from that major company you don't like, the other one is that guy you hated in school, who was always so successfull, whatever he started, he would be a winner and all those stupid (and some not so stupid) chicks were saying: "Heeeeellllloooooooouuuuu" wheny they met him.
Oh fuck, that would be heaven ! Just let's hope they meat over the pacific for a game...
Haha maybe im just a n00b who doesnt understand what im learning yet too!
No, it seems you are not mistaken! This could mean an end to Mozilla's XPFE functionality as we know it now.
Windows knows of so called <job>'s. They are XML files, that contain a script (or more) in one or several languages. Typical languages for this are VBScript, JScript, but there is also ActiveX features, that allow Python, Perl or even REXX being used. Such a XML file is something like a program. It will get interpreted by the Windows Scripting Host (WSH), a very clever thing, that Linux is still completly missing (a general scripting host, spanning the whole user-space, exhibiting the APIs of 3rd party applications as well as desktop and so on...).
Actually I am very disappointed by this news. It might mean an end for a project I am working on since 1998. I had found XML to be the perfect carrier for GUI descriptions and JOBs (yes, I even called it the same, though I *never* heard of WSH before, no wonder, I was using AmigaOS till 2000 exclusively). Later I found, that XUL and WSH is very very similare to what I had started on AmigaOS.
THIS REALLY SUCKS ! STOP SOFTWARE PATENTS ! GOD DAMMIT!
Well, one should ask himself what made the computer possible ? Was it the hardware or was it binary arithmetics (the software). Without these arithemtics no machines would have been possible.
Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz (1646-1716), German multi-genius (Philosopher, Lawyer, Politician, Mathematician, Linguist, Historian and Inventor) was the invenotr of binary arithmetics.
Having seen Pascal's computing-machine, he started building his own (1671-1674), which was a continuation of Pascal's.
Inspired by his work on this machine he tried to find something he would call a 'Universal Language', a language, that should make it possible to express oneself without doubt. Having found for what he seeked he wrote in a letter, dating January 2, 1697 to his friend, Duke (?) Rudolf of Braunschweig-Wolfenbuttel (now pronounce that):
"Because one of the main-points of Christian faith is the idea... creation of all out from nothing by the allmighiness of the Lord. Now we can say, that nothing would describe this better, than the origin of the numbers, which is being demonstrated herein by the expression of solely and only zero and one (or nothing). It will be difficult to find any other way in philosophy to express a better example of this mystery... Even better, this comes to our delight, because the empty depth and waste darkness belongs to the null and nothing, the bright and shining spirit of our Lord however belongs to the allmighty one. Looking at the words of this image I have thought about a lot and found it good to say: ''To create all out of nothing, one is enough. (Omnibus es nihilo ducendis sufficit unum)''"
(Please note, that I translated this from German myself, very quickly, very dirty, very freely, without being in posession of the talents and genius of the person I tried to translate)
So, Leibniz was the inventor of binary arithmetics, the most basic level of all digital.
>If you want to support legacy hardware, try it with something that isn't completely >ancient like making X run better on old Pentium computers. At least they can run >most modern operating systems.
That's exactly the point. There is no operating system, that is so much modern than AmigaOS. Yes, it lacks SMP, MP and real resource tracking, but it judjge after these lines for yourself:
Running 2.4.21-0.16mm-mdk/KDE on a VIA C3 "Nehemiah" 1GHz with 256MB od PC2100 RAM lets me wait more time than I wait in the A4000/MC68060/83MB pre-EDO-RAM/VGA-card. This is doing memory hungry graphics work, heavy multitasking and having several servers and browsers running. It is true. You average modern OS is slower on faster hardware than is OS3.9 on an Amiga from 1992 with a CPU and VGA from 1995. It is a fact. I got them all installed and running. Yes, I know, it is the swapping, that takes ages, but so what ? I get filled all in 83MB of RAM. The binaries and libraries are so much smaller on AmigaOS.
And yes, it is right I reboot my Miggy 10 times a day, while I have an uptime now of 4 weeks on Linux, but I can live with that. (btw: I use AmigaOS on Amithlon now (except if I do webpage testing), which boots directly into AmigaOS on top of a Linux kernel on x86, so a lot less crashes anymore.)
What email/news-reader do I find on Linux ? They are *all* crap when compared to UMS/PINT.
What about text-editors ? Vim/Emacs, yes, they are nice, but learning emacs (my choice off Amiga) takes ages. On Amiga all I need to know is one single scripting language and soon I can script all major applications and many of the mid-range ones. Including my editor. Where do you find an IRC client such as AmIRC ? X-Chat is trying to copy it. But it does not succeed. It is all about integration. With AmIRC I can use the same low-level ARexx macros I use from my filemanager or editor to access my mail/news database, all I need is some higher-level application macros. And voila: I got a mail/newsreader in the filemanager (use mailfboxes as simulated filesystem, along with copy, moce, delete, extract, archive, using the same buttons as for filesystem-actions), I can research msg-ids from the editor when replying, finding quotes in older mails or just do a '/mail show new' or a '/mail new user@foobar.org' in my IRC client for a quickie. This enhances workflow by so much, that I'd be happy to do all of my everydays things on Amiga.
Only the real browser is still missing and a powerful vector-drawing program with SVG export. Yes, XML is not supported well and LDAP is missing. Besides that, all is fine with Apache, MySQL and the whole GNU dev-suite. And you would not want to use a CPU like that for any modern audio/video processing, but who does this anyway ?
As I am no gfx-artist I do not need Photoshop. ArtEffect or ImageFX does a very nice job. So does PerfectPaint or PersonalPaint, again, all these applications are scriptable by the very same language.
So, for me Amiga still is the machine of choice. WindowsXPpro is nice, I use it a lot, Linux is nice, I use it a lot, but AmigaOS is my overall choice, it is simply more fun to work with it. Much more fun.
Or what do you think, how does it come people still invest high amounts of money into a machine, that had no real maturing since 1992 ? Check that out ! People *still* spend much money on Amiga hardware. They pay $200 or so just so they are able to use PCI cards, add a Voodoo VGA, Soundblaster and USB1.1 for lots of money. Amiga *is* fantastic. It hardware 10 years ahead. The OS was 10 years ahead. And still is in some cases.
If you compare Linux VFS to the way Amiga does it (just write a small device-driver and you got a new device, that *all* applications can access, they do not need extra support for it).
Want any OS conform application to support the new XYZ image format ? The author of this application is dead ? No problem. Just write a so called datatype for it and there you go.
I have 5 or so Amigas, and the only thing that makes my interest so slight is lack of an ethernet card for them. $100+ for 10baseT on ebay is absurd, even by my standards.
Hehe, believe me, once you have it you 'feel' you got something worth of $1000+, that you payed 'only' $100 for.
I got a 10baseT (X-Surf) for EU90 and won't miss it anymore. It's just nice to run your Miggy next to the modern PC and change keyboard on your lap, quickly change the mouse in your palm and watch the two monitors.
"But I think I somehow agree with you, how cares really about porting Mozilla to Amiga while there are lots of useful Open Source projects that require more support?"
How can you say that ? What do you know ?
Mozilla would be the first browser on AmigaOS to *fully* support CSS and Javascript. The only browser on AmigaOS with CSS support, as far as I know, is the latest IBrowse andI doubt it is a browser you would consider first choice for web-development.
Amiga is a darn nice web-development platform. All is there: A bunch of the most easy to use and very powerful pixel-based graphics tools and bitmap painters. There is not a *single* paint program on Linux, that even comes close to the ones on AmigaOS. It has some of the best text-editors around, yes, even emacs and vim, you'd fall in laughter comparing CED or GED to any of the KDE or Gnome editors. They're a joke.
AmigaOS is fully scriptable, using one, and only one language. This is a heaven of a developers environment. The full standard GNU dev-suite is available, Also an X11 implementation. There is a native Python implementation (not just a single port but all along with native Amiga 'site' stuff). Not the latest, however. There is Apache with mod-php, there is PHP stand-alone.
I do all my web development on AmigaOS, however, I need to run a second machine just so I can use a good and modern browser...
Oh, last but not least:
Mozilla is more than a browser. It is an application framework. Having Moz on the Miggy would allow all Amiga users to run Mozilla applications and develop new ones. I wanted to do something like XUL around 1998 using MUI, but had no time, so I gave up. I would be pretty glad to see XUL on Amiga, maybe with full ARexx support.
Yesss, finally someone who can respect my decision to equip all my rooms with redundant power-, coax- (TV+FM) and phone-outlets.
Though, I ripped the phone-outlets and replaced it with CAT5e, HARHARHAR!
My appartment was being renovated completely in 1999. And I *knew* oh so exactly what will happen. I knew it, I just knew it !
So I instructed the architect to equip each room with two phone-outlets and redundant power-outlets, I got even TV+FM coax in the kitchen. I also added, that I want networking, to which he replied: "Sure, your appartment will be modern for the next ten years." Hmm...
I went to hospital, Mom supervised them. One day I got a call from Mom and the electrician was right at place. So I told him: Network! Network. E-T-H-E-R-N-E-T. He answered: "Yeah, yeah, network. Computer. Internet. I know. Dadidadi-Dumm."
Somehow I had a strange feeling about that guy.
When I came back I found/his/ network: None! He though: Since I am going to have phone-lines anywhere I will be able to simply plug in a modem and call my ISP.
God, how awfull. Sadly I never managed meeting him in the dark on a lone street...
Anyway, I tore the phonestrips out (who needs them anyway these days with wireless DECT-phones) and replaced all by CAT5e, which I split, so I got two LAN ports per room. It would have been possible to keep one as phone-line, but as I said, I have a DECT.
I am sooo satisfied now. I can bring the girls home ! I switch on the STB (Linux, of course) in my bedroom and we watch the news, that get streamed from the MediaServer I have built and which is in the living-room. Chicks are not really interested in how it works, but I don't mind. It would be much worse to start each time over: "No, darling, the cables can not be torn away, the *need* to be on the floor, since this is *how* we watch TV. What ? I have done stupid ? Why I do not do it like the other guys ? Using a TV with antenna ?" Huahuahua.
*I* *won* !:-)
Just...I am short on power-outlets again. I have really a lot, but I already have started adding extendors. Too bad. But I did not know four years ago, I would have three computers in my living-room. And what I saved by dumping the HiFi, SAT-box and VCR is now being consumed by two servers, a force-feedback joystick, the switch and misc-equipment.
Now all I'd need would be good surges. Not those el-cheapo ones. I mean, real surges with line-conditioner, computed up to the joule.
BTW: Anyone got that formula, how to compute the surge ? One must check the Joule and... Please post, thanks:)
Thanks for pointing that out (for the Fax I only need a RS232, since I run an external (stand-alone) modem and HylaFax).
Only problem left: I do live in Europe. But I will use the info to investigate:-)
But: Why are these devices all so limited ? Honestly, I want all my Networking done in one box (Gateway,Firewall,Printserv,external Modem (FaxServ), wireless access-point, ethernet and HomePNA, no additional hubs/switches...I am at home, you know ?!
From Coolermaster there is a brushed ALU case, MicroATX format, 42cm wide (HiFi components are 43cm wide), has hidden drive bays (two external 5 1/4) and 2 internal 3 1/2 (no need for floppy anyway, try split&join with a 2GB movie. lol)
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YUK!YUK!YUK!
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I don't know either TiVO not Reaplay. But I know VDR:
It has remote control support through either LIRC (linus default IR project) or a self-built transmitter/receiver. However, most use LIRC since many of the DVB cards come with the IR already in the package.
As for listings:
In the OSD you can browse the chanels by name. As soon as you select one the channel switches..
Also from the OSD you can browse all shedules for a channel for this day. Hitting Enter will add it to the recording-sheduler.
Also, you can select INFO on a certain entry in the program and, if the broadcaster submits it, you get a short overview of that show, written to the OSD.
Image quality is similar to DVD with the difference, that TV broadcasts often are more grainy. This is MPEG2 after all.
"Intelligence" is upon the community. It is a stable "production-environment" release but there is still work to do inintegration with other apps (i.e. SQL databases). However, it is just a few lines of perl-code and you can add as many commands/scripts to its OSD as you want. Select it and it gets executed with the STDOUT optional on the OSD.
" Frankly I want a no-brainer to handle my TV recording; not to have to put together a perl script just to record "Naked Chef "
Well, it is not exactly there yet, but there is more than a foundation for what you want. You do not need to write a perl script at all. You can program the VDR by itself.
You also can already program it via http, if you desire.
If you want to integrate an external database (not really needed) but someone might want to just change a few lines in existing perl scripts (TVProgs vcrwrapper.pl) and there you go.
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In the EU, though...
finally, a great build yourself TIVO setup. i didn't see if there's a project to build a public database of showtimes/channels for people to get. shouldn't be that challenging.
The first is the EPG data, trasnmitted along with the program. This is program info being broadcast by the broadcaster. It is not programmable (might be done if a parser is written, dunno) but it will list the shedules/day along with a summary for the movie/report/news/whatever. VDR can display this.
Then there are several projects to make use of publically avaialable databases. The implementations differ from country to country, for the Astra sattelites one could use TVProg (check it out on Freshmeat or Sourceforge), which will fetch the TV-guide for the day (or period) you specify and import it into a MySQL database. It has an incredibly clean and easy to use CGI frontend and a perl-wrapper to program the analogue Linux VCR. It only would need a port of this wrapper to the VDR system to incooperate it.
There are at least three other such projects of which I forgot the name, however.
i'm sure a decent setup HDD, video card, and processor is near the price of a tivo, but this lends it self to much much more.
You don't even need a video card. What you need is the TV card(s) themselve(s), one is enough, two and more allow for timeshifting of one or two channels. They are not cheap, however, not as cheap as the analog cards. Each such card has its own TV-Out. Mine has TV-Out, Stereo+Surround RCA out and an additional mini jack out for audio. Control of the VDR can be done over the net by using the SVDRP protocol (Simple VDR Protocol) or by telnetting into your VDR box.
I haven't used a Zaurus myself, yet, but I intend to buy one. I will buy it mostly due to its hardware specs.
Looking at screnshots of the Qtopia Desktop I believe that it sucks big time and is not what a PDA desktop should be designed. I like Palms desktop and the PSIONs (IMO the best).
But I want Linux since it allows me to to a lot of things with my homenetwork from the road. And the hardware seems just right.
So much about my opinion on the Zaurus.
Now, to reply to your comment: The review was awfull ! The reviewer only had a superficial look (in his review at least). No in-depth review, just scratching the surface. Even for a non-techie audience, this was just opinion/rant, NOT a review.
they lock out users from the thousands of existing Palm and Windows CE programs.
I wonder how many applications are being hosted alone on Freshmeat and SourceForge !?
Once again, we have the "no apps for it, so nobody buys it, so nobody programs apps for it" circle.
./configure make make install
Ok, it won't be that simple, there will be a need to adopt some lines of code in the sources to the different environment.
But QTopia has a major advantage: QT supports it in their IDE (if I remember correctly) and porting QT/KDE applications (about 30% of all Linux software, I'd say) won't be too difficult.
Having said this and tested several PDA (Palm, WindowsCE/PocketPC, GEOS (on Nokia Communicator), PSION MX5 (what was it called, SymbiOS or so ?!)) I have not come across any GUI/PDA-desktop more intuitive and comfortalbe than the PSION MX5 one. Open it, go ahead, no RTFM needed.
Reading about the efforts to replace/enhance the Zaurus ROM I am pretty sure, the community will replace all that is not good enough. Of course, this won't help Joe Consumer, but at least for those, who are a bit technical, we will see a rush of good apps, I am pretty sure. Hey, it's Linux after all, all specs and docs are available.
And opposing to this proposal from SUN it already exists ! Full binary compatible video games, running on the AmigaDE (which is more of a "virtual computer" than a "virtual machine". Plans are to make this a stand-alone OS, binary independant, coming with complete HAL and a virtual CPU concept. (Similare to Transmetas "translation" layer between the CPU and the Software, but this is CPU independant and offers much more (API and driver wise)
"AmigaAnywhere" (aka: "AmigaDE") runs currently hosted on Linux, Windows and WindowsCE.NET utilizing many diffeent CPUs and hardware, such as desktops, PDA and cell-phones (did not see the latter but ithasbeen planned/announced).
This is a product in its early stages however and one has to see where it goes. But it is not only a gaming-engine. It is to become a real, completely hardware independant "instant OS / instant computer".
Before I lead to confusion: This product is "not there yet" but it is part of the final plan.
The AmigaDE is a "virtual computer" and thus AmigaDE applications run anywhere. They are binary compatible to all devices the DE engine runs on. Some say: "This is like Java." But it is not. Java is a runtime-environment (in this case) but
the AmigaDE is a fully virtual computer, coming with its own CPU.
What does this mean, especially in referral to your question ?
It means, that all your beloved applications run everywhere. This way you need to carry a disk only, on which you have installed your favourite applications, databases etc. and as soon you find yourself using other hardware the DE runs on, you just slide in your disk and the "virtual computer" deflates. You use the same machine as the one at home, the DE does scale down and adapts to the hardware it is running on, be it a desktop, a PDA, a notebook or a special terminal at the airport (well, I said its not there yet;-)).
While this does not mean that you access a central server remotely over a network (your question), this way you take your "central" machine away with you on a ZIP/JAZ disk (or so).
This is all very interesting and exciting stuff. However, Amiga Inc. have not yet shown, who and what they are, and this makes me raise an eyebrow and concerned if we will see the DE ever going so far, to utilize its full potential.
This is such (theoretical at least) a revolution, that it will need time to absorb and get accustomed to. And the market plays an important role as well, sigh.
At the moment the AmigaDE is nothing more than a system running on (I am naming the most important platfomrs only) Windows, WindowsCE.NET, Linux (RedHat offer(ed?)s the SDK on their web-page (once?)) and others, mainly to play games on PDAs.
Isn't $500 a little expensive for the board? A new iMac only costs $1,299.00 from the Apple Store and you get much more for the same price. There is also the matter of supporting Apple.
As far as I remember the first press release a few days back the price was targeted at USD 600 excluding taxes....but with G3 "onboard"
But apart from that: You can bet every Amiga user would rather support Amiga than an Apple Mac. And I guess, if you'd ever used an Amiga seriously (i.e everyday's work, applications, internet) you would not even think for a second like this.
Besides: Amiga users never supported any Mac hardware sales, they ran MacOS7-8 on top of AmigaOS;-))
I just checked out the press-release. It is definatly with the embedded market in view:
"Red Hat's embedded development expertise has resulted in the creation
of a toolchain that will enable Motorola to provide Linux-based
applications to their customers," said Michael Tiemann, CTO of Red Hat.
"Our GNUPro support for Motorola's AltiVec-enabled host processors
further extends Linux development to embedded devices."
The G3/G4, Power4 etc. belong to the PowerPC (PPC) family of CPUs. Of course, we all know this.
However, few participating in the discussion seem to acknowledge, that there is more systems running PPC than Apple's Macs.
PPC is important in the embedded market. It has a high performance, stays relatively cool There are 'computers on a card' (a PCI card with a G3/G4 on it plus memory). They communicate over TCP/IP (or proprietary protocols) over the PCI bus with the host system. Nice if you want to have a mini cluster, a physical firewall, or whatever...
This one has been announced (German text)a year ago or so but not yet been sold. It is based on the Pegasos below.
A search on Google for embedded PPCresults in approx. 27.000 hits one being this
Then we have several (Micro)ATX mobos, some even for dual G4 (SMP). They get used mostly in the industry, however, this year will see two new home/office-desktop G3/G4 systems that have nothing in common with Apple.
See here:
So it is obvious that RedHat, being focussed more on industry/server markets than on hte Desktop (that is their current goal as far as I am informed) has some interest in supporting PPC development. Altivec is a very good instruction set and having optimizations for it will be a great benefit. Altivec is not only for MultiMedia, btw. !
Theoretically, all these systems could run LinuxPPC !
Personally I am happy to see some major resource supporting the PowerPC since I would prefer a PPC machine far more than the archaical, outlived, patched & hacked i86 platform (can you use all your PCI slots without clashes...? I can't and my MoBo is from April last year...) Also the PPCs keep quite cool, meaning one could live without an active fan, unlike the Athlon hair-driers...;-)
These are all KDE centric questions - not because I am
saying Gnome dosen't have them, but just because I know KDE
does.
Right, your answers are KDE-centric. My rant was about "common
standards". I know all you write about KDE but you completely
missed my point.
Inter Process Communication on application-scripting
level.
That's what DCOP is. You can even script via shell scripts... or
tie in with just about any language (C, C++, Python, etc). It uses
X to communicate, and the C bindings are being rewritten (right
now, although they don't require any sort of GUI, they require you
to link to Qt... this dependancy is being removed).
Yes I know DCOP. And I like it. However, DCOP != Bonobo. I was
talking about a "common base"
I found no place yet neither in Gnome nor KDE to identify
files by a match against certain rules...
Right click on a file, and choose "Edit File Type...". Or, if
you don't have an example file, do into the Control Center, and
choose "File Manager, File Associations". Or go to Settings in
Konqueror, "Configure Konqueror", and you can pull up the same
"File Associations" panel that is in the Control Center.
Also of these things I am aware. But where in these dialogs can
I match files against certain rules ? As a user I need to know where to find my 'magic' file and how to edit it. I have seens implementations of exactly what we are talking about aroun 1994 on another system. And it was very easy to use and comfortable for the casual user
I am in need for global keyboard shortcuts.
Well, if you mean global in the environment, you can go to the
Control Center/Look and Feel/Key Bindings. There are settings for
Global Shortcuts (like launching an app, changing desktops, etc),
Sequences (a la emacs - these are being improved for KDE3), and
Application Shortcuts (Copy, Paste, Print, Save, etc.). The
Application Shortcuts obviously don't apply to Gnome apps, but the
rest do (including the really nice "Alt-F2 to run a command"), even
when the Gnome app has focus.
Again, I already mentioned this in my post earlier...Did you
read it ? I know of these. And I explicitely was not talking
"environment centric"...
I want applications to start implementing their
functionality as exportable (to the scripting host)
commands
That's how KDE is fundimentally built... that's what KParts is.
Konqueror is not an application - it's just a KPart container...
there's almost no code other than things like saving window
position, etc. As different KParts are loaded (possibly in
different frames) the UI (like menus and toolbars) changes. Load a
video into an app, and the video play controls appear, even though
the app itself knows nothing about playing a video. KOffice is an
app that looks like Outlook - icons down the side for KWord,
KSpread, etc. It embeds the app inside the main window. In
addition, you can even use DCOP to alter the UI in some apps like
Konqueror (use bash to change your menus).
KPARTS are very nice indeed and match my many whishes I have.
But I was not talking about programmers. I was talking (read my
post again) about "users/powerusers". Where in any of these
applications do I have a Configuration->Edit Menu dialog ?
Something where I can set any and all commands a menu should
execute. (For an example: In an editor I would assign LOAD_FILE to
a File->Open Menu-Entry (as a user !). Or assign CRSR_UP to the
corresponding key. Or MARK_BLOCK_VERTICAL to a MOUSE_MID_BUTTON
event...That was what I meant. Again, as a user. It might happen,
but we are not there yet.
How many contact lists do you have ? I have one in KMail (is
up quicker than Evo and KDE's default)
Interesting that you say that - KDE only has one contact list.
All apps access it. You can even, in KMail, choose which interface
you want to use for it... there are several little apps that are
front ends for this universal contact list, and you can choose
which one you want to use on a per app basis.
No, it is not interesting, that I said this, because I was
stating, that KMail is just one of these applications I use.
Neither Opera shares the same addressbook with KDE nor does
Evolution. It is possible to import/export, but I dream more of
some LDAP like repository for such stuff, being default in both
enivronments.
I'd imagine that Gnome has similar features - but they
are different. Just as Windows and Mac have different formats for
communication, scripting and binaries. The key to remember is that
these two projects are building more than just an interface - they
are building structured, logical tools to build
applications.
And this is exactly what I am against ! And the fact we find
this does not mean it is good. Especially not in an open
environemnt, such as Open Source. Exactly this needs to be
addressed. And even industry tries to make it better. However, they
have still fears in loosing money, once they get fully
interchangable.
With KDE3, nice things like data-aware widgets and
database-agnostic connections are introduced... stuff that is
*hardly* "eye-candy" or "useless themeing". That's what the rush is
for - to make the best platform for quick and easy development of
powerful and flexable applications - because, in the end, that's
all that people use.
No, quick and easy development happens on the programming level.
If Linux wants to make it to the coorporate and home desktop, apart
from geekism, we need all these things KDE and Gnome has, plus many
of the things me and others want on the user level. Easily
accessible for them. The OS I come from exactly does half of the
stuff I wanted: It has fully scriptable applications (which led to
masses of enhancing scripts being published by users who learned an
easy to use scripting language) and it also, based on this power,
fully (and I mean fully) configurable applications (though, they
are in a minority)
I have the feeling your only point in reply is to praise KDE,
since you absolutely did not follow the logic in my post (I hope
there was some, lol;-))
I agree with you in every single point about the benefits of KDE.
Each of your points was a point why I use it...BUt my previous
comment was about "Globalization" not about clever national
infrastructure, if I may say so.
To sum my rantings up: I am well aware, that as a developer I have powerful environments at my fingertips. But one of the major steps Linux wants to do is getting on normal user's desktops. None of the things you mentioned here are accessible in an easy fashion and environment-independantly for the user in a way I was resorting to in my previous post. Only time will tell...
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Dude! Why don't you just read the specs ?
It's got an MPEG2/MPEG4 chip, okay ?!
Q1: Yes
All C3 "Nehemiah" CPUs starting at 1GHz can do this. I assume, since I do not use MythTV. I use the C3 on a full-fledged server and used it for KDE/Desktop work for months. I had no problems replaying standard MPEG2/MPEG4. The EPIA boards have an MPEG2 decoder, the new ones will have MPEG4 in addition. The new CPU will be faster then the one I use.
Q2: Yes. Many people use a TV card with MPEG2 encoder on their EPIA systems
Q3: Noiseless if you cool it passive
Q4: No, people have done it with the even larger EPIAs
Q5: That depends on your skills and desired features. The Nano-ITX board *might* cost around USD200-250 at introduction. Got this from a sales-guy at a Mini-ITX shop I know.
Again a blatant try of the industry to catch up to something they did not invent: The HTPC.
Have you seen the specs of this Asus thingy ?
In 2004 it has no DVD-Burner !!
And a "power off" mode is really archaic. Such a system should be either "power on", then functional or "power off" then disfunctional.
If they would start to build a system, that goes STR and then into standby with a good PSU (not using much energy in standby), that would be interesting. As long it has all the features, like DVD+/-RW.
This is just a waste of money and resources. It sucks.
What Linux needs in general is a powerful scripting-demon. Or let's call it an API demon. Something like ARexx on Amiga (or REXX on OS/2), that sits in the background and connects a scripting environment with message-interfaces of applications. However, my ideal solution would mean, that applications register all their functionality to this demon. Now any language could make use of this API. Especially scripting-anguages, since this is why it would be there.
Then I would like to see all applications coming with freely configurabel toolbars, menus and mous-actions. Any of these would make use of the same functions available at the scripting-demon.
Now, add an Office on top of that and you get really really powerful.
Also I would like to see all the desktop being task based, as I would like to see the Office being task based, rather than applicaiton-based.
The system would sense the context in which you are working and adopt. Maybe by learning your habits.
The Office would be fully modular. Wide support for answering-machines, voice-modems, fax. (Hylafax could be addressed due to modularity and scripting).
Then I would love to see code being reused:
- completly stylesheet based. No own stylesheet, just extensions to CSS1, CSS2, CSS3)
- spreadsheet in "classic" mode and "Lotus Imrpov" mode
- full use of relational databases anywhere
- full use of LDAP anywhere
- no new Fax software. Use Hylafax and/or getty.
- no monolithic applications. Instead function-modules, that can 'dock' into each other
- status monitor lists recent emails along with contacts. Full integration of IM and email without forcing the user upon certain MUA.
- export all to: Web (stylesheets!), PDF. PS, Latex, MS formats etc.
- since all is modular people disliking WPCs could replace it with a special TeX editor
- visual database designer
- visual LDAP schema designer
- and many more...
I want all information accessible anywhere in such a complex application.
So... The one guy buys the Hornet.
The other guy buys the MiG.
Nice ! But what do you do with some of the coolest Fighters on the planet ? Yessss ?!
Right. You fight. At least you'd like to. So they sit there, no match. Until they get the idea: Why not call up that guy who got the MiG/Hornet ?
And so they do...
People with so much money won't have any problems equipping them. I mean, let's start to dream. One guy is the guy from that major company you don't like, the other one is that guy you hated in school, who was always so successfull, whatever he started, he would be a winner and all those stupid (and some not so stupid) chicks were saying: "Heeeeellllloooooooouuuuu" wheny they met him.
Oh fuck, that would be heaven ! Just let's hope they meat over the pacific for a game...
No, it seems you are not mistaken! This could mean an end to Mozilla's XPFE functionality as we know it now.
Windows knows of so called <job>'s. They are XML files, that contain a script (or more) in one or several languages. Typical languages for this are VBScript, JScript, but there is also ActiveX features, that allow Python, Perl or even REXX being used. Such a XML file is something like a program. It will get interpreted by the Windows Scripting Host (WSH), a very clever thing, that Linux is still completly missing (a general scripting host, spanning the whole user-space, exhibiting the APIs of 3rd party applications as well as desktop and so on...).
Actually I am very disappointed by this news. It might mean an end for a project I am working on since 1998. I had found XML to be the perfect carrier for GUI descriptions and JOBs (yes, I even called it the same, though I *never* heard of WSH before, no wonder, I was using AmigaOS till 2000 exclusively). Later I found, that XUL and WSH is very very similare to what I had started on AmigaOS.
THIS REALLY SUCKS ! STOP SOFTWARE PATENTS ! GOD DAMMIT!
Well, one should ask himself what made the computer possible ? Was it the hardware or was it binary arithmetics (the software). Without these arithemtics no machines would have been possible.
Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz (1646-1716), German multi-genius (Philosopher, Lawyer, Politician, Mathematician, Linguist, Historian and Inventor) was the invenotr of binary arithmetics.
Having seen Pascal's computing-machine, he started building his own (1671-1674), which was a continuation of Pascal's.
Inspired by his work on this machine he tried to find something he would call a 'Universal Language', a language, that should make it possible to express oneself without doubt. Having found for what he seeked he wrote in a letter, dating January 2, 1697 to his friend, Duke (?) Rudolf of Braunschweig-Wolfenbuttel (now pronounce that):
(Please note, that I translated this from German myself, very quickly, very dirty, very freely, without being in posession of the talents and genius of the person I tried to translate)So, Leibniz was the inventor of binary arithmetics, the most basic level of all digital.
>If you want to support legacy hardware, try it with something that isn't completely >ancient like making X run better on old Pentium computers. At least they can run >most modern operating systems.
That's exactly the point. There is no operating system, that is so much modern than AmigaOS. Yes, it lacks SMP, MP and real resource tracking, but it judjge after these lines for yourself:
Running 2.4.21-0.16mm-mdk/KDE on a VIA C3 "Nehemiah" 1GHz with 256MB od PC2100 RAM lets me wait more time than I wait in the A4000/MC68060/83MB pre-EDO-RAM/VGA-card. This is doing memory hungry graphics work, heavy multitasking and having several servers and browsers running. It is true. You average modern OS is slower on faster hardware than is OS3.9 on an Amiga from 1992 with a CPU and VGA from 1995. It is a fact. I got them all installed and running. Yes, I know, it is the swapping, that takes ages, but so what ? I get filled all in 83MB of RAM. The binaries and libraries are so much smaller on AmigaOS.
And yes, it is right I reboot my Miggy 10 times a day, while I have an uptime now of 4 weeks on Linux, but I can live with that. (btw: I use AmigaOS on Amithlon now (except if I do webpage testing), which boots directly into AmigaOS on top of a Linux kernel on x86, so a lot less crashes anymore.)
What email/news-reader do I find on Linux ? They are *all* crap when compared to UMS/PINT.
What about text-editors ? Vim/Emacs, yes, they are nice, but learning emacs (my choice off Amiga) takes ages. On Amiga all I need to know is one single scripting language and soon I can script all major applications and many of the mid-range ones. Including my editor. Where do you find an IRC client such as AmIRC ? X-Chat is trying to copy it. But it does not succeed. It is all about integration. With AmIRC I can use the same low-level ARexx macros I use from my filemanager or editor to access my mail/news database, all I need is some higher-level application macros.
And voila: I got a mail/newsreader in the filemanager (use mailfboxes as simulated filesystem, along with copy, moce, delete, extract, archive, using the same buttons as for filesystem-actions), I can research msg-ids from the editor when replying, finding quotes in older mails or just do a '/mail show new' or a '/mail new user@foobar.org' in my IRC client for a quickie. This enhances workflow by so much, that I'd be happy to do all of my everydays things on Amiga.
Only the real browser is still missing and a powerful vector-drawing program with SVG export. Yes, XML is not supported well and LDAP is missing. Besides that, all is fine with Apache, MySQL and the whole GNU dev-suite. And you would not want to use a CPU like that for any modern audio/video processing, but who does this anyway ?
As I am no gfx-artist I do not need Photoshop. ArtEffect or ImageFX does a very nice job. So does PerfectPaint or PersonalPaint, again, all these applications are scriptable by the very same language.
So, for me Amiga still is the machine of choice. WindowsXPpro is nice, I use it a lot, Linux is nice, I use it a lot, but AmigaOS is my overall choice, it is simply more fun to work with it. Much more fun.
Or what do you think, how does it come people still invest high amounts of money into a machine, that had no real maturing since 1992 ? Check that out ! People *still* spend much money on Amiga hardware. They pay $200 or so just so they are able to use PCI cards, add a Voodoo VGA, Soundblaster and USB1.1 for lots of money. Amiga *is* fantastic. It hardware 10 years ahead. The OS was 10 years ahead. And still is in some cases.
If you compare Linux VFS to the way Amiga does it (just write a small device-driver and you got a new device, that *all* applications can access, they do not need extra support for it).
Want any OS conform application to support the new XYZ image format ? The author of this application is dead ? No problem. Just write a so called datatype for it and there you go.
Windows is a bloat
Hehe, believe me, once you have it you 'feel' you got something worth of $1000+, that you payed 'only' $100 for.
I got a 10baseT (X-Surf) for EU90 and won't miss it anymore. It's just nice to run your Miggy next to the modern PC and change keyboard on your lap, quickly change the mouse in your palm and watch the two monitors.
"But I think I somehow agree with you, how cares really about porting Mozilla to Amiga while there are lots of useful Open Source projects that require more support?"
How can you say that ? What do you know ?
Mozilla would be the first browser on AmigaOS to *fully* support CSS and Javascript. The only browser on AmigaOS with CSS support, as far as I know, is the latest IBrowse andI doubt it is a browser you would consider first choice for web-development.
Amiga is a darn nice web-development platform. All is there: A bunch of the most easy to use and very powerful pixel-based graphics tools and bitmap painters. There is not a *single* paint program on Linux, that even comes close to the ones on AmigaOS. It has some of the best text-editors around, yes, even emacs and vim, you'd fall in laughter comparing CED or GED to any of the KDE or Gnome editors. They're a joke.
AmigaOS is fully scriptable, using one, and only one language. This is a heaven of a developers environment. The full standard GNU dev-suite is available,
Also an X11 implementation. There is a native Python implementation (not just a single port but all along with native Amiga 'site' stuff). Not the latest, however.
There is Apache with mod-php, there is PHP stand-alone.
I do all my web development on AmigaOS, however, I need to run a second machine just so I can use a good and modern browser...
Oh, last but not least:
Mozilla is more than a browser. It is an application framework. Having Moz on the Miggy would allow all Amiga users to run Mozilla applications and develop new ones.
I wanted to do something like XUL around 1998 using MUI, but had no time, so I gave up. I would be pretty glad to see XUL on Amiga, maybe with full ARexx support.
Yesss, finally someone who can respect my decision to equip all my rooms with redundant power-, coax- (TV+FM) and phone-outlets.
/his/ network: None! He though: Since I am going to have phone-lines anywhere I will be able to simply plug in a modem and call my ISP.
:-)
:)
Though, I ripped the phone-outlets and replaced it with CAT5e, HARHARHAR!
My appartment was being renovated completely in 1999. And I *knew* oh so exactly what will happen. I knew it, I just knew it !
So I instructed the architect to equip each room with two phone-outlets and redundant power-outlets, I got even TV+FM coax in the kitchen.
I also added, that I want networking, to which he replied: "Sure, your appartment will be modern for the next ten years." Hmm...
I went to hospital, Mom supervised them. One day I got a call from Mom and the electrician was right at place. So I told him: Network! Network. E-T-H-E-R-N-E-T. He answered: "Yeah, yeah, network. Computer. Internet. I know. Dadidadi-Dumm."
Somehow I had a strange feeling about that guy.
When I came back I found
God, how awfull. Sadly I never managed meeting him in the dark on a lone street...
Anyway, I tore the phonestrips out (who needs them anyway these days with wireless DECT-phones) and replaced all by CAT5e, which I split, so I got two LAN ports per room. It would have been possible to keep one as phone-line, but as I said, I have a DECT.
I am sooo satisfied now. I can bring the girls home ! I switch on the STB (Linux, of course) in my bedroom and we watch the news, that get streamed from the MediaServer I have built and which is in the living-room. Chicks are not really interested in how it works, but I don't mind. It would be much worse to start each time over: "No, darling, the cables can not be torn away, the *need* to be on the floor, since this is *how* we watch TV.
What ? I have done stupid ? Why I do not do it like the other guys ? Using a TV with antenna ?" Huahuahua.
*I* *won* !
Just...I am short on power-outlets again. I have really a lot, but I already have started adding extendors. Too bad. But I did not know four years ago, I would have three computers in my living-room. And what I saved by dumping the HiFi, SAT-box and VCR is now being consumed by two servers, a force-feedback joystick, the switch and misc-equipment.
Now all I'd need would be good surges. Not those el-cheapo ones. I mean, real surges with line-conditioner, computed up to the joule.
BTW: Anyone got that formula, how to compute the surge ? One must check the Joule and... Please post, thanks
Thanks for pointing that out (for the Fax I only need a RS232, since I run an external (stand-alone) modem and HylaFax). Only problem left: I do live in Europe. But I will use the info to investigate :-)
A little larger (maybe) but still nice and small, with 3 Ethernet, CompactFlash, SSD, 486/100MHz based and more:
SoekrisBut: Why are these devices all so limited ? Honestly, I want all my Networking done in one box (Gateway,Firewall,Printserv,external Modem (FaxServ), wireless access-point, ethernet and HomePNA, no additional hubs/switches...I am at home, you know ?!
I know...
From Coolermaster there is a brushed ALU case, MicroATX format, 42cm wide (HiFi components are 43cm wide), has hidden drive bays (two external 5 1/4) and 2 internal 3 1/2 (no need for floppy anyway, try split&join with a 2GB movie. lol)
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YUK!YUK!YUK!
I don't know either TiVO not Reaplay. But I know VDR:
It has remote control support through either LIRC (linus default IR project) or a self-built transmitter/receiver. However, most use LIRC since many of the DVB cards come with the IR already in the package.
As for listings:
In the OSD you can browse the chanels by name. As soon as you select one the channel switches..
Also from the OSD you can browse all shedules for a channel for this day. Hitting Enter will add it to the recording-sheduler.
Also, you can select INFO on a certain entry in the program and, if the broadcaster submits it, you get a short overview of that show, written to the OSD.
Image quality is similar to DVD with the difference, that TV broadcasts often are more grainy. This is MPEG2 after all.
"Intelligence" is upon the community. It is a stable "production-environment" release but there is still work to do inintegration with other apps (i.e. SQL databases). However, it is just a few lines of perl-code and you can add as many commands/scripts to its OSD as you want. Select it and it gets executed with the STDOUT optional on the OSD.
"
Frankly I want a no-brainer to handle my TV recording; not to have to put together a perl script just to record "Naked Chef
"
Well, it is not exactly there yet, but there is more than a foundation for what you want. You do not need to write a perl script at all. You can program the VDR by itself.
You also can already program it via http, if you desire.
If you want to integrate an external database (not really needed) but someone might want to just change a few lines in existing perl scripts (TVProgs vcrwrapper.pl) and there you go.
In the EU, though...
The first is the EPG data, trasnmitted along with the program. This is program info being broadcast by the broadcaster. It is not programmable (might be done if a parser is written, dunno) but it will list the shedules/day along with a summary for the movie/report/news/whatever. VDR can display this.
Then there are several projects to make use of publically avaialable databases. The implementations differ from country to country, for the Astra sattelites one could use TVProg (check it out on Freshmeat or Sourceforge), which will fetch the TV-guide for the day (or period) you specify and import it into a MySQL database. It has an incredibly clean and easy to use CGI frontend and a perl-wrapper to program the analogue Linux VCR. It only would need a port of this wrapper to the VDR system to incooperate it.
There are at least three other such projects of which I forgot the name, however.
You don't even need a video card. What you need is the TV card(s) themselve(s), one is enough, two and more allow for timeshifting of one or two channels. They are not cheap, however, not as cheap as the analog cards. Each such card has its own TV-Out. Mine has TV-Out, Stereo+Surround RCA out and an additional mini jack out for audio. Control of the VDR can be done over the net by using the SVDRP protocol (Simple VDR Protocol) or by telnetting into your VDR box.
I haven't used a Zaurus myself, yet, but I intend to buy one. I will buy it mostly due to its hardware specs.
Looking at screnshots of the Qtopia Desktop I believe that it sucks big time and is not what a PDA desktop should be designed. I like Palms desktop and the PSIONs (IMO the best).
But I want Linux since it allows me to to a lot of things with my homenetwork from the road. And the hardware seems just right.
So much about my opinion on the Zaurus.
Now, to reply to your comment: The review was awfull ! The reviewer only had a superficial look (in his review at least). No in-depth review, just scratching the surface. Even for a non-techie audience, this was just opinion/rant, NOT a review.
Linux - completely new !?
I wonder how many applications are being hosted alone on Freshmeat and SourceForge !?
Ok, it won't be that simple, there will be a need to adopt some lines of code in the sources to the different environment. But QTopia has a major advantage: QT supports it in their IDE (if I remember correctly) and porting QT/KDE applications (about 30% of all Linux software, I'd say) won't be too difficult.
Having said this and tested several PDA (Palm, WindowsCE/PocketPC, GEOS (on Nokia Communicator), PSION MX5 (what was it called, SymbiOS or so ?!)) I have not come across any GUI/PDA-desktop more intuitive and comfortalbe than the PSION MX5 one. Open it, go ahead, no RTFM needed.
Reading about the efforts to replace/enhance the Zaurus ROM I am pretty sure, the community will replace all that is not good enough. Of course, this won't help Joe Consumer, but at least for those, who are a bit technical, we will see a rush of good apps, I am pretty sure. Hey, it's Linux after all, all specs and docs are available.
That is right.
And opposing to this proposal from SUN it already exists ! Full binary compatible video games, running on the AmigaDE (which is more of a "virtual computer" than a "virtual machine". Plans are to make this a stand-alone OS, binary independant, coming with complete HAL and a virtual CPU concept. (Similare to Transmetas "translation" layer between the CPU and the Software, but this is CPU independant and offers much more (API and driver wise)
"AmigaAnywhere" (aka: "AmigaDE") runs currently hosted on Linux, Windows and WindowsCE.NET utilizing many diffeent CPUs and hardware, such as desktops, PDA and cell-phones (did not see the latter but ithasbeen planned/announced).This is a product in its early stages however and one has to see where it goes. But it is not only a gaming-engine. It is to become a real, completely hardware independant "instant OS / instant computer".
Before I lead to confusion: This product is "not there yet" but it is part of the final plan.
The AmigaDE is a "virtual computer" and thus AmigaDE applications run anywhere. They are binary compatible to all devices the DE engine runs on. Some say: "This is like Java." But it is not. Java is a runtime-environment (in this case) but
the AmigaDE is a fully virtual computer, coming with its own CPU.
What does this mean, especially in referral to your question ?
It means, that all your beloved applications run everywhere. This way you need to carry a disk only, on which you have installed your favourite applications, databases etc. and as soon you find yourself using other hardware the DE runs on, you just slide in your disk and the "virtual computer" deflates. You use the same machine as the one at home, the DE does scale down and adapts to the hardware it is running on, be it a desktop, a PDA, a notebook or a special terminal at the airport (well, I said its not there yet ;-)).
While this does not mean that you access a central server remotely over a network (your question), this way you take your "central" machine away with you on a ZIP/JAZ disk (or so).
This is all very interesting and exciting stuff.
However, Amiga Inc. have not yet shown, who and what they are, and this makes me raise an eyebrow and concerned if we will see the DE ever going so far, to utilize its full potential.
This is such (theoretical at least) a revolution, that it will need time to absorb and get accustomed to. And the market plays an important role as well, sigh.
At the moment the AmigaDE is nothing more than a system running on (I am naming the most important platfomrs only) Windows, WindowsCE.NET, Linux (RedHat offer(ed?)s the SDK on their web-page (once?)) and others, mainly to play games on PDAs.
See here or here (list of mirrors) for a video [mpeg, 85MB] (or DivX v5, 13MB) where it gets demonstrated.
As far as I remember the first press release a few days back the price was targeted at USD 600 excluding taxes....but with G3 "onboard"
But apart from that: You can bet every Amiga user would rather support Amiga than an Apple Mac. And I guess, if you'd ever used an Amiga seriously (i.e everyday's work, applications, internet) you would not even think for a second like this.
Besides: Amiga users never supported any Mac hardware sales, they ran MacOS7-8 on top of AmigaOS ;-))
Replying to myself, doh ! ;-)
I just checked out the press-release. It is definatly with the embedded market in view:
The G3/G4, Power4 etc. belong to the PowerPC (PPC) family of CPUs. Of course, we all know this.
However, few participating in the discussion seem to acknowledge, that there is more systems running PPC than Apple's Macs.
PPC is important in the embedded market. It has a high performance, stays relatively cool There are 'computers on a card' (a PCI card with a G3/G4 on it plus memory). They communicate over TCP/IP (or proprietary protocols) over the PCI bus with the host system. Nice if you want to have a mini cluster, a physical firewall, or whatever...
Then we have several (Micro)ATX mobos, some even for dual G4 (SMP). They get used mostly in the industry, however, this year will see two new home/office-desktop G3/G4 systems that have nothing in common with Apple. See here:
So it is obvious that RedHat, being focussed more on industry/server markets than on hte Desktop (that is their current goal as far as I am informed) has some interest in supporting PPC development. Altivec is a very good instruction set and having optimizations for it will be a great benefit. Altivec is not only for MultiMedia, btw. !
Theoretically, all these systems could run LinuxPPC !
Personally I am happy to see some major resource supporting the PowerPC since I would prefer a PPC machine far more than the archaical, outlived, patched & hacked i86 platform (can you use all your PCI slots without clashes...? I can't and my MoBo is from April last year...) Also the PPCs keep quite cool, meaning one could live without an active fan, unlike the Athlon hair-driers...;-)
For the enhusiasts: There are at least two other desktop (!) OS in the works, which are PPC native and come with SMP support: MorphOS (in the works since three years or more) and AmigaOS4.x
(Yes, I know...)
Right, your answers are KDE-centric. My rant was about "common standards". I know all you write about KDE but you completely missed my point.
Yes I know DCOP. And I like it. However, DCOP != Bonobo. I was talking about a "common base"
Also of these things I am aware. But where in these dialogs can I match files against certain rules ? As a user I need to know where to find my 'magic' file and how to edit it. I have seens implementations of exactly what we are talking about aroun 1994 on another system. And it was very easy to use and comfortable for the casual user
Again, I already mentioned this in my post earlier...Did you read it ? I know of these. And I explicitely was not talking "environment centric"...
KPARTS are very nice indeed and match my many whishes I have. But I was not talking about programmers. I was talking (read my post again) about "users/powerusers". Where in any of these applications do I have a Configuration->Edit Menu dialog ? Something where I can set any and all commands a menu should execute. (For an example: In an editor I would assign LOAD_FILE to a File->Open Menu-Entry (as a user !). Or assign CRSR_UP to the corresponding key. Or MARK_BLOCK_VERTICAL to a MOUSE_MID_BUTTON event...That was what I meant. Again, as a user. It might happen, but we are not there yet.
No, it is not interesting, that I said this, because I was stating, that KMail is just one of these applications I use. Neither Opera shares the same addressbook with KDE nor does Evolution. It is possible to import/export, but I dream more of some LDAP like repository for such stuff, being default in both enivronments.
And this is exactly what I am against ! And the fact we find this does not mean it is good. Especially not in an open environemnt, such as Open Source. Exactly this needs to be addressed. And even industry tries to make it better. However, they have still fears in loosing money, once they get fully interchangable.
No, quick and easy development happens on the programming level. If Linux wants to make it to the coorporate and home desktop, apart from geekism, we need all these things KDE and Gnome has, plus many of the things me and others want on the user level. Easily accessible for them. The OS I come from exactly does half of the stuff I wanted: It has fully scriptable applications (which led to masses of enhancing scripts being published by users who learned an easy to use scripting language) and it also, based on this power, fully (and I mean fully) configurable applications (though, they are in a minority)
I have the feeling your only point in reply is to praise KDE, since you absolutely did not follow the logic in my post (I hope there was some, lol ;-))
I agree with you in every single point about the benefits of KDE. Each of your points was a point why I use it...BUt my previous comment was about "Globalization" not about clever national infrastructure, if I may say so.
To sum my rantings up: I am well aware, that as a developer I have powerful environments at my fingertips. But one of the major steps Linux wants to do is getting on normal user's desktops. None of the things you mentioned here are accessible in an easy fashion and environment-independantly for the user in a way I was resorting to in my previous post. Only time will tell...