Ah, here was the link I was looking for. After Solaris 10 NIS+ is gone. This may not affect your ideal environment, but implementing a login infrastructure that will be going away soon enough seems a bit premature.
If sun is done with it, don't expect it to stick around long in commercial os's. Linux support could stick around longer, but again, if nobody else is using it, why should Linux?
You clearly haven't used NIS+, or at least seen the horror of solaris, hpux, and aix all in the same network.
Automount works for LDAP with rfc2307 which basically reproduces the NIS maps in LDAP. Support for this is pretty good on recent Unixes. AIX is a bear before 5.3, and Solaris uses a draft version just to be annoying. Linux uses the release version though.
And you know you can use LDAP as a name service in addition to dns. Why do you want to use NIS for host lookup? This is what dns is meant for. NIS also doesn't provide very secure authentication mechanisms. LDAP and Kerberos are a much better login infrastructure. You are still also depending on RPC communications if you use either.
And automount is a bit of a hack, I have only had problems with it on both Solaris and Linux. AFS has a much better mechanism to performing this. Link/foo/bar to/afs/site.tld/foo/bar and always ensure/afs is up. This combined with kerberos keys as an acl mechanism is much, much better. It makes daemons that need to write constantly a bit more of a pain because of the ticket renewal, but nothing too bad.
Which is better than having your cd to/foo/bar time out because automount is being braindead again today.
Using a nis autofs schema in LDAP isn't much better, but it helps. And this setup *was* in a heterogenous network, windows wasn't a part, but we didn't consider it a big deal.
But yet in any PC vs Mac price wars no one mentions this.
This is known as entrenchment. You have bought into an existing model. Switching to a new model will cost more because of incompatibilities.
This is no different than if I buy a WRX STI to replace my WRX. Guess what? Most all of my tires and rims, eg winter and summer will be worthless. The tires are all 15" on the WRX and 17" on the STI. Is this a cost? Yes, but it is nonsensical to factor in the cost of accessories. They are after all optional. The cost being compared here is the cost of the base components.
The better choice is to look for replacements now with the eye for interoperability in the future. Find replacements that will work with both and then consider the cost to move to a mac. Or replace outright, it is an option. Keep in mind this is what I did for my equipment before I bought my mac. I will probably do the same when I get the STI. Although that will be a complete replacement.:)
Not even unix admins want NIS or even worse NIS+ aka: The Phantom Menace of network login infrastructure. MS not including this is a good thing! Hell even Sun provides migration tools off of NIS.
If anyone is wondering why NIS sucks, be happy and move on. Don't worry about it. Keep your sanity.
I browse the net off my phone and through it quite often. It is only edge yeah, but 30k/s to 20k/s is more than fast enough for my needs when I am mobile.
Works for ssh too, vnc is a pain, but doable.
Downloading iso images would be a pain, but I doubt you would be doing that on the phone. Through it perhaps, but reality is most people that aren't geeks won't care about 3g.
Don't believe me on the 3g thing? Go ask a 10 random people in the mall if a phone lacking 3g will be a deal breaker to buying the phone.
Tell me how many know what the hell you just asked.
I am guessing the theory was that if they broke it up that more people would come back to read it. More pageviews = more ad revenue?
God I hope not, the "news" with 5 pages of 2 paragraphs each is bad enough as it is. Now if the news sources think that spacing the article out over time will help, we can pretty much kiss the usefulness of the web goodbye.
This pretty much guarantees I will not be reading anything from linux.com now.
Does she know if the update has the triangle with a circle on it it means a reboot will be needed?
You still get prompted after installation to shutdown or reboot. She might have hit the blue button instinctively. When I applied the update it was like any other, only 30 meg or so.
Copyright has a cost correct? So lets fix the perpetual part and make it easy for anyone to get copyright. How? Simple. $2^N With N being the year of copyright.
Copyright for year one costs $2. For year 2 it is 2^2 == $4.
Eventually this will flush out works that are not worth the amount they are at. Even Walt Disney would have to look twice after the 26th year.
This also gets things into the public domain on a timely basis. And hopefully compels people to create new things. Not sit on one thing forever. That is what copyright is for, not to forever be a property of the author.
Actually this general trend has come up in my circle of friends. Yes most are IT geeks, but not all by a long shot. But the anecdotal evidence is this: In general women outside the US seem to have less of a desire for a power struggle to "one up" themselves above men. This seems to lead to having a more successful relationships since there is less competition to be the person in power.
Note I am not trying to say the guy should be the one in power in the relationship. Just that if both parties go in expecting equality instead of trying to gain the upper hand things turn out better.
I personally have had much more fulfilling relationships with women born outside of the US. The ones from within the US all tended to be far too materialistic and wanting to either change me personally or to want to dictate how the relationship progressed on their own.
Does anyone else see this happening? Or is this just a stupid midwestern thing? My east coast buddies say to just come to Miami and I will get married in a heartbeat. For my circle of friends the general consensus is that American women aren't worth pursuing. My oldest friend says it is because of the "trade up" culture we have here. Marry the best model guy you can at the time, wait and shop around for a better model and then trade in the current guy and move on.
I just find the phrase "testosterone poisoning" highly spurious at best. What is the amount, or can testosterone even poison us? I imagine it would take very high doses, but doubt our own bodies could produce such quantities.
ps: Glad I am learning some Portuguese based on your post. Of course I also found that French and German women don't seem to have the odd dating habits that Americans do. Mod me down, I have karma to burn. (Testosterone poisoning side effect #2?:D )
This is only saying that of the 1000 years of data, this is the highest we have seen it.
Right now we can't say much more than that. Correlating this data with global warming is very spurious. We know much more about earth's climate than the sun and would be making a large leap given the limited amount of data.
We can't really make much of this until we get more data. That will be a long time in coming. Assuming we don't kill each other before then.
I thought for sure that the D language was at least 25 years old and built way back when. Then about 2 years ago Solaris 10 came out with dtrace and all of the "scripts" have.d extensions. Yeah I know it is unix and the extensions are meaningless.
But the disambiguation page on wikipedia seems to bear out that calling a programming language D will only be interesting. Anyone know if it is trademarked yet?
On my Macbook Pro with an external usb2 device, I go and copy a partition from my main to the external drive. Reboot and hold the option key, then I click on the external usb partition/disk I want and voila.
While usb isn't as fast for sustained transfers, this makes for easy backup/repartitions. Which since I have leopard and no dual layer dvd burner helps a ton.
Remember the first rule of computers, Try it, it just might work.
The macbook pro is basically a pc after all, and those have been booting off of usb for a while.
If this had been announced before the Bourne movies, yes. Afterwards, no. Matt Damon has really shown better acting ability than Shatner ever did. Besides, do you really expect any one actor to lift up the pile of crap this movie is bound to be since Berman is coming up with it?
Just put Keanu in as a younger Scotty and pick some other annoying actors like Tom Cruise as an admiral or something and make it the Star Trek version of self mockery. At least then we will know Berman has a sense of humor. If not much else.
Well with your weird example, here is what I would use (not really because it violates lots of say what you mean rules).
ruby -e 'puts 0 ? 0 : "not zero"'
Have to take out the warnings because you are doing something weird. You do know that ONLY false, 1, and nil derive to a failing condition right?
I like perl too, but your example isn't hard to come up with an equivalent. If you mean ruby can't do as many one liners from the command line, you are wrong there too.
How is this secure? Any mozilla/firefox url exploit makes this an easy target. Was interested until I hit that. Not really interested in recompiling their stupid design decision.
Because getting OFF earth is the best first step to cleaning it up. Think about it. Move all the polluting things off planet and make Earth for living things not machines.
1. ruby (manipulating files is easier than perl, yeah, every other admin hates me for it) 2. vi (emacs has more 3 finger salutes than a windows box with bad memory) 3. perl (I am not a bigot, best tool for the job) 4. ksh (for when you need a sh type script, this is the most portable) 5. ls, sort, uniq, cut, wc, ps, etc.... 6. zsh (the last shell you will ever need, even bash does not compare) 7. screen (soooo handy when you need to patch boxes at 3 am, set things up so you hit enter and then go to sleep while your boxes patch) 8. cfengine (have more than 5 boxes? you need this, you just don't realize it yet) 9. guinness (you aren't an admin without a good ale or beer) 10. white russians (when the guinness fails)
Actually the solaris developers are planning on integrating xen into solaris and zones. So you could run a Linux zone that doesn't even know that solaris is running. Or, if you felt so inclined, another Solaris instance.
Which would completely rock. I already love zfs in opensolaris, the ability to install a linux distro into a zone with xen would make me super happy.
Then I can get gentoo and solaris all in one. (don't argue about why I want Solaris to be the master domain, it is personal preference. mainly because I could snapshot the linux zone using zfs and have a very easy way to back up/rollback, my mind boggles with the possibilites)
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Sun site doc on nis+ EOL
If sun is done with it, don't expect it to stick around long in commercial os's. Linux support could stick around longer, but again, if nobody else is using it, why should Linux?
You clearly haven't used NIS+, or at least seen the horror of solaris, hpux, and aix all in the same network.
/foo/bar to /afs/site.tld/foo/bar and always ensure /afs is up. This combined with kerberos keys as an acl mechanism is much, much better. It makes daemons that need to write constantly a bit more of a pain because of the ticket renewal, but nothing too bad.
/foo/bar time out because automount is being braindead again today.
Automount works for LDAP with rfc2307 which basically reproduces the NIS maps in LDAP. Support for this is pretty good on recent Unixes. AIX is a bear before 5.3, and Solaris uses a draft version just to be annoying. Linux uses the release version though.
And you know you can use LDAP as a name service in addition to dns. Why do you want to use NIS for host lookup? This is what dns is meant for. NIS also doesn't provide very secure authentication mechanisms. LDAP and Kerberos are a much better login infrastructure. You are still also depending on RPC communications if you use either.
And automount is a bit of a hack, I have only had problems with it on both Solaris and Linux. AFS has a much better mechanism to performing this. Link
Which is better than having your cd to
Using a nis autofs schema in LDAP isn't much better, but it helps. And this setup *was* in a heterogenous network, windows wasn't a part, but we didn't consider it a big deal.
Good luck with NIS though!
This is known as entrenchment. You have bought into an existing model. Switching to a new model will cost more because of incompatibilities.
This is no different than if I buy a WRX STI to replace my WRX. Guess what? Most all of my tires and rims, eg winter and summer will be worthless. The tires are all 15" on the WRX and 17" on the STI. Is this a cost? Yes, but it is nonsensical to factor in the cost of accessories. They are after all optional. The cost being compared here is the cost of the base components.
The better choice is to look for replacements now with the eye for interoperability in the future. Find replacements that will work with both and then consider the cost to move to a mac. Or replace outright, it is an option. Keep in mind this is what I did for my equipment before I bought my mac. I will probably do the same when I get the STI. Although that will be a complete replacement.
Not even unix admins want NIS or even worse NIS+ aka: The Phantom Menace of network login infrastructure. MS not including this is a good thing! Hell even Sun provides migration tools off of NIS.
If anyone is wondering why NIS sucks, be happy and move on. Don't worry about it. Keep your sanity.
I browse the net off my phone and through it quite often. It is only edge yeah, but 30k/s to 20k/s is more than fast enough for my needs when I am mobile.
Works for ssh too, vnc is a pain, but doable.
Downloading iso images would be a pain, but I doubt you would be doing that on the phone. Through it perhaps, but reality is most people that aren't geeks won't care about 3g.
Don't believe me on the 3g thing? Go ask a 10 random people in the mall if a phone lacking 3g will be a deal breaker to buying the phone.
Tell me how many know what the hell you just asked.
I am guessing the theory was that if they broke it up that more people would come back to read it. More pageviews = more ad revenue?
God I hope not, the "news" with 5 pages of 2 paragraphs each is bad enough as it is. Now if the news sources think that spacing the article out over time will help, we can pretty much kiss the usefulness of the web goodbye.
This pretty much guarantees I will not be reading anything from linux.com now.
Does she know if the update has the triangle with a circle on it it means a reboot will be needed?
You still get prompted after installation to shutdown or reboot. She might have hit the blue button instinctively. When I applied the update it was like any other, only 30 meg or so.
How about we do this:
Copyright has a cost correct? So lets fix the perpetual part and make it easy for anyone to get copyright. How? Simple. $2^N With N being the year of copyright.
Copyright for year one costs $2.
For year 2 it is 2^2 == $4.
Eventually this will flush out works that are not worth the amount they are at. Even Walt Disney would have to look twice after the 26th year.
This also gets things into the public domain on a timely basis. And hopefully compels people to create new things. Not sit on one thing forever. That is what copyright is for, not to forever be a property of the author.
I mean really, until I can say to my computer things like:
/dev/audio on the neighbors computer. What use will it be?
u ter() == true) then /music -type f -name \"*trent*reznor*\" | xargs -t cat - | ssh hackeduser@neighborcomputer \"cat - > /dev/audio\"");
Find all mp3's that were created by Trent Reznor and pipe them to
I can't program in it can I?
if(i_can_write_code_I_mean_speak_code_to_the_comp
i_might_use_it_a_bit();
else
system("find
endif
But that is just me.
Actually this general trend has come up in my circle of friends. Yes most are IT geeks, but not all by a long shot. But the anecdotal evidence is this: In general women outside the US seem to have less of a desire for a power struggle to "one up" themselves above men. This seems to lead to having a more successful relationships since there is less competition to be the person in power.
:D )
Note I am not trying to say the guy should be the one in power in the relationship. Just that if both parties go in expecting equality instead of trying to gain the upper hand things turn out better.
I personally have had much more fulfilling relationships with women born outside of the US. The ones from within the US all tended to be far too materialistic and wanting to either change me personally or to want to dictate how the relationship progressed on their own.
Does anyone else see this happening? Or is this just a stupid midwestern thing? My east coast buddies say to just come to Miami and I will get married in a heartbeat. For my circle of friends the general consensus is that American women aren't worth pursuing. My oldest friend says it is because of the "trade up" culture we have here. Marry the best model guy you can at the time, wait and shop around for a better model and then trade in the current guy and move on.
I just find the phrase "testosterone poisoning" highly spurious at best. What is the amount, or can testosterone even poison us? I imagine it would take very high doses, but doubt our own bodies could produce such quantities.
ps: Glad I am learning some Portuguese based on your post. Of course I also found that French and German women don't seem to have the odd dating habits that Americans do. Mod me down, I have karma to burn. (Testosterone poisoning side effect #2?
You forgot to add: Get off my lawn you dang kids!
This is only saying that of the 1000 years of data, this is the highest we have seen it.
Right now we can't say much more than that. Correlating this data with global warming is very spurious. We know much more about earth's climate than the sun and would be making a large leap given the limited amount of data.
We can't really make much of this until we get more data. That will be a long time in coming. Assuming we don't kill each other before then.
I thought for sure that the D language was at least 25 years old and built way back when. Then about 2 years ago Solaris 10 came out with dtrace and all of the "scripts" have .d extensions. Yeah I know it is unix and the extensions are meaningless.
Dtrace user guide
But the disambiguation page on wikipedia seems to bear out that calling a programming language D will only be interesting. Anyone know if it is trademarked yet?
Go read Phreakiture's post just one post above the one you are replying to. In short, nobody wants them, and there is extra cost.
You don't really believe that it hasn't been done because it can't be done do you?
Where I work the laptops all have 2g.
And so does my mac mini (it was a signing bonus, I was shocked when they agreed to it).
So yeah, hit or miss depending on corporation.
You realise you can do this now right?
On my Macbook Pro with an external usb2 device, I go and copy a partition from my main to the external drive. Reboot and hold the option key, then I click on the external usb partition/disk I want and voila.
While usb isn't as fast for sustained transfers, this makes for easy backup/repartitions. Which since I have leopard and no dual layer dvd burner helps a ton.
Remember the first rule of computers, Try it, it just might work.
The macbook pro is basically a pc after all, and those have been booting off of usb for a while.
Just thought you might want to know.
Really? Tell that to IBM. They seem to be using it for more than consoles. They have servers, embedded systems and more.
If this had been announced before the Bourne movies, yes. Afterwards, no. Matt Damon has really shown better acting ability than Shatner ever did. Besides, do you really expect any one actor to lift up the pile of crap this movie is bound to be since Berman is coming up with it?
Just put Keanu in as a younger Scotty and pick some other annoying actors like Tom Cruise as an admiral or something and make it the Star Trek version of self mockery. At least then we will know Berman has a sense of humor. If not much else.
Well with your weird example, here is what I would use (not really because it violates lots of say what you mean rules).
ruby -e 'puts 0 ? 0 : "not zero"'
Have to take out the warnings because you are doing something weird. You do know that ONLY false, 1, and nil derive to a failing condition right?
I like perl too, but your example isn't hard to come up with an equivalent. If you mean ruby can't do as many one liners from the command line, you are wrong there too.
Anyway I need food.
How is this secure? Any mozilla/firefox url exploit makes this an easy target. Was interested until I hit that. Not really interested in recompiling their stupid design decision.
Because getting OFF earth is the best first step to cleaning it up. Think about it. Move all the polluting things off planet and make Earth for living things not machines.
1. ruby (manipulating files is easier than perl, yeah, every other admin hates me for it)
:)
2. vi (emacs has more 3 finger salutes than a windows box with bad memory)
3. perl (I am not a bigot, best tool for the job)
4. ksh (for when you need a sh type script, this is the most portable)
5. ls, sort, uniq, cut, wc, ps, etc....
6. zsh (the last shell you will ever need, even bash does not compare)
7. screen (soooo handy when you need to patch boxes at 3 am, set things up so you hit enter and then go to sleep while your boxes patch)
8. cfengine (have more than 5 boxes? you need this, you just don't realize it yet)
9. guinness (you aren't an admin without a good ale or beer)
10. white russians (when the guinness fails)
11. a bat (keeps the users away
Talk to Kevin Federline if you want then. We don't need him, you can keep him. (seriously, popoa zao? guy needs to be beaten)
Actually the solaris developers are planning on integrating xen into solaris and zones. So you could run a Linux zone that doesn't even know that solaris is running. Or, if you felt so inclined, another Solaris instance.
Which would completely rock. I already love zfs in opensolaris, the ability to install a linux distro into a zone with xen would make me super happy.
Then I can get gentoo and solaris all in one. (don't argue about why I want Solaris to be the master domain, it is personal preference. mainly because I could snapshot the linux zone using zfs and have a very easy way to back up/rollback, my mind boggles with the possibilites)
Sorry, resume your disorder.
If you have read it you know why. I would love a properly adapted movie version of this book.