Not only has Opera been available for Series 60 phones for ages, as other commenters have pointed out, it really sucks. I've got a Nokia 6600 (bad, bad phone), it runs Opera, and the browser is terrible for anything other than basic text rendering.
Opera used to be great, but it's way behind the curve nowadays.
The only reason they get away with it is because I hardly ever use the Web browser on the phone, since traffic is so expensive here.
Well I dunno if it's a Gimp killer... I mean the filters and stuff are cool, but a lot of the stuff I use Gimp for would require a fair bit of careful coding even with Core Image. Image layers, for example. A decent GUI, not that the Gimp has got that right either...
It'd definitely like it to happen though. Using the X11 port of Gimp on the Mac is kinda yucky.
If you're going to correct someone's grammar, you could at least keep your tenses straight. "I thought tiger looked very good". Or you could make it all present tense and write "I think Tiger looks very good". Alternatively, if you really want to keep that last past present-tense you could quote it and write something like, "Watching the Macworld keynote, I thought 'Tiger looks very good'". But then you start to sound pedantic and silly. Oh, wait...
Woah. I was just going to assume you were trolling but your other comments don't look trollish.
1MB? Are you serious? Do you realise the first design had 128K of memory and given memory prices in those days the cost of that 128K was a significant portion of the cost of the entire machine?
You're suggesting that they should have included ten times the amount of memory, in order to get a speed increase which you haven't actually demonstrated in any way. A well-designed, but memory-constrained, system will run faster if given more memory, but there is no evidence that 16K of system heap space was memory constraining. Also, I suspect that running out of system heap didn't make the original Mac run slow. I suspect it just made it crash.
No, it's a genuine problem. Bought my iBook about a year ago, treated it with the utmost care - if I wasn't using it it was in its padded sleeve. Never dropped it or maltreated it in anyway. And it's exhibited two problems so far - the logic board fault, and another problem where a sensor in the display becomes magnetised and the backlight goes off at odd moments.
you're comparing apples (hardware+software) and oranges (just software)
He's not, really. Bluetooth, external input devices, hard drives, cameras, scanners - all these things are third party hardware that Apple has no control over, and all of these things work wonderfully under OS X.
Sure, there's definitely *more* hardware to support under Linux, but that doesn't change the fact that when I plug my camera into my Mac, I get to download my pictures, and when I plug it into Linux, Linux crashes.
(And before you start: it's because hotplug wanted to load uhci rather than usb-uhci. uhci works for a couple of my USB devices, usb-uchi works for a couple of other (different) devices. After fiddling with hotplug for a while I concluded that it really wasn't mature software, which kind of emphasises the point I'm trying to make here.)
Not to mention that while embedded Linux may indeed be compiled from some of the same kernel source files, the result is nothing like what anybody would recognise as Linux. In this regard, I guess OS X *could* scale down as far as Linux - after all, the part of Linux that gets embedded - the kernel - is analogous to Darwin, which is open source.
ctrl-alt-del doesn't have its own interrupt. It's true that the keyboard *driver* intercepts this at a low level. The reason given, more than easy app killing, is to ensure that nobody can hijack that key combination during log-in.
Ah, you sum up the problems I was having with Nintendo's "kiddie" label well: I personally don't care if it's a "children's" console: it's got some great games for it. Then again, I'm 23, and out of the magical age where the perception of something as "kiddie" matters.
Yeah, it's impossible. You can't predict where the cursor is going. It's impossible. Well, impossible to be consistently accurate, anyway: I could make a confident swoop with the mouse towards the menu, then stop right before I hit it, above another application. The best you could do is apply what you suggested for menus and delay the change (known in UI design as hysteresis btw). Which incidentally isn't such a terrible idea.
I don't use it particularly often, but it's nice when I do: Tigerlaunch. Displays everything in your Applications folder, you can remove things you don't want to see there. Small, neat, useful.
I love slashdot for insular comments like this. Wait, no I don't. But I do look at it with a certain fondness.
Seriously, though. Almost 100% of the computing population run commercial closed source software on a commercial closed source operating system. They browse the Web using a closed-source browser, read email using a closed-source client, write documents with a closed-source wordprocessor. Microsoft is definitely going to lose market share to OSS, but if you and they were honest they'd admit that they never *had* that market share in the places that matter for OSS. Just look at the rise and rise of Apache, for example. You'll be hard-pressed to find Microsoft citing a potential OSS threat to their desktop environment, for example. And it's been the "year of Linux on the desktop" according to various OSS luminaries for how many years now? Perhaps four.
Even among geeks, there's a not-insignificant move to a closed-source OS - Mac OS X - simply because it's cool. What's been happening is a huge increase in support for open *standards* - HTML, XML, all the old Internet standards - because they allow interoperability.
I think you're being way too optimistic. Last time there was major competition in the browser field, it just made Web designer's lives hell because they had to work to the lowest common denominator. Do you remember sites with Netscape and IE-specific versions, or - potentially worse - those sites which attempted to guess your browser version to implemen their little tweaks?
Admittedly Netscape 4 was horrible and all browsers are moving closer to standards compliance nowadays but they're not all so close as to avoid a recurrence of the above IMO.
That article was nothing to do with browser innovation. Instead, it was yet another Mozilla enthusiast's attempt to understand Apple's decision to use KHTML rather than Gecko. It's understandable that Mozilla deveopers would be confused about this decision because Gecko is fairly obviously the better engine. However, as the writer acknowleges, KHTML has the killer advantage of easy-to-comprehend source code.
As for "Browser innovation", I consider Mozilla full-featured and standards-compliant to an exemplary degree, but I do not consider it innovative. I can only think of one feature that Mozilla has "innovated" since becoming Open Source, and that is XUL. The other things - themability, tabbed browsing, the sidebar, mouse gestures, popup blocking, etc, etc, were all copied from other browsers.
Mozilla is a worthy browser and IMO Gecko is the best rendering engine available. Nonetheless, I use Opera, and I think that's where the article writer comes unstuck. When choosing a browser, I don't think about XUL, and while I do care about standards-compliance, it has to take a back seat to usability.
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Well! There are hundreds. Here's one explaining that the Sun's energy isn't the result of continual bombardment of meteorites. Lamarck's theory of evolution predicted that siblings would share the phenotype of their parents, and they could change that phenotype during their lifetime. This was fairly easily debunked.
Literally, there are hundreds. That's how science advances, through the creation and disproval of scientific theories.
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> You can never prove an unrestricted negative. > Only contradictions are truly false.
Yes, and the whole point of proving a scientific theory wrong is to prove that it leads to a contradiction. If there is no way to demonstrate that the theory could be disproven, then it is not a scientific theory.
You mean it's been written with the latest design and coding ideas, to a high quality, tested, documentated and above all written by someone who cares about the program, without the bother of office politcs?
Similar to my experience. I was lucky, in that I went to a selective high school - ie, everyone was "smarter than the average bear". In this environment, nerds were respected, as long as they were good "all-rounders". The coolest people played some sort of sport in addition to doing well at school, having a wide general knowledge and perhaps having a "geeky" hobby. The people that *were* picked on were those who weren't well-rounded - those who didn't have the social skills to interact with others. The geeks, rather than the nerds... or is it the other way round?
At my HS, nobody was stuffed in to lockers either. The people who were picked on and beaten up where those who simply didn't have the requisite social skills to get along with others. It wasn't their fault - they just weren't socially "ready" to interact with the rest of the world.
And yes, that lack of social ability comes across as condescention, or awkwardness, or rudeness, or whatever. That doesn't mean that's the way it was intended.
You should have felt sorry for those people. They're going to have a hard time learning how to interact with people.
Oh come on. Everyone's talking about that one comment of his. Apple's made a whole *reputation* out of the physical elegance of their computers. While obviously complimentary, it's hardly partisan.
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Not only has Opera been available for Series 60 phones for ages, as other commenters have pointed out, it really sucks. I've got a Nokia 6600 (bad, bad phone), it runs Opera, and the browser is terrible for anything other than basic text rendering.
Opera used to be great, but it's way behind the curve nowadays.
The only reason they get away with it is because I hardly ever use the Web browser on the phone, since traffic is so expensive here.
Well I dunno if it's a Gimp killer... I mean the filters and stuff are cool, but a lot of the stuff I use Gimp for would require a fair bit of careful coding even with Core Image. Image layers, for example. A decent GUI, not that the Gimp has got that right either...
It'd definitely like it to happen though. Using the X11 port of Gimp on the Mac is kinda yucky.
If you're going to correct someone's grammar, you could at least keep your tenses straight. "I thought tiger looked very good". Or you could make it all present tense and write "I think Tiger looks very good". Alternatively, if you really want to keep that last past present-tense you could quote it and write something like, "Watching the Macworld keynote, I thought 'Tiger looks very good'". But then you start to sound pedantic and silly. Oh, wait...
Heh. Whoops!
Woah. I was just going to assume you were trolling but your other comments don't look trollish.
1MB? Are you serious? Do you realise the first design had 128K of memory and given memory prices in those days the cost of that 128K was a significant portion of the cost of the entire machine?
You're suggesting that they should have included ten times the amount of memory, in order to get a speed increase which you haven't actually demonstrated in any way. A well-designed, but memory-constrained, system will run faster if given more memory, but there is no evidence that 16K of system heap space was memory constraining. Also, I suspect that running out of system heap didn't make the original Mac run slow. I suspect it just made it crash.
No, it's a genuine problem. Bought my iBook about a year ago, treated it with the utmost care - if I wasn't using it it was in its padded sleeve. Never dropped it or maltreated it in anyway. And it's exhibited two problems so far - the logic board fault, and another problem where a sensor in the display becomes magnetised and the backlight goes off at odd moments.
I love my iBook but the faults are very annoying.
you're comparing apples (hardware+software) and oranges (just software)
He's not, really. Bluetooth, external input devices, hard drives, cameras, scanners - all these things are third party hardware that Apple has no control over, and all of these things work wonderfully under OS X.
Sure, there's definitely *more* hardware to support under Linux, but that doesn't change the fact that when I plug my camera into my Mac, I get to download my pictures, and when I plug it into Linux, Linux crashes.
(And before you start: it's because hotplug wanted to load uhci rather than usb-uhci. uhci works for a couple of my USB devices, usb-uchi works for a couple of other (different) devices. After fiddling with hotplug for a while I concluded that it really wasn't mature software, which kind of emphasises the point I'm trying to make here.)
Not to mention that while embedded Linux may indeed be compiled from some of the same kernel source files, the result is nothing like what anybody would recognise as Linux. In this regard, I guess OS X *could* scale down as far as Linux - after all, the part of Linux that gets embedded - the kernel - is analogous to Darwin, which is open source.
ctrl-alt-del doesn't have its own interrupt. It's true that the keyboard *driver* intercepts this at a low level. The reason given, more than easy app killing, is to ensure that nobody can hijack that key combination during log-in.
Ah, you sum up the problems I was having with Nintendo's "kiddie" label well: I personally don't care if it's a "children's" console: it's got some great games for it. Then again, I'm 23, and out of the magical age where the perception of something as "kiddie" matters.
The best part about this update is that JOGL, the new Java OpenGL library, now works.
http://jogl.dev.java.net
sudo softwareupdate
For example, iTunes does not need more than 4-GB of RAM,...
You obviously haven't seen my MP3 catalogue.
Yeah, it's impossible. You can't predict where the cursor is going. It's impossible. Well, impossible to be consistently accurate, anyway: I could make a confident swoop with the mouse towards the menu, then stop right before I hit it, above another application. The best you could do is apply what you suggested for menus and delay the change (known in UI design as hysteresis btw). Which incidentally isn't such a terrible idea.
I don't use it particularly often, but it's nice when I do: Tigerlaunch. Displays everything in your Applications folder, you can remove things you don't want to see there. Small, neat, useful.
I love slashdot for insular comments like this. Wait, no I don't. But I do look at it with a certain fondness.
Seriously, though. Almost 100% of the computing population run commercial closed source software on a commercial closed source operating system. They browse the Web using a closed-source browser, read email using a closed-source client, write documents with a closed-source wordprocessor. Microsoft is definitely going to lose market share to OSS, but if you and they were honest they'd admit that they never *had* that market share in the places that matter for OSS. Just look at the rise and rise of Apache, for example. You'll be hard-pressed to find Microsoft citing a potential OSS threat to their desktop environment, for example. And it's been the "year of Linux on the desktop" according to various OSS luminaries for how many years now? Perhaps four.
Even among geeks, there's a not-insignificant move to a closed-source OS - Mac OS X - simply because it's cool. What's been happening is a huge increase in support for open *standards* - HTML, XML, all the old Internet standards - because they allow interoperability.
I think you're being way too optimistic. Last time there was major competition in the browser field, it just made Web designer's lives hell because they had to work to the lowest common denominator. Do you remember sites with Netscape and IE-specific versions, or - potentially worse - those sites which attempted to guess your browser version to implemen their little tweaks?
Admittedly Netscape 4 was horrible and all browsers are moving closer to standards compliance nowadays but they're not all so close as to avoid a recurrence of the above IMO.
That article was nothing to do with browser innovation. Instead, it was yet another Mozilla enthusiast's attempt to understand Apple's decision to use KHTML rather than Gecko. It's understandable that Mozilla deveopers would be confused about this decision because Gecko is fairly obviously the better engine. However, as the writer acknowleges, KHTML has the killer advantage of easy-to-comprehend source code.
As for "Browser innovation", I consider Mozilla full-featured and standards-compliant to an exemplary degree, but I do not consider it innovative. I can only think of one feature that Mozilla has "innovated" since becoming Open Source, and that is XUL. The other things - themability, tabbed browsing, the sidebar, mouse gestures, popup blocking, etc, etc, were all copied from other browsers.
Mozilla is a worthy browser and IMO Gecko is the best rendering engine available. Nonetheless, I use Opera, and I think that's where the article writer comes unstuck. When choosing a browser, I don't think about XUL, and while I do care about standards-compliance, it has to take a back seat to usability.
RPG values?
"Bring me my +5 Sword of Information Hiding!"
Well! There are hundreds. Here's one explaining that the Sun's energy isn't the result of continual bombardment of meteorites. Lamarck's theory of evolution predicted that siblings would share the phenotype of their parents, and they could change that phenotype during their lifetime. This was fairly easily debunked.
Literally, there are hundreds. That's how science advances, through the creation and disproval of scientific theories.
> You can never prove an unrestricted negative.
> Only contradictions are truly false.
Yes, and the whole point of proving a scientific theory wrong is to prove that it leads to a contradiction. If there is no way to demonstrate that the theory could be disproven, then it is not a scientific theory.
You mean it's been written with the latest design and coding ideas, to a high quality, tested, documentated and above all written by someone who cares about the program, without the bother of office politcs?
:)
We obviously didn't attend the same university.
Similar to my experience. I was lucky, in that I went to a selective high school - ie, everyone was "smarter than the average bear". In this environment, nerds were respected, as long as they were good "all-rounders". The coolest people played some sort of sport in addition to doing well at school, having a wide general knowledge and perhaps having a "geeky" hobby. The people that *were* picked on were those who weren't well-rounded - those who didn't have the social skills to interact with others. The geeks, rather than the nerds... or is it the other way round?
They probably didn't.
At my HS, nobody was stuffed in to lockers either. The people who were picked on and beaten up where those who simply didn't have the requisite social skills to get along with others. It wasn't their fault - they just weren't socially "ready" to interact with the rest of the world.
And yes, that lack of social ability comes across as condescention, or awkwardness, or rudeness, or whatever. That doesn't mean that's the way it was intended.
You should have felt sorry for those people. They're going to have a hard time learning how to interact with people.
Oh come on. Everyone's talking about that one comment of his. Apple's made a whole *reputation* out of the physical elegance of their computers. While obviously complimentary, it's hardly partisan.