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Matt Damon as Kirk in Star Trek XI?
GiggidyGiggidy writes "Our friends at IMDB.com are reporting that Matt Damon has been cast to play a young James T. Kirk in the new Star Trek Movie directed by J.J. Abrams. Is this the end of the Star Trek series we fans know and love, or the beginning of something bigger and better for the series?"
Other casting???
honestly, isn't it time for a real good laugh at this tired old series?
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Kevin Smith as Spock
Jason Mewes as Scotty
Ben Affleck as Bones
Ophrah Winfree as Uhura
John Cho is Sulu
Yakov Smirnoff as Chekov
Imagine the dialoge.
Obi-Wan Kenobi looks pained.
Luke: What's wrong?
Obi-Wan: I felt a great disturbance in The Force, as if millions of voices cried out in terror. I fear something terrible has happened.
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What on eart are they thinking?
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Matt Damon.
You can't handle the truth.
I just read a few weeks ago about Damon being discussed as Kirk for JMS's now-gone Star Trek project. I thought it sounded like a good idea, and (for better or worse) the Shat himself approved of the choice.
Now they need to sign Gary Sinise as McCoy. Hopefully, they can keep Affleck out. He has the superficial look and the emotionless demeanor necessary for Spock, but brings nothing else.
Where were you when the voynix came?
I thought what a terrible idea, but he has acted well in both action movies (bourne idenity) and drama movies (the talented mr. Ripley). As young Kirk I think he would do really well.
All they had him say was "My crew, my ship." and he got the part.
The end already happened when star trek enterprise was released.
I really don't care that it was Matt Damon. He's proven that he can at least do some acting but here's the thing. Enterprise failed because it was too Hollywood. Was it season 3 when they were in the void? What a horrible season because you could tell marketing had a big checklist for all the various "demographics" it was meant to appeal to. The last season finally figure out that a good storyline and real character development is what drives a show. They had already been canceled though and didn't even know it. What a tease! Back to the main point... if matt damon was chosen because he's a famous celebrity this movie is already doomed.
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Matt Damon can look young, yes, but he's 35 -- as old as Shatner was when he started playing Kirk originally! If Damon is supposed to be younger Kirk in his Academy days... I dunno, it just doesn't work for me.
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Matt Damon: Matt Damon, Matt Damon
So I've got mixed feelings:
::sigh::
Beam me down:
IMHO, Matt Damon has become so typecast that he plays the same character in every movie. I don't think he's changed his style in any role from Mr. Ripley, Mr. Bourne, Mr. Loki, Mr. Hunting, and Private Ryan. Matt Damon fans can argue till they're blue in the face, but I just cannot see him joining the ranks of George Takei, Leonard Nimoy, and Patrick Stewart. What next, playing the role of Lance Armstrong?
Beam me up:
So Matt Damon will always be Matt Damon. So what? William Shatner will always be William Shatner and its worked for him! Now the question remains: will Matt Damon be able to follow the framework of Mr. Shatner's drawn-out, studdering, overacting character? Lets go to the footage!
William Shatner [Star Trek]: You.... killed my... son... you... Klingon... bastard
Matt Damon [Team America]: Maaaaatt Daaaamon
Maybe Damon will make an excellent Kirk. Besides, this being an odd-numbered Star Trek movie, it has every right to be a steaming heap of Ferengi dung and still keep the movies going strong. So maybe I should just watch the previews, eat my popcorn, take a nap, and wait for the sequel.
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" What a horrible season because you could tell marketing had a big checklist for all the various "demographics" it was meant to appeal to"
As a member of the group of Americans descended from buzzy-voiced giant bugs, I'm really glad that "Enterprise" gave proper attention to diversity and made sure to include my people among the Xindi species. My cousin who is married to someone descended from sloths agrees.
Where were you when the voynix came?
Bigger? Better? That's a joke, right?
Ever since the middle of Voyager, Rick Berman and Brannon Braga have been trying to "Fix" Star Trek. Make it hipper and more appealing to other audiences. Apparently they'd never heard of the phrase "if it ain't broke, don't fix it". Enterprise singlehandedly ruined one of the biggest Sci-Fi franchises in history. I think most fans would agree that Trek needs some serious time to lie fallow and grow new grassroots fandom.
Instead, someone has chosen to haul the still fresh corpse out of the closet, slap a thin veneer of shiny new paint on it and try to whore it to audiences who just finished vomiting up their disgust for Enterprise. Continually, I can't fathom why the people in control of Star Trek can't understand what they're doing wrong. Just let it lie for a bit... PLEASE.
P.S. - "MAAAAT DAAAAAIMON!"
How dare someone defile Shatner's amazing theatrical work with the sad case that is Matt Damon?
What's next, Steve Buschemi as McCoy?
"Maatt Daaammonn"!
My mom always said, "Jim, you're 1 in a million." Given the current population, there are 7000 of me. God help us all!
Damon would seem to me to be fine as Kirk. But casting Spock is the hard part. Not many people have been able to play Vulcans that aren't boring as hell.
How about.... them.... apples?
Maybe he won't be such a good choice after all if they are looking for an actor more like Shatner?
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I mean seriosly, this was not the direction that the next movie even needed to go, what part of abysmall failure did they not pick up from the enterprise series, unlike star wars, Star Trek doesn't make money when going backwardcs, what ever happened to the idea of oh I don't know a ship that not only made sence, but something with emotion, how about a story about an akira class starship with an unkown crew in the dominon war? how about a series about the aftermath of the enterprise/romulan encoutner, something to shed some light on the worst cliff hanger ever, something to pick up what has so clearly been left off. Star trek doesn't need to go backwards, they need to do what they have always been good at, movies for action, and series for science and ethics they keep to that motto and they will get somewhere, they also need to stop playing with the timeline that is established as cannon, and just add on to it rather than confuse it
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just my thoughts
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IMDB is rarely ever accurate until after a movie is released. They'll put anything up! Some Spider-Man 3 fan even submitted his own synopsis and had it posted to prove this. Aunt May was listed as Carnage for a while too..
The idea was born here. I mentioned reusing Kirk and Spock.
It would be nice if the producer would acknowledge it.
Go ahead and slam me.
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Star Trek has jumped the shark so many times that it's pocked with teeth marks. So...at this point, with the dismal failure of the "Enterprise" TV series, pretty much anything is worth a shot. Even Matt Damon can't make it any worse than it already has been.
Now, if they also bring in Ben Affleck, we know the series is forever ruined. Please, please, please...no BenFleck!
Dammit, i was so hoping for Vin Diesel for that role :(
I mean could Matt Damon possibly live up to William Shatner's dominant acting talent?
Matt, Ben, . I'm hoping that Abrams can give us the story. I've liked his TV so here's hoping.
To me, Star Trek is a joke. Something I remember from my childhood. Camp clothing, poor acting (especially Shatner), predictable plots. I liked it - but for probably all the wrong reasons!
It doesn't have to be this way. I also loved the cheesy 60s Batman film with the rubber shark and everything, and it took Batman Begins to take the Batman character seriously. If this Star Trek film is done properly, with proper actors instead of all those old people, and with a modern sensibility, it could be a pretty good trilogy...uh, I mean film.
The future leading edge of "Star Trek" looked terrible, as shown in Voyager and elsewhere. Spaceships that look like women's shower razors, bald little doctors holo'ing themselves all over the place, that damn Barclay they can't seem to get rid of, and Time Trek crews that have nothing to do other than curse about Kirk.... They wrecked the future, so they figured it was time to wreck the past and give us "Enterprise".
"they also need to stop playing with the timeline that is established as cannon"
Are you referring to a weapon that fires chroniton particles through the timeline?
Where were you when the voynix came?
noonelistens.
Sulu: Sir, I'm detecting a klingon vessel.
Kirk: Again with the Klingons!
Taking all bets on how long it will be until Abram's mutilated corpse turns up.
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Affleck would make a great Spock... I just want to see Ewen Bremmner (Spud from Trainspotting) as Scotty... that would be cool.
After watching Matt Damon's performance in "Team America: World Police", I don't think that he's up to the task. He just has to project himself more effectively on screen.
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Maybe we could learn a bit more about JT Kirk. His horse, his live on the farm.
Maybe...
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Let it be, if you mess with it it'll stink even worse.
Only an over the top putz like Shatner could play Kirk!
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Given what Rick Berman had managed to do with the franchise between Voyager, Enterprise, and the last several movies, it would be pretty hard for Star Trek to get any worse. Unless Abrams goes completely insane and makes it into a soft-core porn flick about Matt Damon and space unicorns, this will probably be better than anything we'd be getting if the same old crew kept cranking out movies.
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Matt Damon will be much better than MacCauley Culkin.
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With just little bit more plastic surgery Shatner can play that role himself...
Then maybe he can mind meld with Matt and get some acting skills......
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Ever since the middle of Voyager,
;).
You've got to be kidding me. The Star Trek franchise start to suck towards the end of STNG. It's when they started focusing episodes on characters and relationships instead of plots and action. They had some pretty fucking cool episodes in that series, but then they started polluting it with shit like Counselor Boobies getting hot with Cmdr Riker, and Dr. Fucking Crusher consoling her whiney little bitch son (hi CleverNickName!
DS9 was a total daytime soap snoozefest. I mean look at the premise -- they were on a space station that didn't even move, so they couldn't go anywhere cool! Very little action, all relationship crap. If I wanted that, I'd watch damn Days Of Our Lives. At least people get shot on that show once in awhile.
I gave up on DS9 after the first few episodes and never looked back. Didn't watch more than a few minutes of Voyager. Not worth wasting my life on!
Enterprise sounded intriguing, but they compromised the whole integrity of the thing by making it look much more modern than TOS. WTF? They should have gone back to the cardboard box sets with the huge blinkenlights to make it look even shittier than TOS, because you know, it was earlier and stuff. Continuity, shmontinuity I guess. So I said fuck that shit, too.
Hey, if Matt Damon can breathe some life back into this franchise, then that's cool with me. From what I've read, those "in the know" agree that Matt's smart and can act, it's his butt-buddy Bennifleck that's a total no-talent loser moron. Not that TOS cast were any good at acting, but it had a sort of integrity to it -- knowing that it was campy without going over the top or trying to be too serious either -- that Assfleck would surely fuck up.
how do you get that the performance of a cartoon watching, homicidal angel is the same as an amnesiac cia operative?
im just a wee bit confused here
"With just little bit more plastic surgery Shatner can play that role himself..."
Easily explained. He's played by Shatner, but he's really James T Kirk at age 19. He looks awfully old because that "Deadly Years" virus has had another outbreak. The bloated appearance is because he took part in a fraternity stunt and swallowed a live tribble (which has since bred many new generations his belly, throat, and cheeks). That awful complexion? From an unfortunate amorous encounter with a cute Horta co-ed. The pauses...in...his...speech? He's really a native Rigelian speaker, his his universal translator is on the fritz.
Where were you when the voynix came?
I thought it would have been cool to have the on going adventures of Capt Sulu and the Excelseor, until he came out of the closet.........
Dude, Uhura was a BABE! Winfrey is as butt-ugly as she was before she lost 400 pounds and she's STILL fat and ugly!
Time for you to see your eye doctor. Or your shrink.
Gene Roddenberry just rolled over in the grave.......AGAIN!!!!!!
Can someone PLEASE get me the beerbong!!! I've got to speak to the seven out of ten!
Except for the final couple of seasons. Then it sucked.
... but in space. With the foam head of the month "alien".
And TOS was damn good when it was released. It doesn't look that as cutting edge now, because the edge has moved on.
The problem is that the Star Trek franchise has not kept up with the edge. Now they're afraid of the edge. They don't want to make a show that small core will love for years and years and years. They want a show that almost everyone will sort of like and probably watch every week. They want "Friends"
They want "episodes", not stories.
They want light, cute actors, not developed characters.
"Pat Benatar lookalikes and a naked Pheobe Cates to have a very watchable movie"
Make the Benetars (Benetari?) naked, and have them outnumbered by the Cates', and I am so in line rightnow.
Where were you when the voynix came?
Isn't IMDB known for having the wrong information?
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I know William Shatner has never been exactly what one would call a great actor, but at least there's something about his personality that's somehow likable---like he knows how to laugh at himself. Matt Damon doesn't have anything going for him other than that he's a ``cute guy''. Ick! How is that supposed to appeal to the mostly male geek audience that's the fan base for Star Trek?
Young Kirk is a janitor at the Academy when he
surreptitiously starts posting solutions to
seemingly hopeless, extra credit, battle
simulations...
Nah, maybe not.
I've already got my personally accepted spinoff continuation of the original "Star Trek," and it's written, produced, and acted by real fans with talent. Those guys produce winning, pro-grade Star Trek while Paramount has displayed a complete lack of knowing what the hell to do with it.
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Actors die.
A classic series always lives on in reruns.
Then it's a bad idea.
Otherwise it *might* be OK. Ben Affleck would definitely be a negative. Even as a redshirt who got killed in the first scene. Would ruin it.
They're finally killing the franchise.
Nobody will give a shit about star trek after this.
If you're looking for a nice solid wood Spock, there is only The One choice: Keanu.
Affleck has nothing on Little Buddha.
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Just wait till they can use digital replicas. Get the living old cast to do their voices.
The Star Trek franchise start to suck towards the end of STNG. It's when they started focusing episodes on characters and relationships instead of plots and action. They had some pretty fucking cool episodes in that series, but then they started polluting it with shit like Counselor Boobies getting hot with Cmdr Riker, and Dr. Fucking Crusher consoling her whiney little bitch son (hi CleverNickName! ;). That no-talent hack Whoopi-pie Goldberg (she's Jewish? WTF?) really screwed things up with all those damn touchy-feely advice-giving bar scenes. The bar on the Enterprise should have been used for one thing and one thing only: bar fights. With phasers. Even badass Captain Picard was reduced to a wussy caring father figure by the end of that series, instead of the ass-kicking name-taking git-r-done no-nonsense kickass dude that he was supposed to be. Just pathetic.
Q: "Mr Shatner, is this the end of the Star Trek series we fans know and love, or the beginning of something bigger and better for the series?"
A: "Yes. It. Is."
Let's see. Star Trek will no doubt want to win the special effects arms race, so I'm betting the box office take minus cost of production divided by the amount of days in production will reach warp one - over $186,000 bucks a second. :)
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It didn't fail because it was "too Hollywood". It failed because of bad writing. After putting up with the POS that was Voyager for a few years (which decimated the good faith of fans), Enterprise just wasn't good enough. In other words, Star Trek was played out for general audience, and so the writing needed to be more clever, interesting, and entertaining.
No roles have been confirmed for Star Trek XI, nor is there any credible information definitely pointing to any actor or actress in any part in the movie. There have been a number of rumors and some well-sourced speculation, however. - Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek_XI#Cast
o -imdb-entry-for-trek.html
There's also this. http://stxi.blogspot.com/2006/07/taking-red-pen-t
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I, for one, think that it's about time to move on from the Shatner / Nimoy combo. After all, the only end result of sticking with those two for playing Kirk and Spock is a movie about geriatrics (sp?).
I think www.newvoyages.com is probably where paramount should look for guidance. They've cast all new (and pretty much unknown) actors for the roles. Take a look at the episodes, the story lines, IMO, are on par with the original series. Sure the acting and special effects are a little shotty, but overall, that's the best ST story lines I've seen since TNG.
Bottom line: If Star Trek wants to continue with the Kirk / Spock story lines, we need to realize that they're characters, and not the actors, that we like.
... except with snakes! Yeah, throw some mother-fucking space-snakes on the Enterprise, plus, say, a cameo from Yoda and maybe Jack Black as an out-of-shape Han Solo.
An A-list Star Trek comedy would be the greatest thing ever.
ENDUT! HOCH HECH!
Yes, clearly you were the first to ever have that idea... *SLAM*
/. about 10 or 15 years ago. In that case - Good thinking!
Unless you mean you first posted the idea on
I read that this film is supposed to take place 160 years before
the first series.
I only hope that it has a decent plot. But why not start over with
a new ship and new crew? Why does it have to be Kirk & co.?
And who the hell is Matt Damon?
Matt....... Daaaaamon
*FANT - From A Non-Trekkie
I have never liked Star Trek, as it felt too much mired in the time period it was created
(The whole Klingon=USSR/Federation=USA doesnt work for someone who never had to deal with the Cold War)
In terms of Matt's acting ability, I think he is quite good, and certainly much better than Shatner (LUCY in THE...sky....WITH...diamonds).
So, I for one, welcome our new hip Star Trek overlords.
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Honestly, do you think the Star Trek franchise will be able to resist going back to the Time Travel well yet again for plot material?
That seemed to be the only damned thing they could think of to base a plot on in the declining years of *every* series...
I just wish Niven's Law would kick in in the Star Trek universe. Sheesh.
cant they come up with NEW characters? with NEW stories, instead of rehashing old characters... I guess it could be worse they could cast Cedric the Entertainer as Ralph Kramden
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Damon, sure, why not. If Kirk get his mission at a convenience store, then the flick's in trouble.
Star Trek could learn a lot from the "Doctor Who" makeover. RTD resurrected Doctor Who and made it rock. I wonder what he'd do with Star Trek. Guess we'll never know...:)
As if TOS didn't go after demographics. We've got Uhura for blacks and women, and Sulu for asians. Nurse Chapel to attract the adolescent males between 10 and 90. And why do you think Chekov looked like the fifth Monkee?
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Star Trek XI, is to take place in Spock and Kirk's academy days. The IMDB credits Demon as playing CAPTAIN James T. Kirk. A cadet can not attain the rank of CAPTAIN in the academy. I therefore conclude that IMDB.com lies.
Nothing against Bill Shatner, but Matt Damon is a much much better actor. After the last ST movie I lost much of my enthusiasm for Star Trek; however, if Damon is really playing Kirk, I'd be first in line to see the next movie. Of course, with Damon we'd miss the more humorous traits of Shatneresque acting. It would be just disturbing to see Damon yelling, "KHAAAAAAAAANNNNNNN!!!!!"
Maybe he won't be such a good choice after all if they are looking for an actor more like Shatner?
Then that could leave only one option: Luke Perry!
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...if they got Johnny Depp to play the villain.
It could be worse. You could be the writers of BSG and actually had to copy Voyager to get your characters.
Wow you're at SFU awesome i toured the Eng dept. a while ago soo freakin' nice, party on dude
Enterprise failed because it was too Hollywood
I wouldn't know; I couldn't make it past the theme song without retching.
I hope I'm wrong, 'cause I'm afraid JJ Abrams is going to push the franchise of edge into a deeeeep deeeeep canyon
Seriously, how can you have anybody BUT Shatner play Kirk?
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Rick Berman and Brannon Braga. These two should be quietly bound, gagged and dropped in the deepest pit you can find.
the future is but past forgotten
I think of all the new star treks, Deep Space 9 was the best by far. It was the only one with a decent set of plotlines. Alas said plotlines do make it less appealing in the UK as a pick up and watch show of an afternoon. Or at least that's the way it seems. Mostly we get stargate and star trek. Even stargate is pushing it a bit because of the ongoing story that had, but they have loads of standalone stories.
and they were't trying to compete with babylon 5 or anything, honest.....
I can't say im one of the very first original trekkie fans. But I can say TNG was my star trek. One of the things i liked about Star Trek is how Gene Rodenberry and the writers would pick topics based loosely on the events of that time. Racism, terrorists, etc etc.
You had several episodes that would reflect on what was happening today on earth, but shot forward 300 years into the future as it was happening again. And usually they had some solution or fake fantasy way of fixing the problem.
The other thing you had was atmosphere and attitude. Remember when a klingon was on main screen or a klingon battle was happening, you had your klingon battle music. You would be surprised how much music changes the immersion and atmosphere. Each race had a distinct style. The thing is here, everyone is talking about character development. But you can't have much character development on first contact, in that 1 episode. But one of the most awesome things about TNG was their first contact episodes. Or even not the first contacts, the first time the race was "showed" like the cardiasians, the ferengi. Both awesome races, you can relate to both of the races as being part of yourself. The races were distinct personality traits, this is what works well, because you can relate to them. Romulans- Reclusive, non trust worthy, secretive. Klingons- Warrior Race, Honor, Combat. To me, each race was a persona of everyone's basic personality, just highly exaggerated.
The races were distinctly clear on their intentions, attitude, and style of life, immediately you could "feel" or "think" of them as they are portrayed.
Take the Borg for example, clearly defined. The Borg invoked emotions from the viewer almost immediately, weather it being COOL!, or OMG CREEPY, or whatever it could be, it did something. even omg thats stupid!, it did something.
In Star Trek, not all, but most of the aliens in had a point to the show, they were relevant to the story and episode.
In a lot of other sci fi movies, they have aliens just for the sake of aliens, no reason to have them, except that the show needs some sort of aliens. And i've had a problem with that. All you get to base what you think about these aliens are, um, it looks weird??? uh. but it acts like a human, so what do i think of it?
Another thing id like to point out is DS9. Ever since it first came out, i always thought DS9 was the star treks version of a soap opera. I couldn't stand it, to me, it had too much character development. It wasn't until the Jem'hidar were introduced i become hooked, and then with the addition of the defiant, it was like about freaking time the federation makes a ship that is for combat.
But to change my topic, i think after gene died, it was just over. I honestly started to hate Rick berman, without even knowing him, i just blamed it on him.
Anyways, i think they are doing it all wrong. What is with this fad to do young superman, young batman, young kirk?
Didn't Enterprise just flop? why are they returning to the same thing? I think they should do post TNG.
the f'n original enterprise is a ICON! they are going to go fubar it up, or make kirks first ship look way cooler and newer than the enterprise. its something that shouldn't be touched.
and btw, Nemesis was CRAP! OMG, i couldn't believe the script. It had so many things that were incorrect, it didn't feel like the star trek writers at all wrote it. Like it was a pitched scrip and rick berman accepted it as the movie.. sigh.
ps sorry for spelling/grammar.
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Others have said this before (though maybe not in this particular thread). What the Star Trek franchise really needs to survive is a major overhaul, of the magnitude of for instance Battlestar Galactica. I'm thinking feature films with Angelina Jolie as captain Kirk or something.
This is old speculation and has already been refuted on startrek.com http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/news/article /19115.html
about halfway down the page
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He's right on the money!
And _that_, alone, is really hard do achieve.
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You've got to be kidding me. DS9 blew. It was easily the worst of the bunch, and that's saying a lot. If I wanted boring relationships and interpersonal conflict, I'd watch a damn soap opera. TNG had some kickass plots - not just mindless action, but actual interesting situations and plots that the characters had to get out of or they'd be wormfood (or more likely, spacedust). But then the relationship crap started creeping in towards the end -- Troi and Guinan and all that shit making it all touch-feely, all boring dialog. Fuck that. I don't want just explosions, I want explosions that mean something. Without all the gossip shit.
DS9 was nonstop soaps.
yes, for some reaon Bacon seems connected to these actors.. I am not sure exactly how.
I don't see how retelling Kirk and Spock can seem like a good idea for a movie to anyone. We've been there and done that.
It seems like there could be a lot of life in having a movie that combines cast members from TNG, DS9 and Voyager. That way they could put the characters up against each other. Seeing Picard and Sisco dutt heads would be good with Worf and O'Brien trapped in the middle might be good. Data (ok B4 or whatever the replacement data was called) Odo and 7of9 compare notes on being around humans. Heck, dredge up Dr. Polaski to stir up stuff. You could also kill some of the minor characters that, while important on their own show, aren't that big (heck, kill all of Voyager!).
And, unlike these throwback shows, you don't have to worry about being true to the future that we've already seen in other series.
I see no advantages to a film about the past where we know that kirk and spock will both live.
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As a child, I'd watch re-runs on a local public station, WVIA, around midnight, end around 1am. I remember waiting in terror, but unable to look away, just waiting to see if the last shot of the credits would have the alien face or not. At one point I must have seen each episode a half dozen times, as I could identify them within a couple seconds of the shows start. Haven't watched one in probably close to 15 years now...
Star Trek XII: Snakes on a starship
The only producer that would ever do that is dead.
Oh wait, wrong generation.
"Do you like Quadrotriticale?"
"Sure."
"I got her communicator frequency. How do you like THAT Quadrotriticale?"
Stop with the Terry Schiavo treatment on this franchise and LET IT DIE!
Kirk is not a captain in the timeframe of this movie. That should be the first indicator that it's just a rumor and has no official backing.
Nice to see another Babylon 5 fan in here, but for those that don't know, "Baywatch meets Wrestling in Space" is how jms described what TNT wanted Crusade to be. He would not allow it to be so, which directly lead to TNT aborting it before it even began its run. See the original CIS post for reference.
(And to appease the topic furies, I find it very difficult to see Matt Damon as Kirk, but then again, The Bourne Identity wasn't half bad, so I'm willing to give him a chance, as long as Berman The Barbarian isn't involved in any way.)
Kirk (drawing his phaser): Phasers on Stun!
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it was a cheesy sci-fi space opera. I like cheesy sci-fi space operas. I like them as a kid, I liked them as a teenager and I like them as an adult. I liked the Lensman books. I like the Gap Cycle books. I like the Uller Uprising books and H Beam Piper. Why the hell does everyone assume that my tastes change just because I'm older? They might get more sophisitcated, but they don't change. I still hate situational comedy and like puns and slapstick. Yeah, Sesame Street's Cookie Monster may not hold my interest anymore, but Groucho Marx does.
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If they're going to "reimagine" Star Trek, they should use the Apple design strategy on all the Enterprise controls and workstations.
The Klingons, of course, would have screens that look like MS Windows and their computers lock up at the worst possible moment.
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As I understand it, TOS used different SciFi writers all the time, for different episodes, and usually created a three-act play. They got the best SciFi writers for their day.
Why not use Joss Whedon as chief writer and use the gang of two to fill in "Star Trek" details and to organize it into three-acts?
My goodness, Firely/Serenity were so good!
Don't skimp on space, ethics, and phaser fire, though....
He's not particularly believable as a human, but as a Vulcan... ...especially for during that period on the Genesis Planet where Spock's body was just an empty shell and his spirit was body-pooling around the galaxy in McCoy's body...Perfect!
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I hate to say this, but I think Matt Damon is a good choice. If you watch some of the earlier TOS episodes, you can see it.
As for Enterprise, there were a few good episodes in season 1 and season 4. I think they got in trouble because a few episodes in season 1 were boring. I don't blame the actors (well blaylock sucked till season 4), and season 4 proved they could hire good writers. There were two idiots running things. The best episodes were the unimportant episodes when the B&B vision didn't need to be explained. I plan on buying season one eventually. I love the first andorian episode and the vulcan ambassador episode. Scott Bakula proved once again he's a great actor even when he gets shitty lines.
I haven't read up on this film, but I do hope they throw in some of the other captains and admirals from TOS. Matt Decker and the pilot captain would be interesting.
What might also work is a movie about some of the other races. I could see fans getting into a klingon or romulan movie. There's a lot they could do with them. A borg origin movie might work as well.
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I read on Wikipedia about bizzaroklingeons, but I don't remember seeing that race. Maybe they're in the new film too! I've heard of slow news days, but this is ridiculous!
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The Star Trek franchise is not exhausted. It is only as exhausted as the people who come up with ideas for it allow it to be. There are PLENTY of ideas that haven't been explored yet - how about something that only tangentially involves Starfleet? Maybe a show about Section 31? Maybe one about life on the frontier of known space?
All that is required is a little imagination. Bring back Ron Moore! Throw Braga down the well!
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Since Michael Piller died last year I doubt he is involved. Piller was actually a decent producer and was not involved with Enterprise or Nemesis and only had minimal involvement in Voyager. I think the Rick Berman co-conspirator you're thinking of is Branon Braga.
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The end? Isn't this already long past the end? The Star Trek franchise has been six feet under for quite a while ...
Matt Damon doesn't have enough 'nads to play lance armstrong.
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Even better than I had imagined it! I mostly thought of him for the role cause he's a good scotsman and plays a wide variety of roles. Really liked him in Match Point.
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Now that you mention it, this could be the best Star Trek ever...
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Begbie would be a better Kirk than Matt Damon or Shatner!
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I think Stephen Snedden has the look for Kirk. God, someone should replace William Shatner already!
It's easy to contrive having Shatner play the young Kirk: http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=193031&cid=158 41491
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DS9 just never got better during the first few seasons, and was easily one of the most boring shows on TV. In the Trek universe, it might only be surpassed by the Wil Crusher TNG season. Thankfully it was saved by the return of mom Beverly and the resulting diminishing of Wil's role - I eagerly and, as it turned out, vainly awaited some exceptionally cool death for Wil. I still have hope in a future movie that will surely come (don't disillusion me;). Back to the soap opera known as DS9, the Klingon war thing looked cool, but I just couldn't get over the irrelevant "personal side bars" that kept interrupting a pretty cool story.
The reason Enterprise sucked started with the theme song, and continued with its ridiculously heavy moralizing "plots". It actually got decent in the end, but by then almost everyone, including me, had lost interest. Now that it's out on DVD, I may get the last couple of seasons and see if the story really was any good. (I tuned back in near the end, and went wow, they improved it - still have that insipid theme song though):.
The cool thing about STTOS was the fact that it addressed a massive void in offerings when it was made. If you look back at the original Twilight Zones, they weren't well acted either, but both are still very watchable none the less. Not many of today's shows can say that. ("Reality TV"? Who's going to watch that in 2 years, much less 10?)
The cesspool just got a check and balance.
Humans + machines == Borg
Humans + alies == Trill
Humans mating with aliens == Spock
Hell, they even have Wesley gaining warp capability.
The Borg are the enemy. All the others are sub to pure humans. They don't have the guts to go with a storyline where the pure humans are sub to transhumans.
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Ok,now I'm mixing movies like a bartender mixes drinks but, damnit! Walken already has the disjointed off-canter speech needed, oh and he can act too. Matt Damon, what do you bring to the table?
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I rest my case.
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They can rebuild it. . .
I have read the first level comments and agree with most of them and I'm too lazy to read the replies. Here's my idea. . . if they want to go back to the past, fill in the gaps. Use Synthespians and recreate it starting at about ST:TMP - When special effects and the ship almost appeared partially modern. One of the challenges about going back in time is that nobody is going to accept an orange rectangle to be a 'data tape.' We want our ships to streak through space, not accelerate with a sound akin to that of an 18-wheeler. Even the Phoenix didn't do that. Unless we want something completely unbelievable, and rediculous, going back in time will mean recreating some of the cannon. Did anyone notice that there were no LCD displays on Kirk's Enterprise? Matt Damon? Fine. Put a Kirk 3D body model on him and use effects to decrease his age. This could be done, and has already been done in other movies where the timeline had to jump from place to place. I'm not going to argue that it just isn't trek without the "real" Kirk and McCoy - there's no point in arguing that when you can have the next best thing. They're not getting any younger, but thanks to the technology we love watching on these shows and movies. . . they could.
Andromeda was originally intended to be about the last Federation starship after the collapse of the Federation. Roddenberry's ideas were turned around a bit because the current keepers of Star Trek didn't want to "destroy" the universe and damage their cash cow.
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If you watch the show, especially the episodes when they were still using one of the writers from Bab 5, you can even see how some of the "Andromeda" aliens mapped to the Star Trek species they were based on.
In short, Roddenberry WANTED to trash the Federation and run the universe from a point of collapse and chaos. What happened was that his notes got used to start a new show, the "Federation" got renamed the "Confederacy" and it was treated to a decent special effects budget and not much else.
If you watch it as a post Federation show, and mentally map some of the alien species to their Trek counterparts, the show actually becomes watchable.
After all, Shatner taught all of us to look beyond the acting.
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Why have a continuing story/scenario. Why not have single hour long stories set in the Star Trek universe. The best science fiction on tv ever was the original Outer Limits. It did well without a continuing cast and story
I have to agree on the "plot device" bit.
Particularly with how Dax was killed by evil ghosts while on a quest to save the Orb of Prophecy so The Emissary could perform the Rite of X and seal the Portal of Y.
They ran out of real story so they tried to stitch in a DnD plot line and they ended up with the standard fantasy cardboard characters.
Just what we need... Kirk with a BAH-stin accent.
Kirk grew up in Iowa, FFS!
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The problem with Star Trek is that the action is the means for the characters to "win". Yeah, that sounds really basic and stupid, but think about it for a moment.
Some naive, young cadet leave Star Fleet Acadamy for his/her first space ship assignment. That character SHOULD have a completely different outlook and personality than the captain of that ship.
Now, after 30 years of space battles, friends being eaten by alien energy beings, etc..., that cadet, now in charge of his own ship, might have an outlook and personality very close to the original captain's
In most of the Star Trek episodes, the characters already know the "right" thing to do. The action just implements that and reinforces that their decisions are "right" and that the opposition is "evil" or "mis-guided" or whatever.
Meanwhile, in real life, people have to make tough choices and the consequences of those choices change our outlook and affect the choices we make after that.
If he's going to play any character in the Star Trek universe, I think it should be Khan. Then when Kirk yells Khaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan, we'll all empathize THAT much more. :)
No, Dammit! I want Ben Affleck. He is every bit as bad an actor as William Shatner. Let's see who do I want for Spock? Hmmm. Here is the cast I want.
Kirk - Ben Affleck
Spock - Tom Cruise
McCoy - Matthew McConaughey
Scotty - Hugh Jackman
Uhura - Halle Berry
Yeoman Rand - Tricia Helfer
Nurse Chapel - Pamela Anderson
Checkov - Wil Wheaton
Sulu - Daniel Dae Kim
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Shouldn't they just make a new series, instead of having new actors playing the same old characters?! Seems like a new starship as the main focus would be good right about now.
he's already got the eyebrow raise
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No, it already ended.. when voyager aired.. that was the end of star trek ' as we knew it' and morphed into something different.. a cash cow milking..
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I've said it before, and I'll say it again: the Star Trek franchise has run dry and the kindest thing they can do is let it die.
TOS was revolutionary in the 1960s. I was little, but remember it well.
A generation passed, and TNG showed what the format could do.
DS9 had its moments.
Voyager was unwatchable.
I'm not sure why they bothered with Enterprise.
Part of what made TNG special was the fact that a generation had passed. They had new stories to tell, and new views of old stories. It worked. Since then all it's all been downhill.
It's had its day. Let it die. No franchise can last forever, and I see no point in prolonging the agony on this one.
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I would love to see Matt Damon as Kirk. Oh lord, how I love Matt Damon!!!!
Considering all they're trying to do to kill Stargate(changing the times, not advertizing it enough, putting on USA shows at the same time, the whole BSG time change) I don't think selling Trek to the Sci-Fi channel would be a very good idea.
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When Star Trek first aired, William Shatner was 35. Matt Damon will be 38 when they start filming in 2008. How can he play a "young" Kirk if he is older than the original Kirk?
Honestly if you want to go the young Kirk route, we need an actor in his 20s, not late 30s. Matt Damon is too old to be playing "young men" roles. Good Will Hunting came out 10 years ago, and Damon was in his *late* 20s then.
I suppose it is just acting, and you can be flexible on ages. But from a standpoint of PR I think it would make more sense to bring in a younger up and coming star to play the part, and to try and draw in a new generation of young viewers. I think in this case Matt Damon's name won't really sell the film. Star Trek is bigger than Damon, and he is not popular with the 14-20 crowd anyways.
Ben Affleck is more kirk-like to me. I hate the guy, but I think it would be a good fit. Plus Affleck is 2 years younger than Damon.
(not that I care, I probably won't bother seeing yet another star trek film. I didn't bother to see the new star wars films either because episode I sucked so badly)
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If Matt Damon is typecast, he did it to himself as co-author of Good Will Hunting. He always plays a character who can outthink others. That is the conceit he's adept at carrying to the screen, possibly due to Harvard hubris. Was Kirk a guy admired for outthinking foes? Not really. Kirk had machismo. The downward spiral of the Trek franchise can be plotted against ballsiness, ending in the pussified soap-opera melodrama all about feeeeelings that has resulted in mass indifference. Kirk had the qualities of a KING, not a politician or counselor. Bring back machismo and people might be interested again. Matt Damon for the role? Possibly. It was a safer bet to imagine Christian Bale as Batman after his performance in Equilibrium. Damon hasn't done anything really Kirklike yet.
...if he wasn't killed in a horrible car accident last night.
It's always about the LIQUID. But lets wait and see. I mean, good can be financially good too... right???
If this had been announced before the Bourne movies, yes. Afterwards, no. Matt Damon has really shown better acting ability than Shatner ever did. Besides, do you really expect any one actor to lift up the pile of crap this movie is bound to be since Berman is coming up with it?
Just put Keanu in as a younger Scotty and pick some other annoying actors like Tom Cruise as an admiral or something and make it the Star Trek version of self mockery. At least then we will know Berman has a sense of humor. If not much else.
Matt Damon has been cast to play a young James T. Kirk...
William Shatner was born on March 22, 1931. He was 35 years old when Star Trek debuted on September 8, 1966.
Matt Damon was born on October 8, 1970. He will be 36 years old before they even begin filming.
Something is seriously whacked in our culture when our "best" leading men can easily pass as characters 10 or 15 years younger than their actual ages.
Can you say "girly men"?
Or do we just prefer a little effeteness with our metrosexuality?
all he needs to say is "I'm Matt Damon"
I know that people really want a Star Trek movie or a new tv show or something, I know I do, but is this movie/plot really a good idea? Maybe they should take a bit more time and make something decent then trying to push out something that they think will sell just with the Star Trek name. I don't know, but I don't see Matt Damon as captain Kirk. It just doens't work.
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Reason#1: I always wanted to see Damon hack the training simulator, so that he could be the only one that won.
Reason#2: I'll get popcorn and prepare to laugh
Reason#3: Because I like movies where there plot doesn't make any since.
Reference(a)Captain Pike had the crew including spoak and the enterprise
Reference(b)If this was to be kirk's younger years then he would only be with his school mates back at the academy, There would be no enterprise, mostly practical jokes and his girl friend
This is just really, really sad. The next logical progression would be Dame Edna commanding the Enterprise. Sad, sad, sad...
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Why not? Look at the whole picture. ... and M Night hasn't done a franchise yet, we could get them both! We already sold out Bryan Singer and Sam Raimi. Sam Jackson's good in this kind of role and the fanboys would pay to see him wipe his ass, so he's Khan. If not, there's always Ben Kingsley. Jim Carrey would be great as that doctor guy, but he'd eat the profits up front ... Seth Green or Matthew Lillard for backup. We can probably dump the engineer and that telephone operator.
(1) First off, the industry doesn't care what ST says or what it's about. Continuity is a quaint notion. What they want is a revived franchise to make money. The best possible outcome is a revival on the order of Spiderman, X-Men, Pirates of the Caribbean, you name it. A big honking summer blockbuster with extensive merchandising. If it does well enough for a series, great, then it will keep the franchise in people's minds. I don't pretend this is any great insight, but it needs to be said.
(2) Why make another ST? It's familiar. Everybody knows some version of the characters and has some emotional attachment to them.
(3) Familiarity is exactly why we see so many remakes today, because we all trundle out to see them.
A lot of people would flock to a re-done Star Trek. Look at how well Battlestar Galactica has done, and that show was miserable.
Let's just pick a couple of the best episodes and steam forward. Or what about Wrath of Khan, that did pretty well? People liked that one. So we've got Matt Damon as Kirk, who else can we find? How about Dallas Howard as Spock? She has a distant kind of air, the tension has always been there
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I'm watching the original series now with my 20something wife, who had never seen them before now. All she wanted to know is, given the advances in technology, why can't anybody make a TV series as good as that now?
Everyone speaks of character development but what about the development of the franchise? Producers and Writers keep beating the crap out of the Federation. What about the development of other species in the franchise? There is a half dozen or so species that a good writer could develop into a show. I would like to see the rest of the empires developed then more of the same Federation based shows.
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All they need to do is call it "Star Trek XI: Kobayashi Maru" and you know we'll go and watch it.
ST fans want to see WHAT HAPPENS NEXT, not what happened before.
We've had the original series. We've had The Next Generation, and DS9 and Voyager and they were all about advancing the plot and overall universe.
Enterprise was a failure before it even started. Regardless of acting and other assets (which honestly I don't think it was ever that good at) Enterprise failed to capture the imagination. We know the federation survives. We know what happens next already. There's no great mystery. There's no sense of exploration, because anywhere they go, we've see beyond it already on the prior shows.
Prequels won't work in a series about moving forward. And honestly, young'ns today don't give a rats ass about Kirk. They need something new and innovative if it's to capture them.
JJ Abrams is at the failure point of the ST franchise and lacking any sort of real vision, he's trying to scramble back and survive on the scraps left behind by Roddenberry. They should have taken up JM Strazynski on his offer and let him craft a new series in the universe and move forward. A real writer could help the franchise. But paramount turned him down saying that they thought the franchise was becomming too overstressed and needed a hiatus and take a off like 5 to 7 years. Who knew they just wanted to wait until they could build another terrible prequel.
Prequels are the refuge of those who do not know how to move forward.
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I wish that Alfred Bester's "The Stars My Destination" would get made into a big dollar movie. That story is one of the all-time greats.
I agree with this but, really, when was the last time Hollywood came up with a new and original idea? It's all remakes, sequels and unimaginative renditions of comic books chock full of tecnhological wizardry instead of anything that has any artistic merit. They would rather take advantage of a previous success milking it until it dries up completely before moving on to exploit something else that has already been done. Very few people seem to have a voice or a vision about anything in the entertainment industry these days. For them, if an idea made money in the past, it must be able to make money again.
If there is anything that can be said about today's Hollywood is that they have turned mediocrity into a virtue and the mundane into an art form. Star Trek has run it's course and there really isn't anything else to say in the genre. It's time for us to move on and leave the Federation and the universe that it created to history. Don't expect Hollywood to come up with it though.
I'll shortcut it for you and let you know that like I did, you should shortly be getting a barrage of messages from /.-ers letting you, silly boy, know that Firefly / Serenity wasn't science fiction, it was a really just a western with rockets. (And don't bother suggesting TOS was a cruise night with phasers - you'll get nowhere.)
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Well personally speaking, I think Matt Damon could pull off a good Kirk, The thing is though, isn't XI supposed to be about when Kirk and Spock and them are at the Fleet Academy? I don't think Matt Damon could pull of a young 25 year old Kirk...
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Star Trek is about the future of humanity...a future where humans have grown out of their primitive instincts, have overcomed materialism and greed, religion and general stupidity.
Star Trek is about exploration of space...exploring new interstellar mysteries, new star configurations, new planets, new formations.
Star Trek is about science...its advantages and disadvantages, and what limits there exists in science, and if machines can be made to reach human status.
Star Trek is about society...how relations between humans evolve, what new structures can society have, how science affects the structure of society.
Star Trek is about ecology...do we destroy a planet because there are the bad guys (and take a whole new ecosystem down) or we find other ways to solve the problem?
Star Trek has lost all the above after DS9! It all became an mindless adventure in space in Voyager/Enterprise...and thus the audience lost interest.
A Star Trek show does not need to be dumbfounded or appeal to the lowest common denominator in order to be successful. A Star Trek show needs to be intelligent and thought-provoking.
The Next Generation and Deep Space Nine series where exactly that. Through clever story telling, the following subjects were negotiated:
-god and religion (in the episode where Picard was thought to be a god).
-language and the process of thinking (Darmok; one of the best episodes of TNG)
-if machines have rights (the episode where Lt Cmdr Data was on trial)
-if machines can interact with people (when Data was in a relationship)
-terrorism (many episodes, including TNG where the terrorists could appear out of thin air)
-political systems (many episodes, especially in DS9, from imperialistic Cardassia to semi-socialist Bajor)
-economic systems (the double episode in DS9 where Sisko goes back in time and gets sheltered in a homeless area)
-spying (the role of Darak in DS9)
-new races (many of episodes)
-new interstellar phenomena (for example a Dyson sphere)
-relationships (father-son in Picard-Crusher, Sisko and son, O'Brien and wife etc)
-war and its consequences (too many episodes to list)
-archeology (when Picard chased ancient artifacts)
All the above topics, and many more, were presented, some times naively, but most of the time in a very clever way, within a clever story. And Then Star Trek was successful.
What did we get with Enteprise, for example? and endless stream of save-the-world adventures, with none of the essence presented in TNG and DS9. And a silly story about an alien race hellbent to destroy Earth (the Xindi), no matter what...at least the Borg wanted to assimilate us, and that was interesting.
So, here is a message to Star Trek producers: if all you want is a cash cow, don't bother and let it die. If you want to share a message (along with profit, I don't deny that), then bring in interesting people to write the show and let them deploy their ideas.
And don't be politically correct, for Christ's shake! remember that the first interracial on screen kiss was between Kirk and Uhura!
Which means Paranount would never go for it as they couldn't just warm over the previous 4 decades star trek plots and use those to save money.
I'd like to see Star Trek Pr0n; the first mix of scifi (with a plot) and soft-core porn. Star Trek: Enterprise came close a couple of times. :-) BTW, Sci Fi channel has picked up the series: http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/news/article /21155.html
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When William Shatner started he played a young James Kirk,
then he played a curlier and slight pudgy James Kirk,
then he played a heavy James Kirk going back in time as T J Hooker,
then he played a fat James Kirk,
then he played an old James Kirk,
then he played a dead James Kirk.
Don't get me wrong, Matt Damon is good, but he just doesn't have the repertoire that William Shatner has.
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Deep down I always thought Kirk was a gay serial killer who rode ponies. Now I'll realize that vision.
That's right! The producer of such wonders as the CIA recruitment video, "Alias" Where the guy playing the psychopathic creep father of the main character just 'happens' to look like Bush when made up and lighted just so, (and always at those emotionally intense points where the insertion of subliminal ideas works best!) Ah, Alias! The CIA boasted merrily of the sudden huge spike in the number of resumes received from young people wanting to look pretty and act like psychopaths for the American government after Abrams' dippy spy show started airing.
And "Lost", Abrams' other wonder-show where, like "Alias" the story idea is kinda neat and fun to watch, (like eating high MSG corn chips), but where the writers' collective grasp of and insight into the human condition is weak and shallow at best and where the emotional hooks are so incredibly obvious and formulaic, I could found myself actively complaining to the television set.
So, Homeland Security sellout and purveyor of shallow Walmart characters. . , do we want this man contributing to Star Trek?
I know my answer.
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And, bluntly, stop female-izing science fiction. That just kills it. Sci-Fi is a male adolescent fantasy and trying to add a demographic is bean-counter ignorance of what fuels interest in sci-fi in the first place. While I'm at it: the Spiderman movie respected the male adolescent fantasy foundation of the story and succeeded wildly. The Daredevil movie did not, and failed miserably. Adolescent males do NOT have as a fantasy getting their asses kicked by a female. And while the girlfriend element is important in Superman, it cannot correctly be the focus of the storyline in the form of romance.
They put a weak, female-friendly commander, Scott Bakula, in command of the Enterprise in Star Trek: Enterprise. Huge error. Voyager? Captain Janeway? How PC. Give me a break. What moron came up with that? Mom flying the house. They either re-male Sci Fi or just log it out.
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Morgan Freeman has been trying to get Rendezvous on the big screen for some time now. I think he's having a hard time getting people to buy into it without popularizing it. It's really too bad, because I think this book would translate well to a film.
One of the book's sequels could make for the basis of a good TV series.
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