Essentially the same argument was used to justify abuse of workers in the late 19th/early 20th century, for example poor safety in the meatpacking industry that led to fingers cut off and deaths.
A crash bug? Mozilla has none of those, right? Right?
(seriously, if anything Microsoft should be proud that one pointless crash bug is such a big deal)
Netscape and Mozilla are almost the exact same thing--the only real difference is logo and the 50 AOL shortcuts that Netscape installs. Other than that, each version of Netscape is from a Mozilla build, and the programmers working on Netscape are basically the same ones working on Mozilla.
It's too bad, but books are not the biggest moneymakers right now. Most books sell about 30,000 copies, so it's pretty easy to see how the "Buy it used" thing could hurt sales. Amazon really needs to find some royalty deal that will please publishers, or it'll be th eauthors (and customers) who suffer.
"There is a world of difference between intentionally targeting civilians for mass murder and accidently killing civilians in a war zone"
If you were hit by a stray bomb and died would you care if it was intentional or accidental? Would you feel better if your found it was supposed to hit a military base?
"WE HAVE NO IDEA HOW MANY AFGHANI CIVILIANS HAVE BEEN KILLED"
So do you think if only 1 civilian was killed that would be acceptable? What if one of your relatives or friends were killed by a stray bomb. Or what if a bomb landed in one your street and destroyed your neighborhood (because there was a terrorist living there). Would that be acceptable?
Think before you talk so callously about peoples lives.
"And if they have been happening in secret, how do YOU know about them? "
It's not secret they exist... what goes on in the trials is kept secret. Pretty much censorship.
"And how do you know they were innocent people? You must be God."
I'm sure you've heard how many innocent people get killed in the US via death penalty, and we have due process and trials take years. Now, imagine a trial where the accused has barely any rights (as Bush said, he'll have more than suspects under the Taliban, which is a pretty laughable comparison -- might as well compare the rights of Jews in to the Nazis). God (me?:) knows how many innocent people will get executed. Of course since it's nice and secret, the public will never know.
"As for innocent, tell me how many innocent fuckers were in the Taliban and Al Qeida armies."
Obviously they're not innocent (though it's funny how the US supported the Taliban back in 70's or 80's). However as I said before people who are will be executed.
"It must be nice to hate America."
I don't hate America. I love manything about it including the culture and diversity. What I hate is how we go into other countries, total F them up, putting in dictators and whatever who supress the people. There are probably a hundred examples, (Taliban is one).
"You don't need evidence or any such thing to prove your point. Just a feeling that "kill-happy" folks are going to do something. If the US is so evil and kill-happy, why didn't we just nuke Afghanistan?"
You know more innocent civilians Afghanees have been killed compared to Sept. 11 (~2990). Here's an excert from an article on the Washington Post (obviously not some crackpot source):
"local residents in Paktia province said that as many as 60 people were killed when U.S. aircraft bombed a convoy carrying tribal elders on their way to Kabul to attend the swearing-in of Afghanistan's interim government"...[further down]..."University of New Hampshire professor Marc Herold, using international media reports, has estimated the total at more than 4,000.
"
Yep, the we sure are taking care of those life threatening tribal elders, good things we prevented them from attending the swearing in ceremony of the new government. Jesus... bomb happy fucks.
" This is a war. The US is bending over backwards to be nice to captured enemy troops, even though these troops are fighting in violation of the Third Geneva Convention (they target civilians, they don't wear uniforms to mark themselves as combatants, and they don't reveal their chain of command). Under international law, the US is well within its rights to shoot these fuckers with no trial at all."
Stop making things up. These tribunals are 100% secret. You/other civilians have no idea what is going on there.
With on the spot convictions/death penalty, god knows how many innocent people will be sentenced by these kill happy folks.
I'm not going to waste time responding to your whole spiel, but I picked out the stupidest thing.
" These are explicitly for non-US citizens caught abroad, trying to attack the US. US citizens aren't subject to them (they've got constitutional rights). Residents of the US aren't subject to them (the Supreme Court says that non-citizens who are residents of the US have constitutional rights). Stop being an idiot."
What are you talking about?! American lives are worth more than Afghan lives?! (or for that matter, Somalian, Ethiopian, Pakistani, Iraqi, etc?). Who the F cares if US citizens aren't subject to them. This is a total invasion of the human rights of the Afghanees.
You know these tribunals are exactly what the Soviet Union used during the Cold War. Read up on it. Americans haven't been exposed to this sort of thing, so they're not as sensetive to it.
Jesus... everyone is using terrorism to invade liberties and attack others. They've set up military tribunals, email/keyboard sniffing, hundreds of detnetions, racial profiling under this "terrorism" excuse. Even foreign countries are using it; China's calling Taiwan "terrorist," Russia says the Chechyns are "terrorists." It's absurd and ridiculus.
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ummm no. The point isn't injuries, it's that government protection of working conditions is neccessary.
Essentially the same argument was used to justify abuse of workers in the late 19th/early 20th century, for example poor safety in the meatpacking industry that led to fingers cut off and deaths.
"what it already has done to Tru64, Irix, HP/UX, AIX and Solaris"
What on earth are those? Doesn't seem very impressive that Linux beat Tru64 operating system...
"this guy is a postdoctoral fellow at Oxford?"
Remember, no one can use a PhD as a weapon. You cannot be hit by a PhD or harmed by it in any way.
Remember: No one can hit you with a PhD or use it as a weapon. A PhD is infact completely harmless to the average person.
Haha clever
You do realize that the "Mozilla" team is the Netscape team, which is owned by AOL?
A crash bug? Mozilla has none of those, right? Right? (seriously, if anything Microsoft should be proud that one pointless crash bug is such a big deal)
Is this in Pseudoscience Weekly?
Can anyone explain what either of these things signifies or what their impact is...for non-mathematicians?
Except....colonizing America was actually profitable...
Is "Yahoo!" the site or an exclamation in reaction to the article?
Besides, Netscape is not Mozilla.
Netscape and Mozilla are almost the exact same thing--the only real difference is logo and the 50 AOL shortcuts that Netscape installs. Other than that, each version of Netscape is from a Mozilla build, and the programmers working on Netscape are basically the same ones working on Mozilla.
Why would he have some prime number of fingers? 12 or 16 would make a lot more sense!
It's too bad, but books are not the biggest moneymakers right now. Most books sell about 30,000 copies, so it's pretty easy to see how the "Buy it used" thing could hurt sales. Amazon really needs to find some royalty deal that will please publishers, or it'll be th eauthors (and customers) who suffer.
Maybe they could have had a "Business Version" or something that cost money and had extra business features or something. Maybe :).
Here are your options:
1. Use Northern Light
2. Use Yahoo! and pay more than Northern Light for the same service.
Hmm
"There is a world of difference between intentionally targeting civilians for mass murder and accidently killing civilians in a war zone"
If you were hit by a stray bomb and died would you care if it was intentional or accidental? Would you feel better if your found it was supposed to hit a military base?
*cough*Watergate*cough*Iran-Contra*cough*Fidels assasination and many others is Latin America*cough*
And also...
"WE HAVE NO IDEA HOW MANY AFGHANI CIVILIANS HAVE BEEN KILLED"
So do you think if only 1 civilian was killed that would be acceptable? What if one of your relatives or friends were killed by a stray bomb. Or what if a bomb landed in one your street and destroyed your neighborhood (because there was a terrorist living there). Would that be acceptable?
Think before you talk so callously about peoples lives.
My god you are a dumbass. Just one more thing:
"NO TRIBUNALS HAVE OCCURED"
No, they haven't, but since they're secret, how can you be so sure?
Also, chill dude.
"And how do you know they were innocent people? You must be God." I'm sure you've heard how many innocent people get killed in the US via death penalty, and we have due process and trials take years. Now, imagine a trial where the accused has barely any rights (as Bush said, he'll have more than suspects under the Taliban, which is a pretty laughable comparison -- might as well compare the rights of Jews in to the Nazis). God (me?
"As for innocent, tell me how many innocent fuckers were in the Taliban and Al Qeida armies." Obviously they're not innocent (though it's funny how the US supported the Taliban back in 70's or 80's). However as I said before people who are will be executed.
"It must be nice to hate America." I don't hate America. I love manything about it including the culture and diversity. What I hate is how we go into other countries, total F them up, putting in dictators and whatever who supress the people. There are probably a hundred examples, (Taliban is one).
"You don't need evidence or any such thing to prove your point. Just a feeling that "kill-happy" folks are going to do something. If the US is so evil and kill-happy, why didn't we just nuke Afghanistan?" You know more innocent civilians Afghanees have been killed compared to Sept. 11 (~2990). Here's an excert from an article on the Washington Post (obviously not some crackpot source): Yep, the we sure are taking care of those life threatening tribal elders, good things we prevented them from attending the swearing in ceremony of the new government. Jesus... bomb happy fucks.
Well it was nice talking to you. If you haven't already, read A People's History of the US (Zinn).
" This is a war. The US is bending over backwards to be nice to captured enemy troops, even though these troops are fighting in violation of the Third Geneva Convention (they target civilians, they don't wear uniforms to mark themselves as combatants, and they don't reveal their chain of command). Under international law, the US is well within its rights to shoot these fuckers with no trial at all."
Stop making things up. These tribunals are 100% secret. You/other civilians have no idea what is going on there.
With on the spot convictions/death penalty, god knows how many innocent people will be sentenced by these kill happy folks.
I'm not going to waste time responding to your whole spiel, but I picked out the stupidest thing.
" These are explicitly for non-US citizens caught abroad, trying to attack the US. US citizens aren't subject to them (they've got constitutional rights). Residents of the US aren't subject to them (the Supreme Court says that non-citizens who are residents of the US have constitutional rights). Stop being an idiot."
What are you talking about?! American lives are worth more than Afghan lives?! (or for that matter, Somalian, Ethiopian, Pakistani, Iraqi, etc?). Who the F cares if US citizens aren't subject to them. This is a total invasion of the human rights of the Afghanees.
You know these tribunals are exactly what the Soviet Union used during the Cold War. Read up on it. Americans haven't been exposed to this sort of thing, so they're not as sensetive to it.
Jesus... everyone is using terrorism to invade liberties and attack others. They've set up military tribunals, email/keyboard sniffing, hundreds of detnetions, racial profiling under this "terrorism" excuse. Even foreign countries are using it; China's calling Taiwan "terrorist," Russia says the Chechyns are "terrorists." It's absurd and ridiculus.