My guess is that this behaviour will work in any desktop-oriented distribution.
If Gentoo/Slackware/Debian/(insert a hacker/server-oriented-distribution here) does not work like this is, well, because they are not DESKTOP-ORIENTED.
"double click a PACKAGE" or something equivalent. Happy now? Why can't software installations on Linux be that easy without limiting yourself to a narrow set of distributions?
Mmmmm
At least in Mandrake, a desktop-oriented distribution, you can just do this:
* open the GUI file browser and double-click an RPM, and you get a dialog to insert root's password to proceed to the installation of such package.
That is the expected behaviour in a desktop Linux distribution, and this is what you get.
You can use apt-get on: Debian (which is its official package installer/mantainer/system updater), Red Hat, Mandrake, Fedora and SuSE.
OR
You can use YUM on: Red Hat, Mandrake, Fedora (which is the official package installer/mantainer/system updater), CentOS (which is the official package installer/mantainer/system updater) and SuSE.
OR
You can use urpmi on: Mandrake, which is the official package installer/mantainer/system updater
OR
You can use YAST on: SuSE, which is the official package installer/mantainer/system updater
OR
You can use up2date on: Red Hat, which is the official package installer/mantainer/system updater
All the above solutions compute dependencies and install required packages.
And all of them have both pretty GUIs and nice command-line interfeces.
If you have "dependency hell" in 2004 is because you are not using the tools available since, at least, 3 years ago.
Wow, linux really IS ready for the desktop! That was so much easier than "click here for windows update"
1. your "windows update" only does bugfixing
2. You have one-click "MandrakeUpdate" for bug-fixing
3. The above mentioned steps are meant to upgrade the whole OS + programs to its newest version, on a live system. It's not easy-peasy because you are potentially updating +8,000 programs.
4. You cannot upgrade from Windows 2000 to Windows 2003, plus all your programs installed in a "Windows Computer" using Windows Update.
5. Of course, you can reboot the PC with CD-1 from new version, choose upgrade existing Linux... and, tah-dah! you upgrade with half-a-dozen mouse-clicks. That's as easy as it gets, but then, you need to bring your system down during the upgrade.
Programs in Mandrake came in the form of "rpm-packages"
Those rpm-packages are mirrored in ftp servers around the world.
A ftp server that mirrors Mandrake rpm-packages, also contains an "index file" (hdlist.cz) with meta-information about those packages.
A ftp server with Mandrake rpm-packages plus this "index file" is called a "package source" in "Mandrake speak"
From Mandrake Control Center, you can configure "rpmdrake/urpmi" to install packages from a "package source", pretty much like Debian uses apt-get and FedoraCore uses Yum.
"rpmdrake/urpmi" are: the core "classic rpm" plus perl scripts that solve "dependency hell" . One (rpmdrake) is a GUI tool, the other (urpmi) is the text-based tool under rpmdrake's hood.
To Upgrade a Mandrake from version n to n+1, go to Mandrake Control Center, change rpm-package sources so now point to new Mandrake release, and then, do a "update packages" to upgrade all packages and end with new Mandrake version.
1. Exit graphical environment and go to console (Ctrl-Alt-F1) 2. login as root and switch to runlevel 3 (telinit 3) 3. urpmi.removemedia -a 4. go to http://urpmi.org/easyurpmi/index.php and set up sources for the release you want to upgrade to 5. urpmi --test urpmi (test if urpmi's upgrade works) [Note 2] 6. urpmi urpmi (if you get no errors in previous step) 7. urpmi --auto --auto-select --test (we want to make sure upgrade will work. If you have non-official rpms, this could cause trouble. Write down offending rpms/files, remove them and try again) [Note 3] 8. urpmi --auto --auto-select 9. urpmi kernel 10. reboot
[Note 1] This could not work if: * you have used "--force" before to install packages * you install rpms from untrusted origin * you install rpms not specific for Mandrake * you install with "./configure && make && make install" instead of using "./configure && make && checkinstall"
[Note 2]: the --test option is great because:
i. it downloads all needed rpm-packages ii. it tests the installation and provide quite clear error messages iii. it does *not* delete downloaded rpm-packages iv. it does *not* change your current programs. v. when happy and you do not use "--test", as all the packages are already downloaded, your upgrade takes less time.
[Note 3]: If you get a message like "Packge foobar cannot be installed because it conflicts with file/usr/lib/foo-bar-0.1.2.so.3", remove the package with offending file. Which package contains offending file? Type "rpm -qf/usr/lib/foo-bar-0.1.2.so.3" and remove the package with "urpme offendingpackage". After completing the upgrade, install new version of package with "urpmi offendingpackage" if needed/
I just opened the file browser (konqueror), clicked on a src.rpm (source rpm) icon, I got a GUI dialog that asked for root password and then I got a dialog that asked me:
------QUOTE---------- You have selected a source package:/home/opkool/Downloads/bzip2-1.0.2-18mdk.src.rpm You probably didn't want to install it on your computer (installing it would allow you to make modifications to its sourcecode then compile it).
The cost of fuel and the proper comparisson of energy per gallon has already been commented by previus posters.
The diesel's "enviromental uglyness" it's a little of "FUD":
1. sulfur polution (NOx emissions) is caused by US diesel. When US diesel is completely ULSD (ultra low sulfur diesel, sometime around 2006) sulfur polution will diminish dramaticaly. Other advanced nations (Europe, Japan) have been using ULSD for a while now, and pollution is down. USLD is a diesel with only about 15 ppm (parts per milion) of sulfur, compared with the 500 ppm of standard US diesel (3% of current amount!) See http://www.dieselnet.com/standards/fuels/us.html and http://www.house.gov/commerce_democrats/press/107l tr173.htm
2. not only sulfur emissions polute. There are 2 kinds of emissions.: NOx (air quality) and COx (greenhouse). Diesel engines produce higher levels of NOx pollution than Gas engines. But (modern) Diesel engines produce much lower COx emissions, as diesel engines burn fuel more efficiently, due to higher compression. Wanna fight greenhouse effect? drive a diesel.
3. If you take into account that Diesel engines burn less amount of fuel to move around, the total amount of emissions is quite low. Unfortunately, as gas engines are so commoon, EPA's emission control levels value a lot NOx emissions, and value less COx. Bias?
4. With ULSD, NOx emissions for diesel engines, plus the new "diesel catalizers" (now being test-driven in Europe and Japan), diesel engines are in the track of being more enviromentaly friendly than gas engines. Of course, with better milleage, total emissions are really low.
5. And you have BioDiesel. This non-fosil fuel has virtualy no NOx emissions, which can be grown at $HOME.
So, right now, with a modern Diesel engine you get:
- better mileage - pay less per gallon of fuel - lower COx emissions - If you live in the US, NOx emissions will be lowered in 2006, when ULSD is mandatory in the US - you get a ton of torque, so it's fun to drive - Diesel it's a proven technology - plenty gas stations already offer diesel (And with 500m range, you can be picky on your fueling stations)
BTW, I drive diesel (TDi), getting 48mpg average (from 42 to 52).
They say : How easy it gets to install software not included with the distro?
Mandrake has urpmi. You set it up with "Easy URPMI" (google for it) and you will have available more than EIGHT THOUSAND packages (see http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/twiki/bin/view/Main/Rel easesHistory), installable either through a mouse-click interface or through a command line utility (urpmi) that works like apt-get.
Also, the Shootout claims that Lindows installs way faster than the other distros. Well, if you install practicaly nothing, the installation will go fast. On the other hand, Mandrake comes with 3 CDs to start with.
WTF do they say about Flash, RealPlayer and streaming media? If you buy the boxed Mandrake (or pay the MDK Club), you get al that.
The claim "how easy was to install", for Mandrake and Fedora is plain untrue. I mean, to install you just need to click "Next" a few times and you are done.
The claim "easy of notification of software updates"... well, those guys never used MandrakeUpdate nor rhn-applet. Here, we call this "lies".
Classifying Fedora as more "multimedia-ready" than Mandrake, well, this is just wrong.
What are they saying about Digital Camera not working with Mandrake nor Fedora? On Mandrake, I plug my camera, start the camera rpogram (digiKam/gphoto...), it gets auto-detected and everything works *without my intervention*.
The claim "if new to Linux, rate overall easy of use". Well, I just don't think that Fedora can be easier than Mandrake. Mandrake is called "the distro for newbies" for a reason. Friendly, good looking, with wizards...
All this added up tells me that Lindows has an agenda.
One error is a mistake. Multiple errors, on almost every single point, that's a set up.
Both "boxed Mandrake" and "Mandrake from MDK Club" (that is, paying Mandrake) ship with Flash player, RealPlayer, J2RE, nVidia drivers, Winmodem drivers... all that non-GPL stuff.
I have yet another problem with this 3-in-1 distribution. They are distributing Mandrake 10.0 **Community** edition, that is, the "preview" version for the Official Mandrake 10.0. The Official version (the one that goes into official mirrors (in the form of ISOs and rpms) and into the boxes that you can buy.
The Community edition needs a ton of updates to fix all the bugs found during the development step "Community-to-Official". So they are kinda giving Mandrake a bad name (insert your conspiracy theory here), as they are shipping a "kown broken" (release candidate with already located and fixed bugs) distribution, when there's available MDK Official version, with all those bugs corrected.
Aside from that, it's a nice thing to ship 3 distros together. Lots of PC users are still on POTS+Modem, and all those ISOs are a pain to download.
CD4 is only available for MDK Club members. If you are not a member, you will not have aces to the ISO.
Although, don't worry. All the contents are accessible through urpmi/rpmdrake (Mandrake's YasT/apt-get/yum software installation rpogram) . Just add the "main" and "contrib" sources to urpmi from the Easy URPMI page here:
Actualy, White Box Linux is a mixed bag: on one hand, it is a free recompile of RHEL. On the other hand, this is a one-man-show, who refuses to ackowledge help offers and who is not ontop of security fixes.
If you are interested in "Whitebox Linux", most probably you would like to try out CentOS.
CentOS is the same idea that whiteBoxLinux, with a few differences:
- CentOS is a community driven project, instead of a one-man-show. - CentOS cares about security updates. - CentOS has several "flavours" to suit your needs.
Umm... Mandrake gives the community it's "shitty" version and yes I know it is shitty because I've tried it. Then forces you to pay for anything worthwhile.
Sir, you are grossly uninformed.
Mandrakelinux provides Mandrakelinux Community as an "early preview" of the next version. It should be expected to find problems in a "preview such as Mandrakelinux Community.
Also, if you cared a single bit, you could have updated your Community to Official using urpmi/rpmdrake. This would fix most/all of your troubles.
Mandrakelinux $ANY_VERSION (Community, Official...) rpms are available to everybody from Day 1. The ISOs are available first to MDK Club members first. Later, the ISOs become available to everybody. This means that if you pay, you can get the ISOs early, before the servers get "slashdotted". You pay to get a beneffit.
But, again, the rpms are available from Day 1. And, using urpmi, you can upgrade your Mandrakelinux version from the ftp servers, without a need for ISOs. Pretty much like Debian with apt-get.
You ara probably dissatisfied with Mandrakelinux Community. Well, this is (was) the "preview", a testing vresion of the "Final" 10.0 version.
MandrakeSoft explains how their development system works, and what a "Community" and an "Official" thing are here.
[root@mdkserver root]# urpmi --test apt To satisfy dependencies, the following packages are going to be installed (2 MB): apt-0.5.5cnc6-2mdk.i586 libapt-pkg0-0.5.5cn c6-2mdk.i586 Is this OK? (Y/n) [root@mdkserver root]# cat/etc/mandrake-release Mandrake Linux release 9.2 (FiveStar) for i586
The price of a similar set up (OS + Development Studio + ToolKit + Database Server + groupware APIs + web server +...) for the "other" OS (yes, the one from Redmond, WA) is, at least 5-fold.
And, if you decide to use QT to develop GPL software, your cost goes down to zero. On the other platorm, the cost remains the same... and probably you cannot GPL the whole code.
Of course, you can opt to build GTK-based applications.
So, in short:
- it is cheaper - you have choice of toolkits - you have choice of license for your code
1.- Configure urpmi so it has PLF as one of it sources (see http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/). You can use the command line or the GUI (MDK Control Center -> Software Management -> Software Sources Manager)
2.- using the command line or the GUI "RpmDrake", install:
3.- configure gmplayer so it points to your proper DVD device
4.- Watch the DVD.
It's simple, yet not obvious.
Why not have DVD-player working out-of-the-box? Well, there are some legal problems that block having DVD-players to work out-of-the-box in Linux distributions.
Yes, blame the MPAA, the DMCA and the movie studios instead of blaming Linux distributors that must abide by the law (stupid law, but the law nonetheless).
Also, folowing this message's instructions is against existing law in several countries, including USA, UK and France.
1.- Download the file openssh-3.7p1-1.src.rpm from any of the mirrors. For example: ftp://ftp.easynet.be/openssh/portable/rp m/SRPMS/op enssh-3.7p1-1.src.rpm
Slashdot Mirror
Just tried with SuSE and it worked as expected.
My guess is that this behaviour will work in any desktop-oriented distribution.
If Gentoo/Slackware/Debian/(insert a hacker/server-oriented-distribution here) does not work like this is, well, because they are not DESKTOP-ORIENTED.
Hope this helps.
Peace
"double click a PACKAGE" or something equivalent. Happy now? Why can't software installations on Linux be that easy without limiting yourself to a narrow set of distributions?
Mmmmm
At least in Mandrake, a desktop-oriented distribution, you can just do this:
* open the GUI file browser and double-click an RPM, and you get a dialog to insert root's password to proceed to the installation of such package.
That is the expected behaviour in a desktop Linux distribution, and this is what you get.
Peace.
You can use apt-get on: Debian (which is its official package installer/mantainer/system updater), Red Hat, Mandrake, Fedora and SuSE.
OR
You can use YUM on: Red Hat, Mandrake, Fedora (which is the official package installer/mantainer/system updater), CentOS (which is the official package installer/mantainer/system updater) and SuSE.
OR
You can use urpmi on: Mandrake, which is the official package installer/mantainer/system updater
OR
You can use YAST on: SuSE, which is the official package installer/mantainer/system updater
OR
You can use up2date on: Red Hat, which is the official package installer/mantainer/system updater
All the above solutions compute dependencies and install required packages.
And all of them have both pretty GUIs and nice command-line interfeces.
If you have "dependency hell" in 2004 is because you are not using the tools available since, at least, 3 years ago.
Peace!
Not only Shuttle.
Compaq^H^H^H^H^H HP and Carrefour ship computers with Mandrake Linux installed.
Peace!
Wow, linux really IS ready for the desktop! That was so much easier than "click here for windows update"
1. your "windows update" only does bugfixing
2. You have one-click "MandrakeUpdate" for bug-fixing
3. The above mentioned steps are meant to upgrade the whole OS + programs to its newest version, on a live system. It's not easy-peasy because you are potentially updating +8,000 programs.
4. You cannot upgrade from Windows 2000 to Windows 2003, plus all your programs installed in a "Windows Computer" using Windows Update.
5. Of course, you can reboot the PC with CD-1 from new version, choose upgrade existing Linux... and, tah-dah! you upgrade with half-a-dozen mouse-clicks. That's as easy as it gets, but then, you need to bring your system down during the upgrade.
Peace!
Programs in Mandrake came in the form of "rpm-packages"
Those rpm-packages are mirrored in ftp servers around the world.
A ftp server that mirrors Mandrake rpm-packages, also contains an "index file" (hdlist.cz) with meta-information about those packages.
A ftp server with Mandrake rpm-packages plus this "index file" is called a "package source" in "Mandrake speak"
From Mandrake Control Center, you can configure "rpmdrake/urpmi" to install packages from a "package source", pretty much like Debian uses apt-get and FedoraCore uses Yum.
"rpmdrake/urpmi" are: the core "classic rpm" plus perl scripts that solve "dependency hell" . One (rpmdrake) is a GUI tool, the other (urpmi) is the text-based tool under rpmdrake's hood.
To Upgrade a Mandrake from version n to n+1, go to Mandrake Control Center, change rpm-package sources so now point to new Mandrake release, and then, do a "update packages" to upgrade all packages and end with new Mandrake version.
I hope this makes clear what he said..
Peace!
Don't do this!
/usr/lib/foo-bar-0.1.2.so.3", remove the package with offending file. Which package contains offending file? Type "rpm -qf /usr/lib/foo-bar-0.1.2.so.3" and remove the package with "urpme offendingpackage". After completing the upgrade, install new version of package with "urpmi offendingpackage" if needed/
A safer way [Note 1]:
1. Exit graphical environment and go to console (Ctrl-Alt-F1)
2. login as root and switch to runlevel 3 (telinit 3)
3. urpmi.removemedia -a
4. go to http://urpmi.org/easyurpmi/index.php and set up sources for the release you want to upgrade to
5. urpmi --test urpmi (test if urpmi's upgrade works) [Note 2]
6. urpmi urpmi (if you get no errors in previous step)
7. urpmi --auto --auto-select --test (we want to make sure upgrade will work. If you have non-official rpms, this could cause trouble. Write down offending rpms/files, remove them and try again) [Note 3]
8. urpmi --auto --auto-select
9. urpmi kernel
10. reboot
[Note 1] This could not work if:
* you have used "--force" before to install packages
* you install rpms from untrusted origin
* you install rpms not specific for Mandrake
* you install with "./configure && make && make install" instead of using "./configure && make && checkinstall"
[Note 2]: the --test option is great because:
i. it downloads all needed rpm-packages
ii. it tests the installation and provide quite clear error messages
iii. it does *not* delete downloaded rpm-packages
iv. it does *not* change your current programs.
v. when happy and you do not use "--test", as all the packages are already downloaded, your upgrade takes less time.
[Note 3]: If you get a message like "Packge foobar cannot be installed because it conflicts with file
Peace!
(upgrading Mandrake with urpmi since 8.1)
Errr, you are miss-informed.
/home/opkool/Downloads/bzip2-1.0.2-18mdk.src.rpm
In my Mandrakelinux 10.0-Oficial:
I just opened the file browser (konqueror), clicked on a src.rpm (source rpm) icon, I got a GUI dialog that asked for root password and then I got a dialog that asked me:
------QUOTE----------
You have selected a source package:
You probably didn't want to install it on your computer (installing it
would allow you to make modifications to its sourcecode then compile it).
What would you like to do?
[Do nothing] [Yes, really install it] [Save file]
------END QUOTE----------
As you see, it was a source-rpm. And it gave me a proper answer. That is what I call good configuration.
Mandrake has the expected behaviour by default, as my installation is 99.999% original & official.
Peace!
yeah.
Check out the "free" options you get with a base TDi.
Compare a similary loaded Corolla: ABS, multiple airbags, power-windows, power mirrors, sound system, interior...
And do not forget the german-car spirit. VWs drive nice. Toyotas have no spirit.
Peace
The cost of fuel and the proper comparisson of energy per gallon has already been commented by previus posters.
:
l tr173.htm
The diesel's "enviromental uglyness" it's a little of "FUD"
1. sulfur polution (NOx emissions) is caused by US diesel. When US diesel is completely ULSD (ultra low sulfur diesel, sometime around 2006) sulfur polution will diminish dramaticaly. Other advanced nations (Europe, Japan) have been using ULSD for a while now, and pollution is down. USLD is a diesel with only about 15 ppm (parts per milion) of sulfur, compared with the 500 ppm of standard US diesel (3% of current amount!) See http://www.dieselnet.com/standards/fuels/us.html and http://www.house.gov/commerce_democrats/press/107
2. not only sulfur emissions polute. There are 2 kinds of emissions.: NOx (air quality) and COx (greenhouse). Diesel engines produce higher levels of NOx pollution than Gas engines. But (modern) Diesel engines produce much lower COx emissions, as diesel engines burn fuel more efficiently, due to higher compression. Wanna fight greenhouse effect? drive a diesel.
3. If you take into account that Diesel engines burn less amount of fuel to move around, the total amount of emissions is quite low. Unfortunately, as gas engines are so commoon, EPA's emission control levels value a lot NOx emissions, and value less COx. Bias?
4. With ULSD, NOx emissions for diesel engines, plus the new "diesel catalizers" (now being test-driven in Europe and Japan), diesel engines are in the track of being more enviromentaly friendly than gas engines. Of course, with better milleage, total emissions are really low.
5. And you have BioDiesel. This non-fosil fuel has virtualy no NOx emissions, which can be grown at $HOME.
So, right now, with a modern Diesel engine you get:
- better mileage
- pay less per gallon of fuel
- lower COx emissions
- If you live in the US, NOx emissions will be lowered in 2006, when ULSD is mandatory in the US
- you get a ton of torque, so it's fun to drive
- Diesel it's a proven technology
- plenty gas stations already offer diesel (And with 500m range, you can be picky on your fueling stations)
BTW, I drive diesel (TDi), getting 48mpg average (from 42 to 52).
Peace!
More:
l easesHistory), installable either through a mouse-click interface or through a command line utility (urpmi) that works like apt-get.
They say : How easy it gets to install software not included with the distro?
Mandrake has urpmi. You set it up with "Easy URPMI" (google for it) and you will have available more than EIGHT THOUSAND packages (see http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/twiki/bin/view/Main/Re
Also, the Shootout claims that Lindows installs way faster than the other distros. Well, if you install practicaly nothing, the installation will go fast. On the other hand, Mandrake comes with 3 CDs to start with.
WTF do they say about Flash, RealPlayer and streaming media? If you buy the boxed Mandrake (or pay the MDK Club), you get al that.
The claim "how easy was to install", for Mandrake and Fedora is plain untrue. I mean, to install you just need to click "Next" a few times and you are done.
The claim "easy of notification of software updates"... well, those guys never used MandrakeUpdate nor rhn-applet. Here, we call this "lies".
Classifying Fedora as more "multimedia-ready" than Mandrake, well, this is just wrong.
What are they saying about Digital Camera not working with Mandrake nor Fedora? On Mandrake, I plug my camera, start the camera rpogram (digiKam/gphoto...), it gets auto-detected and everything works *without my intervention*.
The claim "if new to Linux, rate overall easy of use". Well, I just don't think that Fedora can be easier than Mandrake. Mandrake is called "the distro for newbies" for a reason. Friendly, good looking, with wizards...
All this added up tells me that Lindows has an agenda.
One error is a mistake. Multiple errors, on almost every single point, that's a set up.
Absolutely.
Both "boxed Mandrake" and "Mandrake from MDK Club" (that is, paying Mandrake) ship with Flash player, RealPlayer, J2RE, nVidia drivers, Winmodem drivers... all that non-GPL stuff.
I have yet another problem with this 3-in-1 distribution. They are distributing Mandrake 10.0 **Community** edition, that is, the "preview" version for the Official Mandrake 10.0. The Official version (the one that goes into official mirrors (in the form of ISOs and rpms) and into the boxes that you can buy.
The Community edition needs a ton of updates to fix all the bugs found during the development step "Community-to-Official". So they are kinda giving Mandrake a bad name (insert your conspiracy theory here), as they are shipping a "kown broken" (release candidate with already located and fixed bugs) distribution, when there's available MDK Official version, with all those bugs corrected.
Aside from that, it's a nice thing to ship 3 distros together. Lots of PC users are still on POTS+Modem, and all those ISOs are a pain to download.
Peace!
Mmmm,
a in/Rel easesHistory
Maybe having more than 8,000 (eight thousand) packages available to everybody, is not enough for you.
And no cripple-ware found at all.
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/twiki/bin/view/M
Peace
CD4 is only available for MDK Club members. If you are not a member, you will not have aces to the ISO.
Although, don't worry. All the contents are accessible through urpmi/rpmdrake (Mandrake's YasT/apt-get/yum software installation rpogram) . Just add the "main" and "contrib" sources to urpmi from the Easy URPMI page here:
http://www.urpmi.org/easyurpmi/
See? All nice and easy.
Peace
Actualy, White Box Linux is a mixed bag: on one hand, it is a free recompile of RHEL. On the other hand, this is a one-man-show, who refuses to ackowledge help offers and who is not ontop of security fixes.
If you are interested in "Whitebox Linux", most probably you would like to try out CentOS.
CentOS is the same idea that whiteBoxLinux, with a few differences:
- CentOS is a community driven project, instead of a one-man-show.
- CentOS cares about security updates.
- CentOS has several "flavours" to suit your needs.
See CentOS here.
Peace!
Umm... Mandrake gives the community it's "shitty" version and yes I know it is shitty because I've tried it. Then forces you to pay for anything worthwhile.
Sir, you are grossly uninformed.
Mandrakelinux provides Mandrakelinux Community as an "early preview" of the next version. It should be expected to find problems in a "preview such as Mandrakelinux Community.
Also, if you cared a single bit, you could have updated your Community to Official using urpmi/rpmdrake. This would fix most/all of your troubles.
Mandrakelinux $ANY_VERSION (Community, Official...) rpms are available to everybody from Day 1. The ISOs are available first to MDK Club members first. Later, the ISOs become available to everybody. This means that if you pay, you can get the ISOs early, before the servers get "slashdotted". You pay to get a beneffit.
But, again, the rpms are available from Day 1. And, using urpmi, you can upgrade your Mandrakelinux version from the ftp servers, without a need for ISOs. Pretty much like Debian with apt-get.
You ara probably dissatisfied with Mandrakelinux Community. Well, this is (was) the "preview", a testing vresion of the "Final" 10.0 version.
MandrakeSoft explains how their development system works, and what a "Community" and an "Official" thing are here.
Peace
Mandrake 10 community doesnt have kernel src to compile new drivers
Then, am I dreaming or what? I installed the kernel-source package easily, using urpmi:
urpmi --wget kernel-source
And it is installed
rpm -q kernel-source
kernel-source-2.6.3-7mdk
I needed the kernel source to install nVidia drivers. Now I can play Tux at decent FPS.
Peace!
There are a few "Mandrake for Debian Users" in this website (in Spanish, though):
here here here and here
Peace!
IANAL but I thought that trademarks must relate to a specific area of trade, like "literature" or "automotion" or...
Can someone clarify this?
Then Microsoft has to sue the h*ll out Home Depot, as they also sell "Windows".
Peace,
Opkool
Do you really want to use apt-get?
n c6-2mdk.i586 /etc/mandrake-release
[root@mdkserver root]# urpmi --test apt
To satisfy dependencies, the following packages are going to be installed (2 MB):
apt-0.5.5cnc6-2mdk.i586
libapt-pkg0-0.5.5c
Is this OK? (Y/n)
[root@mdkserver root]# cat
Mandrake Linux release 9.2 (FiveStar) for i586
So you also can have apt-get.
Happy holidays
Please, when the monkeys do fly out of your butt (circa 2006), videotape it and put the mpeg on BitTorrent.
Thank you in advance.
Mmmm
...) for the "other" OS (yes, the one from Redmond, WA) is, at least 5-fold.
The price of a similar set up (OS + Development Studio + ToolKit + Database Server + groupware APIs + web server +
And, if you decide to use QT to develop GPL software, your cost goes down to zero. On the other platorm, the cost remains the same... and probably you cannot GPL the whole code.
Of course, you can opt to build GTK-based applications.
So, in short:
- it is cheaper
- you have choice of toolkits
- you have choice of license for your code
I say developing for Linux is better.
Peace
Watching DVDs in Mandrake.
- codecs-1.2-1plfe cs-1.4-2plf
1.- Configure urpmi so it has PLF as one of it sources (see http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/). You can use the command line or the GUI (MDK Control Center -> Software Management -> Software Sources Manager)
2.- using the command line or the GUI "RpmDrake", install:
mplayer-skins
mplayer1.0-gui
mplayer1.0
real
xanim-codecs-1.0-3plf
win32-cod
3.- configure gmplayer so it points to your proper DVD device
4.- Watch the DVD.
It's simple, yet not obvious.
Why not have DVD-player working out-of-the-box? Well, there are some legal problems that block having DVD-players to work out-of-the-box in Linux distributions.
Yes, blame the MPAA, the DMCA and the movie studios instead of blaming Linux distributors that must abide by the law (stupid law, but the law nonetheless).
Also, folowing this message's instructions is against existing law in several countries, including USA, UK and France.
Peace!
(mod parent up!)
M an drake/
Exactly, Samba-3.0.0 is in the contrib section.
Also, Buchan Milne (the guy who packages Samba+LDAP for Mandrake) has already built Samba-3.0.0 for Mandrake 8.0, 8.1, 8.2, 9.0, 9.1 . See:
http://us3.samba.org/samba/ftp/Binary_Packages/
I belive that Buchan is the one who packaged Samba for MDK 9.2's contrib.
Peace!
How to fix your RedHat box:
p m/SRPMS/op enssh-3.7p1-1.src.rpm
.rpm for your RedHat Linux version:
/usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i386/openssh-*.rpm
1.- Download the file openssh-3.7p1-1.src.rpm from any of the mirrors. For example:
ftp://ftp.easynet.be/openssh/portable/r
2.- Build an
# rpm --rebuild openssh-3.7p1-1.src.rpm
3.- Upgrade your OpenSSH packages:
# rpm -Fvh
4.- Re-start your sshd daemon:
service sshd restart
5. Profit!^H^H^H^H^H errr, that's it.
Peace.