I worked for a major airline a few years ago. They were and still are using old IBM servers (35xx?) running OS/2 as the backend for the ticket/gate computer systems which run Win3.1 on token ring. Those backends speak to the mainframes with modem sharing devices in some protocols and timings that I can not recall at this time (I do remember something about SNA/SDLC and configuring the polling intervals though). It worked then, works now and they still use it. I was used in my time there to convert the smaller non hub airports over to a TCP/IP system to connect to the mainframes (basically still W3.11 but with TCP/IP using terminal emulation software) via ethernet, this basically provided the same functionality but removed the need for any location specific backend servers. They converted what they wanted but still left quite a few of the older systems in place.
You are making very specific points about specific products and services being better then others and the most logical choice.
Office 2003 is an excellent collaboration suite. Server 2003 is an excellent turn-key workgroup server.
Then you comment on having the right tool for the job. I truely do not think you believe that though. How can you state the specific products above are the right tools for the job but never actually state or define what job they are being used for? In your nameless scenario where you suggest Office and 2003 server is the best and most logical solution, could you explain why Samba and Open Office would not be an option? I have installed and serviced quite a few small businesses and I have used a variety of solutions including MS servers, Samba, Novell, MS Office, Word Perfect, and Open Office, various data backup methods, and various remote administration tools. What was used was not determined until we discussed what they need, want, and what they currently have. I do not use a hunch that assumes one choice is always better then the others. I'll admit though that given the choice (the company does not know what they need or does not care), I will suggest the Samba/OO route. The only time that becomes an issue is if they later decide they want MS Word installed. Not for functionality, not for stability, not for ease of use, but only when compatibility with others becomes a limiting factor.
Releasing some of your own tools under some type of open source license is NOT equal to "working with the open source community". Working with the open source community IMHO, would be releasing tools or at least specifications that allow any non MS products to work better or integrate into existing MS products. This may happen on a small scale now but it is VERY limited.
All memory starts off as wafers also. Obviously not as detailed as a CPU core but large wafers none the less. Each one that fails is also a very expensive loss.
There has to be a larger benefit of cheap labor then you suggest. Look at Micron. They bascially scaled down their US production of memory to a small fraction of previous and moved the rest overseas. The Manassas VA plant was only bought one year earlier from IBM/Toshiba and a new second updated fab was just put online months before they let go 95% of the employees. A typical fab employee made about $12-18 USD/hour (obviously engineering and equipment support made more but there were far less of them). Despite those facts, it was obviously still cheaper to move the bulk of production overseas.
Take a look at the typical Sunday paper. It's 75% Ads.
The Sunday ads is the main reason I buy a Sunday paper. The ads are read first and eventually throughout the week I end up reading at least the business and automotive section and if it is a slow week for my industy mags, I may even hit the Style and a few other sections before the next Sunday when I repeat the process. I could get the "Sunday ads" even without the paper by using Salescircular but I still like browse the actual ads.
How do they know what CM to pull the config from with his MAC changing all the time? I guess they could do them all everyday or maybe specifically target new/different/flipfloped MACS. Is that something a cable company would pull and analyzes on a daily basis as part of normal business? Maybe there are more details then "he changed his MAC" everyday and those details resulted into something worth looking into.
I seem to recall a huge controversy on how they came up with those damages figure. Just enough to get the FBI involved but later determined to be very much less? No that is working the criminal justice system in your favor.
Some cable ISPs use "bottom-up" provisioning which allows you to re-register your modem's MAC address and tie it to your account
Or allow you to access the internet with someone elses credentials. I am not familiar with how a cable internet system works and I doubt you could get lucky enough to guess someone elses MAC but wouldn't the other CM's in your area or "node" have their MAC flying around the wire and ripe for capture? At least the initial requests looking for the routers and DHCP server.
If a local college student had 13,000 shop-lifted DVDs in his dorm room, is the store he stole them from supposed to just sue him and hope for the best? Hire private investigators? No: you get robbed, and you know who did it, you call the cops.
Theft of a physical product is a criminal offense. A civil case is not required at all. Violating a copyright law is completely different as the damages and what was actually "lost or stolen" must be argued. If copyright law loses were cut and dry, the person who stole an the half-life code would be liable for exactly $49 and the editor that copied Shrek3 prior to the release date would have to pay up $12.99, the retail price of those products on the street. They only stole one unit from the owners. Involving the higher crime fighting organizations in the US is the copyright owners trying to get the best of both worlds.
The only thing that seems even remotely like a pyramid is the way the ipod people collect emails.
You make this sound like that is not a big deal. The part of recruiting and supplying the names of others is 100% required for you to complete the deal. It is not optional. If you do NOT supply names and those people do NOT sign up, you get absolutely nothing. So, what you consider a small part of the scheme, is a major factor on how the whole thing works. Eventually as proven with some basic math, there will be a point where a vast majority of people will not find 5 other people and shortly there after, it will mathmatically impossible to find 5 people. At that point, the bottom will have fallen out and the whole thing will come crashing down. You reference "changing the deal" as you realize it really is a pyramid. What about the people half way through still looking for people? They get nothing. At what point does the company decide to pull the plug?
Seminar speaker: First, let me assure you that this is not one of those shady pyramid schemes you've been hearing about. No sir. Our model is the trapezoid!
Taken from the Simpsons episode 8F10, I Married Marge
something out of the ordinary to get people to pay up
That something may be the capability to "port" your real AOL address over to the web service for a fee. I know quite a few people that keep AOL for the email address alone. The scales may have tipped and the people in that situation may be more willing to abandon the address and just leave. This might be a way for AOL to salvage some form of money flow from those people.
My first internet provider back in 1994 still maintains a limited shell I can SSH into to modify my procmail filters and still allows me tunnel my IMAP in to get and recieve my mail even though I offially quit and stopped paying them almost 8 years ago. I helped them out back in the early days with testing and various things and they are paying me back with that benefit. They don't have service providers like that anymore;)
Outlook server? You mean MS Exchange? You can connect with IMAP/LDAP if the server is configured to allow for such access. I have not used or messed with the LDAP portion of the mix but using IMAP, I can connect to my exchange servers with any IMAP capable email client. Although the IMAP/LDAP soulution is not a full 100% equivelent of a native Outlook Exchange connection, it is very capable.
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Your claim to fame, I want to reform the copyright law.
maybe you did not get my point.. Parent of my original post seemed to think the only reason someone was hacked because they went to some rogue website. My point was you do not have to be browsing the internet at all to get hacked, simply plugged in with an IP address is enough if you are not prepared. I referenced some honeypot stats to try to give some rough ideas of how often a typical home computer gets probed by something looking to get in.
Human error makes spyware sound like the good guy. What about once it is on the system? I've come across more and more spyware that create two processes that monitor each other so when one is killed, the other restarts it. On top of that, these two processes also monitor the HKLM/Software/Micosoft/Windows/Run portion of the registry and if you delete the offending application from there thinking it will not start on next bootup you are mistaken because the running spyware processes put it right back in registry within seconds. You also can not delete the offending process exe files because they are in use. This method I described above is common and more and more spyware is working this way. Far from human error.
Getting off topic here.. I'm sure there are other methods to recover from this but I've used a bat file that deletes the two spyware exe files. I place a reference to the bat file in the runonce section of the registry which runs the bat file before Windows gets to the run section. It deletes the files on the next bootup. At that point you can continue the cleanup effort.
Damn. After I submitted the parent comment I tried the login box from the link above and now it does work with FF. I swear it did not work a few months ago when they first introduced that login box on their main page. I'd like to think they fixed it but now it may be a case of I am just an idiot.
I complained to American Express. I did not even get a reply.
The main page login dialog here does not work with FF. If you select the "Benefits" link on that page, then select "Manage Your Account", that login screen will work with FF. Odd, they get you to the same place but they have two front ends for it. Everything else works with FF from that point on. Sloppy on their part.
Ghost is not quite the same as backing up data. There was two people in the drive imaging game, until Symantec bought PowerQuest last year. They basicilly bought it and did absolutely nothing with it other then modify some web pages to point to a Symantec website. Click on the Drive Image 7 link and see.
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I worked for a major airline a few years ago. They were and still are using old IBM servers (35xx?) running OS/2 as the backend for the ticket/gate computer systems which run Win3.1 on token ring. Those backends speak to the mainframes with modem sharing devices in some protocols and timings that I can not recall at this time (I do remember something about SNA/SDLC and configuring the polling intervals though). It worked then, works now and they still use it. I was used in my time there to convert the smaller non hub airports over to a TCP/IP system to connect to the mainframes (basically still W3.11 but with TCP/IP using terminal emulation software) via ethernet, this basically provided the same functionality but removed the need for any location specific backend servers. They converted what they wanted but still left quite a few of the older systems in place.
Dude, the article is mostly pictures, very little reading going on.
You are making very specific points about specific products and services being better then others and the most logical choice.
Office 2003 is an excellent collaboration suite.
Server 2003 is an excellent turn-key workgroup server.
Then you comment on having the right tool for the job. I truely do not think you believe that though.
How can you state the specific products above are the right tools for the job but never actually state or define what job they are being used for? In your nameless scenario where you suggest Office and 2003 server is the best and most logical solution, could you explain why Samba and Open Office would not be an option?
I have installed and serviced quite a few small businesses and I have used a variety of solutions including MS servers, Samba, Novell, MS Office, Word Perfect, and Open Office, various data backup methods, and various remote administration tools. What was used was not determined until we discussed what they need, want, and what they currently have. I do not use a hunch that assumes one choice is always better then the others. I'll admit though that given the choice (the company does not know what they need or does not care), I will suggest the Samba/OO route. The only time that becomes an issue is if they later decide they want MS Word installed. Not for functionality, not for stability, not for ease of use, but only when compatibility with others becomes a limiting factor.
Releasing some of your own tools under some type of open source license is NOT equal to "working with the open source community". Working with the open source community IMHO, would be releasing tools or at least specifications that allow any non MS products to work better or integrate into existing MS products. This may happen on a small scale now but it is VERY limited.
All memory starts off as wafers also. Obviously not as detailed as a CPU core but large wafers none the less. Each one that fails is also a very expensive loss.
There has to be a larger benefit of cheap labor then you suggest. Look at Micron. They bascially scaled down their US production of memory to a small fraction of previous and moved the rest overseas. The Manassas VA plant was only bought one year earlier from IBM/Toshiba and a new second updated fab was just put online months before they let go 95% of the employees. A typical fab employee made about $12-18 USD/hour (obviously engineering and equipment support made more but there were far less of them). Despite those facts, it was obviously still cheaper to move the bulk of production overseas.
Take a look at the typical Sunday paper. It's 75% Ads.
The Sunday ads is the main reason I buy a Sunday paper. The ads are read first and eventually throughout the week I end up reading at least the business and automotive section and if it is a slow week for my industy mags, I may even hit the Style and a few other sections before the next Sunday when I repeat the process.
I could get the "Sunday ads" even without the paper by using Salescircular but I still like browse the actual ads.
How do they know what CM to pull the config from with his MAC changing all the time? I guess they could do them all everyday or maybe specifically target new/different/flipfloped MACS. Is that something a cable company would pull and analyzes on a daily basis as part of normal business? Maybe there are more details then "he changed his MAC" everyday and those details resulted into something worth looking into.
I seem to recall a huge controversy on how they came up with those damages figure. Just enough to get the FBI involved but later determined to be very much less? No that is working the criminal justice system in your favor.
Some cable ISPs use "bottom-up" provisioning which allows you to re-register your modem's MAC address and tie it to your account
Or allow you to access the internet with someone elses credentials. I am not familiar with how a cable internet system works and I doubt you could get lucky enough to guess someone elses MAC but wouldn't the other CM's in your area or "node" have their MAC flying around the wire and ripe for capture? At least the initial requests looking for the routers and DHCP server.
If a local college student had 13,000 shop-lifted DVDs in his dorm room, is the store he stole them from supposed to just sue him and hope for the best? Hire private investigators? No: you get robbed, and you know who did it, you call the cops.
Theft of a physical product is a criminal offense. A civil case is not required at all. Violating a copyright law is completely different as the damages and what was actually "lost or stolen" must be argued. If copyright law loses were cut and dry, the person who stole an the half-life code would be liable for exactly $49 and the editor that copied Shrek3 prior to the release date would have to pay up $12.99, the retail price of those products on the street. They only stole one unit from the owners. Involving the higher crime fighting organizations in the US is the copyright owners trying to get the best of both worlds.
The only thing that seems even remotely like a pyramid is the way the ipod people collect emails.
You make this sound like that is not a big deal. The part of recruiting and supplying the names of others is 100% required for you to complete the deal. It is not optional. If you do NOT supply names and those people do NOT sign up, you get absolutely nothing. So, what you consider a small part of the scheme, is a major factor on how the whole thing works. Eventually as proven with some basic math, there will be a point where a vast majority of people will not find 5 other people and shortly there after, it will mathmatically impossible to find 5 people. At that point, the bottom will have fallen out and the whole thing will come crashing down. You reference "changing the deal" as you realize it really is a pyramid. What about the people half way through still looking for people? They get nothing. At what point does the company decide to pull the plug?
Seminar speaker: First, let me assure you that this is not one of those shady pyramid schemes you've been hearing about. No sir. Our model is the trapezoid!
Taken from the Simpsons episode 8F10, I Married Marge
Some people must see it, others must avoid it, I fall into the second crowd for the reason you described.
something out of the ordinary to get people to pay up
;)
That something may be the capability to "port" your real AOL address over to the web service for a fee. I know quite a few people that keep AOL for the email address alone. The scales may have tipped and the people in that situation may be more willing to abandon the address and just leave. This might be a way for AOL to salvage some form of money flow from those people.
My first internet provider back in 1994 still maintains a limited shell I can SSH into to modify my procmail filters and still allows me tunnel my IMAP in to get and recieve my mail even though I offially quit and stopped paying them almost 8 years ago. I helped them out back in the early days with testing and various things and they are paying me back with that benefit. They don't have service providers like that anymore
Outlook server? You mean MS Exchange? You can connect with IMAP/LDAP if the server is configured to allow for such access. I have not used or messed with the LDAP portion of the mix but using IMAP, I can connect to my exchange servers with any IMAP capable email client.
Although the IMAP/LDAP soulution is not a full 100% equivelent of a native Outlook Exchange connection, it is very capable.
The fifth amendment is so 80's, think Ollie North. The new thing is "I do not recall", think anyone from Enron and MCI.
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Your claim to fame, I want to reform the copyright law.
Yeah, I see that person getting elected/
maybe you did not get my point..
Parent of my original post seemed to think the only reason someone was hacked because they went to some rogue website. My point was you do not have to be browsing the internet at all to get hacked, simply plugged in with an IP address is enough if you are not prepared. I referenced some honeypot stats to try to give some rough ideas of how often a typical home computer gets probed by something looking to get in.
Are you trying to imply that browsing the web with IE is the only way to get hacked?
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Human error makes spyware sound like the good guy. What about once it is on the system? I've come across more and more spyware that create two processes that monitor each other so when one is killed, the other restarts it. On top of that, these two processes also monitor the HKLM/Software/Micosoft/Windows/Run portion of the registry and if you delete the offending application from there thinking it will not start on next bootup you are mistaken because the running spyware processes put it right back in registry within seconds. You also can not delete the offending process exe files because they are in use. This method I described above is common and more and more spyware is working this way. Far from human error.
Getting off topic here..
I'm sure there are other methods to recover from this but I've used a bat file that deletes the two spyware exe files. I place a reference to the bat file in the runonce section of the registry which runs the bat file before Windows gets to the run section. It deletes the files on the next bootup. At that point you can continue the cleanup effort.
It is probably that same person who switched from a Mac to a Windows PC last year that MS was bragging about. ;)
Damn. After I submitted the parent comment I tried the login box from the link above and now it does work with FF. I swear it did not work a few months ago when they first introduced that login box on their main page. I'd like to think they fixed it but now it may be a case of I am just an idiot.
I complained to American Express. I did not even get a reply.
The main page login dialog here does not work with FF. If you select the "Benefits" link on that page, then select "Manage Your Account", that login screen will work with FF. Odd, they get you to the same place but they have two front ends for it. Everything else works with FF from that point on. Sloppy on their part.
Ghost is not quite the same as backing up data. There was two people in the drive imaging game, until Symantec bought PowerQuest last year. They basicilly bought it and did absolutely nothing with it other then modify some web pages to point to a Symantec website. Click on the Drive Image 7 link and see.