This doesn't suprise me, with all the money being spend on the army, it makes an awful lof of sence to give the army all the tools they need. the better prepared the army, the better they can protect us.
They are not protecting us the US. There is an old rule of thumb as far as military spending is concerned about keeping enough assets to fight 2.5 wars. This way when we go out and police the world we don't leave our nation undefended. Keep in mind two large northern and southern land borders, and two large coasts. Well during the lovely Gulf war this rule was changed to a guide line, one which has long since been crossed. At present the function of the military is not to defend us, it's off elsewhere fighting terror with terror. There hasn't been a terrorist attack since 9/11, and like a moron swatting hornet's nest chances are this will change.
The Army should be there to protect us. The Army is out playing world police.
This is why I setup a stand alone wifi network that when ever war-drivers discover my "wireless network" everything they visit gets redirected to goatse. The result, I've observed is usually a loud exclamation followed by the sound of screeching tires and burnt rubber.
Next i'll observe when I secretly host a wifi network near starbucks and replace everything with a small mirror of www.khaaan.com.
What good is this to anyone who wants to keep data beyond half a decade?
What about data that doesn't need to be kept beyond a 1/2 decade? I think that's the point. The first thing that comes to mind are security camera videos. DVD-/+R is the prevered medium due to its small size and low cost but long term storage is pointless.
This will always bother me. Society looks for scapegoats responsible for the violence such as TV, Movies, and how video games. Perhaps it's time we look the perpetrators in the eye, in this case, a couple of people one of who is said to be an adult dressed up as elite commands from Counter Strike, and say, "Dude, you're fucked up". Someone who attempts to fly off a building because they got too caught up in a Dungeon and Dragons style adventure is fucked up. Someone who drives around in a swamp and tries to jump over cop cars with a trunk load of moonshine is fucked up. I guess we could take a moment to gasp at the fact that they lacked any sort of imagination to do something very stupid but it doesn't change the fact that they are a threat to others and likely would have been a threat anyway. What's next, dressing up like a bus driver to escape accountability for domeic violence?
Yes, and it's found using Pricewatch, Google, and other product search engines. Not all cheap RAM is bad, but you're a lot more likely to get something crappy if you go with the lowest bidder.
Based on my observation, lowest bid memory is just the stuff that is in current mass production. This may or may not work with your chipset, nor are they going to take the time to document the chip density. Assuming quality control is not an issue, IMHO this is why it's generally bad to go with the lowest bidder because you might end up with something that not only doesn't work for you, but you have *NO CLUE* what it will work on.
I have had good luck with page one pricewatch memory. I also own systems with VIA chipsets which based on my experience will typically take page 1 pricewatch memory.
I hope the rest of the world remembers that nearly half of the voters did not want Bush back in office. This was no affirmation that 'Americans' agree with Bush. This is proof of what strategic campaigning can do, and it is proof that our country is still rabidly divided.
Look at it this way. Out of 58 million people out of 280 million voted for G.W. bush or roughly 20% of America, or slightly under 1% of the worlds population. But look at what we have to look forward to as a result of this sub 1% voice from the planet Earth. Continued war with Iraq, perhaps even Iran and Syria. Oh, and Keneth Lay getting the Duhbya pardon. Oh less I forget, this election was about moral values, not about the fact we have so much might in the middle east our shore is totally defenceless from attack.
So we saw this coming, I suppose, and while most of us do not like it, it is finished. This is a testament both to Kerry's character as well as America's democratic process. I wish the candidates the best of luck now that it is over, and I hope that America does not go to hell.
This is yet another case where I wish America was on the popular vote system rather than the electoral vote system. Bush clearly won the popular vote by a factor of 3,529,724. While I didn't vote for Bush based on these numbers I could move on. But the Bush lead in Ohio is 136,221, a margin lower than the amount of votes still left uncounted. I can not in good conscience say that Bush won our election so long as provisional and absentee votes are yet uncounted, to do so would be un-American.
This is a testament to the American democratic process, a process that serves to divide a nation rather than unite it.
What about a cache expansion kit that is a small daughterboard that can take multiple RAM type designs (SIMM / DIMM / SO-DIMM etc), and which then plugs into the drive's cache socket. This would mean that all the old RAM that you had to remove to upgrade your machine could be put to good use. Even though it would not be as fast as the RAM in main use, it would still be around 1000 times faster than the HD itself. OK, so trying to integrate 30-pin SIMMs would probably be a bit silly (especially with a limit of something like 8Mb), but anything from about 168-pin would do. The Legacy Observation...
The moment you design something to use anything older it will end up costing as much or more than new. While sure you might be able to find old POS memory on the used market, it would be wise to use things in current production so if a large company wishes to order thousands of units, you can build your board and get thousands of units of ram. This would not work well with 2nd hand RAM.
The 64 bit advantage will suffer thesame fate as the 32bit advantage did for the 486, pentium & especially the Pentium Pro.
What fate would that be? In 1985 I could see buying into a 286 simply because there was really no support for 32bit protected mode let alone expanded memory. Hell extended memory was barely supported. Even in 1990 I could see buying into a 286 if it would save you money. Dos 4.0 was a bug ridden piece of filth and there still was not alot of support for 32bit protected mode. By 1995 it was pretty clear that you would be totally SOL in a very short period of time.
I think you mean that microsoft implemented 32bit support so slowly that you barely noticed anything until WindowsNT.
Motorola on the other hand designed their 68000 was designed to be a 32bit chip from the get go, which I believe was first introduced in 1979 or so, at least according to my data book titled "break away from the past". Makes you wonder why anyone thought it was a good idea to use the 8086 for the PC.
and that is that they can be used everywhere because CD-Roms are ubituous and DVD-Roms are not yet
That depends on the data. If we are talking video / mp3 it's a pretty safe bet that you're going to have access to a standalone DVD player, unless it's for the car in which case DVD players are not so common yet. If we are talking the PC, unfortunatly PCs are still shipped with either only a CD-ROM or a CD-R(w) drive. By now they should be ubituous, but alas they must be saving a few dollars per unit by not including DVD drives.
I'm still trying to get my 8X to burn at 4X. I'm at my third stack of media (all from different manufacturers) and all I can do is 2.4X. Only coasters at 4X (except for Maxell media which I ran out of early on).
I had the same problem my self on my liteon 812s(832s rom). At first I plugged in my drive into my Promise UDMA/100 controler and the results were less than stellar. My burn speeds were limited to 2x and Nero would not fuction at all. I changed cables and plugged it into the motherboard and I've actually achieved 6x recording (1/2 @ 4x, 1/2 @ 8x). I can't say if it was the Promise controler or my crappy cables, but higher than 4x recording is possible.
The price of writable DVD's is much too high for me, I think I'll stick with my cheap-o CD-R's for now:D
58cents/each is too costly for you for a DVD+/-R? If you pay attention you can get this media localy during sales and such. Rather than 38cents/each for CD-R media.
I don't think I've ever seen an electric fan fail on a car, ever. I've seen the switches that screw into the radiator fail, but not the actual fan.
I'll agree that electric radiator fans generally have a really long life, and under ideal conditions I'm sure one *should* last decades without issue. But cars at scrap yards are not typically ideal, in fact I'd wager that most experienced catastrophic failure, so catastrophic you can no longer use them as cars. Not to speak of physical impact that they may have encountered which could easily knock bearings out of alignment, but various fluids that may have spewed as a direct result of accident, age, or an incompetent mechanic.
I admit I've only seen electric radiator fans fail after about 200,000 miles or so. I have had to replace one personally once due to being oil soaked.
Since it's just a car radiator lying beside the PC case, getting a fan to fit wouldn't really be an issue. You'd just make up brackets to take whatever fan you had.
It's kinda nice to have a plastic shroud and fan that bolts directly on without the need to make brakets.
And why buy the electric fan new? Go to your local scrappy and get a car radiator fan for about £5.
It's rather why I bought up the fact that the Toyota 3a series engine used an electric fan, or that the 1.2l for the same car used an electric fan. I doubt my local scrap yard would charge as little as £5, last time I looked into it they wanted $25-$50.
The only reason to buy new is new will work. A scrap yard fan may not.
Unfortunately the brother's car no longer goes anywere.
That might not be true. The last time I ran a 1970's Corolla without a radiator the only thing that happened was it blew a head gasket. This is actually very common on the 2t-c / 3t-c engine. For 40 miles I was limited to 40mph, and efficiency was shot to hell, something to do with fire and smoke spewing out the top of the engine.
You don't seem to understand the mindset of someone who places a car radiator onto thier computer. I suspect this guy would really enjoy the "cool" factor on putting a fan on the radiator.
It would be cooler to use an electric fan, which wasn't stock on a 1979 Toyota Corolla with the 1.6l (2t-c in america) engine. It may have been stock on their 1.2L (3k-c in america) engine, but i've never seen this engine in my life let alone the fan(s). Lots of luck finding one.
IIRC the 1983 Corolla-Tercel as well as the 1984 Tercel with the 1.5L (3a-c in america) might have used an electric fan. They definatly would have switched when they mounted the engine perpendicular to the direction of travel, which would have been about 1986/1987 or so. A Tercel fan might just fit and mount properly.
The last time I bought a radiator for a Corolla, it was $65 for a new aftermarket one at a local junkyard. It worked so well that I had to put in a hotter thermostat.
A universal 12V electric fan can be had for about $50 to $100 at auto parts stores. I don't have access to one so I can't even guess their current draw.
If you sunk $150 into the old hardware and upgraded it to new, you'd have a quicker machine and wouldn't have to sacrifice functionality and features just to get that old dinosaur PIII to crawl from its own ashes again.
Assuming you have the cash, skill, time, and a desktop then yes. $150 could easily get you into an amd 1700+ cpu, motherboard, and 256megs of memory.
But then you have this old dinosaur PIII motherboard laying about. What happens to it esp after you decide to upgrade the hard drive and video?
A more Eco-friendly solution would be to slap your spare parts in a case and sell / donate / give it to someone else, and now we are back to square one, still having an old clunker in need of an operating system.
The whole point of making users "activate" a new installation of Windows is to discourage the use or distribution of pirated copies. It didn't really work. The honest people stayed honest, but were inconvenienced. And the pirates kept pirating.
I don't believe it was ever designed to be a very effect means of combating the majority of piracy. It's better suited to combating casual piracy.
Let's say for example you bought a New PC. But you also have this old PC as well. So you decide since you already *bought* XP there would be no harm in putting it on your old computer that's presently running 95/98/ME. Given the low cost of new PCs, it's not really worth it to spend $100 on an upgrade version of XP esp on machines made pre 2000.
The licensing program did a very good job preventing casual piracy. Whether or not these quasi-legit people actually decided to buy another copy of windows is not known to me. It's very possible that Microsoft spent more money employing a staff to answer license related questions then they could possibly make selling disks at $100/pop.
I don't know if I have a point
I'll make the point painfully clear. Microsoft created a program of license verification that punishes the legit users by attempting to weed out the quasi-legit users, where blatant piracy is the only means to by-pass the red tape and have a working product.
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This doesn't suprise me, with all the money being spend on the army, it makes an awful lof of sence to give the army all the tools they need. the better prepared the army, the better they can protect us.
They are not protecting us the US. There is an old rule of thumb as far as military spending is concerned about keeping enough assets to fight 2.5 wars. This way when we go out and police the world we don't leave our nation undefended. Keep in mind two large northern and southern land borders, and two large coasts. Well during the lovely Gulf war this rule was changed to a guide line, one which has long since been crossed. At present the function of the military is not to defend us, it's off elsewhere fighting terror with terror. There hasn't been a terrorist attack since 9/11, and like a moron swatting hornet's nest chances are this will change.
The Army should be there to protect us.
The Army is out playing world police.
How many home networks really need to allow random MAC addresses access?
How many home users know what a MAC address is?
If you want to get really evil, I assure you that some twisted people are perfectly capable of dreaming up even scarier things than goatse
I don't know, hearing 20 laptops or so yelling "Khaaan! Khaaan!" I think is scarier than a penis bisection.
This is why I setup a stand alone wifi network that when ever war-drivers discover my "wireless network" everything they visit gets redirected to goatse. The result, I've observed is usually a loud exclamation followed by the sound of screeching tires and burnt rubber.
Next i'll observe when I secretly host a wifi network near starbucks and replace everything with a small mirror of www.khaaan.com.
1. Take corn based AOL disks, water, and yeast
2. Allow to ferment
3. Distill and enjoy
AOL, "You got drunk"
What good is this to anyone who wants to keep data beyond half a decade?
What about data that doesn't need to be kept beyond a 1/2 decade? I think that's the point. The first thing that comes to mind are security camera videos. DVD-/+R is the prevered medium due to its small size and low cost but long term storage is pointless.
This will always bother me. Society looks for scapegoats responsible for the violence such as TV, Movies, and how video games. Perhaps it's time we look the perpetrators in the eye, in this case, a couple of people one of who is said to be an adult dressed up as elite commands from Counter Strike, and say, "Dude, you're fucked up". Someone who attempts to fly off a building because they got too caught up in a
Dungeon and Dragons style adventure is fucked up. Someone who drives around in a swamp and tries to jump over cop cars with a trunk load of moonshine is fucked up. I guess we could take a moment to gasp at the fact that they lacked any sort of imagination to do something very stupid but it doesn't change the fact that they are a threat to others and likely would have been a threat anyway. What's next, dressing up like a bus driver to escape accountability for domeic violence?
Yes, and it's found using Pricewatch, Google, and other product search engines. Not all cheap RAM is bad, but you're a lot more likely to get something crappy if you go with the lowest bidder.
Based on my observation, lowest bid memory is just the stuff that is in current mass production. This may or may not work with your chipset, nor are they going to take the time to document the chip density. Assuming quality control is not an issue, IMHO this is why it's generally bad to go with the lowest bidder because you might end up with something that not only doesn't work for you, but you have *NO CLUE* what it will work on.
I have had good luck with page one pricewatch memory. I also own systems with VIA chipsets which based on my experience will typically take page 1 pricewatch memory.
I hope the rest of the world remembers that nearly half of the voters did not want Bush back in office. This was no affirmation that 'Americans' agree with Bush. This is proof of what strategic campaigning can do, and it is proof that our country is still rabidly divided.
Look at it this way. Out of 58 million people out of 280 million voted for G.W. bush or roughly 20% of America, or slightly under 1% of the worlds population. But look at what we have to look forward to as a result of this sub 1% voice from the planet Earth. Continued war with Iraq, perhaps even Iran and Syria. Oh, and Keneth Lay getting the Duhbya pardon. Oh less I forget, this election was about moral values, not about the fact we have so much might in the middle east our shore is totally defenceless from attack.
So we saw this coming, I suppose, and while most of us do not like it, it is finished. This is a testament both to Kerry's character as well as America's democratic process. I wish the candidates the best of luck now that it is over, and I hope that America does not go to hell.
This is yet another case where I wish America was on the popular vote system rather than the electoral vote system. Bush clearly won the popular vote by a factor of 3,529,724. While I didn't vote for Bush based on these numbers I could move on. But the Bush lead in Ohio is 136,221, a margin lower than the amount of votes still left uncounted. I can not in good conscience say that Bush won our election so long as provisional and absentee votes are yet uncounted, to do so would be un-American.
This is a testament to the American democratic process, a process that serves to divide a nation rather than unite it.
What about a cache expansion kit that is a small daughterboard that can take multiple RAM type designs (SIMM / DIMM / SO-DIMM etc), and which then plugs into the drive's cache socket. This would mean that all the old RAM that you had to remove to upgrade your machine could be put to good use. Even though it would not be as fast as the RAM in main use, it would still be around 1000 times faster than the HD itself. OK, so trying to integrate 30-pin SIMMs would probably be a bit silly (especially with a limit of something like 8Mb), but anything from about 168-pin would do.
The Legacy Observation...
The moment you design something to use anything older it will end up costing as much or more than new. While sure you might be able to find old POS memory on the used market, it would be wise to use things in current production so if a large company wishes to order thousands of units, you can build your board and get thousands of units of ram. This would not work well with 2nd hand RAM.
.. what's wrong with just tossing your cables behind the desk and just let em be!?
Ask the cat that's been trapped back there for another night.
The 64 bit advantage will suffer thesame fate as the 32bit advantage did for the 486, pentium & especially the Pentium Pro.
What fate would that be? In 1985 I could see buying into a 286 simply because there was really no support for 32bit protected mode let alone expanded memory. Hell extended memory was barely supported. Even in 1990 I could see buying into a 286 if it would save you money. Dos 4.0 was a bug ridden piece of filth and there still was not alot of support for 32bit protected mode. By 1995 it was pretty clear that you would be totally SOL in a very short period of time.
I think you mean that microsoft implemented 32bit support so slowly that you barely noticed anything until WindowsNT.
Motorola on the other hand designed their 68000 was designed to be a 32bit chip from the get go, which I believe was first introduced in 1979 or so, at least according to my data book titled "break away from the past". Makes you wonder why anyone thought it was a good idea to use the 8086 for the PC.
and that is that they can be used everywhere because CD-Roms are ubituous and DVD-Roms are not yet
That depends on the data. If we are talking video / mp3 it's a pretty safe bet that you're going to have access to a standalone DVD player, unless it's for the car in which case DVD players are not so common yet. If we are talking the PC, unfortunatly PCs are still shipped with either only a CD-ROM or a CD-R(w) drive. By now they should be ubituous, but alas they must be saving a few dollars per unit by not including DVD drives.
I'm still trying to get my 8X to burn at 4X. I'm at my third stack of media (all from different manufacturers) and all I can do is 2.4X. Only coasters at 4X (except for Maxell media which I ran out of early on).
I had the same problem my self on my liteon 812s(832s rom). At first I plugged in my drive into my Promise UDMA/100 controler and the results were less than stellar. My burn speeds were limited to 2x and Nero would not fuction at all. I changed cables and plugged it into the motherboard and I've actually achieved 6x recording (1/2 @ 4x, 1/2 @ 8x). I can't say if it was the Promise controler or my crappy cables, but higher than 4x recording is possible.
The price of writable DVD's is much too high for me, I think I'll stick with my cheap-o CD-R's for now :D
58cents/each is too costly for you for a DVD+/-R? If you pay attention you can get this media localy during sales and such. Rather than 38cents/each for CD-R media.
58cents / 4.7gig = 12.3cents/gig
38cents / 650meg * ( 1gig/1024meg) = 59cents/gig
To be fair, let's look at the lowest price 50pack of CDs on this site. $8.00/50 = 16cents each
16cents / 650 * 1gig/1024) = 25.2cents/gig
Under these conditions, DVD-R is cheaper per gig than CD-r.
I don't think I've ever seen an electric fan fail on a car, ever. I've seen the switches that screw into the radiator fail, but not the actual fan.
I'll agree that electric radiator fans generally have a really long life, and under ideal conditions I'm sure one *should* last decades without issue. But cars at scrap yards are not typically ideal, in fact I'd wager that most experienced catastrophic failure, so catastrophic you can no longer use them as cars. Not to speak of physical impact that they may have encountered which could easily knock bearings out of alignment, but various fluids that may have spewed as a direct result of accident, age, or an incompetent mechanic.
I admit I've only seen electric radiator fans fail after about 200,000 miles or so. I have had to replace one personally once due to being oil soaked.
The gamecube IIRC uses 3 inch discs. These are roughly the same cost per unit as 5 inch disks, so I propose the following solution
Step 1. Pleace cd-r(w)/DVD+/-r(w) in 1/4 inch angle grinder
Step 2. Grind away until your DVD is 3 inches. Start with a good flat bastard file ending with some 220 grit sand paper to make it smooth
Step 3. Clean up this mess of plastic that flew everywhere.
Since it's just a car radiator lying beside the PC case, getting a fan to fit wouldn't really be an issue. You'd just make up brackets to take whatever fan you had.
It's kinda nice to have a plastic shroud and fan that bolts directly on without the need to make brakets.
And why buy the electric fan new? Go to your local scrappy and get a car radiator fan for about £5.
It's rather why I bought up the fact that the Toyota 3a series engine used an electric fan, or that the 1.2l for the same car used an electric fan. I doubt my local scrap yard would charge as little as £5, last time I looked into it they wanted $25-$50.
The only reason to buy new is new will work. A scrap yard fan may not.
Unfortunately the brother's car no longer goes anywere.
That might not be true. The last time I ran a 1970's Corolla without a radiator the only thing that happened was it blew a head gasket. This is actually very common on the 2t-c / 3t-c engine. For 40 miles I was limited to 40mph, and efficiency was shot to hell, something to do with fire and smoke spewing out the top of the engine.
You don't seem to understand the mindset of someone who places a car radiator onto thier computer. I suspect this guy would really enjoy the "cool" factor on putting a fan on the radiator.
It would be cooler to use an electric fan, which wasn't stock on a 1979 Toyota Corolla with the 1.6l (2t-c in america) engine. It may have been stock on their 1.2L (3k-c in america) engine, but i've never seen this engine in my life let alone the fan(s). Lots of luck finding one.
IIRC the 1983 Corolla-Tercel as well as the 1984 Tercel with the 1.5L (3a-c in america) might have used an electric fan. They definatly would have switched when they mounted the engine perpendicular to the direction of travel, which would have been about 1986/1987 or so. A Tercel fan might just fit and mount properly.
The last time I bought a radiator for a Corolla, it was $65 for a new aftermarket one at a local junkyard. It worked so well that I had to put in a hotter thermostat.
A universal 12V electric fan can be had for about $50 to $100 at auto parts stores. I don't have access to one so I can't even guess their current draw.
Presumably some sort of ancient bacteria. With this in mind, they'll probably find primitive 386s on Mars in 20 years...
Would that be the the 386dx with the 32bit bus or the SX with a 16bit bus?
If you sunk $150 into the old hardware and upgraded it to new, you'd have a quicker machine and wouldn't have to sacrifice functionality and features just to get that old dinosaur PIII to crawl from its own ashes again.
Assuming you have the cash, skill, time, and a desktop then yes. $150 could easily get you into an amd 1700+ cpu, motherboard, and 256megs of memory.
But then you have this old dinosaur PIII motherboard laying about. What happens to it esp after you decide to upgrade the hard drive and video?
A more Eco-friendly solution would be to slap your spare parts in a case and sell / donate / give it to someone else, and now we are back to square one, still having an old clunker in need of an operating system.
The whole point of making users "activate" a new installation of Windows is to discourage the use or distribution of pirated copies. It didn't really work. The honest people stayed honest, but were inconvenienced. And the pirates kept pirating.
I don't believe it was ever designed to be a very effect means of combating the majority of piracy. It's better suited to combating casual piracy.
Let's say for example you bought a New PC. But you also have this old PC as well. So you decide since you already *bought* XP there would be no harm in putting it on your old computer that's presently running 95/98/ME. Given the low cost of new PCs, it's not really worth it to spend $100 on an upgrade version of XP esp on machines made pre 2000.
The licensing program did a very good job preventing casual piracy. Whether or not these quasi-legit people actually decided to buy another copy of windows is not known to me. It's very possible that Microsoft spent more money employing a staff to answer license related questions then they could possibly make selling disks at $100/pop.
I don't know if I have a point
I'll make the point painfully clear. Microsoft created a program of license verification that punishes the legit users by attempting to weed out the quasi-legit users, where blatant piracy is the only means to by-pass the red tape and have a working product.
Does it? A pirated copy of Windows still has exactly the same code as a genuine one. How can MS say that genuine software is more reliable?
What is the lifespan of a home burned disk? What is the life span of a pressed disk?
However, if your CDs end up on the floor and you run your chair over them it doesn't make much of a diffrence either way.