The same annoucement, on corels site. Its a month old even. Oh well, we might need to somehow contact corel in a plesent a kind way and see if they understand the patent problems that graphon has created.
One of the questions involved what would happen if conservatives took over, and tried to stop the punishment of Microsoft. I just wanted to point out that all conservative capitolists that I know would love to see Microsoft appropriently punished. True capitolist do prefer the government to keep its hands off, but we also realize that since the government is already so involved, it has to fix things like this. It is generally thought that if government has absolutly no intervention in capitolist that problems like this won't even form. And when I say no intervention, I mean NO intervention, that included copywrite, patent, and contract recongition. If two people can't even expect a court to uphold their contracts, all capitolism would be done on a complete honor system, and such an entity as Microsoft could never form. The only problem, is we will never know if true capitolism would would or not, or if it could have even dealt with the modern problems of technology
He was in the process of a divorce. Maby its just me, but someone who has already started divorce procedings, I honestly could care less about who they have sex with. Oh and btw he's now married to that woman. Whoa... SO SCANDULUS!
And I still say John McCain.. HEHE so what your point (okok, so he was involved in the whole SL thing, but it wasn't his fault, and he was found "not guilty" -grin-)
Well sure, Microsoft can contribute to his campain however they want. But remember they have to compute the cost of the equipment, internet bandwidth used, and labor time, as campain contributions. Well looks like thats all the contributions your allowed Billy boy. Sorry!
HEHE Ok I did laugh, but I still have to swear, the thing about republicans being the opposors is just a bad rap they got (almost said we, but hey, I'm independent -chuckle-) I look at it too ways you can try to work for the good of society, or you can look like your working for the good of society, but its really hard to do both.
Unlike what the media may try to lead you to believe, up until the whole Bush quiz thing, I seriously doupt even Gore would have known those exact questions. Canidates honestly have better things to do than spend all their time memorizing facts, they will have plenty of time for that during the presidency. And from what I heard, thats one of the things a new President spends the first couple of months in office doing. Anyways the media loves trying to push their own agendas. If they want to just hurt Bush a little bit, either to get him to do something, or hurt his image, its really easy. I'm sure all slashdot readers remember (or have effectivly blocked) their public school days, think of the media as that big guy, who made a point of destroying your public image, and increase that potential a thousand fold.
While I dislike cops just as much as the next guy, the point is that by killing a cop you are not only trying to commit murdur, but in some way disrupt the abilities of the government to catch criminals. Its sorta for the same reason that I would be charged with treason if I killed the president. The point is that its not the cop who is more important than the cab driver, its the office of civil service that the cop holds is important. And the fact that you are probably trying to 1 resist arrest 2. make yourself the law 3. make less and less people want to become cops and help enforce the law 4. kill someone
CuteMX always gives me an error about the beta being too old and that I need to download a new one... which I can't do obviously.. how do I get around this?
Why don't you look at the ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla/nightly
And you will see that they work on a release till they get all the features they want in it. Start working on the next release, continue to fix bugs on the previous till they reach a point where they think they have all the new features fairly stable. Then they release it.
In Windows Netscape a profile is basically the same as the linux.rc files and associated user independent information. Windows doesn't really tell programs what user you are, nor does it have a home directory for storing program configurations for each user (it sorta does, but there is no standard for third party programs of where to put configurations) Anyways in netscape for windows, if you have multiple users, when you run it, it ask you what profile you want to use. (Basically who you are? sorta...) Anyways profiles are just specific configurations for each user, such as your email information and display settings for Netscape/Mozilla.
CuteMX keeps telling me that the beta is old and that I need to download the newest version.. of which is not available. hm this looks like a nice program too, guess we will have to wait till the napster suit is over before we might see it. Maby GlobalSCAPE has a motivation now to help napster win.! wouldn't that be fun!
No but see, they are passing laws that say you can't buy a trademarked name with the intent to sell. If he sold it would show intent.. DUH! While a good lawyer could help make sure he doesn't get himself in that sorta trouble.
Although Paul Allen, investor, also holds lots of MSFT stock, and thus would get hurt by this... Not too plausible..
Paul Allen is one of the smartest investors out there, it would be interesting to see just exactly how much he has invested. If anything I would watch him and see where his money goes in the next few months. Cause if Paul starts to pull his money out of Microsoft, you can bet there will be a following, which would hurt Microsoft badly. Who knows, maby Paul has a heart and doesn't want to hurt Mircosoft, and sees Transmeta as a way to hedge his losses:)
all that we are seeing is highly-predigested evaluations...
Your exactly right, I've almost lost my faith in the whole slashdot community over this whole thing. If you read the bill http://thomas.loc.gov search for h. 1572. You will read that all this bill does is set up a panel to investigate how to properly impliment digital signatures, and then to require the federal government to accept them within a year. (Only requiring feds to accept.. not private companies/citizens) And sets up another panel for giving recommendations on creating a private digital signature legal framework no later than a year from now. THATS IT!. the reason all the commotion is that the Democratic party decided that instead of waiting till the panel came with its conclusions and then trying to form law around that. That they needed to add an ammendment to this bill to force the later laws to be changed in certain ways. So they veto it.. not even knowning what the eventual law is going to be. Anyways I already posted a comment quoting parts from the bill explaining this. But was a few hours late to stop the spread of this horrific FUD implimented by the opposition to this bill, and the mass media.:(
If any one of these companies were to fall off of the face of the planet at the height of their power, I believe that there would be a severe econimic problem (for a while, anyway).
No way man, we would just pirate the hell outta it. If I can't buy it anymore... would it really be stealing to copy?
Text of the bill that deals with private transations (the rest of it deal with federal government accepting digital signatures, which is exactly the same wording.. read it for yourself anyways
SEC. 7. NATIONAL POLICY PANEL FOR DIGITAL SIGNATURES.
(a) ESTABLISHMENT- Not later than 90 days after the date of the enactment of this Act, the Under Secretary shall establish a National Policy Panel for Digital Signatures. The Panel shall be composed of government, academic, and industry technical and legal experts on the implementation of digital signature technologies, State officials, including officials from States which have enacted laws establishing digital signature infrastructures, and representative individuals from the interested public. (b) RESPONSIBILITIES- The Panel shall serve as a forum for exploring all relevant factors associated with the development of a national digital signature infrastructure based on uniform standards to enable the widespread availability and use of digital signature systems. The Panel shall develop-- (1) model practices and procedures for certification authorities to ensure the accuracy, reliability, and security of operations associated with issuing and managing digital certificates; (2) standards to ensure consistency among jurisdictions that license certification authorities; and (3) audit standards for certification authorities. (c) COORDINATION- The Panel shall coordinate its efforts with those of the Director under section 3. (d) ADMINISTRATIVE SUPPORT- The Under Secretary shall provide administrative support to enable the Panel to carry out its responsibilities. (e) REPORT- Not later than 1 year after the date of the enactment of this Act, the Under Secretary shall transmit to the Congress a report containing the recommendations of the Panel.
All this does it create a panel to investigate, and start their recommendations within a year. Sounds like the oppositions just sees that there is a potential for problems as desribes and whats to specifically made it illigal for those provisions to happen. But the whole thing isn't even formed yet!!
As you live in the Mac and not the Windows world, I can understand your not really being of light to the monopolistic policies of Microsoft. Let me give you an example you would understand. From the finding of fact paragraph 349. A few days after the exchange with Waldman, Gates informed those Microsoft executives most closely involved in the negotiations with Apple that the discussions "have not been going well at all." One of the several reasons for this, Gates wrote, was that "Apple let us down on the browser by making Netscape the standard install." Gates then reported that he had already called Apple's CEO (who at the time was Gil Amelio) to ask "how we should announce the cancellation of Mac Office . . .." Such actions are of obviously dirty handed, but perfectly legal accually. IF!!!! there is compitition in your market place. But having an monopoly, or even something close to a monopoly (I believe 45% is considered enough) causes a company to be under a different set of laws in which such things are purly illigal. For more things in the Mac side.. check out paragraph 104-110 in the finding of fact http://usvms.gpo.gov/ (yes the paragraphs are numbered so you don't have to count them)
Yes, but this more a fight between M$ and a the Department of Justice. While I have many problems with the DOJ, when it comes to interpretting the law and the Constituion, and how they apply to events and new laws. They generally do a pretty damn good job (a few notible exception aside) note how the higher courts have ruled several times favoring encyption as free speach, and other intelligent things of that manor. Mainly its the Executive branch and the Legislative branch (in that order) that I dislike mostly, oh yea... and the IRS branch -grin-
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And maby then I can finally get to "Be John Malchavich" (sporry for the mispelling). HEHE Have you ever seen that movie? its great!
http://www.corel.com/news/1999/october/october_25_ 1999.htm
The same annoucement, on corels site. Its a month old even. Oh well, we might need to somehow contact corel in a plesent a kind way and see if they understand the patent problems that graphon has created.
:) your right, I was having a bad ego trip day. I feel better now, honest. :) thanx!
No, not overrated. 2 is my base.. (sigh) Forgive me for trying to share a little insight. :)
One of the questions involved what would happen if conservatives took over, and tried to stop the punishment of Microsoft.
I just wanted to point out that all conservative capitolists that I know would love to see Microsoft appropriently punished.
True capitolist do prefer the government to keep its hands off, but we also realize that since the government is already so involved, it has to fix things like this. It is generally thought that if government has absolutly no intervention in capitolist that problems like this won't even form. And when I say no intervention, I mean NO intervention, that included copywrite, patent, and contract recongition. If two people can't even expect a court to uphold their contracts, all capitolism would be done on a complete honor system, and such an entity as Microsoft could never form. The only problem, is we will never know if true capitolism would would or not, or if it could have even dealt with the modern problems of technology
He was in the process of a divorce. Maby its just me, but someone who has already started divorce procedings, I honestly could care less about who they have sex with. Oh and btw he's now married to that woman. Whoa... SO SCANDULUS!
And I still say John McCain.. HEHE so what your point (okok, so he was involved in the whole SL thing, but it wasn't his fault, and he was found "not guilty" -grin-)
Well sure, Microsoft can contribute to his campain however they want. But remember they have to compute the cost of the equipment, internet bandwidth used, and labor time, as campain contributions. Well looks like thats all the contributions your allowed Billy boy. Sorry!
HEHE Ok I did laugh, but I still have to swear, the thing about republicans being the opposors is just a bad rap they got (almost said we, but hey, I'm independent -chuckle-) I look at it too ways you can try to work for the good of society, or you can look like your working for the good of society, but its really hard to do both.
Unlike what the media may try to lead you to believe, up until the whole Bush quiz thing, I seriously doupt even Gore would have known those exact questions. Canidates honestly have better things to do than spend all their time memorizing facts, they will have plenty of time for that during the presidency. And from what I heard, thats one of the things a new President spends the first couple of months in office doing. Anyways the media loves trying to push their own agendas. If they want to just hurt Bush a little bit, either to get him to do something, or hurt his image, its really easy. I'm sure all slashdot readers remember (or have effectivly blocked) their public school days, think of the media as that big guy, who made a point of destroying your public image, and increase that potential a thousand fold.
While I dislike cops just as much as the next guy, the point is that by killing a cop you are not only trying to commit murdur, but in some way disrupt the abilities of the government to catch criminals. Its sorta for the same reason that I would be charged with treason if I killed the president. The point is that its not the cop who is more important than the cab driver, its the office of civil service that the cop holds is important. And the fact that you are probably trying to 1 resist arrest 2. make yourself the law 3. make less and less people want to become cops and help enforce the law 4. kill someone
CuteMX always gives me an error about the beta being too old and that I need to download a new one... which I can't do obviously.. how do I get around this?
Why don't you look at the ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla/nightly
And you will see that they work on a release till they get all the features they want in it. Start working on the next release, continue to fix bugs on the previous till they reach a point where they think they have all the new features fairly stable. Then they release it.
In Windows Netscape a profile is basically the same as the linux .rc files and associated user independent information. Windows doesn't really tell programs what user you are, nor does it have a home directory for storing program configurations for each user (it sorta does, but there is no standard for third party programs of where to put configurations) Anyways in netscape for windows, if you have multiple users, when you run it, it ask you what profile you want to use. (Basically who you are? sorta...)
Anyways profiles are just specific configurations for each user, such as your email information and display settings for Netscape/Mozilla.
CuteMX keeps telling me that the beta is old and that I need to download the newest version.. of which is not available. hm this looks like a nice program too, guess we will have to wait till the napster suit is over before we might see it. Maby GlobalSCAPE has a motivation now to help napster win.! wouldn't that be fun!
http://www.c-span.org/Campaign2000/gwbushspeeches. asp
its the 4th one down.. its real audio.. and no I didn't have the time to listen to it myself but you can if you want to conferm the quote.
No but see, they are passing laws that say you can't buy a trademarked name with the intent to sell. If he sold it would show intent.. DUH! While a good lawyer could help make sure he doesn't get himself in that sorta trouble.
You forget that it will run a 100 handheld beowulf clustor from just 1 watch battery for a month.
Although Paul Allen, investor, also holds lots of MSFT stock, and thus would get hurt by this... Not too plausible..
:)
Paul Allen is one of the smartest investors out there, it would be interesting to see just exactly how much he has invested. If anything I would watch him and see where his money goes in the next few months. Cause if Paul starts to pull his money out of Microsoft, you can bet there will be a following, which would hurt Microsoft badly. Who knows, maby Paul has a heart and doesn't want to hurt Mircosoft, and sees Transmeta as a way to hedge his losses
Give a man/woman a fish and they will eat for a day.
:)
Teach them to fish, and they will eat for life.
Give them a portal to an infinate pool of information throughout the world, and they just might be able to teach themselves something.
all that we are seeing is highly-predigested evaluations...
:(
Your exactly right, I've almost lost my faith in the whole slashdot community over this whole thing. If you read the bill
http://thomas.loc.gov search for h. 1572.
You will read that all this bill does is set up a panel to investigate how to properly impliment digital signatures, and then to require the federal government to accept them within a year. (Only requiring feds to accept.. not private companies/citizens) And sets up another panel for giving recommendations on creating a private digital signature legal framework no later than a year from now.
THATS IT!.
the reason all the commotion is that the Democratic party decided that instead of waiting till the panel came with its conclusions and then trying to form law around that. That they needed to add an ammendment to this bill to force the later laws to be changed in certain ways. So they veto it.. not even knowning what the eventual law is going to be. Anyways I already posted a comment quoting parts from the bill explaining this. But was a few hours late to stop the spread of this horrific FUD implimented by the opposition to this bill, and the mass media.
If any one of these companies were to fall off of the face of the planet at the height of their power, I believe that there would be a severe econimic problem (for a while, anyway).
No way man, we would just pirate the hell outta it. If I can't buy it anymore... would it really be stealing to copy?
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?c106:1:./tem p/~c106rV3Xiy::
.. read it for yourself anyways
Text of the bill that deals with private transations (the rest of it deal with federal government accepting digital signatures, which is exactly the same wording
SEC. 7. NATIONAL POLICY PANEL FOR DIGITAL SIGNATURES.
(a) ESTABLISHMENT- Not later than 90 days after the date of the enactment of this Act, the Under Secretary shall establish a National Policy Panel for Digital Signatures. The Panel shall be composed of government, academic, and industry technical and legal experts on the implementation of digital signature technologies, State officials, including officials from States which have enacted laws establishing digital signature infrastructures, and representative individuals from the interested public.
(b) RESPONSIBILITIES- The Panel shall serve as a forum for exploring all relevant factors associated with the development of a national digital signature infrastructure based on uniform standards to enable the widespread availability and use of digital signature systems. The Panel shall develop--
(1) model practices and procedures for certification authorities to ensure the accuracy, reliability, and security of operations associated with issuing and managing digital certificates;
(2) standards to ensure consistency among jurisdictions that license certification authorities; and
(3) audit standards for certification authorities.
(c) COORDINATION- The Panel shall coordinate its efforts with those of the Director under section 3.
(d) ADMINISTRATIVE SUPPORT- The Under Secretary shall provide administrative support to enable the
Panel to carry out its responsibilities.
(e) REPORT- Not later than 1 year after the date of the enactment of this Act, the Under Secretary shall transmit to the Congress a report containing the recommendations of the Panel.
All this does it create a panel to investigate, and start their recommendations within a year. Sounds like the oppositions just sees that there is a potential for problems as desribes and whats to specifically made it illigal for those provisions to happen. But the whole thing isn't even formed yet!!
As you live in the Mac and not the Windows world, I can understand your not really being of light to the monopolistic policies of Microsoft. Let me give you an example you would understand. From the finding of fact paragraph 349. ."
A few days after the exchange with Waldman, Gates informed those Microsoft executives most closely involved in the negotiations with Apple that the discussions "have not been going well at all." One of the several reasons for this, Gates wrote, was that "Apple let us down on the browser by making Netscape the standard install." Gates then reported that he had already called Apple's CEO (who at the time was Gil Amelio) to ask "how we should announce the cancellation of Mac Office . . .
Such actions are of obviously dirty handed, but perfectly legal accually. IF!!!! there is compitition in your market place. But having an monopoly, or even something close to a monopoly (I believe 45% is considered enough) causes a company to be under a different set of laws in which such things are purly illigal.
For more things in the Mac side.. check out paragraph 104-110 in the finding of fact
http://usvms.gpo.gov/
(yes the paragraphs are numbered so you don't have to count them)
Yes, but this more a fight between M$ and a the Department of Justice. While I have many problems with the DOJ, when it comes to interpretting the law and the Constituion, and how they apply to events and new laws. They generally do a pretty damn good job (a few notible exception aside) note how the higher courts have ruled several times favoring encyption as free speach, and other intelligent things of that manor. Mainly its the Executive branch and the Legislative branch (in that order) that I dislike mostly, oh yea... and the IRS branch -grin-