My wife got the game cuz she was a big Diablo fan. We played it one computer here, did a special Windows install just for it. Never took the thing online (Hey, it's a Windows machine.....are you crazy?)
So we spent all that money on the game and after about 6 hours of play time the CD box now sits on the top shelf collecting dust. Why?
Because I still can't find a Linux patch for the game and I'm not going to shut everything down and do a reboot just to play some silly game.
Fuck that.
At this point I figure if a game is worth my hard earned money then they'll put out a version that I can play without a reboot.
Take a look at http://www.zetron.com/english/front/scada.html
That's one good example of whats available to do what you want to do. Their gear will interface between your sensors and the transmission media (wire, radio, whatever).
If the Zetron stuff interests you then contact your local two way radio company (most sell zetron) and if they can't help you contact Mountain Communications at 208-263-8226 and ask for Thor.
I don't know about e-commerce but I suspect that Motorola has been using Impact21 data to help my competitor move into my area.
The competition I speak of is Motorola's largest dealer in the west, they are very friendly with each other. Suddenly that competition wants my area and starts finding out handy facts about who buys what here, what kind of business they are and how much I've sold the equipment for. Things that make me go "hmmmmm".
It begins to stink when the salesman for Motorola's "golden boy" dealership walks into my customers office with a quote for exactly the equipment they use and their quote beats mine by a few dollars right off the bat. That wouldn't be such a suprise on the second or third visit after the competition has built a relationship with the customer and learned a few things, but to have a detailed quote right out of the shoot???
Motorola doesn't even take that approach. There is no warranty card. Warranty repairs are tracked by serial number, which is electronicly stored within the radio, and the equipment is repaired only based on that. It doesn't matter who is in possession of the equipment, if the serial number is within the warranty period, it's covered.
Secondly, There is a rat. The article neglects to point out that Motorola does not allow our radio customers to opt-out of the program. In fact, they don't mention the program to our customers, nor do the give us anything (promo material, forms, etc.) to inform our customers about the program or give them a change to say "no Mr. radio dealer, I don't want you to share our information with anyone else".
Maybe I'm way off base here, I usually am. But I think with this kind of hardware it's the same as with PC and Mac hardware, you can't judge a devices ability by the measure of its clock speed, buss speed, or cache size.
All of those things factor into how many instructions per second it can handle but you can't judge a device by that either. Little things like getting the data in and out need to be considered too.
The software you run might run better with one hardware setup than another too.
I don't think that you're going to know which one is better until you try each computer for yourself. Crunch the same numbers on each and see for yourself which one you're more happy with.
You wouldn't buy a car without a test drive, you wouldn't buy a house without a walkthru. Don't buy a computer until you've cunched some data. With the kind of money your company will be spending for the darn thing you're going to have to live with what you get for a while, be damn sure you're happy with it's performance.
Uh, no. Bllllaaaaaapppp. Wrong answer. You see the way you are looking at it is from a programmers point of view. But in the English language his use of commas and the word and indicates that he is addressing them as exclusive groups.
"Given that Microsoft's product is the runaway market leader,it is not surprising that it leads in vulnerabilities:"
Ok, so let's say that the Chevy Impala has the most NTSB generated safety recalls, does that mean that I should run right out and buy the car? It sells quite well. If it's not suprising that Microsofts product is both the best selling and most vulnerable then it would also not be suprising for the best selling car to be the most unsafe.
Since I don't understand why I would choose a software product any differently than any other product, I could apply this idiots logic to many other products such as:
A childs crib smoke alarms cellular phones nuclear missiles
Obviously the author is very in tune with the American public. He knows that the public won't bother to research the details and learn the whole story so he didn't bother to print it for them (if he even took the time to research it). No, things are sold in the U.S.A. by sex and emotion only. With the economy in the state it's in now, people aren't interested in bang for the buck. People buy Windows because "everyone else has it" and because "look, this guy says that Linux is more vulnerable".
Do you think that maybe these problems that are identified with Linux are identified because those who use Linux are:
1) More educated about computers 2) More willing to learn about computers 3) More interested in the security of their systems/data?
No, couldn't be. It's gotta be because Linux sux.
And how quickly are these problems resolved compared to other leading OS? And when they are resolved, what is the cost of resolution both in immediate capital expense and down time/data loss? Well, never mind answering that one because the author, and the average Windows user, doesn't give a crap.
Go ahead Windows users, spend yer dollars....we'll print more.
I can understand why the letter would be addressed to friends and countrymen. But why would he address it to Romans? He makes specific mention of them so I take it he does not consider them to be friends or countrymen and I don't understand how or why Romans would be any more/less interested in this matter than the rest of us.
And isn't.com supposed to be used for commercial sites? If so, that would seem to be a valid reason to reassign him to a more appropriate domain.
Maybe I just don't get it. From what I've read here, Microso~1 is saying that any technical discussion of thier products, based upon specifications they provided, are not legal.
The impression that this leaves with me is that they want to gag us all. Ok, fine.
Doesn't this then hurt themselves? If we (those of us who aren't Micros~1) can't discuss the good or bad points of their products, then how does thier technology develop? If we aren't allowed to try to find ways to improve, then only the creator of the product can do that, with very limited input because they (Micros~1) couldn't legally discuss it with anyone outside their clique.
Why would anyone limit themselves in that way? As much as I hate to think of bigger, badder things going on in the shadows, it's time to wonder if they aren't trying to bring themselves down. The bad press this subject is bringing them is damage enough I would think, and they had to know it would bring bad press when they sent the letter to Rob.
Part of the problem is that while you might own the phone, you don't have a license to use the frequencies that it operates in. Changing the frequency would not be a simple thing.
Of course one could ignore the law.....if you're willing to risk it.
RFI shielding is the first thing that comes to mind. The second thing is controlled cooling air flow.
Then again, I have to agree that mass produced sheet metal boxes suck. Now you've got me thinking about putting my 6 or 7 computers all on a single piece of plywood, motherboards on thier side like a server. Enclose that whole thing in a large sheet metal box (for RFI) and tuck it all in a nice wood cabinet. Kind of like a 1920's or 30's radio receiver. Now that could be done to look classy, keep all the equipment in one place, and be very tidy. I can do the woodworking myself and have a friend do the sheet metal.....hmmmm, should still be under $200 per computer and look one hell of a lot nicer.
It always amazed me that to talk using voice or data on the HF bands, the government wanted me to prove that I could operate CW. I didn't have to prove that I was capable of doing what I wanted to.
"Son, I know you want to fly that spacecraft to mars but first you gotta prove to me that you can shift gears on my grandpappy's Model T"
Who knows, maybe I won't let my license lapse after all.
If you had any clue you would know that the actual process of recycling paper is more harmful to the enviroment than creating virgin paper.
Conservation of energy? My ass! Producing virgin paper takes less energy on our part but it takes a lot more patience (trees take a while to grow. I know, it seems like they grow pretty fast, especially since we've wiped out the bison, fight forest fires and made more room for expansion of forests.....but it still takes a lot of time. Deal with it). You talk about conservation of energy all you want, we all know what you're really saying is that you want instant gratification and won't let nature, or the laws of physics, do the work for you at a leisurly pace.
So on the one hand we have an enviro-mental wacko telling us that because it's disposable it's a bad thing.
On the other hand we have a bazillion other enviro-mental wackos who tell us how it's some sort of moral responsibility to recycle stuff.
Now, you've pointed out an interesting arguement that applies, not just to this paper computer, but to the whole enviro-menatal-ist arguement. If we are to believe these tree huggers then everything we throw in the trash bin goes into a black hole. Well bend me over and insert a red hot poker....somebody call NASA, I think they're gonna be interested in that. The physics guys are gonna have to rewrite the books!!
In all seriousness you may have hit on a HUGE marketing flaw. Because Jim is using the word paper he's going to attract a bunch of undesirable attention (i.e. the tree hugging crowd). Because the average tree hugger is ignorant of the laws of physics such as you have pointed out, they also won't understand that this product would have a quicker recycle time at less processing cost than would a product made of actual wood pulp.
Nope, they're just gonna see the word paper and shit. I just hope they have plenty of spotted owl to wipe their asses with.
I tried that last year and it wouldn't work. The thing kept insisting that I had to be running Windows or Mac which I never could understand since I was on the web....sounds like the fox.com thing all over again.
I sent Intuit some mail about that experience and never heard back. The called twice last year to offer me the Windows upgrade for Quicken and I told them no but call me when the Linux or Solaris versions are released and haven't heard from them since.
I've not had to really tweak the monitor settings much unless I wanted to (which I did but only because I'm a geek).
For me it's always been the setup of the video cards. If the autoprobe stuff doesn't work then you have to be a geek to get stuff up and running.
Either way this should be addressed, the whole video setup is a bit confusing to the average person. Still, it's far more simple than getting most audio cards to work.
I think using the INF files to grab basic information for new monitors is a great idea.
However, in the Winblows PnP world I've not had the best of luck with Winblows making automatic calculations. Most of the time it's more conservative than necessary but I've also had times when it was too agressive. So, even in Windows I have to hack. But then that's me, I'm a geek.
It's so refreshing to hear how these schools are devoted to your education. After all this time I was still convinced that they were only after your $$$,$$$.$$ and gave you a worthless diploma in return even if you didn't learn anything.
Maybe if you were really good at some sport they wouldn't give you such a hard time. Sports are what's important you know.
Meanwhile you had best quit screwing around trying to educate yourself and get the legal battle going. That way you'll be delayed in your education and have to spend more $$,$$$.$$ to finish it up.
You can rule out both Linux and NT right off the bat because PC hardware is not intended to do what you describe. It isn't that it can't do what you describe, it's just that it isn't going to do it reliably in any sort of cost effective way. Like previous posters I would suggest SGI, Sun, or maybe even IBM, Hitachi, HP, or a few others. Now you're into different OS because of the different hardware required.
Remember that PC's were/are designed as light to medium duty machines.
What you're doing sound like something that's a lot of fun to do if you have a spare $quarter-million to tinker with. You'll be advancing the state of the art and I know you'll have a great time doing it. I would love to join you, it sounds like so much fun.
But what you're doing is also totally unnecessary. Maybe you need this thing for some big television or movie production but in that case you need the reliability of hardware designed to do this. But I have to agree with previous posts that your described intent doesn't justify the huge expense.....you could get by with lower cost solutions.
If you really are doing this just to advance the state of the art then the choice is simple: GO LINUX. You won't find Microsoft interested in helping you tweak NT to your specific needs on this project unless they get a major piece of the action. Nothing beats Linux for advancing the state of the art....and having fun while you're doing it.
Great. I worked my ass off to get out of credit card debt and closed all accounts. Haven't had any problems getting anything I want anywhere else (and I can afford it now without credit cards sucking my wallet dry).
But I can't get one of these things. They won't take a check, money order, wire transfer, or cash.
Well, these guys won't be getting my money I guess.
Too bad too because I'm about to place an order for several $$$.$$ to $$$$.$$ with either or home automation for the same kind of stuff to use at work.
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I know, let's ask Slick Willie. He's one of them thar roads schollars and I hear that he's and expert in word definitions.
You know what? Fuck this.
My wife got the game cuz she was a big Diablo fan. We played it one computer here, did a special Windows install just for it. Never took the thing online (Hey, it's a Windows machine.....are you crazy?)
So we spent all that money on the game and after about 6 hours of play time the CD box now sits on the top shelf collecting dust. Why?
Because I still can't find a Linux patch for the game and I'm not going to shut everything down and do a reboot just to play some silly game.
Fuck that.
At this point I figure if a game is worth my hard earned money then they'll put out a version that I can play without a reboot.
Take a look at http://www.zetron.com/english/front/scada.html
That's one good example of whats available to do what you want to do. Their gear will interface between your sensors and the transmission media (wire, radio, whatever).
If the Zetron stuff interests you then contact your local two way radio company (most sell zetron) and if they can't help you contact Mountain Communications at 208-263-8226 and ask for Thor.
Uh, so you're saying this is a tissue issue?
Bless you.
I don't know about e-commerce but I suspect that Motorola has been using Impact21 data to help my competitor move into my area.
The competition I speak of is Motorola's largest dealer in the west, they are very friendly with each other. Suddenly that competition wants my area and starts finding out handy facts about who buys what here, what kind of business they are and how much I've sold the equipment for. Things that make me go "hmmmmm".
It begins to stink when the salesman for Motorola's "golden boy" dealership walks into my customers office with a quote for exactly the equipment they use and their quote beats mine by a few dollars right off the bat. That wouldn't be such a suprise on the second or third visit after the competition has built a relationship with the customer and learned a few things, but to have a detailed quote right out of the shoot???
Motorola radios, as well as many other brands, support many different types of encryption and have for years.
Motorola doesn't even take that approach. There is no warranty card. Warranty repairs are tracked by serial number, which is electronicly stored within the radio, and the equipment is repaired only based on that. It doesn't matter who is in possession of the equipment, if the serial number is within the warranty period, it's covered.
Secondly, There is a rat. The article neglects to point out that Motorola does not allow our radio customers to opt-out of the program. In fact, they don't mention the program to our customers, nor do the give us anything (promo material, forms, etc.) to inform our customers about the program or give them a change to say "no Mr. radio dealer, I don't want you to share our information with anyone else".
Maybe I'm way off base here, I usually am. But I think with this kind of hardware it's the same as with PC and Mac hardware, you can't judge a devices ability by the measure of its clock speed, buss speed, or cache size.
All of those things factor into how many instructions per second it can handle but you can't judge a device by that either. Little things like getting the data in and out need to be considered too.
The software you run might run better with one hardware setup than another too.
I don't think that you're going to know which one is better until you try each computer for yourself. Crunch the same numbers on each and see for yourself which one you're more happy with.
You wouldn't buy a car without a test drive, you wouldn't buy a house without a walkthru. Don't buy a computer until you've cunched some data. With the kind of money your company will be spending for the darn thing you're going to have to live with what you get for a while, be damn sure you're happy with it's performance.
Uh, no. Bllllaaaaaapppp. Wrong answer. You see the way you are looking at it is from a programmers point of view. But in the English language his use of commas and the word and indicates that he is addressing them as exclusive groups.
Friends
Romans
Countrymen
Smartass
"Given that Microsoft's product is the runaway market leader,it is not surprising that it leads in vulnerabilities:"
Ok, so let's say that the Chevy Impala has the most NTSB generated safety recalls, does that mean that I should run right out and buy the car? It sells quite well. If it's not suprising that Microsofts product is both the best selling and most vulnerable then it would also not be suprising for the best selling car to be the most unsafe.
Since I don't understand why I would choose a software product any differently than any other product, I could apply this idiots logic to many other products such as:
A childs crib
smoke alarms
cellular phones
nuclear missiles
Obviously the author is very in tune with the American public. He knows that the public won't bother to research the details and learn the whole story so he didn't bother to print it for them (if he even took the time to research it). No, things are sold in the U.S.A. by sex and emotion only. With the economy in the state it's in now, people aren't interested in bang for the buck. People buy Windows because "everyone else has it" and because "look, this guy says that Linux is more vulnerable".
Do you think that maybe these problems that are identified with Linux are identified because those who use Linux are:
1) More educated about computers
2) More willing to learn about computers
3) More interested in the security of their systems/data?
No, couldn't be. It's gotta be because Linux sux.
And how quickly are these problems resolved compared to other leading OS? And when they are resolved, what is the cost of resolution both in immediate capital expense and down time/data loss? Well, never mind answering that one because the author, and the average Windows user, doesn't give a crap.
Go ahead Windows users, spend yer dollars....we'll print more.
I can understand why the letter would be addressed to friends and countrymen. But why would he address it to Romans? He makes specific mention of them so I take it he does not consider them to be friends or countrymen and I don't understand how or why Romans would be any more/less interested in this matter than the rest of us.
.com supposed to be used for commercial sites? If so, that would seem to be a valid reason to reassign him to a more appropriate domain.
And isn't
Maybe I just don't get it. From what I've read here, Microso~1 is saying that any technical discussion of thier products, based upon specifications they provided, are not legal.
The impression that this leaves with me is that they want to gag us all. Ok, fine.
Doesn't this then hurt themselves? If we (those of us who aren't Micros~1) can't discuss the good or bad points of their products, then how does thier technology develop? If we aren't allowed to try to find ways to improve, then only the creator of the product can do that, with very limited input because they (Micros~1) couldn't legally discuss it with anyone outside their clique.
Why would anyone limit themselves in that way? As much as I hate to think of bigger, badder things going on in the shadows, it's time to wonder if they aren't trying to bring themselves down. The bad press this subject is bringing them is damage enough I would think, and they had to know it would bring bad press when they sent the letter to Rob.
Part of the problem is that while you might own the phone, you don't have a license to use the frequencies that it operates in. Changing the frequency would not be a simple thing.
Of course one could ignore the law.....if you're willing to risk it.
RFI shielding is the first thing that comes to mind. The second thing is controlled cooling air flow.
Then again, I have to agree that mass produced sheet metal boxes suck. Now you've got me thinking about putting my 6 or 7 computers all on a single piece of plywood, motherboards on thier side like a server. Enclose that whole thing in a large sheet metal box (for RFI) and tuck it all in a nice wood cabinet. Kind of like a 1920's or 30's radio receiver. Now that could be done to look classy, keep all the equipment in one place, and be very tidy. I can do the woodworking myself and have a friend do the sheet metal.....hmmmm, should still be under $200 per computer and look one hell of a lot nicer.
It always amazed me that to talk using voice or data on the HF bands, the government wanted me to prove that I could operate CW. I didn't have to prove that I was capable of doing what I wanted to.
"Son, I know you want to fly that spacecraft to mars but first you gotta prove to me that you can shift gears on my grandpappy's Model T"
Who knows, maybe I won't let my license lapse after all.
N7JCT (Licenced since Jan 1987)
If you had any clue you would know that the actual process of recycling paper is more harmful to the enviroment than creating virgin paper.
Conservation of energy? My ass! Producing virgin paper takes less energy on our part but it takes a lot more patience (trees take a while to grow. I know, it seems like they grow pretty fast, especially since we've wiped out the bison, fight forest fires and made more room for expansion of forests.....but it still takes a lot of time. Deal with it). You talk about conservation of energy all you want, we all know what you're really saying is that you want instant gratification and won't let nature, or the laws of physics, do the work for you at a leisurly pace.
So on the one hand we have an enviro-mental wacko telling us that because it's disposable it's a bad thing.
On the other hand we have a bazillion other enviro-mental wackos who tell us how it's some sort of moral responsibility to recycle stuff.
Now, you've pointed out an interesting arguement that applies, not just to this paper computer, but to the whole enviro-menatal-ist arguement. If we are to believe these tree huggers then everything we throw in the trash bin goes into a black hole. Well bend me over and insert a red hot poker....somebody call NASA, I think they're gonna be interested in that. The physics guys are gonna have to rewrite the books!!
In all seriousness you may have hit on a HUGE marketing flaw. Because Jim is using the word paper he's going to attract a bunch of undesirable attention (i.e. the tree hugging crowd). Because the average tree hugger is ignorant of the laws of physics such as you have pointed out, they also won't understand that this product would have a quicker recycle time at less processing cost than would a product made of actual wood pulp.
Nope, they're just gonna see the word paper and shit. I just hope they have plenty of spotted owl to wipe their asses with.
I tried that last year and it wouldn't work. The thing kept insisting that I had to be running Windows or Mac which I never could understand since I was on the web....sounds like the fox.com thing all over again.
I sent Intuit some mail about that experience and never heard back. The called twice last year to offer me the Windows upgrade for Quicken and I told them no but call me when the Linux or Solaris versions are released and haven't heard from them since.
I've not had to really tweak the monitor settings much unless I wanted to (which I did but only because I'm a geek).
For me it's always been the setup of the video cards. If the autoprobe stuff doesn't work then you have to be a geek to get stuff up and running.
Either way this should be addressed, the whole video setup is a bit confusing to the average person. Still, it's far more simple than getting most audio cards to work.
I think using the INF files to grab basic information for new monitors is a great idea.
However, in the Winblows PnP world I've not had the best of luck with Winblows making automatic calculations. Most of the time it's more conservative than necessary but I've also had times when it was too agressive. So, even in Windows I have to hack. But then that's me, I'm a geek.
It's so refreshing to hear how these schools are devoted to your education. After all this time I was still convinced that they were only after your $$$,$$$.$$ and gave you a worthless diploma in return even if you didn't learn anything.
Maybe if you were really good at some sport they wouldn't give you such a hard time. Sports are what's important you know.
Meanwhile you had best quit screwing around trying to educate yourself and get the legal battle going. That way you'll be delayed in your education and have to spend more $$,$$$.$$ to finish it up.
Amen brother!
I couldn't have said it better.
IMHO:
You can rule out both Linux and NT right off the bat because PC hardware is not intended to do what you describe. It isn't that it can't do what you describe, it's just that it isn't going to do it reliably in any sort of cost effective way. Like previous posters I would suggest SGI, Sun, or maybe even IBM, Hitachi, HP, or a few others. Now you're into different OS because of the different hardware required.
Remember that PC's were/are designed as light to medium duty machines.
What you're doing sound like something that's a lot of fun to do if you have a spare $quarter-million to tinker with. You'll be advancing the state of the art and I know you'll have a great time doing it. I would love to join you, it sounds like so much fun.
But what you're doing is also totally unnecessary. Maybe you need this thing for some big television or movie production but in that case you need the reliability of hardware designed to do this. But I have to agree with previous posts that your described intent doesn't justify the huge expense.....you could get by with lower cost solutions.
If you really are doing this just to advance the state of the art then the choice is simple: GO LINUX. You won't find Microsoft interested in helping you tweak NT to your specific needs on this project unless they get a major piece of the action. Nothing beats Linux for advancing the state of the art....and having fun while you're doing it.
Great. I worked my ass off to get out of credit card debt and closed all accounts. Haven't had any problems getting anything I want anywhere else (and I can afford it now without credit cards sucking my wallet dry).
But I can't get one of these things. They won't take a check, money order, wire transfer, or cash.
Well, these guys won't be getting my money I guess.
Too bad too because I'm about to place an order for several $$$.$$ to $$$$.$$ with either or home automation for the same kind of stuff to use at work.
Their loss.
For some reason I thought that changed with the 2.2 kernel.