No oviously the moderators had too many points on their hands. A few oviously moderated it up to atleast 3 then someone moderated it back down to 2 with troll being the reason. Why it got moderated up to 3 in the first place excapes me.
Accually he was probably a pompous ass cause he was frustrated. I know a person who works tech support who frequently gets calls about lexmarks (he doesn't work at lexmark tech support btw) and states that they are pure evil. Great for a while, but once they start acting weird there is almost nothing that can be done from the typcial user level over the phone.
Thanx for the info, add that one to my list of places not to be during y2k.
1. "Russian" Nuclear Power Plant. 2. Stock Market Trading Floor 3. Dam Recreation Area (you have to be stupid to hang out at one of those during any disaster situation.)
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You missed the point of the thread, it was a conceptial thread based upon the notion of "what if" they made the accual use of reverse engineered software illegal.
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Well what I'm saying is that while it could (which I doupt they would create the law this way in the first place) cause current programs to become illegal. While they couldn't retroactivly arrest you, they could force you to despose of all products in your possession.
HMM havn't heard about the 2038 problem? Could someone please explain for a non programmer? (I know 2048 is 11 bits, but I don't see how this is a problem either?
HAHAH, ROTFL.. HEHE moderate up for humor please.:) While I can't speak for Britian I would be very surprised if there was a single bank not ready by the time Y2K hit, even then, believe it or not, everything is still done on paper. Would you trust a few billion dollars to a database, I don't think so. I do kinda wonder why some companies are spending so much, but you know as I think about it, I bet with a little bit of creative financing I could write off all my Y2K expenses on my taxes. Hmm, hey George, how much are we spending to pay those computer guys to keep our system running.. Hmm reallly?? and we have to pay taxes on that?.. Hmm relocate them to the Y2K Team (don't tell them though.. HAHHAHAH). IRS, oh yea, they are outta date, but their computers are no more than glorified adding machines from the 70s. They just need to walk over to kinko's and say Hey, umm I need 1 Billion of these neat little forms made, umm next week. Alright.. Thanx.! Railroads? hmmm.. steam/electrical engines that run on a straight track. Oh sure they need to keep on schedule, but it was done for a hundred years by watch, I doupt they will kill over anytime soon.
You don't think it's a problem when a park is flooded with 3-1/2 MILLION gallons of raw sewage thanks to a y2k test? (wtf did this really happen? or what.. if not my responce) Wow, my park is going to be flooded with raw Sewage!!! COOL!! so you say y2k reverses gravity. And those low lying sewage plants tanks are gonna starts flowing up to the generally high lying parks. That rocks, gonna rememeber to bring my bathing suit!
Where are these "nuts" you speak of? If they're such a big danger, there surely must be a lot of them. Where are they? Umm.. Mirror???
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If they make using a reverse engineered clone legal (illegal?), it won't matter if everyone in Australia is hacking on Samba. It'd be illegal to use it in the US.
Problem with that is if they made such a law that banned the "use" of such a product. It would automatically retroactivly affect all software out there that used reverse engineering in the past. I would be willing to be there is some reverse engineering used to make many of the programs we use today, including Linux and Windows. And you know Microsoft wouldn't allow a law to be passed that made windows illegal. Look for special exeptions in the law for Microsoft.
Well most geeks respect and understand the IE/Netscape argument (current working versions, not future products or company visions.) But if you try to argue the superiority of any of their products you deserve to be laughed at, just as I deserve to be lauged at when I state with pride that "I'm muscular, I'm cute, and damnit people like me." (as they are all lies and intended as a joke)
Yes, but the basic rule of the market is, that if alot of people are trying to buy, and few selling, then the price goes up. Alot of people trying to sell and few buying, the price goes down. If most of the initial purchasers hold onto most of their stock then the price will rise until it reaches a point to where the price is high enough that people want to sell. If most of the initial ipo purchasers keep their stocks for close to a month without selling such an action would push the price up, even to the point of causing the stock to split, which can help the stock in the long term from falling too low.
Well accually legally I believe that your backpack belongs to your parents. So they force you to take your parents property to school everyday (obviously this part your parents probably consent to). Then at random times without consulting your parent, (or you, which your parent by loaning it have entrusted such desisions) they search your backpack. Doesn't sound very legal to me, could easily be challenged. Though schools could just have a letter at the beginning of the year requesting a parent waive all rights concerning you (HAHAH).
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Sorry bout that.. didn't see the side nav bar on the about company tab. http://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/pageview?cmd=inves tors
Anyways, for anyone else out there, the list of investors is Nokia, Deutsche Bank, Bill Melton (of CyberCash and VeriFone), and Martin Hellman.
Well they specifically state in their privacy policy that they ask for demographic information, but that they don't give it out (cept probably base statistic as in how many people on their system fit certain demographics). They simply use it for indirect marketing. Meaning a adveriser says "Hey, I hear you have alot of college students signed up, give them all this advertisment." PayPal says "Yea we got 2 million of em, that'll cost you 50,000"
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umm can you please point me to a url where you found this info? I don't see it anywhere, but if true that is definatly good news!
Geez, its going to be simpley an encypted text/data. There should be no need for any executables, meaning there should be no viruses. But, as was previously said, we need to find out what encryption and protection system they are using first. Anyone know anything about this companies history? any complaints?
Q: Talking about MPEG audio, I always hear "Layer 1, 2 and 3". What does it mean? A: MPEG describes the compression of audio signals using high performance perceptual coding schemes. It specifies a family of three audio coding schemes, simply called Layer-1, Layer-2, and Layer-3. From Layer-1 to Layer-3, encoder complexity and performance (sound quality per bitrate) are increasing. The three codecs are compatible in a hierarchical way, i.e. a Layer-N decoder may be able to decode bitstream data encoded in Layer-N and all Layers below N (e.g., a Layer-3 decoder may accept Layer-1,-2,-3, whereas a Layer-2 decoder may accept only Layer-1 and -2.)
Basically they are all audio formats (the video "layers" arn't called "layers") and the higher layers are most complex than the lower layers. Layer-1 is really not that much far from.wav just a slight bit of compression.
Well I've found winroute lite (www.tinysoftware.com) to be an awesome program for running multiple ip's over one connection. Never had a problem with any games or DCC, would suggest to anyone who needs and easy to configure Masquearder for win95/98.
Sorry I guess I was misinformed, but it was stated as just my understanding and was perfectly open to correction which I thank Hal for doing (assuming he is right).
If we where to do this we would need to do this right. I don't think we can really choose what is of historical significance. To do this up right, we should ultimatly try and store every computer/internet related document we can find. Now I do think we can live without including the "Hey this is a picture of my computer" webpage. But honestly who is to make such a decision. I guess ultimatly a few indescriminatory measures could be used.
Web page hits: sound silly but the more people read any document how ever strange it is, the more that document has the potential to effect the internet as a whole. The frog in the blender for example.. ok bad example, as its not truly internet related but might as well be stored, for embarresment sake if anything. This would also cover many major documents like the Cathedral.. as many people have read it.
Legal documents: Any court rulings, congressional hearings/bills etc. that deal with the internet and its freedom.
RFCs: Request For Comments. DUH.
Histories: Histories and bibliographies on major companies (yes even microsoft) and people, that have had an effect on the internet. (This would be the tough one as it would call for some judgement, but he basic rule should be that if there is any even remote consideration for a person/company they should include them. I'm not saying that the group that stores these records should create such bibliographies, but if one exist, and there is any reason to believe that they/it had an effect upon the net, it should be included.
Free Submission: While ultimatly there needs to be a board or voting group (slashdot?? hehe) in control. All people should be able to submit documents. Such documents shold have a minimum of review. Look to see if the submission is of geniune intent, and store it.
Well in all honesty my understanding is that untill reciently nothing has changed really from the old 386 33MHZ. Sure they added a FPU and a frontside bus, and are making the buses slowly faster. But basically they are just stacking multiple 33MHZ processors into the same chip. Why else do you think that all early pentium chips were rated in multiples of 33. (well sorta, they did kinda get lazy with their math) (I believe amd chips are the same, though I don't know about the k7 it may have gotten away from that)
Yes you are paranoid.. There are enough people out there who consitently use sniffers on their home computers that such blatent abuse by microsoft would quickly be noticed. Anybody remember the thing with blizzard and that was a tiny explotation. I could only imagine the legal backlash if microsoft was accually caught doing something like that. HMM I can't wait!!
umm "Contents" not recorded. Meaning you can't record the surveillance. In other words if you have camera going to a bunch of tv's with some guy watching them, but those signals are not recorded its perfectly legal (which makes sense as such would only be a space shifting device so that the guards don't have to be everywhere). So no we don't need to assume we are being recorded unless stated in friendly letters on the door that for our safty and security we are being watched!
NSA: Sir, will you please look into this light. Representative: What is this some kind of eye tes... (flashy light thing) NSA: Now sir, remember you work for us, you do everything we tell you. You are being placed inside Congress as a representative, so act the part. But remember you must always report back to us. Now sit straight BOY.
Slashdot Mirror
No oviously the moderators had too many points on their hands. A few oviously moderated it up to atleast 3 then someone moderated it back down to 2 with troll being the reason. Why it got moderated up to 3 in the first place excapes me.
Accually he was probably a pompous ass cause he was frustrated. I know a person who works tech support who frequently gets calls about lexmarks (he doesn't work at lexmark tech support btw) and states that they are pure evil. Great for a while, but once they start acting weird there is almost nothing that can be done from the typcial user level over the phone.
Thanx for the info, add that one to my list of places not to be during y2k.
1. "Russian" Nuclear Power Plant.
2. Stock Market Trading Floor
3. Dam Recreation Area (you have to be stupid to hang out at one of those during any disaster situation.)
You missed the point of the thread, it was a conceptial thread based upon the notion of "what if" they made the accual use of reverse engineered software illegal.
Well what I'm saying is that while it could (which I doupt they would create the law this way in the first place) cause current programs to become illegal. While they couldn't retroactivly arrest you, they could force you to despose of all products in your possession.
HMM havn't heard about the 2038 problem? Could someone please explain for a non programmer? (I know 2048 is 11 bits, but I don't see how this is a problem either?
HAHAH, ROTFL.. HEHE moderate up for humor please. :)
While I can't speak for Britian I would be very surprised if there was a single bank not ready by the time Y2K hit, even then, believe it or not, everything is still done on paper. Would you trust a few billion dollars to a database, I don't think so. I do kinda wonder why some companies are spending so much, but you know as I think about it, I bet with a little bit of creative financing I could write off all my Y2K expenses on my taxes. Hmm, hey George, how much are we spending to pay those computer guys to keep our system running.. Hmm reallly?? and we have to pay taxes on that?.. Hmm relocate them to the Y2K Team (don't tell them though.. HAHHAHAH). IRS, oh yea, they are outta date, but their computers are no more than glorified adding machines from the 70s. They just need to walk over to kinko's and say Hey, umm I need 1 Billion of these neat little forms made, umm next week. Alright.. Thanx.!
Railroads? hmmm.. steam/electrical engines that run on a straight track. Oh sure they need to keep on schedule, but it was done for a hundred years by watch, I doupt they will kill over anytime soon.
You don't think it's a problem when a park is flooded with 3-1/2 MILLION gallons of raw sewage thanks to a y2k test?
(wtf did this really happen? or what.. if not my responce)
Wow, my park is going to be flooded with raw Sewage!!! COOL!! so you say y2k reverses gravity. And those low lying sewage plants tanks are gonna starts flowing up to the generally high lying parks. That rocks, gonna rememeber to bring my bathing suit!
Where are these "nuts" you speak of? If they're such a big danger, there surely must be a lot of them. Where are they?
Umm.. Mirror???
If they make using a reverse engineered clone legal (illegal?), it won't matter if everyone in Australia is hacking on Samba. It'd be illegal to use it in the US.
Problem with that is if they made such a law that banned the "use" of such a product. It would automatically retroactivly affect all software out there that used reverse engineering in the past. I would be willing to be there is some reverse engineering used to make many of the programs we use today, including Linux and Windows. And you know Microsoft wouldn't allow a law to be passed that made windows illegal.
Look for special exeptions in the law for Microsoft.
Well most geeks respect and understand the IE/Netscape argument (current working versions, not future products or company visions.)
But if you try to argue the superiority of any of their products you deserve to be laughed at, just as I deserve to be lauged at when I state with pride that "I'm muscular, I'm cute, and damnit people like me." (as they are all lies and intended as a joke)
Yes, but the basic rule of the market is, that if alot of people are trying to buy, and few selling, then the price goes up. Alot of people trying to sell and few buying, the price goes down. If most of the initial purchasers hold onto most of their stock then the price will rise until it reaches a point to where the price is high enough that people want to sell. If most of the initial ipo purchasers keep their stocks for close to a month without selling such an action would push the price up, even to the point of causing the stock to split, which can help the stock in the long term from falling too low.
Well accually legally I believe that your backpack belongs to your parents. So they force you to take your parents property to school everyday (obviously this part your parents probably consent to). Then at random times without consulting your parent, (or you, which your parent by loaning it have entrusted such desisions) they search your backpack. Doesn't sound very legal to me, could easily be challenged. Though schools could just have a letter at the beginning of the year requesting a parent waive all rights concerning you (HAHAH).
Sorry bout that.. didn't see the side nav bar on the about company tab.s tors
http://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/pageview?cmd=inve
Anyways, for anyone else out there, the list of investors is Nokia, Deutsche Bank, Bill Melton (of CyberCash and VeriFone), and Martin Hellman.
Well they specifically state in their privacy policy that they ask for demographic information, but that they don't give it out (cept probably base statistic as in how many people on their system fit certain demographics). They simply use it for indirect marketing. Meaning a adveriser says "Hey, I hear you have alot of college students signed up, give them all this advertisment." PayPal says "Yea we got 2 million of em, that'll cost you 50,000"
umm can you please point me to a url where you found this info? I don't see it anywhere, but if true that is definatly good news!
Geez, its going to be simpley an encypted text/data. There should be no need for any executables, meaning there should be no viruses. But, as was previously said, we need to find out what encryption and protection system they are using first. Anyone know anything about this companies history? any complaints?
hehe nope :)
.wav just a slight bit of compression.
from mp3 faq
Q: Talking about MPEG audio, I always hear "Layer 1, 2 and 3". What does it mean?
A: MPEG describes the compression of audio signals using high performance perceptual coding schemes. It specifies a family of three audio coding schemes, simply called Layer-1, Layer-2, and Layer-3. From Layer-1 to Layer-3, encoder complexity and performance (sound quality per bitrate) are increasing. The three codecs are compatible in a hierarchical way, i.e. a Layer-N decoder may be able to decode bitstream data encoded in Layer-N and all Layers below N (e.g., a Layer-3 decoder may accept Layer-1,-2,-3, whereas a Layer-2 decoder may accept only Layer-1 and -2.)
Basically they are all audio formats (the video "layers" arn't called "layers") and the higher layers are most complex than the lower layers. Layer-1 is really not that much far from
Well I've found winroute lite (www.tinysoftware.com) to be an awesome program for running multiple ip's over one connection. Never had a problem with any games or DCC, would suggest to anyone who needs and easy to configure Masquearder for win95/98.
I started with Office 95 and wasn't noticed until last year.
Damn thats impressive, I think the cDc needs to look into hooking up with you, definate asset!
(note: this was intended simply as satire, not meant to insult HiThere, or any or persons dead or alive, except your mom)
Sorry I guess I was misinformed, but it was stated as just my understanding and was perfectly open to correction which I thank Hal for doing (assuming he is right).
If we where to do this we would need to do this right. I don't think we can really choose what is of historical significance. To do this up right, we should ultimatly try and store every computer/internet related document we can find. Now I do think we can live without including the "Hey this is a picture of my computer" webpage. But honestly who is to make such a decision. I guess ultimatly a few indescriminatory measures could be used.
Web page hits: sound silly but the more people read any document how ever strange it is, the more that document has the potential to effect the internet as a whole. The frog in the blender for example.. ok bad example, as its not truly internet related but might as well be stored, for embarresment sake if anything. This would also cover many major documents like the Cathedral..
as many people have read it.
Legal documents: Any court rulings, congressional hearings/bills etc. that deal with the internet and its freedom.
RFCs: Request For Comments. DUH.
Histories: Histories and bibliographies on major companies (yes even microsoft) and people, that have had an effect on the internet. (This would be the tough one as it would call for some judgement, but he basic rule should be that if there is any even remote consideration for a person/company they should include them. I'm not saying that the group that stores these records should create such bibliographies, but if one exist, and there is any reason to believe that they/it had an effect upon the net, it should be included.
Free Submission: While ultimatly there needs to be a board or voting group (slashdot?? hehe) in control. All people should be able to submit documents. Such documents shold have a minimum of review. Look to see if the submission is of geniune intent, and store it.
Well in all honesty my understanding is that untill reciently nothing has changed really from the old 386 33MHZ. Sure they added a FPU and a frontside bus, and are making the buses slowly faster. But basically they are just stacking multiple 33MHZ processors into the same chip. Why else do you think that all early pentium chips were rated in multiples of 33. (well sorta, they did kinda get lazy with their math) (I believe amd chips are the same, though I don't know about the k7 it may have gotten away from that)
Yes you are paranoid.. There are enough people out there who consitently use sniffers on their home computers that such blatent abuse by microsoft would quickly be noticed. Anybody remember the thing with blizzard and that was a tiny explotation. I could only imagine the legal backlash if microsoft was accually caught doing something like that. HMM I can't wait!!
umm "Contents" not recorded. Meaning you can't record the surveillance. In other words if you have camera going to a bunch of tv's with some guy watching them, but those signals are not recorded its perfectly legal (which makes sense as such would only be a space shifting device so that the guards don't have to be everywhere). So no we don't need to assume we are being recorded unless stated in friendly letters on the door that for our safty and security we are being watched!
NSA: Sir, will you please look into this light.
Representative: What is this some kind of eye tes...
(flashy light thing)
NSA: Now sir, remember you work for us, you do everything we tell you. You are being placed inside Congress as a representative, so act the part. But remember you must always report back to us. Now sit straight BOY.
*covers his head in shame*.. *then suddently retroactivly corrects his .sig* HAHA you can't prove it was ever wrong.. hehe