The number of exploits doesn't really matter either though - just 1 is enough to ruin your weekend. and it's a lot more likely to hit if you think that there aren't any exploits that could hit you.
I wasn't really paying too much attention - you'll find the details in the VC++.net express beta 1 that's just come out. I think it was in the 'whats new' pages.
erm... I tried to find it, but as is the way of these things, I can't now.
well actually, yes.... SOAP for example is basically obsoleted by microsoft now (use the new.net networking stuff they say, with wizards to migrate those old soap apps).
For some of the other stuff, like CMM, you won;t find that being used outside of big, big business.
Heck, even when we tried to performance tune the application, we wound up with gobs and gobs of #pragma directives and custom code to either work around bugs in a target platform, or just improve performance (for example, by aligning data structures to specific address boundaries).
How is this made easier in Java? Do you mean that Java magically makes said platform-performance issues go away?
Java just makes it easier to develop. Many problems are still there, only now unsolvable that is easily (?) fixed by a #ifdef
no, the poster said that c++ operator== will compare pointers. That's all the reference to pointers required.
operator== defined on a class compares objects. The default operator== will compare object addresses, primitives, etc. It cannot compare object contents as it doesn't know what's inside the object. C++ gves you the power to declare that object-content comparison and from them on can use it transparently.
Incidentally, the compare-by-reference in Java, compares pointers, you just don't get to see the memory.
quite true, however, those guys down there in the to-the-metal department will pretty soon find that they want it to do something Java doesn;t cope too well with, and then you'll see the limitations.
Your argument is a bit like windows developers going on about VB - you can do nearly everything you need a business app to do in the language, but when you step outside the cosy boundary, it becomes hell.
links have always been part of NTFS, only there are a lackof tools to play with them.
XP has fsutil which you can use to create hard and soft links.
I'm not sure if it works with directories, for that you want a tool that creates 'junctions'.
Apparently the problem with using hardlinks was that programs weren't aware of them - some would always try to delete the file, some would have issues when recursively deleting, etc. I think MS must have put some checking or other work into the system to prevent problems, or they wouldn't have released the tool now.
I think you're being a little unfair, there are many situations where offsite backup is required.
In your particular case, you'd want a reliable connection through the lan (or is it a wan you're backing up to - how much bandwitdth does your ISP allow? Is it always working when you need it? etc), and you'd want the storage to be fault tolerant, and hosted in a secure location - probably off site.. There is a reason corporate servers are backed up to tape which is then taken home by the admins.
Blue-ray sounds an excellent way of doing that kind of backup as it stores a lot of data and would be quicker to write (possibly) that tape, and probably more reliable, especially after several writes.
There are also other reasons for backup - archiving data is a big thing (I know a water utility that has a camera that goes through sewers recording the walls for damage so it can be fixed before it becomes a problem, however for 'regulatory reasons' that data has to be stored, at about 10Gb per day... how many HDDs would you need?)
I currently use DVD-RAM for my backups, drag n drop whenever I feel like it, and store the disc away from my PC in case it gets nicked, flooded, burnt, etc. I also backup my really important data over the WAN to my ISP nightly - but only the small amount that won't take all night to transfer.
you're crazy - IBM's lanmanager network software was written in the 80s. the NT team decided, in the end, that it was best to make it part of NT partly for backwards compatibility with OS/2 and other existing networks, and partly because they could implement it really quickly.
Back in those days, a password-protected administartive share was not considered a security risk. Times have changed but that doesn;t give you any reason to 'rewrite' history when all you know is how things are today.
create a startup batch script, put 'net share c$/d' in it.
If you're running and NT-based system (I don't know about the dos-based ones) then you can edit the registry to turn off the auto-creation of the admin shares:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Serv ic es\LanmanServer\Parameters
Set keys AutoShareServer and AutoShareWks to 0
There - not much different from editing a linux config file:)
WRT your comment whether java or.net could catch up to C performance....
this isn't 100% relevant, but does give some interesting insights into how C++ and.NET performance works - and.net is just like Java, remember.
Some guys took the Quake2 source code, compiled it up using VC++7, then they converted it (with as little modification as possible) to compile in managed c++. They did it to show how easy it was to convert all your legacy apps to shiny new.net apps, but a side-effect is that they created an apples to apples benchmark (well, that's as non apple-to-orange as anyone's going to get).
The.net one performed at 85% of the performance of the native one.
Now, I know its not exactly a business app, but it does show a real world application with no differences besides those mandated by the platform.
I understand that some ISPs are now cutting off infected folks until they can show they've patched. I think that we'll be seeing more of this, and I can't say I disagree (as long as they understand what a Unix, Linux, or MacOS box is).
I hope you mean that the ISP will only block you after looking for a specific patch signature on your box, and not that you're sending masses of spam email.
I think the inspect-your-pc approach isn't feasible, so they'll simply block unfriendly spam-spewers. In which case, I'd expect them to block a *nix, or Mac box as readily as any other.
Fixed: Lost connections during heavy traffic Improved system reliability under heavy traffic Fixed illegal user access the WEB configuration utility. Known Bugs and Feature Limitations
WPA is not supported. Wireless Bridging and repeating functions are not supported. "
middle click pasting is NOT faster than what I can achieve with my pinky already on ctrl and my forefinger already on the v before my mouse gets where it's going
did someone suggest that the mouse was quicker than the keyboard in linux??? they'll be suggesting that the GUI is quicker than the command line next!!!:)
If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient,
Its another example of nonsense int he real world.. of course I *am* the intended recipient of every email I get, otherwise the sender would have sent it to someone else. Of course, you could say that you accidentally sent it to me instead of who you meant to send it to.. but how am I supposed to know that? I don't read minds.
I can guess, but that's hardly going to stand up in court, now is it?
Once I worked at a company that had email addresses that were firstname+last initial. Mine was AndrewB. One of the directors was AndyB.
Yes, you guessd right - I received an email once saying "Andy, do you want this quarters bonus of (several thousand pounds) paid as salary or into your pension?". I was overjoyed.. several thousand pounds in addition to my salary, yes please. I only wondered why they hadn't announced this wonderful new bonus scheme to us in some corporate communication......
I never got the cash, but it was addressed to me, had my name at the top, everything.
Yeah... I tried installing Zoo Tycoon on my other computer and saying 'Look honey, patronising, no social skill, geek' but she just didn't bite." Perhaps she loves you and is understanding after all. ah.
probably most of this is because the BBC is getting ready for the govt to kill off the licence fee after listening to fee-objecting people such as yourself.
I don't think there's much to say about DVD-released programming, it could be your subjective opinion that this is the case, another could say that the modern audience is more interested in 'encapsulated' series similar to the stuff we get off US programmes, and not dvd-sales driven at all. (they do release a lot of back catalog on dvd now - stuff that never saw anything other than broadcast 20 years ago.)
considering the non-friendly hack that you need to go through to get this working, wouldn't it be better to capture the data sent by Outlook and OE's read receipts and implement something compatible in Mozilla and other email clients.
I only say use the Outlook 'standard' because it doesn't seem there's any others, and it'd be a bit useless if we had multiple versions.
If we want read receipts, that is. Personally I turn them off, and don't send them.
you got it right - star wars 4 was a cowboy movie, with a fair bit of knights in shining armour save-the-princess stuff in too.
*thats* what made it great - it has a storyline that appeals to everyone, not just kids. Good story is possibly the only thing that matters for a film - no actors (proof? Only Guinness was an established actor for SW4, Ford was a chippy!), or special effects, or same-old, same-old plots will do.
Of course, today the mantra is 'nothing can be different from the last film that made us money', and we end up with crap. Such a pity it happened with SW1.
Dear CowboyNeal,
I wish to complain in the strongest possible terms about the previous entry in this forum about the lumberjack who wears women's clothes. Some of my best friends are lumberjacks, and only a FEW of them are transvestites.
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now I know you're trying to justify not visiting relatives, but blaming Microsoft just isn't going to help!
The number of exploits doesn't really matter either though - just 1 is enough to ruin your weekend. and it's a lot more likely to hit if you think that there aren't any exploits that could hit you.
I wasn't really paying too much attention - you'll find the details in the VC++ .net express beta 1 that's just come out. I think it was in the 'whats new' pages.
erm... I tried to find it, but as is the way of these things, I can't now.
well actually, yes.... SOAP for example is basically obsoleted by microsoft now (use the new .net networking stuff they say, with wizards to migrate those old soap apps).
For some of the other stuff, like CMM, you won;t find that being used outside of big, big business.
Heck, even when we tried to performance tune the application, we wound up with gobs and gobs of #pragma directives and custom code to either work around bugs in a target platform, or just improve performance (for example, by aligning data structures to specific address boundaries).
How is this made easier in Java? Do you mean that Java magically makes said platform-performance issues go away?
Java just makes it easier to develop. Many problems are still there, only now unsolvable that is easily (?) fixed by a #ifdef
no, the poster said that c++ operator== will compare pointers. That's all the reference to pointers required.
operator== defined on a class compares objects. The default operator== will compare object addresses, primitives, etc. It cannot compare object contents as it doesn't know what's inside the object. C++ gves you the power to declare that object-content comparison and from them on can use it transparently.
Incidentally, the compare-by-reference in Java, compares pointers, you just don't get to see the memory.
quite true, however, those guys down there in the to-the-metal department will pretty soon find that they want it to do something Java doesn;t cope too well with, and then you'll see the limitations.
Your argument is a bit like windows developers going on about VB - you can do nearly everything you need a business app to do in the language, but when you step outside the cosy boundary, it becomes hell.
links have always been part of NTFS, only there are a lackof tools to play with them.
XP has fsutil which you can use to create hard and soft links.
I'm not sure if it works with directories, for that you want a tool that creates 'junctions'.
Apparently the problem with using hardlinks was that programs weren't aware of them - some would always try to delete the file, some would have issues when recursively deleting, etc. I think MS must have put some checking or other work into the system to prevent problems, or they wouldn't have released the tool now.
I think you're being a little unfair, there are many situations where offsite backup is required.
.. There is a reason corporate servers are backed up to tape which is then taken home by the admins.
In your particular case, you'd want a reliable connection through the lan (or is it a wan you're backing up to - how much bandwitdth does your ISP allow? Is it always working when you need it? etc), and you'd want the storage to be fault tolerant, and hosted in a secure location - probably off site
Blue-ray sounds an excellent way of doing that kind of backup as it stores a lot of data and would be quicker to write (possibly) that tape, and probably more reliable, especially after several writes.
There are also other reasons for backup - archiving data is a big thing (I know a water utility that has a camera that goes through sewers recording the walls for damage so it can be fixed before it becomes a problem, however for 'regulatory reasons' that data has to be stored, at about 10Gb per day... how many HDDs would you need?)
I currently use DVD-RAM for my backups, drag n drop whenever I feel like it, and store the disc away from my PC in case it gets nicked, flooded, burnt, etc. I also backup my really important data over the WAN to my ISP nightly - but only the small amount that won't take all night to transfer.
you have to develop using the methodology, not just slap an "open source" license on it
you mean, you have to submit all changes to Bill Gates who decides what goes into the CE kernel or not?
you're crazy - IBM's lanmanager network software was written in the 80s. the NT team decided, in the end, that it was best to make it part of NT partly for backwards compatibility with OS/2 and other existing networks, and partly because they could implement it really quickly.
Back in those days, a password-protected administartive share was not considered a security risk. Times have changed but that doesn;t give you any reason to 'rewrite' history when all you know is how things are today.
create a startup batch script, put 'net share c$ /d' in it.
v ic es\LanmanServer\Parameters
:)
If you're running and NT-based system (I don't know about the dos-based ones) then you can edit the registry to turn off the auto-creation of the admin shares:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Ser
Set keys AutoShareServer and AutoShareWks to 0
There - not much different from editing a linux config file
WRT your comment whether java or .net could catch up to C performance....
.NET performance works - and .net is just like Java, remember.
.net apps, but a side-effect is that they created an apples to apples benchmark (well, that's as non apple-to-orange as anyone's going to get).
.net one performed at 85% of the performance of the native one.
this isn't 100% relevant, but does give some interesting insights into how C++ and
Some guys took the Quake2 source code, compiled it up using VC++7, then they converted it (with as little modification as possible) to compile in managed c++. They did it to show how easy it was to convert all your legacy apps to shiny new
The
Now, I know its not exactly a business app, but it does show a real world application with no differences besides those mandated by the platform.
I just found it interesting... read it here
Famous last words...
will probably be, "press 'select' to see if you are the WINNER of our 10,000 giveaway sweepstakes"
I understand that some ISPs are now cutting off infected folks until they can show they've patched. I think that we'll be seeing more of this, and I can't say I disagree (as long as they understand what a Unix, Linux, or MacOS box is).
I hope you mean that the ISP will only block you after looking for a specific patch signature on your box, and not that you're sending masses of spam email.
I think the inspect-your-pc approach isn't feasible, so they'll simply block unfriendly spam-spewers. In which case, I'd expect them to block a *nix, or Mac box as readily as any other.
Bug Fixes
Fixed: Lost connections during heavy traffic
Improved system reliability under heavy traffic
Fixed illegal user access the WEB configuration utility.
Known Bugs and Feature Limitations
WPA is not supported.
Wireless Bridging and repeating functions are not supported. "
perhaps this one is more appropriate to the current discussion MS
"Now, remember, until weve got those ad dollars, Linux is crap, buy XP"
middle click pasting is NOT faster than what I can achieve with my pinky already on ctrl and my forefinger already on the v before my mouse gets where it's going
:)
did someone suggest that the mouse was quicker than the keyboard in linux??? they'll be suggesting that the GUI is quicker than the command line next!!!
If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient,
Its another example of nonsense int he real world.. of course I *am* the intended recipient of every email I get, otherwise the sender would have sent it to someone else. Of course, you could say that you accidentally sent it to me instead of who you meant to send it to.. but how am I supposed to know that? I don't read minds.
I can guess, but that's hardly going to stand up in court, now is it?
Once I worked at a company that had email addresses that were firstname+last initial. Mine was AndrewB. One of the directors was AndyB.
Yes, you guessd right - I received an email once saying "Andy, do you want this quarters bonus of (several thousand pounds) paid as salary or into your pension?". I was overjoyed.. several thousand pounds in addition to my salary, yes please. I only wondered why they hadn't announced this wonderful new bonus scheme to us in some corporate communication......
I never got the cash, but it was addressed to me, had my name at the top, everything.
Yeah... I tried installing Zoo Tycoon on my other computer and saying 'Look honey, patronising, no social skill, geek' but she just didn't bite."
Perhaps she loves you and is understanding after all. ah.
probably most of this is because the BBC is getting ready for the govt to kill off the licence fee after listening to fee-objecting people such as yourself.
I don't think there's much to say about DVD-released programming, it could be your subjective opinion that this is the case, another could say that the modern audience is more interested in 'encapsulated' series similar to the stuff we get off US programmes, and not dvd-sales driven at all. (they do release a lot of back catalog on dvd now - stuff that never saw anything other than broadcast 20 years ago.)
considering the non-friendly hack that you need to go through to get this working, wouldn't it be better to capture the data sent by Outlook and OE's read receipts and implement something compatible in Mozilla and other email clients.
I only say use the Outlook 'standard' because it doesn't seem there's any others, and it'd be a bit useless if we had multiple versions.
If we want read receipts, that is. Personally I turn them off, and don't send them.
you got it right - star wars 4 was a cowboy movie, with a fair bit of knights in shining armour save-the-princess stuff in too.
*thats* what made it great - it has a storyline that appeals to everyone, not just kids. Good story is possibly the only thing that matters for a film - no actors (proof? Only Guinness was an established actor for SW4, Ford was a chippy!), or special effects, or same-old, same-old plots will do.
Of course, today the mantra is 'nothing can be different from the last film that made us money', and we end up with crap. Such a pity it happened with SW1.
But remember, after years of dealing with what we feel is a horrible interface
:)
Yeah, but Microsoft had nothing to do with Gnome.
Dear CowboyNeal,
I wish to complain in the strongest possible terms about the previous entry in this forum about the lumberjack who wears women's clothes. Some of my best friends are lumberjacks, and only a FEW of them are transvestites.
Yours faithfully,
Brigadier Sir Charles Arthur Strong, Mrs.