Canada Has Pulled Off a Brain Heist (axios.com)
An anonymous reader writes: Seoul-born Wendy Hui Kyong Chun, a professor at Brown University known for her work on fake news, is moving to Canada. So is Alan Aspuru-Guzik, a Harvard chemistry professor working on quantum computing and artificial intelligence. They are among 24 top academic minds around the world wooed to Canada by an aggressive recruitment effort offering ultra-attractive sinecures, seven-year funding arrangements -- and, Chun and Aspuru-Guzik said in separate interviews with Axios, a different political environment from the U.S. The "Canada 150 Research Chairs Program" is spending $117 million on seven-year grants of either $350,000 a year or $1 million a year. It's part of a campaign by numerous countries to attract scholars unhappy with Brexit, the election of Donald Trump, and other political trends, sweetened with unusually generous research conditions.
iZombie or The Walking Dead brain heist?
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Funny how dubya didn't get that reaction.
Seems like they really need it.
Canada is always there when the USA needs them most:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
I deny that I have not avoided attaining the opposite of that which I do not want.
And as the Know Nothings party, now called Republicans, destroy your education systems and industry, we thank them greatly for making more room for us.
PS.
The world is laughing at you. Respond, angry I bet! Have at it, tell me how MAGA worked and 'merika is the greatest country in the whole USA! Come on, we all want to see your logical, thought out arguments...
I know this place has been going downhill for awhile but this is an especially shitty submission even by msmash standards. A handful of academics get a boatload of money to move to canada is proof of a net braindrain in canada's direction and somehow this extends to proof that this is all trump's fault based upon one random comment?
We can look forward to many, many wonderful academic paper. For example there's the sex life of castrated transexaul protofeminist mental cases. And how about intersectional anarco-feminism of color? How about the emotional stability of carrots and parsnips, their intersectionality with gender veganism. Thank God for Canada!
Ireland is attractive because of the culture and language.
The Netherlands is attractive because the working language is English and they have a 30% rule, where for the first 8 years you get the first 30% of your income completely outside the tax system. Also, the Netherlands is very progressive.
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And like Canada they are way too fucking cold!!
This is capitalism and the free market at work. Here in Europe we have attracted quite a few American climate scientists, mainly in France. Keep up the good work my American friends!
More money spent on science is always a good thing, and discoveries made in any country help us all.
"First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
The competition for 3rd place by many great countries is strong indeed.
Well the article is pure leftist babble as always, but this line is definitely true: “But I place my bets on Canada rather than the U.S. as a place for my kids to grow up.” In the US, it's better to send the kids study abroad...
Well the article is pure leftist babble as always, but this line is definitely true: “But I place my bets on Canada rather than the U.S. as a place for my kids to grow up.” In the US, it's better to send the kids study abroad...
Be careful, they may come back talking this "leftist babble". We have a way of indoctrinating them with our comfortable societies. [evil laugh]
And like Canada they are way too fucking cold!!
You're just a bunch of wusses. (Or too stupid to know how to buy winter clothes.)
Some of us like not referencing our driver's licenses to remember which gender we are.
currently the US seems like it is run by a guy who seems like a caveman who likes to club "smart people" in the head with a club... no wonder IF smart people are fleeing from the US? Maybe same reason California wants indepence?
Oooh, nice by-the-numbers fake news posting. Some kids pose with baseball bats for a cool picture with firm tongue-in-cheek ironic undercurrents, and suddenly you have leftists 'patrolling the campus with baseball bats on a seek-and-destroy mission against "nazis"'.
Hire a malcontent, get a malcontent.
E Proelio Veritas.
in the US, Trump pulled off a Brain Fart.
Now that US colleges are rolling in an unprecedented flood of money, why aren't they using more of it to make joining the faculty a better deal?
I would never leave Canada to live in the US. And given how shitty our weather is, that speaks volumes...
They got Jordan Peterson too, from Harvard, though he's from Canada and he went there 20 years ago.
It's the great brain robbery?
In the 80's, several of my best Physics and CS professors were ex-Americans who had fled the draft for the Vietname war in the 60's.
Canada was all the better for it.
However, in the interest of fairness, it should be noted that there's a constant brain drain (rather slower of late) from Canada to the US of talented individuals seeking the greater opportunities that a country as large as the US can offer. This is more of a small flow of academics in the other direction rather than a huge reversal in the regular brain drain to the US.
Dubya was a well-meaning but simple man who was lead astray by some truly evil men (Rumsfeld & Cheney). Trump is evil and stupid but most of all egocentric, which has thus far mostly prevented him from getting the assistance he needs to accomplish very much.
We're only 17 months into the Trump era. At this point in Dubya's reign he hadn't even invaded Iraq yet. Spanky's trade war with China is already slowing the economy. If we make it to 2020 (or God forbid 2024) without invading both Iran and North Korea, THEN I'll agree that he's a better president than Dubya (though still not a better person).
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When we get our army of AI soldiers, we'll remember who our friends were. (and weren't)
- Love Canada
The dangers of knowledge trigger emotional distress in human beings.
Head-hunting based on academic merit is not racist - even if none from Africa fits the bill.
Well I can't say I'm hugely surprised. Our Prime Minister (Justin Trudeau) did say he wanted to advance Canada's Technologies so we would stop just selling raw resources away but instead switched to more lucrative and better paying goods.
But, if you are a true believer in democracy . . . it should be right of UK voters to decide to kick out foreigners . . . correct . . . ?
If you are a true believer in democracy then you should have a lot of trouble with the Brexit vote. Several million British citizens living outside the UK, many inside the rest of the EU, were denied the right to vote in the referendum. It is extremely likely that many of them would have voted to remain, especially those in the EU!
There is no doubt that this exclusion was legal. But you cannot exclude several million of your adult citizens from voting on an issue which directly affects them and then pretend that the result is democratic. As someone who has lived in Europe working at the CERN particle physics lab I always felt of myself as an EU citizen first and foremost and this is now being stripped away from me without my having any vote.
Fortunately, I had already moved to Canada before it was fashionable and I have now done my own personal Brexit and am a proud, new Canadian citizen. However, it is still sad to see the country you grew up in having names that are becoming increasingly ironic: "Great" Britain and the "United" Kingdom.
I've heard of brain heists before. The one that sticks in my mind is the one that resulted in the acquisition of Abby Normal's brain.
The worst thing Trump could do is put the economy into a Clinton-like bubble. A bubble economy looks good for a few years (e.g. the mid-90's), but there is always a long and painful crash afterward. It took the world roughly fifteen years to recover from the crashes following the twin bubbles Clinton started (stock market and real estate).
Tariffs are just a thinly disguised tax increase designed to prevent the economy from getting overheated.
as in, rich people trying to get richer by buying success instead of working for it
Yay! A truimph validating hatred of Trump by bribing scientists with taxpayer dollars for $350k to $1M a year, minimum 7 years!
(-1: Post disagrees with my already-settled worldview) is not a valid mod option.
Two words that rarely appear in close proximity.
Canada is economist.
Brexit was on of the few victories of the democracy vs the powers who control everything (elections included). Now, they are takin revenge at any cost, any moment any way, This is just another maneouver to hit britain for chosing against New World Order.
Americans, I'd be worried, even if not voted for Trump, seeing how media, social networks and corporations are trying to reverse the election outcome. Democracy is fine, as long as you vote for THEIR candidate, Even if his (or her in this case) plan is to destroy the society.
They paid good Canadian money for those brains. Which is slightly less good than American money, but close enough.
Use of the word "cuck". Never fails, anyone who uses this "word", which isn't even a word, is guaranteed to be a moron, an ignoramus, or worse.
Maybe you should spend some time looking back at the last ten years of bad science - faked studies, meta-studies, multi-variate models with dancing elephants, biases cooked into the methodology, pal-review, suing other researchers because they published something that dared to disagree and withholding/losing data.
Just like every other human endeavor, there are good and bad, capable and incompetent, sane and psychotic people involved. Please don't build a church around science.
Some people won't stop talking about Trump. It's boring and nobody wants to hear a nobody talk about politics. Or religion. Or money. Just shut the fuck up already.
That word...I do not think it means what you think it means.
Providing stable, long-term funding so that established, high-profile researchers can bring their projects and research programs to Canada doesn't really look like a sinecure; they're not getting paid to do nothing. The $350,000 or $1 million per year funding for these positions isn't handed over as a lavish salary; it's support to allow researchers to hire staff, buy equipment, and maintain their labs. It's a fairly long-term arrangement as these things go - the NIH's R01 grants contemplate up to 5 years, and many sources of money are 3 or fewer years, or one-offs - but it's not ludicrous.
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I'm sure when Canada's white majority is gone, and 50% of the country is Chinese, it will be a wonderful place to live. Just like China.
So unhappy they need a $350k-$1 million per year incentive to move.
The U.S. has been damaged by the 2016 election and will suffer economically for decades. It may never really recover.
It looks like we are on the path to a full blown smoot-hawley Great Depression trade war. Except- it looks like it will be the U.S. against the entire world this time. Everyone else will simply route around the U.S. - leaving the U.S. in a weaker position even after it stops this nonsense.
It's just a fact that labor costs in India and China are much lower than in the U.S. And automated labor costs are even lower than in India and China (tho land is still much more expensive in the U.S. so the cost of doing business will remain mildly higher even when both automate).
Trends in inflation won't equalize labor in China until at least 2045 and in India until at least 2055.
She was like chocolate when she drank... semi-sweet at first and then increasingly bitter.
Many people have told me they are jealous of my Canadian passport, often referred to by them as my get out of jail free card.
I mean it's in Canadian dollars after all...
Well, I, for one, blame Canada.
You mean they took Abby's Brain.. Abby Normal's Brain?
Anyone who is "unhappy with Brexit" is an idiot, and shouldn't be allowed to immigrate to Canada.
With regards to other comments about integration and how the U.K. is so good at it: Rotherham, Telford, Oxford, and an estimated 1,000,000 UK girls say otherwise.
Who else thought this was going to be a news article about Canadians stealing a brain (or more than one!), either from a morgue or from a scientific institution? Instead, it's just a news article about a scientist moving to Canada.
Yay for Canada, though, I suppose.
The U.S. has been damaged by the 2016 election and will suffer economically for decades. It may never really recover.
It looks like we are on the path to a full blown smoot-hawley Great Depression trade war. Except- it looks like it will be the U.S. against the entire world this time. Everyone else will simply route around the U.S. - leaving the U.S. in a weaker position even after it stops this nonsense.
It's just a fact that labor costs in India and China are much lower than in the U.S. And automated labor costs are even lower than in India and China (tho land is still much more expensive in the U.S. so the cost of doing business will remain mildly higher even when both automate).
Trends in inflation won't equalize labor in China until at least 2045 and in India until at least 2055.
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She was like chocolate when she drank... semi-sweet at first and then increasingly bitter.
She was like chocolate when she drank... semi-sweet at first and then increasingly bitter.
...a proud know-nothing fails to define exactly why virtue is a bad thing. Continuing to use the term "virtue-signaling" to mean "something bad" displays your ignorance and that is truly "something bad".
So please, continue!