Intel will thus be able to realize an old * company dream ** - the development of a computer enabling users to be connected, any time and any place, to the Internet. ***
*by "old," we mean last quarter.
**by "dream," we mean product.
***by "Internet," we mean AOL/TW Extra-Fun Super-Happy content network.
Knowing how quickly our elected representatives recognise and take advantage of new technologies, how long before we get campaign ads as pop-under and flash ads, or spam?
The 2084 Presidential Election. At the earliest. Hell, Strom Thurmond's still trying to figure out the telegraph.
Because it supports my godawfully cheap Deskjet, which Mac OS X won't touch. I've been trying to set up a print server rather than dole out the cash for an unnecessary printer upgrade.
Gee, I don't know how anyone can say that. Between the consistent user interface, the ease of setting up printing, and the huge game library, Linux is a cinch to take over the desktop computers of the world.
*crickets*
--saint
(I'm just bitter -- still trying to set up CUPS.)
Example: Most supermarkets in my area now give
discounts only to holders of their courtesy cards,
rather than by using coupons. For awhile the
clerk would use their card if you didn't have
yours but they've stopped doing that now.
They really want to collect that personal
marketing data on you.
So trade cards with your friends. Better yet, get several linked to the same account and hand them out to people with different shopping tastes.
Myself, my girlfriend, and her parents all have the same Bonus Card account - I'd love to see any useful data come out of that compilation.
I can sit through any sit com and tell you specific moral/ethical objectives male/female societal roles, etc. etc. they are programming people with. Or maybe, I'm really paranoid?
Or maybe you're just a self-important Freshman psychology major at the local community college.
in the preferences window, go to "privacy & security", select "cookies", click on "limit maximum lifetime of cookies to", and select "current session".
...and this is why it's easier to talk someone through using a CLI than a GUI. I'm so glad I'm not working in a call center any more.
To bring this back on topic, anyone know if this one compiles under OpenBSD? Or if that's ever going to be a supported platform? The only machines I run at home are Mac OS X and OpenBSD, and OmniWeb is fine for the former.
CPU speed isn't much of an issue. 633 MHz should be plenty.
Holy crap, I just _upgraded_ my main server to a PPro 200. What are you people doing on these machines?
(It's replacing a 486/66, and the only reason I got rid of that was to get a second IDE channel and some PCI slots instead of ISA. Otherwise, the 486 would have been fine.)
Say what you will about Linux... It may have its problems, but overall it is a far better OS model.
It's a painstaking clone of a design with thirty plus years of testing behind it. That's why.
I'm not saying that Microsoft's operating systems aren't total shite in a lot of ways, but the fact is that they are significantly more "innovative" (god I hate that word) in terms of design than any of the *nix-a-like gang.
--saint
(And no, I don't run Windows. Hell, I refuse to run IE. So shut your piehole if that's all you can say.)
For the most part, the media has also ignored the possibility of keeping people from destroying things by not making them want to.
Why were planes flown into the Pentagon and the Trade Center, for example, and not into targets in Ottawa and Toronto? Seems to me that answering that question would be much more helpful than assuming that things are targets and working from there.
The one problem i personally can see and have experienced is that you cant find that much information concerning Linux on PPC online. Sure, there are some devoted sites line LinuxPPC.org [linuxppc.org] and others, and groups.google.com [google.com] is always a nice thing, but if you run into *specific* problems (like me, see further down that post) youre in for some serious pain.
You think that's bad, try running Linux on an m68k machine. *shiver*
Wow, with the astonishingly closed hardware of the Old World Macs and the miniscule support base on the Internet, how could I lose!
I always wondered why the people hacking away at Linux/PPC don't just fork the code base. Honestly, it seems like Linus has little or no interest anyway in the other architectures, and it could easily result in a much better end product.
Dual monitors rock - I remember setting up a Power Mac 7100/80 like that back in the day. For the cost of one 17 inch monitor, I had 2 15 inchers doing extended desktop. Amazing how hard it is to go back to a single screen.
Two thousand dollars does seem a bit steep, though. I wonder what other sorts of features are included? Hell, I could get a freshly discontinued G4 and two Apple 15 inch studio displays for that, and Apple kit is generally a bit higher in price than this sort of thing.
The ability to use a CLI says something about your intelligence
That you're stubborn, stuck in a rut, and afraid to try out new things?
I really don't understand the whole CLI fetish in places like Slashdot. I use the CLI when necessary (admin work on *nix boxen) and the GUI when necessary (my main workstation is OS X).
Oh, and to the gibbering fucksticks with the mod points - it's generally considered "Flamebait" when I call into question the ideals of the Great Slashdot Hivemind, not a "Troll." Thanks.
Yeah, it's on all my production machines. I've got millions of dollars riding on it.
Of course not, you jackass. I know this is Slashdot, where untested hardware, piss poor drivers written in a drunken fury, and bleeding edge technology with no perceivable benefit are kewl, but I don't think even the sweaty fanboys in this place are dumb enough to put a 2.5.x kernel on anything important.
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wouldn't it be rather foolish to open one up in your basement or garage?
Of course. That's why the article says to do it in the bathroom, after showering.
--saint
Intel will thus be able to realize an old * company dream ** - the development of a computer enabling users to be connected, any time and any place, to the Internet. ***
*by "old," we mean last quarter.
**by "dream," we mean product.
***by "Internet," we mean AOL/TW Extra-Fun Super-Happy content network.
--saint
Knowing how quickly our elected representatives recognise and take advantage of new technologies, how long before we get campaign ads as pop-under and flash ads, or spam?
The 2084 Presidential Election. At the earliest. Hell, Strom Thurmond's still trying to figure out the telegraph.
--saint
What distro are you running?
OpenBSD.
And yes why CUPS?
Because it supports my godawfully cheap Deskjet, which Mac OS X won't touch. I've been trying to set up a print server rather than dole out the cash for an unnecessary printer upgrade.
But this is way outside the scope of this thread.
--saint
Linux won't rule the desktop
Gee, I don't know how anyone can say that. Between the consistent user interface, the ease of setting up printing, and the huge game library, Linux is a cinch to take over the desktop computers of the world.
*crickets*
--saint
(I'm just bitter -- still trying to set up CUPS.)
Example: Most supermarkets in my area now give
discounts only to holders of their courtesy cards,
rather than by using coupons. For awhile the
clerk would use their card if you didn't have
yours but they've stopped doing that now.
They really want to collect that personal
marketing data on you.
So trade cards with your friends. Better yet, get several linked to the same account and hand them out to people with different shopping tastes.
Myself, my girlfriend, and her parents all have the same Bonus Card account - I'd love to see any useful data come out of that compilation.
--saint
I can sit through any sit com and tell you specific moral/ethical objectives male/female societal roles, etc. etc. they are programming people with. Or maybe, I'm really paranoid?
Or maybe you're just a self-important Freshman psychology major at the local community college.
--saint
in the preferences window, go to "privacy & security", select "cookies", click on "limit maximum lifetime of cookies to", and select "current session".
...and this is why it's easier to talk someone through using a CLI than a GUI. I'm so glad I'm not working in a call center any more.
To bring this back on topic, anyone know if this one compiles under OpenBSD? Or if that's ever going to be a supported platform? The only machines I run at home are Mac OS X and OpenBSD, and OmniWeb is fine for the former.
--saint
CPU speed isn't much of an issue. 633 MHz should be plenty.
Holy crap, I just _upgraded_ my main server to a PPro 200. What are you people doing on these machines?
(It's replacing a 486/66, and the only reason I got rid of that was to get a second IDE channel and some PCI slots instead of ISA. Otherwise, the 486 would have been fine.)
--saint
Send in the trolls, one and all.
--saint
IANAT, but: Since when has a new issue of a magazine coming out been such big news that it deserves a story on slashdot
It's not exactly big news. It's not on the front page, just in the BSD section, Slashdot's version of page 12 below the fold.
--saint
the oustandingly attractive aqua theme.
Welcome to Lawsuit County, population: You.
--saint
Say what you will about Linux... It may have its problems, but overall it is a far better OS model.
It's a painstaking clone of a design with thirty plus years of testing behind it. That's why.
I'm not saying that Microsoft's operating systems aren't total shite in a lot of ways, but the fact is that they are significantly more "innovative" (god I hate that word) in terms of design than any of the *nix-a-like gang.
--saint
(And no, I don't run Windows. Hell, I refuse to run IE. So shut your piehole if that's all you can say.)
they've virtually ignored their combined effect.
For the most part, the media has also ignored the possibility of keeping people from destroying things by not making them want to.
Why were planes flown into the Pentagon and the Trade Center, for example, and not into targets in Ottawa and Toronto? Seems to me that answering that question would be much more helpful than assuming that things are targets and working from there.
--saint
The one problem i personally can see and have experienced is that you cant find that much information concerning Linux on PPC online. Sure, there are some devoted sites line LinuxPPC.org [linuxppc.org] and others, and groups.google.com [google.com] is always a nice thing, but if you run into *specific* problems (like me, see further down that post) youre in for some serious pain.
You think that's bad, try running Linux on an m68k machine. *shiver*
Wow, with the astonishingly closed hardware of the Old World Macs and the miniscule support base on the Internet, how could I lose!
--saint
I always wondered why the people hacking away at Linux/PPC don't just fork the code base. Honestly, it seems like Linus has little or no interest anyway in the other architectures, and it could easily result in a much better end product.
--saint
Two thousand dollars does seem a bit steep, though. I wonder what other sorts of features are included?
Oh, and before I'm told to RTFA, it's Slashdotted. Badly.
Though I'm sure the display on the server is right purty.
--saint
Dual monitors rock - I remember setting up a Power Mac 7100/80 like that back in the day. For the cost of one 17 inch monitor, I had 2 15 inchers doing extended desktop. Amazing how hard it is to go back to a single screen.
Two thousand dollars does seem a bit steep, though. I wonder what other sorts of features are included? Hell, I could get a freshly discontinued G4 and two Apple 15 inch studio displays for that, and Apple kit is generally a bit higher in price than this sort of thing.
--saint
Does this slideshow only work with IE?
Works fine in OmniWeb on OS X.
--saint
The ability to use a CLI says something about your intelligence
That you're stubborn, stuck in a rut, and afraid to try out new things?
I really don't understand the whole CLI fetish in places like Slashdot. I use the CLI when necessary (admin work on *nix boxen) and the GUI when necessary (my main workstation is OS X).
They're just different, neither is better.
--saint
Only Apple users think having the company hide as much as possible is a GOOD thing.
Well, them and Mandrake users.
--saint
How did such a thing get past the damn executives in charge?!
One suggestion for the Network Services group at one of my old jobs was Centralized Ubiquitous Network and Telephony Services.
--saint
Since the submitter works there and all...
Any chance of this getting ported to other architectures? I'd love to try it out, but my only Linux box (currently running Debian) is a m68k machine.
(Come to think of it, Debian is the _only_ native English m68k Linux distro. Possible market?)
--saint
Oh, and to the gibbering fucksticks with the mod points - it's generally considered "Flamebait" when I call into question the ideals of the Great Slashdot Hivemind, not a "Troll." Thanks.
--saint
Anyone using 2.5 for anything except testing?
Yeah, it's on all my production machines. I've got millions of dollars riding on it.
Of course not, you jackass. I know this is Slashdot, where untested hardware, piss poor drivers written in a drunken fury, and bleeding edge technology with no perceivable benefit are kewl, but I don't think even the sweaty fanboys in this place are dumb enough to put a 2.5.x kernel on anything important.
--saint