I bet anonymous is Apple......they copy and take your money for fakes and now going after others and threatening them! Sounds like Apple to me!
I bet anonymous is Oracle......they copy and take your money for fakes and now going after others and threatening them! Sounds like Oracle to me!
I bet anonymous is Microsoft......they copy and take your money for fakes and now going after others and threatening them! Sounds like Microsoft to me!
Oh you were trying to stain that particular Corp, carry on.
Duh, It's made of diamond[1] you only have to show it to a women and you will lose it./sexist
[1]Thats my wild guess, the disk is made of several layers of diamond nano particles, ala CPU diffusion technologies, I have tough about it before but will be nice to get more details, this and the "moving heatsink" are probably the coolest hardware news I remember from/. pretty scarce nowadays. Do we have to get an almost-meltdown in global economy to get good stories?
Stop trying to plant common sense and facts in our IBM bashing
Thats why you get moded 0! Now to make things even let me say one thing "IBM helped the nazis" there.. now everything is normal again, just like we want it.
By using it, aren't you opening yourself up to being charged for other people's shit?
No, only using it will not allow any other Tor dweller to use you IP/connection as an exit node, You have to explicitly set up and start the "Relaying" service which is not on by default (at least in Tor browser bundle)
I know I use Tor to access websites (lets leave it in forums that don't like non-white people) that block my IP range and my country have pretty good CP monitors, I've never had problems, I don't trust Tor to do anything stupid anyway so I don't get click-happy while using it. But then again I actually have paranoid traits so it's probably just my imagination.:P
Different to the shepple that buy OCZ or Corsair how?. AFAIK they don't have fabs either. Being the exeption Patriot and Kingston.
I guess AMD user^n^n^sheeple it's the bunch more focused in bang for the buck, If AMD can't deliver good specs for a decent price people (AMD fanboys?) will not buy it. Kingston is good in that regard. If you're not in the "I can't have slow computor or people will realize my ineptitude" market the choices are suddenly huge.
Nah I don't use ad hominen attacks since I find my way around better with sarcasm YMMV.
And those 13 year olds have worst thing in their futures when they wake up from the hangover and realize we all the grown ups ate the whole cake and now they can't even have it.
So being a fan of Justin Bieber is no worse that to be ignorant of how the world they are enjoying is falling apart one bail out at the time. Not that they can do shit anyway, probably just whine in Xbox Live?
Real artists work outside the system, they have been doing it for ages, a real artist is going for the art to innovate the art not for the money so the problem I guess the general definition of the word "Artist" got fucked up somewhere in the 70's.
I can't do music at all but if I could, I would share it via torrent and receive donations If I want, or "buy my new song for $1 or $5 and get autographed hard copy, don't have money? Invite me a beer or a joint and lets get along". Lots of real artists are doing that, of course "you probably never heard of them" but they are not attention whores either, they are people that actually study and do some useful work for society outside musical world, not the person (whose images gets used to promote a entirely computer creation) that you think it's worth the tittle Artist.
That something being NESARA.
Jesus please next time start you babbling with that magic words first so we know we don't need to read further. FYI NESARA is a canonical example in Social Marketing 101. Not that I'm against what NESARA would do, but it's a scam Jim. I mean, that shit started like in 1996? 10+ years and suckers keep coming and pumping money on "the scam that is always new" thanks to little spin in the actual news so EVERYTHING that happens anywhere it's a consequence to those good White Knights doings, just cute. Hows that gold doing dude? Sure it's growing, but not in your hands
And all this just for the sake of the likes of Justin Bieber and Shakira and Hollywood so they can profit for the crap they do.
If you want to fight censorship you have to go directly to your " "artists" " and ask them why they work for a MAFIAA thats trying to fuck our internet. An active, longlasting and noisy boycott targetted to the "artist" him/herself is all You need.
But no! lets all fiddle with proxies and Tor so we can have our tunez and have the mental-fap that we 0wned the censorz and we can has "teh 1337est freedom"
Engineers think in solutions for engineers.. this is a problem that have root in society and how they consume media. Here we have 8 solutions the don't solve the inherent problem that is: Media industry have failed (You know it, they know it) and it's going down fucking everything in the way, because they can.
They are testing the waters and those 8 "solutions" are what they want to see, not the general public realization of the absurdity this is.
In my example, because it's the first thing that came to my head, I'd say the company just want the users to stick to the Chrome OS for their work and everything else it's blocked. They can't download work to USBs or mail it anywhere than a fixed recipient list.
And sure you can buy lots of cheap laptops and shove ChromeOS in them but I think (irdk) that would void the warranty and no sane company would buy 100s of new computers to lose warranty in the next week. You point makes sense anyway, I would not buy it for that single reason (I'm more o less driven for the bang/buck ratio) is not cheaper than average cheap laptop if we were talking about a single candid geek purchasing a single laptop but I guess the whole thing is aimed to corporations: say mass discount in hardware and account costs, I really don't even know if Google have mass licensing options like MS.
And I also agree with you on the point that a limited open source OS laptop should have a smaller price compared to similar espec full featured Win laptop, Since that is outside Google control AFAIK maybe it's OEMs milking out the novelty and nothing more.
Probably Google just planned and actually started to develop something without doing a market research, everybody knows that you just have to have a blowjob in the morning to get to the office and say "hey, lets do an operating system thats in the cloudz trololololol" and everyone is "yay let's do it! for the lulz" and then it's magically delivered inside a custom laptop thanks to pounds of unicorn dust stolen from Cupertino./s
In all seriousness: Let's say We have a translation team which need to access a webapp to manage and translate stuff and it sucks because it's a poorly build and expensive licensed webapp -IE6 only shit level- that usually fails on the ultra secure WinXP... So What do we do? Oh right migrate to have Google docs accounts and the team can now work in groups if they need to. Calendar and communications integrated in the google accounts fixed and managed w/out a CS PhD IT Preventor in the way.
Why would they need a full laptop with Windows or OS X or Linux? Really? Is not hard to find lots of workflows that don't need anything else than a webbrowser, docs and IM.
ChromeOS is probably the most underrated Google project because is the only thing that can ACTUALLY bite Microsoft in the butchecks. Hope they don't let it die.
Well actually WIFI and good old copper are good, In third wory^y^y^y^Developing Nations theres usually more cellphones than fixed lines. More and more people are realizing that all they need is an smartphone since everything they do is twitbook and push email and docs. Tablets are a huge boom too.
Guess if google co-brands smarthphones in really really poor countries it can be nice, the possibilities that such thing brings EASILY null the tracking and advertising, think of it like an interactive TV, only cheaper and more useful. People forget targetized advertising can fuel local non-formalized markets, since everybody knows Advertising is teh evilz.
So yes, the iPad, iPod Touch, and iPhone are all in a single market.
Sure, It's called "Consumer electronics" on par with knockoff Chinese shuffles, Taiwan tablets, and truck load of "things with buttons and chips that do stuff" not intended for commercial or industrial use.
Thats more or less how it works, Apple products themselves are not a market, they have a common target and coherent interoperability. Of course if you think only the Apple products are worth your money then all those products are a "market" for you and everyone that shares your perception, but thats a niche, not a market.
I agree with you on the HDMI since theres not a lot of TV or monitors with that available in developing nations where this device would be actually useful. I'd say (taking numbers our of my ass) that the share of conventional ctr/hdmi TVs is 60/40. BUT, it does have composite video out.
So - I'm just stating my personal opinion of the device. I could never foresee any desire to connect it to a TV and use it as a desktop. I could see a HUGE opportunity for a tiny, $25, "full" Linux machine (none of this flakey uCLinux crap), in an embedded space.
Try plug computers/servers from sheeva and marvell, they have more grunt and additional things like WIFI and BT, even homeautomation interfaces.
After reading bits of www.raspberrypi.org I found that the focus is in education of computer science, it has support for C and Python.
It's funny since the FAQ from that page would null 80% of the missunderstandings in this whole discussion.
When will the device be available to purchase? We anticipate the device will be available to the general public later in 2011.
How do I connect a mouse and keyboard? Mice, keyboards, network adapters and external storage connect via a USB hub
Does the device support networking? The Model B version of the device includes 10/100 wired Ethernet. Wi-Fi will be available via a standard USB dongle.
What are the power requirements? The device is powered by an external AC adapter, and consumes around 1W at full load.
Will there be a buy-one-give-one program? Yes. We plan to implement a program of this sort.
Will the device be available internationally, or just in the UK? We intend to ship worldwide from launch. We may establish a distribution network in due course.
Will there be a minimum order quantity? The minimum order quantity will be one unit.
Are you accepting pre-orders? No. We are adequately funded, and don’t want to take your money until we have finished hardware.
---------- Provisional SPEC --------------
Provisional specification
700MHz ARM11 128MB or 256MB of SDRAM OpenGL ES 2.0 1080p30 H.264 high-profile decode Composite and HDMI video output USB 2.0 SD/MMC/SDIO memory card slot General-purpose I/O Optional integrated 2-port USB hub and 10/100 Ethernet controller Open software (Ubuntu, Iceweasel, KOffice, Python)
I will always wonder if the submissions on/. are intentionally poor because otherwise, nobody will discuss anything. Lets call it SOURCE!BAIT
but when you start wanting to put some heavy-duty services on them, they fall short
Sure, it's a $25 PC.. you want a $25 PC to do everything a cheap smarthphone can do? Probably you can develop one device under $25 that can do all you want and drown in money. Try taking the device and the specs and figure out WHAT YOU CAN DO WITH IT, instead of complaining because is not what you need, needs that probably you have already sorted out with something else which is *gasp* actually designed for what you want/need.
Seems like it could run a Quake2 server, a simple Proxi (traffic sniffer) or an Educational Platform (wamp moodle) w/out problems. Oh oh I can do a lot of things and profit the shit out of that device, but I'm from marketing so what do I know.
Aww, I have better things to do but I just can let pass this opportunity
Open Surface it's a means and the end itself, to bring developers developers developers the joy and magical tools that allow for easy integration of polisynergistic code with the flick of a finger .
Right from your non thrown chair, You can take your open source code and rub it to the installation dvd of Windows 8 and it magically interfaces extending its functionality, embracing it's capabilities and extinguishing old grievances that used to populate the relationship between open source developers and real developers developers developers.
We welcome anyone to try this chair-blasting experience and together create a new world of Open Source Surfaces with You, my Open Source developer, bending over a table of perfectly interfaced and monetizable software.
Signed Steve Ballmer (I was in marketing before getting the promotion, remember?)
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I bet anonymous is Apple......they copy and take your money for fakes and now going after others and threatening them! Sounds like Apple to me!
I bet anonymous is Oracle......they copy and take your money for fakes and now going after others and threatening them! Sounds like Oracle to me!
I bet anonymous is Microsoft......they copy and take your money for fakes and now going after others and threatening them! Sounds like Microsoft to me!
Oh you were trying to stain that particular Corp, carry on.
The gold account is for newfags. Diamond is where it's at.
Diamonds fags can't triforce
^ ^ triforce ^ ^
Unicode challenged /. is challenged
"Came for the news, stayed for the anons"
He'll be here all night, In fact he never leaves.
Duh, It's made of diamond[1] you only have to show it to a women and you will lose it. /sexist
[1]Thats my wild guess, the disk is made of several layers of diamond nano particles, ala CPU diffusion technologies, I have tough about it before but will be nice to get more details, this and the "moving heatsink" are probably the coolest hardware news I remember from /. pretty scarce nowadays. Do we have to get an almost-meltdown in global economy to get good stories?
This RIG is not for bitcoin mining this is for natural language wiretapping and crypto cracking *rolleyes*
Stop trying to plant common sense and facts in our IBM bashing
Thats why you get moded 0! Now to make things even let me say one thing "IBM helped the nazis" there .. now everything is normal again, just like we want it.
By using it, aren't you opening yourself up to being charged for other people's shit?
No, only using it will not allow any other Tor dweller to use you IP/connection as an exit node, You have to explicitly set up and start the "Relaying" service which is not on by default (at least in Tor browser bundle)
I know I use Tor to access websites (lets leave it in forums that don't like non-white people) that block my IP range and my country have pretty good CP monitors, I've never had problems, I don't trust Tor to do anything stupid anyway so I don't get click-happy while using it. But then again I actually have paranoid traits so it's probably just my imagination. :P
But then how Apple and Facebook shills would do their work? They need to eat too, you know.
Different to the shepple that buy OCZ or Corsair how?. AFAIK they don't have fabs either. Being the exeption Patriot and Kingston.
I guess AMD user^n^n^sheeple it's the bunch more focused in bang for the buck, If AMD can't deliver good specs for a decent price people (AMD fanboys?) will not buy it. Kingston is good in that regard. If you're not in the "I can't have slow computor or people will realize my ineptitude" market the choices are suddenly huge.
Nah I don't use ad hominen attacks since I find my way around better with sarcasm YMMV.
And those 13 year olds have worst thing in their futures when they wake up from the hangover and realize we all the grown ups ate the whole cake and now they can't even have it.
So being a fan of Justin Bieber is no worse that to be ignorant of how the world they are enjoying is falling apart one bail out at the time. Not that they can do shit anyway, probably just whine in Xbox Live?
Real artists work outside the system, they have been doing it for ages, a real artist is going for the art to innovate the art not for the money so the problem I guess the general definition of the word "Artist" got fucked up somewhere in the 70's.
I can't do music at all but if I could, I would share it via torrent and receive donations If I want, or "buy my new song for $1 or $5 and get autographed hard copy, don't have money? Invite me a beer or a joint and lets get along". Lots of real artists are doing that, of course "you probably never heard of them" but they are not attention whores either, they are people that actually study and do some useful work for society outside musical world, not the person (whose images gets used to promote a entirely computer creation) that you think it's worth the tittle Artist.
That something being NESARA.
Jesus please next time start you babbling with that magic words first so we know we don't need to read further. FYI NESARA is a canonical example in Social Marketing 101. Not that I'm against what NESARA would do, but it's a scam Jim. I mean, that shit started like in 1996? 10+ years and suckers keep coming and pumping money on "the scam that is always new" thanks to little spin in the actual news so EVERYTHING that happens anywhere it's a consequence to those good White Knights doings, just cute. Hows that gold doing dude? Sure it's growing, but not in your hands
Like theres shortage of script kiddies. You just have to KNOW how to bait Anon.
And all this just for the sake of the likes of Justin Bieber and Shakira and Hollywood so they can profit for the crap they do.
If you want to fight censorship you have to go directly to your " "artists" " and ask them why they work for a MAFIAA thats trying to fuck our internet. An active, longlasting and noisy boycott targetted to the "artist" him/herself is all You need.
But no! lets all fiddle with proxies and Tor so we can have our tunez and have the mental-fap that we 0wned the censorz and we can has "teh 1337est freedom"
Engineers think in solutions for engineers.. this is a problem that have root in society and how they consume media. Here we have 8 solutions the don't solve the inherent problem that is: Media industry have failed (You know it, they know it) and it's going down fucking everything in the way, because they can.
They are testing the waters and those 8 "solutions" are what they want to see, not the general public realization of the absurdity this is.
In my example, because it's the first thing that came to my head, I'd say the company just want the users to stick to the Chrome OS for their work and everything else it's blocked. They can't download work to USBs or mail it anywhere than a fixed recipient list.
And sure you can buy lots of cheap laptops and shove ChromeOS in them but I think (irdk) that would void the warranty and no sane company would buy 100s of new computers to lose warranty in the next week. You point makes sense anyway, I would not buy it for that single reason (I'm more o less driven for the bang/buck ratio) is not cheaper than average cheap laptop if we were talking about a single candid geek purchasing a single laptop but I guess the whole thing is aimed to corporations: say mass discount in hardware and account costs, I really don't even know if Google have mass licensing options like MS.
And I also agree with you on the point that a limited open source OS laptop should have a smaller price compared to similar espec full featured Win laptop, Since that is outside Google control AFAIK maybe it's OEMs milking out the novelty and nothing more.
Probably Google just planned and actually started to develop something without doing a market research, everybody knows that you just have to have a blowjob in the morning to get to the office and say "hey, lets do an operating system thats in the cloudz trololololol" and everyone is "yay let's do it! for the lulz" and then it's magically delivered inside a custom laptop thanks to pounds of unicorn dust stolen from Cupertino. /s
In all seriousness: Let's say We have a translation team which need to access a webapp to manage and translate stuff and it sucks because it's a poorly build and expensive licensed webapp -IE6 only shit level- that usually fails on the ultra secure WinXP... So What do we do? Oh right migrate to have Google docs accounts and the team can now work in groups if they need to. Calendar and communications integrated in the google accounts fixed and managed w/out a CS PhD IT Preventor in the way.
Why would they need a full laptop with Windows or OS X or Linux? Really? Is not hard to find lots of workflows that don't need anything else than a webbrowser, docs and IM.
ChromeOS is probably the most underrated Google project because is the only thing that can ACTUALLY bite Microsoft in the butchecks. Hope they don't let it die.
Well actually WIFI and good old copper are good, In third wory^y^y^y^Developing Nations theres usually more cellphones than fixed lines. More and more people are realizing that all they need is an smartphone since everything they do is twitbook and push email and docs. Tablets are a huge boom too.
Guess if google co-brands smarthphones in really really poor countries it can be nice, the possibilities that such thing brings EASILY null the tracking and advertising, think of it like an interactive TV, only cheaper and more useful. People forget targetized advertising can fuel local non-formalized markets, since everybody knows Advertising is teh evilz.
Surely not politicians! Is not like you have a president that represents a minority.. oh wait.
So yes, the iPad, iPod Touch, and iPhone are all in a single market.
Sure, It's called "Consumer electronics" on par with knockoff Chinese shuffles, Taiwan tablets, and truck load of "things with buttons and chips that do stuff" not intended for commercial or industrial use.
Market -> Consumer electronics
- Category -> Media consumption
-- Segment -> MIDs
--- Products -> iPad / Xoom / Playbook / no-name-mid
Market -> Consumer electronics
- Category -> Communication
-- Segment -> Smartphones
--- Products -> iPhone / Galaxy / Nexus / no-name-phon
Thats more or less how it works, Apple products themselves are not a market, they have a common target and coherent interoperability. Of course if you think only the Apple products are worth your money then all those products are a "market" for you and everyone that shares your perception, but thats a niche, not a market.
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Don't mention bandwidth, you can do neat things in CSS and JS alone w/out starting to serve bitmaps. If only SVG would be taken seriously.
Because everybody knows smarthphones are a priority in third world nations and it's wooping full coverage WIFI/4G internet connectivity.
I agree with you on the HDMI since theres not a lot of TV or monitors with that available in developing nations where this device would be actually useful. I'd say (taking numbers our of my ass) that the share of conventional ctr/hdmi TVs is 60/40. BUT, it does have composite video out.
So - I'm just stating my personal opinion of the device. I could never foresee any desire to connect it to a TV and use it as a desktop. I could see a HUGE opportunity for a tiny, $25, "full" Linux machine (none of this flakey uCLinux crap), in an embedded space.
Try plug computers/servers from sheeva and marvell, they have more grunt and additional things like WIFI and BT, even homeautomation interfaces.
After reading bits of www.raspberrypi.org I found that the focus is in education of computer science, it has support for C and Python.
It's funny since the FAQ from that page would null 80% of the missunderstandings in this whole discussion.
When will the device be available to purchase?
We anticipate the device will be available to the general public later in 2011.
How do I connect a mouse and keyboard?
Mice, keyboards, network adapters and external storage connect via a USB hub
Does the device support networking?
The Model B version of the device includes 10/100 wired Ethernet. Wi-Fi will be available via a standard USB dongle.
What are the power requirements?
The device is powered by an external AC adapter, and consumes around 1W at full load.
Will there be a buy-one-give-one program?
Yes. We plan to implement a program of this sort.
Will the device be available internationally, or just in the UK?
We intend to ship worldwide from launch. We may establish a distribution network in due course.
Will there be a minimum order quantity?
The minimum order quantity will be one unit.
Are you accepting pre-orders?
No. We are adequately funded, and don’t want to take your money until we have finished hardware.
---------- Provisional SPEC --------------
Provisional specification
700MHz ARM11
128MB or 256MB of SDRAM
OpenGL ES 2.0
1080p30 H.264 high-profile decode
Composite and HDMI video output
USB 2.0
SD/MMC/SDIO memory card slot
General-purpose I/O
Optional integrated 2-port USB hub and 10/100 Ethernet controller
Open software (Ubuntu, Iceweasel, KOffice, Python)
I will always wonder if the submissions on /. are intentionally poor because otherwise, nobody will discuss anything. Lets call it SOURCE!BAIT
but when you start wanting to put some heavy-duty services on them, they fall short
Sure, it's a $25 PC.. you want a $25 PC to do everything a cheap smarthphone can do? Probably you can develop one device under $25 that can do all you want and drown in money. Try taking the device and the specs and figure out WHAT YOU CAN DO WITH IT, instead of complaining because is not what you need, needs that probably you have already sorted out with something else which is *gasp* actually designed for what you want/need.
Seems like it could run a Quake2 server, a simple Proxi (traffic sniffer) or an Educational Platform (wamp moodle) w/out problems. Oh oh I can do a lot of things and profit the shit out of that device, but I'm from marketing so what do I know.
Or you can go the Apple route and deliver it for $100 with the same specs but double the magic. Who needs specs when you have magic!
But does it have the space to store my intertubes?
Seriously, I remember the original post and the debate over wifi connectivity.
Aww, I have better things to do but I just can let pass this opportunity
Open Surface it's a means and the end itself, to bring developers developers developers the joy and magical tools that allow for easy integration of polisynergistic code with the flick of a finger .
Right from your non thrown chair, You can take your open source code and rub it to the installation dvd of Windows 8 and it magically interfaces extending its functionality, embracing it's capabilities and extinguishing old grievances that used to populate the relationship between open source developers and real developers developers developers.
We welcome anyone to try this chair-blasting experience and together create a new world of Open Source Surfaces with You, my Open Source developer, bending over a table of perfectly interfaced and monetizable software.
Signed
Steve Ballmer
(I was in marketing before getting the promotion, remember?)
Yay marketing! Trolling the world for profit since the 30's. ©