Re:I despise IPv6 and I think it's horrid...
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what you're really saying is that Sun's IPv6 implementation and tools are sadly lacking from a usability point of view. Shame on Sun.
I've no doubt, Sun thought that a 'GUID' per address was a good idea, and that no-one would ever want anything different... but you describe exactly why you *would* want somethign else.
Maybe its just that the tools for managing the addresses/network are poor.
(lol. maybe you should upgrade to Microsoft:)
Re:IPv6 is MUCH more than a replacement for IPv4
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I'm not sure the argument against IPv6 holds that well, but you're right that traffic signals won't be connected to IPv6 - if they are connected to anything, it'll be via their own lines and there's no reason to shift away from that.
However, I can see the ubiquity of IPv6 being useful - from the original article, there was mention of everything being IPv6 enabled. This really means that ethernet will replace USB and firewire connections - your new digital camera will not have a USB connector on it, but will have a mini-RJ45 connector instead.
No-one will care too much about bandwidth, but 'universal connectivity' will bring costs down as real cheap networking chips are produced for everything, and support for it is in everything.
People still won't network their toasters though (except as an embedded linux project:) ) its a silly idea touted as a way of describing what *could* be done.
show your email publicly, and I'll email you on monday. Or email me, and I'll get you some links (hmmm. will take me time), or a marketing/sales type person who'll have all the nice documentation to hand. Let me know more about what you're after. Cheers.
This is interesting for you.. the Fire Brigade Union's response to the government's desire to integrate control rooms (you don't need me to tell you any excuse will do to stop this)
http://www.fbu.org.uk/campaigns/control/controls tu ds.htm http://www.odpm.gov.uk/stellent/groups/odp m_fire/d ocuments/page/odpm_fire_026271-11.hcsp
So not really Linux' fault all those German NT admins and Microsoft Certified Solution Providers can't get their head round it all.
I doubt its admins - it'll be software vendors who cannot, will not, (or can't be bothered to) port their apps to Linux. I guess some will, but would require paying large amounts to do so, money Munich obviously doesn't have.
In-house staff can always be re-trained, and I guess many will be very happy to acquire new, in-demand, skills. Its the external staff you have no control over.
I'm a developer - not a project manager/etc so I don't know enough about all this.... but I work for Intergraph in the UK. We have 2 shared control rooms - Isle of Man and Cleveland.
IoM are perfectly happy to share a single system for the 3 emergency services, but they are a bit strange:) Cleveland Police and Ambulance are also happy to share... but Fire isn't. They've been dragged kicking and screaming into it and are still resisting.
'foreign' tech can be good - it just needs to have an established track record. That said, all services I know of (except IoM) hate new systems simply because they're not what they're used to.
Reliability is probably better in an off-the-shelf package because its been tested extensively by other organisations.
Interoperability is the current 'fashionable' thing in the emergency service arena - it is excellent if you get a system that works with multiple agencies, and all reports I've seen that discuss shared control rooms cite 9/11 as a example of what can happen if you don't interoperate with the other services - ie. if NYC could communicate faster between agencies, some firemen's lives might have been saved.
anyway, I can only help with reports from a uk breakdown organisation that has mobile data in the patrol vans, but that doesn't transcend org. barriers. Or North Wales Police that uses wireless PDAs.
I know that link is on the web 9and therefore possibly as unreliable as the hoax it purports to debunk), but even I knew about the pencil hazards in zero-g, and that NASA din't spent 'millions of dollars' on it.
I don't know if any hardware would need to be replaced (well, except old stuff). surely it'll be a firmware upgrade for most kit.
One thing most people havn't mentioned is that critical mass won't occur unless people see a need for change. They'll have IPv6 when they buy new stuff, and Windows "005 might come with IPv6 installed by default, but in 'compatibility mode', but even then we won't see IPv6 for another 2-3 years. 2007 could seem quite a conservative estimate.
keep yourself logged in, get yourself some good karma, and you'll get to metamoderate. I do it everyday as I think all members (with karma) get to do it.
You would just give them a decent spanking. And they would remember that. Furthermore this would be much cheaper than traditional punishment.
Really? As I understand it, a decent spanking costs upwards of $200 per hour. How is that more cost-effective than a fine, and furthermore, that punishment would surely only *increase* the amount of a certain type of porn spam.:)
yeah, but they're wrong.. Java *is* a platform. All they're doing is stopping you learning about all types of system out there, and forcing Java on you. That will make you *less* marketable than if you knew about other languages, operating systems, platforms, systems.
Who cares is Linux is a better at anything - if you go for a job and they say, 'we use webmonkey server 5', you'll use that, not Linux.
It sounds like they're banging their own OS-political drum, at your disadvantage.
still, I had free beer twice - the company I used to work for, for the christmas party went round several local pubs and gave them money to open the bar for the staff. nice. Though, really.. the beer wasn't free - the company paid for it. Your university... I guess taxpayers paid for it through the union grants paid for from the university fees.
not really. How effective are IP blocklists when an innocent server gets added to it. There are plentry of stories about this happening, but i guess you don't care about those users.
This is another tool to use to combat spam, and should be encouraged. Because, at trhe moment, even with ip blocking, keyword filters, beysian filters, greylisting, etc etc all in operation - I'm *still* getting some spam.
The article states that they're using some memory latency technique so that newer CPUs cannot simply reduce the time it takes to calculate the problem. So, your old hardware shouldbe OK, even if you send out thousands of emails per day... hmm. do you send out thousands of emails per day?
yeah, that's Open Source. You want it to be Free as well, don't you. Don't confuse the two. Open source is source code you can see, so you can view what's going on, even if you're not allowed to change it.
Free source, is stuff you can also make changes to.
dreadful analogy - if you ran your car 8 hours a day, 7 days a week, it'd be way better shape in 18 months than someone who's used it 20 minutes a week to potter to the shops.
AFAIK Lithium Polymer batteries have no memory effect and cope very well with half charges. The problems come when you overcharge the batteries... but most chargers (ie not the really cheap ones) detect the voltage drop you get when the battery is full and turn off.
I guess Apple, having power management circuitry built in to tell you how much charge is left, uses the better charger mechanism.
Of course they're going to be snippy if you demand hardware replacement when they have no such program.
you're kidding, right? they *should* be polite and courteous, explaining how sorry they are that they cannot accomodate you, and they understand your pain due to their product malfunctioning.
Snippy? no way, not in the world where they value you as a customer, and not as a nuisance who's somehow damaged their wonderful product.
I don't think its got anything to do with learning from the references unless you either a) know the referenced work in the first place, b) get taught about it later.
So the derived works are meaningless as a way of teaching about the references, and most people don't care - the books are inspired by something which gives them a bit more story/plot/whatever that makes them great.
There's only 1 way in whcih a derived work will help you learn.. Starwars may have taken huge chunks of Roman culture to base a plot on, which means you have a reference yourself for when you go and learn about the Romans. (I mean, read about the romans in school, kids will start saying.. 'oh yeah, just like the Empire in starwars'.) The references are reversed to them, which should make learning slightly easier, but has nothing to do with being taught by watching/reading the derived work in the first place.
Well that's in general... I learnt most about the Romans from Monty Python. "Romanes eunt domus"
/. readers and global domination.. I don't think so!
geek1: 'we need a totalitarian state run by elite technocrats to rule the world'
geek2: 'totalitarian states blow goatse, your monopolistic society just prevents personal freedom and restricts innovation. a community-wide socialist state for the benefit of all is what's needed'
geek1: 'you commie, just like the inhabitants of Thabeza3 in trek:NG episode 7, your society will crumble under the weight of indecision and everyone making their own principalities'
Meanwhile.. the rest of the world will continue as normal:)
me: do you sell multi-zone DVD players? guy: no Sir, they're illegal in this country. (U.S.) but if you were to ask the manufacturer or look on the web, you'll find that you can switch region by pressing the open and 1 keys at the same time. wink. wink.:)
I doubt if anyone buys region-coded players in the UK anymore.
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what you're really saying is that Sun's IPv6 implementation and tools are sadly lacking from a usability point of view. Shame on Sun.
:)
I've no doubt, Sun thought that a 'GUID' per address was a good idea, and that no-one would ever want anything different... but you describe exactly why you *would* want somethign else.
Maybe its just that the tools for managing the addresses/network are poor.
(lol. maybe you should upgrade to Microsoft
I'm not sure the argument against IPv6 holds that well, but you're right that traffic signals won't be connected to IPv6 - if they are connected to anything, it'll be via their own lines and there's no reason to shift away from that.
:) ) its a silly idea touted as a way of describing what *could* be done.
However, I can see the ubiquity of IPv6 being useful - from the original article, there was mention of everything being IPv6 enabled. This really means that ethernet will replace USB and firewire connections - your new digital camera will not have a USB connector on it, but will have a mini-RJ45 connector instead.
No-one will care too much about bandwidth, but 'universal connectivity' will bring costs down as real cheap networking chips are produced for everything, and support for it is in everything.
People still won't network their toasters though (except as an embedded linux project
show your email publicly, and I'll email you on monday. Or email me, and I'll get you some links (hmmm. will take me time), or a marketing/sales type person who'll have all the nice documentation to hand. Let me know more about what you're after.
s tu ds.htmp m_fire/d ocuments/page/odpm_fire_026271-11.hcsp
Cheers.
some news links from google:
about the RAC
Police, Fire:
news
news
news in pdf format
Police Federation news
This is interesting for you.. the Fire Brigade Union's response to the government's desire to integrate control rooms (you don't need me to tell you any excuse will do to stop this)
http://www.fbu.org.uk/campaigns/control/control
http://www.odpm.gov.uk/stellent/groups/od
So not really Linux' fault all those German NT admins and Microsoft Certified Solution Providers can't get their head round it all.
I doubt its admins - it'll be software vendors who cannot, will not, (or can't be bothered to) port their apps to Linux. I guess some will, but would require paying large amounts to do so, money Munich obviously doesn't have.
In-house staff can always be re-trained, and I guess many will be very happy to acquire new, in-demand, skills. Its the external staff you have no control over.
unfortunately, you needed to do a more advanced economics course. There is far, far more to government take-up of OSS than free linux.
Recently Newham Borough Council, one of 9 government supported councils trialling OSS, scrapped its plans to migrate due to overall cost.
Read about it here
There's far more to do that just give Linux and OpenOffice away for free. Lower cost does involve more than free licences for a desktop.
I'm a developer - not a project manager/etc so I don't know enough about all this.... but I work for Intergraph in the UK. We have 2 shared control rooms - Isle of Man and Cleveland.
:)
IoM are perfectly happy to share a single system for the 3 emergency services, but they are a bit strange
Cleveland Police and Ambulance are also happy to share... but Fire isn't. They've been dragged kicking and screaming into it and are still resisting.
'foreign' tech can be good - it just needs to have an established track record. That said, all services I know of (except IoM) hate new systems
simply because they're not what they're used to.
Reliability is probably better in an off-the-shelf package because its been tested extensively by other organisations.
Interoperability is the current 'fashionable' thing in the emergency service arena - it is excellent if you get a system that works with multiple agencies, and all reports I've seen that discuss shared control rooms cite 9/11 as a example of what can happen if you don't interoperate with the other services - ie. if NYC could communicate faster between agencies, some firemen's lives might have been saved.
anyway, I can only help with reports from a uk breakdown organisation that has mobile data in the patrol vans, but that doesn't transcend org. barriers. Or North Wales Police that uses wireless PDAs.
only they didn't.
http://hoaxinfo.com/spacepen.htm
I know that link is on the web 9and therefore possibly as unreliable as the hoax it purports to debunk), but even I knew about the pencil hazards in zero-g, and that NASA din't spent 'millions of dollars' on it.
lol. so, you can speed as fast as you like, with no chance of getting caught, but only in those places where you can't see where you're going.....
:)
excellent!
I don't know if any hardware would need to be replaced (well, except old stuff). surely it'll be a firmware upgrade for most kit.
One thing most people havn't mentioned is that critical mass won't occur unless people see a need for change. They'll have IPv6 when they buy new stuff, and Windows "005 might come with IPv6 installed by default, but in 'compatibility mode', but even then we won't see IPv6 for another 2-3 years. 2007 could seem quite a conservative estimate.
keep yourself logged in, get yourself some good karma, and you'll get to metamoderate. I do it everyday as I think all members (with karma) get to do it.
You would just give them a decent spanking. And they would remember that. Furthermore this would be much cheaper than traditional punishment.
:)
Really? As I understand it, a decent spanking costs upwards of $200 per hour. How is that more cost-effective than a fine, and furthermore, that punishment would surely only *increase* the amount of a certain type of porn spam.
yeah, but they're wrong.. Java *is* a platform. All they're doing is stopping you learning about all types of system out there, and forcing Java on you. That will make you *less* marketable than if you knew about other languages, operating systems, platforms, systems.
Who cares is Linux is a better at anything - if you go for a job and they say, 'we use webmonkey server 5', you'll use that, not Linux.
It sounds like they're banging their own OS-political drum, at your disadvantage.
ah ok.
:)
$357 General service fee, and all you got was a couple of watery pints! you were done, mate
I'm not sure if you didn't get the point...
still, I had free beer twice - the company I used to work for, for the christmas party went round several local pubs and gave them money to open the bar for the staff. nice. Though, really.. the beer wasn't free - the company paid for it. Your university... I guess taxpayers paid for it through the union grants paid for from the university fees.
Free software is like free beer. Glasses $5 extra.
not really. How effective are IP blocklists when an innocent server gets added to it. There are plentry of stories about this happening, but i guess you don't care about those users.
This is another tool to use to combat spam, and should be encouraged. Because, at trhe moment, even with ip blocking, keyword filters, beysian filters, greylisting, etc etc all in operation - I'm *still* getting some spam.
The article states that they're using some memory latency technique so that newer CPUs cannot simply reduce the time it takes to calculate the problem. So, your old hardware shouldbe OK, even if you send out thousands of emails per day... hmm. do you send out thousands of emails per day?
yeah, that's Open Source. You want it to be Free as well, don't you. Don't confuse the two. Open source is source code you can see, so you can view what's going on, even if you're not allowed to change it.
Free source, is stuff you can also make changes to.
dreadful analogy - if you ran your car 8 hours a day, 7 days a week, it'd be way better shape in 18 months than someone who's used it 20 minutes a week to potter to the shops.
AFAIK Lithium Polymer batteries have no memory effect and cope very well with half charges. The problems come when you overcharge the batteries... but most chargers (ie not the really cheap ones) detect the voltage drop you get when the battery is full and turn off.
I guess Apple, having power management circuitry built in to tell you how much charge is left, uses the better charger mechanism.
Of course they're going to be snippy if you demand hardware replacement when they have no such program.
you're kidding, right? they *should* be polite and courteous, explaining how sorry they are that they cannot accomodate you, and they understand your pain due to their product malfunctioning.
Snippy? no way, not in the world where they value you as a customer, and not as a nuisance who's somehow damaged their wonderful product.
So the derived works are meaningless as a way of teaching about the references, and most people don't care - the books are inspired by something which gives them a bit more story/plot/whatever that makes them great.
There's only 1 way in whcih a derived work will help you learn.. Starwars may have taken huge chunks of Roman culture to base a plot on, which means you have a reference yourself for when you go and learn about the Romans. (I mean, read about the romans in school, kids will start saying.. 'oh yeah, just like the Empire in starwars'.) The references are reversed to them, which should make learning slightly easier, but has nothing to do with being taught by watching/reading the derived work in the first place.
Well that's in general... I learnt most about the Romans from Monty Python. "Romanes eunt domus"
oops. "Romani Ite Domum". silly me.
Look, becoming the CEO of the worlds second largest software company is bound to tick a few folks off
:)
saying that is bound to tick him off too
/. readers and global domination.. I don't think so!
:)
geek1: 'we need a totalitarian state run by elite technocrats to rule the world'
geek2: 'totalitarian states blow goatse, your monopolistic society just prevents personal freedom and restricts innovation. a community-wide socialist state for the benefit of all is what's needed'
geek1: 'you commie, just like the inhabitants of Thabeza3 in trek:NG episode 7, your society will crumble under the weight of indecision and everyone making their own principalities'
Meanwhile.. the rest of the world will continue as normal
That conversation should have gone:
:)
me: do you sell multi-zone DVD players?
guy: no Sir, they're illegal in this country. (U.S.) but if you were to ask the manufacturer or look on the web, you'll find that you can switch region by pressing the open and 1 keys at the same time. wink. wink.
I doubt if anyone buys region-coded players in the UK anymore.
The problem is the spelling of his name...
.. different. I have to agree with his interpretation of The Swans though :)
anyway, here it is, though some of his choices were a little bit
Tony Hawk's 12 Days of Christmas
really? MS-DOS grew (partially at least) out of CP/M roots, which was invented in 1977. I guess that's not too far off the beginnings of Unix.
I wonder if someone's written a 'family tree' of operating systems and they features?