Among other aspects, he's not getting paid for being the fifth highest contributor of submissions for LLVM, and yet for some reason he's being told that his contributions aren't as important as potentially getting more token women contributions.
That's an interesting perspective. How did you conclude that his contributions weren't as important as "getting more token women contributions"? The group he objects to being associated with is specifically about encouraging under-represented groups to participate more often in open source. It literally has no effect on his contributions.
Just because someone reasonably rejects to an insane overbearing code of conduct requiring people
"Welcome everyone," or some such similar bullshit: does not mean that person
embodies the antithesis on every topic that code of conduct says something about.
Why do you think "be nice" is "an insane overbearing code of conduct"?
No one other than you suggested treating dark skinned or people with boobs in any unusual or particular way.
Well according to him, he rage quit because llvm partnered with Outreachy to get more "dark skinned people and people with boobs" working in the project and because the code of conduct told him he couldn't be mean to people. Combining those two reasons makes the racist/misogynistic claim seem plausible. Now, I think the guy's lying about the reason he left, because I think it's really that there's too much structure to the project now. I think he's scapegoating the policy and Outreachy to justify his leaving because he's been unhappy with the project for a while and unable to articulate why.
"The last drop was llvm associating itself with an organization that openly discriminates based on sex and ancestry".
In other words, he's the one who is against discriminating on sex and ancestry, and the project has officially taken leave of that.
Except that statement is materially false. His claim is that Outreachy is discriminatory because it's mission is to increase visible minority and female participation in open source. That part is materially true. However, since he was already a contributor to llvm, he literally could not be discriminated against by Outreachy because he's already participating in the open source movement. My initial reaction is that he's either lying about his reasons or is so self-unaware that he doesn't understand his own motivations. I really think the first reason he listed is the primary reason for leaving and that was that as the project has grown, it has become more difficult to make big meaningful changes, he just needed an excuse that he feels doesn't make him feel like he's leaving the project because it's too mature for him.
Oh, I think I know this one. We can start with Michael Bay, Uwe Boll, and Jason Friedberg.
Because, can you honestly find any other reason they were ever (and at least one case, still is) allowed to direct movies?
Michael Bay has made studios a lot of money. That's what keeps the wheels moving, not maleness, staleness, or paleness.
Michael Bay has made studios a lot of money. That's what keeps the wheels moving, not maleness, staleness, or paleness.
Actually, I think it's more accurate to say Michael Bay has not lost as much money for the studios as he could have. In theory, those movies could have been worse. I'm not sure exactly how, but Uwe Boll certainly could have found a way to actually lose money on them. The problem, for me, is that Bay's movies are entirely underwhelming. They're not even good blockbusters, they're just explosion filled garbage. Which I find sad, because I usually like explosion filled movies. Bay, however, is frittering away the good will of the brands that he's trampling with incoherent plots and incomprehensible action scenes. Take a look at the Transformers movies' box office, for example, the first three each made more than the last two combined. As Bay is allowed more latitude, his movies get progressively worse.
Bay can only coast on nostalgia and expensive explosions for so long... But you can't argue that Bay is definitely male, stale, and pale, although I would argue that the stale part is the biggest problem.
So - President Obama had a hard-line with Chia-Head in North Korea, antagonizing the munchkin until he finally threw a tantrum - and realized he really was a munchkin?
Because insults on twitter convinced Kim Jong-un change? You have to admit that seems rather unlikely.
That the tax break passed was an Obama push?
The tax cuts only started in 2018, so unless Donald has some kind of time machine that allows him to push policies into the past, it's unlikely to have already have had a significant effect on the economy.
That actual deportations of illegal immigrants (the Obama Administration used to count "prevention at the border" as a deportation - which it clearly is not) are up because of President Obama?
I'll give you the illegal immigration one, even though the U.S actually deported fewer people in 2017 than 2016 (mostly because significantly fewer people were caught trying to enter the country illegally). Trump's government actually did deport far more people who were living and working in the United States than the Obama government did.
And what... you think Trump cares about getting people jobs?
No, of course not, Trump just wants to credit for getting people jobs. Whether the people or the jobs actually exist isn't nearly as important as the credit.
Is this the same Trump that has the Secret Service pay for the golf carts the agents use while they protect Trump at his own golf courses? That alone resulted to more than $135k in the first 9 months of his presidency. And that went into Trump*s pockets.
Yes. I think we are actually in agreement. I'm not saying Trump is good for giving away his salary, I'm saying he's making the government pay more money than it gets to praise him for giving up a relatively minor salary*. So by giving up the salary, Trump is winning, which is what's really important to him.
* While $400K is a large amount of money to normal people, compared to the money that Trump is making from his position, for example by charging his own security protect him, it's much less than the actual amount of money he will be making (stealing for tax payers) each year.
Meanwhile, the US economy is doing great, illegal immigration is down, jobs and employment are up, ISIS has lost 98% of its territory, and North Korea seems to be on the verge of denuclearizing... Yeah this Trump guy is terrible!
You're thanking the wrong guy. Most of that is simply the result of the policies put in place by the Obama administration. Can you name a single thing that Trump and/or the Republican congress has done to enact any of those changes?
Then how are Trump and Obama, the 2 people who beat her so visibly, still alive?
Have you seen Trump lately? She's clearly killed him and is now wearing his face as a mask.
Obama's a special case. She implanted viper larva in his spine and every time he displeases her, she lets them (painfully) crawl closer to his brain. But only because she likes him, like a somewhat annoying younger brother....
They've announced Trump is not the target of any criminal investigation.
Not quite, he's the subject of a criminal investigation, but the not the target. The difference is that when someone's a target it means they already have enough evidence to change them with a serious crime. When they're a subject there is only have evidence (so far) to implicate them in a serious crime.
It's over.
It's like you're calling the game during the second quarter.
No, it's the same "investigation" which has no morphed into a full-blown witch-hunt determined to overthrow an elected President by any means necessary.
No. It's not.
Mueller referred something he found that indicated Cohen had acted illegally to the United States District Court for the Southern District of New York, who asked the FBI to conduct the raid. The Deputy Attorney General, Rod Rosenstein, a Trump appointee, signed the warrant, so the either the evidence that Michael Cohen broke the law and was likely to destroy evidence if issued a subpoena was pretty convincing, or even people Trump has appointed to their positions are joining the "witch-hunt conspiracy" to overthrow him.
But that circus clown has inadvertently ripped the mask off the thoroughly corrupt establishment.
Are you sure it's not the clown who's thoroughly corrupt? Because Trump has a long, long history of corruption. I'm not sure why I should believe he's stopped being a corrupt, double-dealing, backstabber now that he's president.
Err...what in the world is racist about asking ID to prove who you are?
It's simple, when it comes time to decide what ID is sufficient to prove who you are, the Republicans always seem to also look at which form of ID black voters are least likely to have because they rarely get most of the black vote. Then then repeat the process for other groups they can identify that don't vote for them. The goal is always to find the id combination that allows the most white voters to cast their vote without trouble, while allowing the fewest non-white voters to do the same. Then they boast about it how it helps them win elections.
There is no good reason for the TPPA to allow the US back in, China would be the better choice, its middle class is growing, the US's is shrinking.
That's not entirely true. The U.S. is still a big market and the TPP countries would like to have lowered trade barriers to that market, so I think it's more accurate to say that there's no reason for the TPP countries to allow either the U.S. or China in to the agreement without either country make concessions to the TPP countries.
On the other hand, we don't know if Trump is only saying this because the last person he talked to said the TPP was a good thing.
Just to be factual, Trump has publicly donated his salary from his first 15 months back to various government departments. I would strongly suspect it's because $100k is a pretty cheap price for Trump to gather a crowed of people to coo and ahh over his "generosity" and to praise him. You see, Trump is not all about the money, he's actually not very good a making money compared to other business people (Paris Hilton and the Olson Twins seem to be quite a bit better at it, for example), Trump is all about his ego.
It seems Trump doesn't actually want to make money, he wants to win. Sometimes that means making money, sometimes that means screwing other people over to make himself feel better, sometimes that means giving generously (or at least promising to give generously) to some group that he's sure will say nice things about him in response. It certainly seems like it's all about Trump, in his world no one else seems to matter except as props to make him feel good.
Which is my point... he clearly cares about other things than just making money for himself, even if the other things he cares about are no less self-serving.
I, for one, agree with you. If Trump's goal was simply to make money, he would probably be better at it. And it is true that Trump has donated his Salary from his first 15 months in office to various government organizations. In fact there is a ceremony (that likely costs far more than $100k to organize) every 3 months for him to unveil his magnanimous gifts, which are sometimes made to the very same departments he's attempting to cut funding for in his budget recommendations...
You may not be aware but the some of the provision on intellectual property, investment, government procurement and customs were dumped once the country pushing them, the United States of America, withdrew from the deal.
My impression is that the deal is no longer so bad that's it is literally worse than nothing. That being said, I think there is little chance that the United States would be permitted to rejoin the deal as long as Donald Trump is president, mostly because Trump will try to dictate terms to an already enacted trade deal and his attempts at re-negotiating a deal he already backed out of are unlikely to go over well with anyone not directly employed by Trump.
Nope, according to the people who hate Hillary, she's already is a criminal mastermind on the order of Professor Moriarty because she's apparently committed so many crimes without ever leaving a trace of evidence that the police or Republican lawmakers could actually act on. I mean it takes phenomenal planning and discipline to have 48 (last count I saw) people murdered for your own benefit and to leave so little evidence that the police think most of your murders are suicides or accidents. Even more amazing, in the cases where the authorities suspect foul play, they suspect other people.
So according to them, she clearly knows how to run a "legitimate business" empire.
Or, just perhaps, you could actually look at someone who is presenting INFORMATION, then think about it.
You know, if he's lying to you, it's not information, it's disinformation and when you repeat it to people who know better, you look stupid.
This guy doesnt TELL you what to think, he is just giving you information, you know, stuff, YOU can think about.
How can you be so totally wrong? He's telling you exactly what to think and here you are repeating it,
And yes, the information he gives you DOES come from peer reviewed data sources, FWIW, just not the ones the media like to make headlines from.
Sure, he's giving you some of the facts, although more than likely a few strategically placed lies in there to help convince you that up is down and left is right. However, you won't understand the full story with only half of the facts and he's not going to tell you anything that doesn't agree with the narrative that he's prepared for you and others like you. If someone is telling you that all the scientists are lying to you, guess what? He thinks you're a sucker.
Why would they remain unhappy when they get to move to a better country and earn loads of money?
Because it appeases the ego of people who think Trump isn't that bad to imagine that there are never any bad consequences to anything that Trump does and that anybody who dislikes him for any reason is therefore unreasonably and perennially discontent?
I mean, damn... if there was ever a time when the entire left-wing could've gotten together and said " Yeah! Make the evil corporation pay!!! "
So you're complaining that the left wing aren't stupid enough to fall for Trump's bullshit? Trump doesn't want corporations to pay, he wants the corporations who fund newspapers that refuse to lick his boots to pay.
You seem to forget that the left values equal treatment under the law. They don't want Amazon to specifically to pay more in taxes, they want all corporations to pay more in taxes and supporting Trump in an actual witch hunt won't get them what they want. It's not like there's any hope that Trump is honest in his claims, because Trump already signed a tax deal that cut corporate taxes.
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It is a charity that focuses on getting communities under-represented in open source software involved in open source software.
Among other aspects, he's not getting paid for being the fifth highest contributor of submissions for LLVM, and yet for some reason he's being told that his contributions aren't as important as potentially getting more token women contributions.
That's an interesting perspective. How did you conclude that his contributions weren't as important as "getting more token women contributions"? The group he objects to being associated with is specifically about encouraging under-represented groups to participate more often in open source. It literally has no effect on his contributions.
Your fallacy there is Strawman.
What argument was he misrepresenting?
Just because someone reasonably rejects to an insane overbearing code of conduct requiring people "Welcome everyone," or some such similar bullshit: does not mean that person embodies the antithesis on every topic that code of conduct says something about.
Why do you think "be nice" is "an insane overbearing code of conduct"?
No one other than you suggested treating dark skinned or people with boobs in any unusual or particular way.
Well according to him, he rage quit because llvm partnered with Outreachy to get more "dark skinned people and people with boobs" working in the project and because the code of conduct told him he couldn't be mean to people. Combining those two reasons makes the racist/misogynistic claim seem plausible. Now, I think the guy's lying about the reason he left, because I think it's really that there's too much structure to the project now. I think he's scapegoating the policy and Outreachy to justify his leaving because he's been unhappy with the project for a while and unable to articulate why.
No.
"The last drop was llvm associating itself with an organization that openly discriminates based on sex and ancestry".
In other words, he's the one who is against discriminating on sex and ancestry, and the project has officially taken leave of that.
Except that statement is materially false. His claim is that Outreachy is discriminatory because it's mission is to increase visible minority and female participation in open source. That part is materially true. However, since he was already a contributor to llvm, he literally could not be discriminated against by Outreachy because he's already participating in the open source movement. My initial reaction is that he's either lying about his reasons or is so self-unaware that he doesn't understand his own motivations. I really think the first reason he listed is the primary reason for leaving and that was that as the project has grown, it has become more difficult to make big meaningful changes, he just needed an excuse that he feels doesn't make him feel like he's leaving the project because it's too mature for him.
You can just tell us three.
Oh, I think I know this one. We can start with Michael Bay, Uwe Boll, and Jason Friedberg.
Because, can you honestly find any other reason they were ever (and at least one case, still is) allowed to direct movies?
Michael Bay has made studios a lot of money. That's what keeps the wheels moving, not maleness, staleness, or paleness.
Michael Bay has made studios a lot of money. That's what keeps the wheels moving, not maleness, staleness, or paleness.
Actually, I think it's more accurate to say Michael Bay has not lost as much money for the studios as he could have. In theory, those movies could have been worse. I'm not sure exactly how, but Uwe Boll certainly could have found a way to actually lose money on them. The problem, for me, is that Bay's movies are entirely underwhelming. They're not even good blockbusters, they're just explosion filled garbage. Which I find sad, because I usually like explosion filled movies. Bay, however, is frittering away the good will of the brands that he's trampling with incoherent plots and incomprehensible action scenes. Take a look at the Transformers movies' box office, for example, the first three each made more than the last two combined. As Bay is allowed more latitude, his movies get progressively worse.
Bay can only coast on nostalgia and expensive explosions for so long... But you can't argue that Bay is definitely male, stale, and pale, although I would argue that the stale part is the biggest problem.
You can just tell us three.
Oh, I think I know this one. We can start with Michael Bay, Uwe Boll, and Jason Friedberg.
Because, can you honestly find any other reason they were ever (and at least one case, still is) allowed to direct movies?
So - President Obama had a hard-line with Chia-Head in North Korea, antagonizing the munchkin until he finally threw a tantrum - and realized he really was a munchkin?
Because insults on twitter convinced Kim Jong-un change? You have to admit that seems rather unlikely.
That the tax break passed was an Obama push?
The tax cuts only started in 2018, so unless Donald has some kind of time machine that allows him to push policies into the past, it's unlikely to have already have had a significant effect on the economy.
That actual deportations of illegal immigrants (the Obama Administration used to count "prevention at the border" as a deportation - which it clearly is not) are up because of President Obama?
I'll give you the illegal immigration one, even though the U.S actually deported fewer people in 2017 than 2016 (mostly because significantly fewer people were caught trying to enter the country illegally). Trump's government actually did deport far more people who were living and working in the United States than the Obama government did.
It'll take DECADES to fix everything this son of a bitch is doing to us once he's removed from office.
And the Republicans will blame the Democrats for the damage and attempt to obstruct any attempt to fix the damage.
And what... you think Trump cares about getting people jobs?
No, of course not, Trump just wants to credit for getting people jobs. Whether the people or the jobs actually exist isn't nearly as important as the credit.
Is this the same Trump that has the Secret Service pay for the golf carts the agents use while they protect Trump at his own golf courses? That alone resulted to more than $135k in the first 9 months of his presidency. And that went into Trump*s pockets.
Yes. I think we are actually in agreement. I'm not saying Trump is good for giving away his salary, I'm saying he's making the government pay more money than it gets to praise him for giving up a relatively minor salary*. So by giving up the salary, Trump is winning, which is what's really important to him.
* While $400K is a large amount of money to normal people, compared to the money that Trump is making from his position, for example by charging his own security protect him, it's much less than the actual amount of money he will be making (stealing for tax payers) each year.
Meanwhile, the US economy is doing great, illegal immigration is down, jobs and employment are up, ISIS has lost 98% of its territory, and North Korea seems to be on the verge of denuclearizing... Yeah this Trump guy is terrible!
You're thanking the wrong guy. Most of that is simply the result of the policies put in place by the Obama administration. Can you name a single thing that Trump and/or the Republican congress has done to enact any of those changes?
Why is this modded funny? I think this guy is dead serious. Read his other comments. They guy is a wack job.
You must be new here.
Then how are Trump and Obama, the 2 people who beat her so visibly, still alive?
Have you seen Trump lately? She's clearly killed him and is now wearing his face as a mask.
Obama's a special case. She implanted viper larva in his spine and every time he displeases her, she lets them (painfully) crawl closer to his brain. But only because she likes him, like a somewhat annoying younger brother....
They've announced Trump is not the target of any criminal investigation.
Not quite, he's the subject of a criminal investigation, but the not the target. The difference is that when someone's a target it means they already have enough evidence to change them with a serious crime. When they're a subject there is only have evidence (so far) to implicate them in a serious crime.
It's over.
It's like you're calling the game during the second quarter.
No, it's the same "investigation" which has no morphed into a full-blown witch-hunt determined to overthrow an elected President by any means necessary.
No. It's not.
Mueller referred something he found that indicated Cohen had acted illegally to the United States District Court for the Southern District of New York, who asked the FBI to conduct the raid. The Deputy Attorney General, Rod Rosenstein, a Trump appointee, signed the warrant, so the either the evidence that Michael Cohen broke the law and was likely to destroy evidence if issued a subpoena was pretty convincing, or even people Trump has appointed to their positions are joining the "witch-hunt conspiracy" to overthrow him.
But that circus clown has inadvertently ripped the mask off the thoroughly corrupt establishment.
Are you sure it's not the clown who's thoroughly corrupt? Because Trump has a long, long history of corruption. I'm not sure why I should believe he's stopped being a corrupt, double-dealing, backstabber now that he's president.
Err...what in the world is racist about asking ID to prove who you are?
It's simple, when it comes time to decide what ID is sufficient to prove who you are, the Republicans always seem to also look at which form of ID black voters are least likely to have because they rarely get most of the black vote. Then then repeat the process for other groups they can identify that don't vote for them. The goal is always to find the id combination that allows the most white voters to cast their vote without trouble, while allowing the fewest non-white voters to do the same. Then they boast about it how it helps them win elections.
There is no good reason for the TPPA to allow the US back in, China would be the better choice, its middle class is growing, the US's is shrinking.
That's not entirely true. The U.S. is still a big market and the TPP countries would like to have lowered trade barriers to that market, so I think it's more accurate to say that there's no reason for the TPP countries to allow either the U.S. or China in to the agreement without either country make concessions to the TPP countries.
On the other hand, we don't know if Trump is only saying this because the last person he talked to said the TPP was a good thing.
Just to be factual, Trump has publicly donated his salary from his first 15 months back to various government departments. I would strongly suspect it's because $100k is a pretty cheap price for Trump to gather a crowed of people to coo and ahh over his "generosity" and to praise him. You see, Trump is not all about the money, he's actually not very good a making money compared to other business people (Paris Hilton and the Olson Twins seem to be quite a bit better at it, for example), Trump is all about his ego.
It seems Trump doesn't actually want to make money, he wants to win. Sometimes that means making money, sometimes that means screwing other people over to make himself feel better, sometimes that means giving generously (or at least promising to give generously) to some group that he's sure will say nice things about him in response. It certainly seems like it's all about Trump, in his world no one else seems to matter except as props to make him feel good.
Which is my point... he clearly cares about other things than just making money for himself, even if the other things he cares about are no less self-serving.
I, for one, agree with you. If Trump's goal was simply to make money, he would probably be better at it. And it is true that Trump has donated his Salary from his first 15 months in office to various government organizations. In fact there is a ceremony (that likely costs far more than $100k to organize) every 3 months for him to unveil his magnanimous gifts, which are sometimes made to the very same departments he's attempting to cut funding for in his budget recommendations...
You may not be aware but the some of the provision on intellectual property, investment, government procurement and customs were dumped once the country pushing them, the United States of America, withdrew from the deal.
My impression is that the deal is no longer so bad that's it is literally worse than nothing. That being said, I think there is little chance that the United States would be permitted to rejoin the deal as long as Donald Trump is president, mostly because Trump will try to dictate terms to an already enacted trade deal and his attempts at re-negotiating a deal he already backed out of are unlikely to go over well with anyone not directly employed by Trump.
Nope, according to the people who hate Hillary, she's already is a criminal mastermind on the order of Professor Moriarty because she's apparently committed so many crimes without ever leaving a trace of evidence that the police or Republican lawmakers could actually act on. I mean it takes phenomenal planning and discipline to have 48 (last count I saw) people murdered for your own benefit and to leave so little evidence that the police think most of your murders are suicides or accidents. Even more amazing, in the cases where the authorities suspect foul play, they suspect other people.
So according to them, she clearly knows how to run a "legitimate business" empire.
Or, just perhaps, you could actually look at someone who is presenting INFORMATION, then think about it.
You know, if he's lying to you, it's not information, it's disinformation and when you repeat it to people who know better, you look stupid.
This guy doesnt TELL you what to think, he is just giving you information, you know, stuff, YOU can think about.
How can you be so totally wrong? He's telling you exactly what to think and here you are repeating it,
And yes, the information he gives you DOES come from peer reviewed data sources, FWIW, just not the ones the media like to make headlines from.
Sure, he's giving you some of the facts, although more than likely a few strategically placed lies in there to help convince you that up is down and left is right. However, you won't understand the full story with only half of the facts and he's not going to tell you anything that doesn't agree with the narrative that he's prepared for you and others like you. If someone is telling you that all the scientists are lying to you, guess what? He thinks you're a sucker.
Indeed, it is.
Why would they remain unhappy when they get to move to a better country and earn loads of money?
Because it appeases the ego of people who think Trump isn't that bad to imagine that there are never any bad consequences to anything that Trump does and that anybody who dislikes him for any reason is therefore unreasonably and perennially discontent?
I mean, damn... if there was ever a time when the entire left-wing could've gotten together and said " Yeah! Make the evil corporation pay!!! "
So you're complaining that the left wing aren't stupid enough to fall for Trump's bullshit? Trump doesn't want corporations to pay, he wants the corporations who fund newspapers that refuse to lick his boots to pay.
You seem to forget that the left values equal treatment under the law. They don't want Amazon to specifically to pay more in taxes, they want all corporations to pay more in taxes and supporting Trump in an actual witch hunt won't get them what they want. It's not like there's any hope that Trump is honest in his claims, because Trump already signed a tax deal that cut corporate taxes.