You fucking kidding me? I was reading this transcript from an ask the whitehouse seminar, some guy asked the question:
Aren't virtually all of the accusations that President Bush leveled against Islamic extremists in his speech today equally true of himself and his government? When will the President stop killing civilians in Iraq, stop protecting the drug trade in Afghanistan, stop torturing prisoners, stop developing dangerous new weapons, stop trampling human rights abroad and democracy at home?
The response he got was: "I would hope that you can see a vast moral difference between the Presidents decision to defend the American people from further attacks and the actions of Islamic radicals who intentionally murder innocent civilians, to advance their evil ideology and agenda."
This damn perception you have two wrongs make a right, ie. that 'war a'int evil if you have some good intentions' it TOTAL BS. YOU seriously live in a country that has free speech? REALLY??!! Yeah, you're probably the leader in talking about it OVER and over and over again like it's something independent to the US alone (and then you make some silly comparison with countries like communist russia, china, or whoever you've had feuds with, completely disregarding the hundreds of civilized countries you could be making comparisons with) - try going up to a cop and saying "I am going to kill the president." IT IS AGAINST THE LAW to make a verbal death threat to the president - you can be arrested for it. Free speech should mean being able to say something without being hassled by law authorites - start making certains statements, fanatical or otherwise, and you will get in trouble (even my country's going to start deporting 'Islamic fundamentalists' for 'insighting hatred' through speech). You talk about promoting free speech for 200+ years - yeah you had it in your fine constitution, but wtf did that mean? 50/60 years ago, black people were being being lynched for looking at people the wrong way, let alone saying anything. It was just a piece of paper which was ignored, yet you kept referring to it over and over again as some fucking beacon of liberty.
You're talking about a country who has enough money and gall to spontaneously invade other countries (these aren't the middle ages ffs, even though you weren't around then, because you didn't invade your own country and attempt to kill off/segregate the locals until a few hundred years ago) - you're not the least of all evils. To openly do evil things in 'the name of freedom' means nothing. And the rest of the world has become pretty damn annoyed about your government too, not just the American public.
Yeah, I just read this about KAT, and had a look at the google desktop search bar thing (I don't use it). Could someone please fill me in - do either of these two tools offer any additional functionality over grep, find/locate?
While I agree with the principle of what you're saying, poisoning bittorrent clients is hardly illegal. Also, I read a story a few days ago (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/10/04/riaa_sued /) where the riaa got sued for using unethical tactics to obtain information. Moral - if they do it to you, you can do something about it (provided you can afford court justice of course, which I can't).
But, the impression I got, through reading forums to help me get some obscure devices to work (ubuntu it seems comes shipped with a patched X11 for enablding evdev -> logitech MX700 mice, even though it hasn't made the xorg official release stream yet), is that ubuntu seems to have a really decent and helpful community base of users (with some pretty sharp ones too), & the community you share a distribution with can be a sincere reason for picking it. If mandrake's TOO newbie & gentoo's too zealot or redhat's too coorporate then pick one you like - a distro is just a kernel with apps.
It's not a troll...it's discussion bait...
why? I guess for the sense of achievement, and want to immerse oneself in an exclusive community where people who pursue the obscure, like you, have something in common...to share an smaller internet not full of corporate websites & casual users, who feel no excitement from the internet, or the wonder of international broadcasting, or space exploration, because they're so acclimatized to it...it's rewarding to do hard things with your computer. That's why so many of us waste time configuring/discovering retro unix based operating systems, but consequently get more satisfaction from computer use...
No obviously not - but I wouldn't blame slashdot - if you've ever relied on slashdot to be a level headed 'tru-geek' site than you've you know you've been kidding yourself! (sorry slashdot, you know I love you..)
The best thing I ever did was configure my preferences so that certain stories got filtered out, & make sure I click on the right ones...anyone can spot an MS flame baiter a mile away, just don't click on them - unless you feel like it (as I did this Saturday morning).
Plus there are loads of Sections/stories that never make it to the front page, because they know that don't make it to the front page (check sections like BSD, linux, Developers), and they get far fewer but far more valid/useful comments - again you're going to have to do some self configuration, becasue the owners of the website know just as well that people that MS-it stories are more popular with anonymous cowards/people without an account/urge to configure - more specialized areas (ie. true computing, not IT) can bee found no slashdot, but not often of the front page.
You can also start browsing on a higher comment filter (although I wouldn't recommend this), OR start lavishly using your 'foes' setting, so that whenever you see a +5 funny comment which is actually -7 funny, just filter them out for life.
Seriously I wish that the slashdot lords would take my suggestion seriously - funny should be limited to +3. Otherwise it just eats up half the page, which things that aren't actually that funny, just stupid/anti-ms.
Also RSS feeds to Newsforge, Newsvac (a subsection of newsforge) & osnews are good...you'll soon notice that stories get there first, and more focused ones ('sylpheed cli messaging client released! review of Ipython, etc.). In fact, I'm pretty sure I saw a submission by roblimo on OSnews the other day.
I still hang around on slashdot for the community feel (yeah I know, sad isn't it!) - you get some interesting discussion, you just need to pick up a feel for which stories you know you want to avoid.
You can't entirely blame slashdot. They get more sponsporship revenue with more users. If you care, _you can_ configure the website to be more geeky/root out geek stories, just don't expect it by default.
they're aware of having issues, but working on slackware specific patches, and I guess eventually it will become a standard tool when it's a bit more reliable.
But there are package management tools. They've been working on it. And they're useful when you want to mass upgrade several packages on your system without having to uninstall (yes I still don't know how to uninstall a generic packages..like when I download something, untar; make; make install : where can I find out where it put all it's stuff?). Having a database/registry of where an application put's it's files is a damn good idea.
"Updated versions of the Slackware package management tools make it
easy to add, remove, upgrade, and make your own Slackware packages.
Package tracking makes it easy to upgrade from Slackware 10.1 to
Slackware 10.2 (see UPGRADE.TXT). The slackpkg tool in/extra can
also help update from an older version of Slackware to a newer one,
and keep your Slackware system up to date. In addition, the new
slacktrack utility (in extra/) will help you build and maintain
your own packages."
Seriously many have a perception of slackware as being dated/non-user friendly, but it's one of the most integrated/structured distros I know - it DOES move forward/evolve with the times, it just keeps it's releases at stable versions.
Yeah I've got to agree with this. If pages of the bible made it this long on paper (and commodore emulator geeks are going to be around forever by the looks of it), I have my doubts that machines are going to be having trouble interpreting code for reading ascii or utf8. Please...if the data's that important then the people who own it should upgrade it to the latest format (if the old is 'suddenly'about to become totally obselete). All these people whinging about about how cd's won't last - I'm pretty confident that if I bother to hold on to the cdroms in my draw, provided they're kept in their cases/good condition they'll be just as playable (on the same hardware) in 100 years. Frankly I hope (probably all) of the stuff in my e-mail isn't around in 100 years. What's this obsession with holding on to temporary/garbage data? If it's important, back it up, look after it/upgrade the format if you must (that's what people did with out of print lp recordings). $308 million, jeez.
No, I'm suggesting that I deem a piece of software to become unusable in the possible case that a major software vulnarability (especially if it's an application that accesses the internet) makes it inpractical to use. While I should have pointed out what the above user clarified, that I disagree with the concept of paying for bugfixes, I'll also willing to appreciate (as he also pointed out) that many pieces of software have a major code overhaul/rewrite, and they stop supporting the previous bit of software you paid $x for 2 years ago...
of course, it's all relative to inidividual software (and I'm not targetting anyone specifically..), but you can see it in practice.
Thought this would be a good post to air out my views on Software firms charging subscriptions for software (no sure linspire does this, but I know Opera & the OSS drivers do).
I whole heartedly agree with paying for software which I use on a regular basis/prefer, but would great software manufacturers PLEASE stop forcing the loyal users to have their money leeched away for the REST OF THEIR LIVES for the 'priviledge' of being allowed bug fixes/updates?!!
All this does is turn away users (like it did with me, Norton, and probably opera once my educational license expires..). Sofware should be a One-time fee in 'most' cases (maybe vital server software for administrators/companies..but not for casual home user applications)...I would like to know that I can leave a box for 50 years, come back to it at some later point, and just update without having to shell out my credit card - it's just a form of making a system obselete, and it's not very respectful to people who use your software out of all the competition. Also, I can see hypothetically (or perhaps paranoidly) that sofware manufacturers will just keep old bugs until the next Subscription update as a form of forcing people to upgrade of face extreme viral consequences (I've heard people accuse Microsoft of doing this). IT IS NOT COOL, AND MAKES PEOPLE HESITANT TO GET TRAPPED WITH YOUR SOFTWARE.
Like I said, this is not particularly aimed at Linspire (an OS is clearly a 'major app'), but is still applicable.
As the enlightenment website says in 'news' somewhere, http://get-e.org/ is quite useful. It's probably less effort to follow this site then bothering to change your setup entirely. Go with whatever distribution you prefer.
That's it, I've had enough of Slashdot for a few months.
In other news, BMW say it's cars are the best in the world, Roces claim they make the best skates, Calvin Klein claimed he made the best clothes, and the French Army said they were the best.
Wow, a typo ('too' not 'to') and offtopic, and replying to the wrong parent (should have been to "Typical government study...")!! Looks like I'm burning through my karma today...
Slashdot Mirror
You just inspired my first/probably last ever journal entry: http://slashdot.org/~RiotXIX/journal/
Aren't virtually all of the accusations that President Bush leveled against Islamic extremists in his speech today equally true of himself and his government? When will the President stop killing civilians in Iraq, stop protecting the drug trade in Afghanistan, stop torturing prisoners, stop developing dangerous new weapons, stop trampling human rights abroad and democracy at home?
The response he got was: "I would hope that you can see a vast moral difference between the Presidents decision to defend the American people from further attacks and the actions of Islamic radicals who intentionally murder innocent civilians, to advance their evil ideology and agenda."
This damn perception you have two wrongs make a right, ie. that 'war a'int evil if you have some good intentions' it TOTAL BS. YOU seriously live in a country that has free speech? REALLY??!! Yeah, you're probably the leader in talking about it OVER and over and over again like it's something independent to the US alone (and then you make some silly comparison with countries like communist russia, china, or whoever you've had feuds with, completely disregarding the hundreds of civilized countries you could be making comparisons with) - try going up to a cop and saying "I am going to kill the president." IT IS AGAINST THE LAW to make a verbal death threat to the president - you can be arrested for it. Free speech should mean being able to say something without being hassled by law authorites - start making certains statements, fanatical or otherwise, and you will get in trouble (even my country's going to start deporting 'Islamic fundamentalists' for 'insighting hatred' through speech). You talk about promoting free speech for 200+ years - yeah you had it in your fine constitution, but wtf did that mean? 50/60 years ago, black people were being being lynched for looking at people the wrong way, let alone saying anything. It was just a piece of paper which was ignored, yet you kept referring to it over and over again as some fucking beacon of liberty.
You're talking about a country who has enough money and gall to spontaneously invade other countries (these aren't the middle ages ffs, even though you weren't around then, because you didn't invade your own country and attempt to kill off/segregate the locals until a few hundred years ago) - you're not the least of all evils. To openly do evil things in 'the name of freedom' means nothing. And the rest of the world has become pretty damn annoyed about your government too, not just the American public.
Yeah, I just read this about KAT, and had a look at the google desktop search bar thing (I don't use it). Could someone please fill me in - do either of these two tools offer any additional functionality over grep, find/locate?
While I agree with the principle of what you're saying, poisoning bittorrent clients is hardly illegal. Also, I read a story a few days ago (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/10/04/riaa_sued /) where the riaa got sued for using unethical tactics to obtain information. Moral - if they do it to you, you can do something about it (provided you can afford court justice of course, which I can't).
Let's bomb the f*&£ out of their country to get rid of theft forever.
(It wasn't meant to be a troll..)
But, the impression I got, through reading forums to help me get some obscure devices to work (ubuntu it seems comes shipped with a patched X11 for enablding evdev -> logitech MX700 mice, even though it hasn't made the xorg official release stream yet), is that ubuntu seems to have a really decent and helpful community base of users (with some pretty sharp ones too), & the community you share a distribution with can be a sincere reason for picking it. If mandrake's TOO newbie & gentoo's too zealot or redhat's too coorporate then pick one you like - a distro is just a kernel with apps.
Huh, I thought he was just some guy in Seinfeld...
You can't just fob it off with a blah blah yada yada...this is a serious issue, as Symantec pointed out in a report on Monday: http://software.silicon.com/security/0,39024655,39 152423,00.htm,
9 152480,00.htm.
although soon afterwards the pres of Mozilla europe retorted: http://software.silicon.com/security/0,39024655,3
I don't work for silicon.com, that's just what my google search lead me to...that said, this symantec things been in my RSS feeds a lot recently...
Jeez, sorry man. But you can change it:
preferences -> Advanced -> shortcuts,
provides you with 2 'themes':
opera standard/ for unix
which you can change.
It's not a problem. They're only standard to people who use them.
Yeah, and they're changing that now in future releases: http://operawatch.blogspot.com/2005/07/opera-to-st op-spoofing-user-agent-as.html
It's not a troll...it's discussion bait...
why? I guess for the sense of achievement, and want to immerse oneself in an exclusive community where people who pursue the obscure, like you, have something in common...to share an smaller internet not full of corporate websites & casual users, who feel no excitement from the internet, or the wonder of international broadcasting, or space exploration, because they're so acclimatized to it...it's rewarding to do hard things with your computer. That's why so many of us waste time configuring/discovering retro unix based operating systems, but consequently get more satisfaction from computer use...
(& that's why it's 7am, and my eyes hurt)
No obviously not - but I wouldn't blame slashdot - if you've ever relied on slashdot to be a level headed 'tru-geek' site than you've you know you've been kidding yourself! (sorry slashdot, you know I love you..)
The best thing I ever did was configure my preferences so that certain stories got filtered out, & make sure I click on the right ones...anyone can spot an MS flame baiter a mile away, just don't click on them - unless you feel like it (as I did this Saturday morning).
Plus there are loads of Sections/stories that never make it to the front page, because they know that don't make it to the front page (check sections like BSD, linux, Developers), and they get far fewer but far more valid/useful comments - again you're going to have to do some self configuration, becasue the owners of the website know just as well that people that MS-it stories are more popular with anonymous cowards/people without an account/urge to configure - more specialized areas (ie. true computing, not IT) can bee found no slashdot, but not often of the front page.
You can also start browsing on a higher comment filter (although I wouldn't recommend this), OR start lavishly using your 'foes' setting, so that whenever you see a +5 funny comment which is actually -7 funny, just filter them out for life.
Seriously I wish that the slashdot lords would take my suggestion seriously - funny should be limited to +3. Otherwise it just eats up half the page, which things that aren't actually that funny, just stupid/anti-ms.
Also RSS feeds to Newsforge, Newsvac (a subsection of newsforge) & osnews are good...you'll soon notice that stories get there first, and more focused ones ('sylpheed cli messaging client released! review of Ipython, etc.). In fact, I'm pretty sure I saw a submission by roblimo on OSnews the other day.
I still hang around on slashdot for the community feel (yeah I know, sad isn't it!) - you get some interesting discussion, you just need to pick up a feel for which stories you know you want to avoid.
You can't entirely blame slashdot. They get more sponsporship revenue with more users. If you care, _you can_ configure the website to be more geeky/root out geek stories, just don't expect it by default.
According to this [ftp://ftp.lip6.fr/pub/linux/distributions/slackwa re/slackware-10.2/extra/checkinstall/README.1st%5D ,
they're aware of having issues, but working on slackware specific patches, and I guess eventually it will become a standard tool when it's a bit more reliable.
But there are package management tools. They've been working on it. And they're useful when you want to mass upgrade several packages on your system without having to uninstall (yes I still don't know how to uninstall a generic packages..like when I download something, untar; make; make install : where can I find out where it put all it's stuff?). Having a database/registry of where an application put's it's files is a damn good idea.
/extra can
"Updated versions of the Slackware package management tools make it
easy to add, remove, upgrade, and make your own Slackware packages.
Package tracking makes it easy to upgrade from Slackware 10.1 to
Slackware 10.2 (see UPGRADE.TXT). The slackpkg tool in
also help update from an older version of Slackware to a newer one,
and keep your Slackware system up to date. In addition, the new
slacktrack utility (in extra/) will help you build and maintain
your own packages."
Seriously many have a perception of slackware as being dated/non-user friendly, but it's one of the most integrated/structured distros I know - it DOES move forward/evolve with the times, it just keeps it's releases at stable versions.
Yeah I've got to agree with this. If pages of the bible made it this long on paper (and commodore emulator geeks are going to be around forever by the looks of it), I have my doubts that machines are going to be having trouble interpreting code for reading ascii or utf8. Please...if the data's that important then the people who own it should upgrade it to the latest format (if the old is 'suddenly'about to become totally obselete).
All these people whinging about about how cd's won't last - I'm pretty confident that if I bother to hold on to the cdroms in my draw, provided they're kept in their cases/good condition they'll be just as playable (on the same hardware) in 100 years.
Frankly I hope (probably all) of the stuff in my e-mail isn't around in 100 years. What's this obsession with holding on to temporary/garbage data? If it's important, back it up, look after it/upgrade the format if you must (that's what people did with out of print lp recordings). $308 million, jeez.
No, I'm suggesting that I deem a piece of software to become unusable in the possible case that a major software vulnarability (especially if it's an application that accesses the internet) makes it inpractical to use. While I should have pointed out what the above user clarified, that I disagree with the concept of paying for bugfixes, I'll also willing to appreciate (as he also pointed out) that many pieces of software have a major code overhaul/rewrite, and they stop supporting the previous bit of software you paid $x for 2 years ago...
of course, it's all relative to inidividual software (and I'm not targetting anyone specifically..), but you can see it in practice.
Thought this would be a good post to air out my views on Software firms charging subscriptions for software (no sure linspire does this, but I know Opera & the OSS drivers do).
I whole heartedly agree with paying for software which I use on a regular basis/prefer, but would great software manufacturers PLEASE stop forcing the loyal users to have their money leeched away for the REST OF THEIR LIVES for the 'priviledge' of being allowed bug fixes/updates?!!
All this does is turn away users (like it did with me, Norton, and probably opera once my educational license expires..). Sofware should be a One-time fee in 'most' cases (maybe vital server software for administrators/companies..but not for casual home user applications)...I would like to know that I can leave a box for 50 years, come back to it at some later point, and just update without having to shell out my credit card - it's just a form of making a system obselete, and it's not very respectful to people who use your software out of all the competition. Also, I can see hypothetically (or perhaps paranoidly) that sofware manufacturers will just keep old bugs until the next Subscription update as a form of forcing people to upgrade of face extreme viral consequences (I've heard people accuse Microsoft of doing this). IT IS NOT COOL, AND MAKES PEOPLE HESITANT TO GET TRAPPED WITH YOUR SOFTWARE.
Like I said, this is not particularly aimed at Linspire (an OS is clearly a 'major app'), but is still applicable.
Also, www.get-e.org is the best site i've come across for installing e17 (would have been lost without it).
As the enlightenment website says in 'news' somewhere, http://get-e.org/ is quite useful. It's probably less effort to follow this site then bothering to change your setup entirely. Go with whatever distribution you prefer.
Why is it uninhabited?
That's it, I've had enough of Slashdot for a few months.
In other news, BMW say it's cars are the best in the world, Roces claim they make the best skates, Calvin Klein claimed he made the best clothes, and the French Army said they were the best.
They cost loads...
pssst...you're browsing Slashdot.
Wow, a typo ('too' not 'to') and offtopic, and replying to the wrong parent (should have been to "Typical government study...")!! Looks like I'm burning through my karma today...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4396457. stm
Yes, I know it's slightly offtopic, but interesting, no?