KDE kicks Aqua's ass as a GUI... tabbed Konsoles (with keystrokes for opening new tabs and switching between them)
I'm typing this from OS X. I think it's a hell of a system -- I've tried OpenBSD, Yellow Dog, and LinuxPPC on this iMac and OS X stomps the hell out of all of them. But that's not why I'm writing this.
Despite my non-programming background, I spend a lot of time at the command line playing around. And Terminal.App, the default OS X version of xterm, is absolutely fucking _dreadful_. Can anyone suggest a replacement?
Well, the Sourceforge mirrors didn't seem to work out. But hey, maybe ESR can sell off those VA Linux options and buy Linus a cheeseburger or something.
I think that may change in time as teachers are faced with paying licence charges to keep current or moving to open source. On the other hand, MS probably values the education sector enough to continue to cut a lot of slack.
Given the sort of Campus Agreements MS is willing to give, I find that unlikely. Sure, it costs the college I work for slightly less than my salary to handle all of the licensing for MS products. But it would take more than one entry-level employee to convert the entire campus to another platform.
My boss is continually reminding us that Lotus used to have really severe licensing like this, and look what happened to them. Sort of a Moses vibe to those rants, really.
One of my interns at work is a CS undergrad, and I think he's pretty typical of the breed. Talks about Linux all the time to be 'leet, but still gave me a resume done in Word on his pirated Win2K partition.
Schools are a tough nut to crack for OSS, because students have no moral qualms about piracy and a lot of professors demand closed file formats for assignments to be electronically filed.
My resume is ALWAYS handed to the employer in a nice folder.
Let me guess, you were that nimrod in high school who always padded the shit out of his papers but put them in a nice plastic dust jacket, weren't you?
People have already suggested _Hackers_ by Steven Lecy, and rightly so -- it's a hell of a read. His newer book, _Crypto_, is also quite good if your father has any sort of interest in cryptography or government supervision of the computer industry.
Oh, and _Fire in the Valley_ is supposed to be good, though I haven't read it myself.
I'm one of the Macintosh guys here at the college I work for, and the Windows group seems to be taking the same tack with XP that I am with OS X -- don't deploy it anywhere essential just yet.
Both operating systems will probably be installed on the "Internet Stations" and other non-critical student systems in the next few months just to test the reaction. But a full migration won't even be discussed until at least summertime, which means implemented at the beginning of 2003.
They have a link to "Research". I read one of the papers and it is pretty weak - basically it rants about Columbine for a while, draws a statistical correlation between violent people and the desire to play violent video games, and ASSUMES from there that the games cause violent behavior.
Does anyone really expect to be able to run the latest kernel on their 386/486 machines?
I run the latest NetBSD kernel on a 486. Doesn't seem to be a problem.
So far as I can tell, there's no new advances coming down the pike in VESA or ISA cards. It's not like there's huge drifts of new code that need to be written for my shitty old Dell.
Incidentally, I thought the big advantage of Linux was that it works on old hardware. At least, that's what the zealots keep telling me.
Something to keep in mind for this sort of data compilation is the use that the components are being put to. For example, the dreaded IBM Deskstar 75GXP drives that are dying by the dozens this year. I've got one in my iMac, and it's working fine. I don't know a single Mac user who is having a problem with this drive. On the other hand, a ton of them are dying in AMD and Intel systems.
Is it a heat thing? An OS thing? Damned if I know. But if you polled these two communities, you'd probably get vastly different results.
Do you really want a version of Office for Linux? Really?
Do you want any x86-based OS besides Windows to get a foothold in the office desktop space, you trolling bastard?
No Office, no PHBs following your Linux Pied Piper. It would be nice if everyone could get money from the "fucking around with Perl" aspect of computers, but that doesn't seem too feasible these days.
But then and again, I'm the one that thinks there should be a minimum IQ test to use a computer
Personally, I'm happy to have things like my cable modem and cheap hardware partially subsidized by idiots. If I were the only one on my cable node the speed would be nice, but the bill would be a wee bit higher.
I really don't want to go back to the $3000 entry level computer and metered ISDN being my only "high speed" option.
I seem to recall that Daemon News was supposed to start issuing a print version as well as the online version of their zine. Has anyone seen this in an actual store, or is it a subscribe through the web site only sort of thing?
Or more precisely, it does not make their definition right. Would it be OK if I started to referring to port-scanning in the popular vernacular as "killing people"? No, that would be a tremendous disservice to murder victims everywhere. It is the same with "piracy".
Yeah, calling copyright infringement "piracy" is really a disservice to all the sea captains I know. Please stop.
I'm running OpenBSD 3.0/macppc on my iMac, and can't get KDE to build from the ports collection. Is anyone else having this problem? I CVSed the 3.0 branch of ports, so I don't think it's some weird update issue.
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KDE kicks Aqua's ass as a GUI... tabbed Konsoles (with keystrokes for opening new tabs and switching between them)
I'm typing this from OS X. I think it's a hell of a system -- I've tried OpenBSD, Yellow Dog, and LinuxPPC on this iMac and OS X stomps the hell out of all of them. But that's not why I'm writing this.
Despite my non-programming background, I spend a lot of time at the command line playing around. And Terminal.App, the default OS X version of xterm, is absolutely fucking _dreadful_. Can anyone suggest a replacement?
--saint
Ah, perfect. Don't change the name; just slap on the Aqua interface and ship it. This is the legal equivalent of a honeypot.
--saint
one step closer to the dream.
...of sniffing all of my neighbor's traffic, rather than just that of the ones with enough money to buy their own access point.
Security seems it would be an issue with this sort of setup. Anyone know how he's handling it?
--saint
Well, the Sourceforge mirrors didn't seem to work out. But hey, maybe ESR can sell off those VA Linux options and buy Linus a cheeseburger or something.
Surprised at 29 cent burger day?
--saint
I think that may change in time as teachers are faced with paying licence charges to keep current or moving to open source. On the other hand, MS probably values the education sector enough to continue to cut a lot of slack.
Given the sort of Campus Agreements MS is willing to give, I find that unlikely. Sure, it costs the college I work for slightly less than my salary to handle all of the licensing for MS products. But it would take more than one entry-level employee to convert the entire campus to another platform.
My boss is continually reminding us that Lotus used to have really severe licensing like this, and look what happened to them. Sort of a Moses vibe to those rants, really.
--saint
One of my interns at work is a CS undergrad, and I think he's pretty typical of the breed. Talks about Linux all the time to be 'leet, but still gave me a resume done in Word on his pirated Win2K partition.
Schools are a tough nut to crack for OSS, because students have no moral qualms about piracy and a lot of professors demand closed file formats for assignments to be electronically filed.
--saint
Canada has done something neat.
Christ, how many dollars is the new coin worth this time?
--saint
My resume is ALWAYS handed to the employer in a nice folder.
Let me guess, you were that nimrod in high school who always padded the shit out of his papers but put them in a nice plastic dust jacket, weren't you?
--saint
People have already suggested _Hackers_ by Steven Lecy, and rightly so -- it's a hell of a read. His newer book, _Crypto_, is also quite good if your father has any sort of interest in cryptography or government supervision of the computer industry.
Oh, and _Fire in the Valley_ is supposed to be good, though I haven't read it myself.
--saint
My potential server room will be (If my mother agrees, of course)
Welcome to Slashdot.
Sigh.
--saint
Well, it's certainly a good thing that there are so many people looking at the source to produce a patch...
er....
Never mind.
--saint
I'm one of the Macintosh guys here at the college I work for, and the Windows group seems to be taking the same tack with XP that I am with OS X -- don't deploy it anywhere essential just yet.
Both operating systems will probably be installed on the "Internet Stations" and other non-critical student systems in the next few months just to test the reaction. But a full migration won't even be discussed until at least summertime, which means implemented at the beginning of 2003.
There's a lot of institutional inertia, you know?
--saint
Incidentally, this same thing works for OpenBSD. I was playing around with that on my own iMac for a little while.
--saint
which groups/members will be needing legal defense funds
"Uh, he didn't know it was copyrighted, your honor."
Seriously, what the fuck. How is some warez rat going to be better off with a non court appointed attorney?
--saint
They have a link to "Research". I read one of the papers and it is pretty weak - basically it rants about Columbine for a while, draws a statistical correlation between violent people and the desire to play violent video games, and ASSUMES from there that the games cause violent behavior.
Incoherent and Columbine based?
Hey, Taco, looks like Katz is moonlighting.
--saint
Does anyone really expect to be able to run the latest kernel on their 386/486 machines?
I run the latest NetBSD kernel on a 486. Doesn't seem to be a problem.
So far as I can tell, there's no new advances coming down the pike in VESA or ISA cards. It's not like there's huge drifts of new code that need to be written for my shitty old Dell.
Incidentally, I thought the big advantage of Linux was that it works on old hardware. At least, that's what the zealots keep telling me.
--saint
Something to keep in mind for this sort of data compilation is the use that the components are being put to. For example, the dreaded IBM Deskstar 75GXP drives that are dying by the dozens this year. I've got one in my iMac, and it's working fine. I don't know a single Mac user who is having a problem with this drive. On the other hand, a ton of them are dying in AMD and Intel systems.
Is it a heat thing? An OS thing? Damned if I know. But if you polled these two communities, you'd probably get vastly different results.
--saint
Do you really want a version of Office for Linux? Really?
Do you want any x86-based OS besides Windows to get a foothold in the office desktop space, you trolling bastard?
No Office, no PHBs following your Linux Pied Piper. It would be nice if everyone could get money from the "fucking around with Perl" aspect of computers, but that doesn't seem too feasible these days.
--saint
My 5200/75LC was the suckiest piece of suck ever created.
They're not always all that bad. Check out the HOWTO I wrote on making one useful.
--saint
But then and again, I'm the one that thinks there should be a minimum IQ test to use a computer
Personally, I'm happy to have things like my cable modem and cheap hardware partially subsidized by idiots. If I were the only one on my cable node the speed would be nice, but the bill would be a wee bit higher.
I really don't want to go back to the $3000 entry level computer and metered ISDN being my only "high speed" option.
--saint
Right. They'll announce it between the new Apple PDA and the Disney buyout.
And then Hitler will build a snowman.
--saint
'code and abusive'
Sounds like a great job description to me. Or at the very least, something I'd like on a t-shirt.
--saint
I seem to recall that Daemon News was supposed to start issuing a print version as well as the online version of their zine. Has anyone seen this in an actual store, or is it a subscribe through the web site only sort of thing?
--saint
Or more precisely, it does not make their definition right. Would it be OK if I started to referring to port-scanning in the popular vernacular as "killing people"? No, that would be a tremendous disservice to murder victims everywhere. It is the same with "piracy".
Yeah, calling copyright infringement "piracy" is really a disservice to all the sea captains I know. Please stop.
--saint
I'm running OpenBSD 3.0/macppc on my iMac, and can't get KDE to build from the ports collection. Is anyone else having this problem? I CVSed the 3.0 branch of ports, so I don't think it's some weird update issue.
--saint