I'm not stuck on the UserLinux name, and would listen to alternatives. I proposed gnUserLinux, but RMS didn't like it! He feels that having the GNU up front would signify that it's an FSF official project. UserGNULinux doesn't roll off of the tongue quite as easily.
I'm wondering why these ideas just can't be incorporated by the Debian project itself. They have a desktop subproject, why not just rally around the Debian banner ?
"Based on Debian" is great, but why not convince the project itself that this is the direction to go? Wouldn't this do nothing but improve the distribution? Who would be against that?
I don't understand why he's so critical of a free product. I upgraded to 2.60 and it's running near flawless, and since the program is so simple, you just upgrade it, no need to change configuration options if you don't need to, you just call it from procmail.
Yeah all those GUI options look nice, but 90% of the time, why do I need to change my spamblocking settings? The Bayesian filter autoadjusts itself with little or no user intervention -- it's near transparent.
... and then use a smarthost (another box that sends mail on your behalf) to send the mail for you. I haven't heard of anyone blocking SMTP-SSL.
This sucks because you need a box outside your network to do this.... but if you got a few buddies with your own mailservers you can chip in on one on a host somewhere, or find a trustworthy friend that will let you relay.
Not the perfect solution but you at least get _some_ semblance of control.
Replying to myself... Linux.Ars did a short intro to Fedora here, though it is not a full review.
If you need help installing it, checkout the #fedora unofficial FAQ, it answers 90% of people's questions, and if you're new to Linux, we have thread at Ars that should help you along.
If you want to know how Fedora is, you should probably ask people that use it, it's unfortunate that such a good release is mired with the typical anti-Red Hat sentiment. What's next? "OMFG Red Hat is sleeping with my wife!"
Not in the default desktop installation -- yum however is included, with the/etc/yum.conf already setup. Even the little up2date applet (the blue one that turns red) comes out of the box talking to yum.
There's no need for apt on a Fedora installation at all.
This "review" is fundamentally flawed, because I have no idea where in the release notes or Fedora FAQs it states to do what she did to this box, this reads like a whine-fest because Red Hat did not fix her favorite bugs:
a) So, the first thing she does is install a third party RPM and then wonders why it blows up in her face? How about the RPMs that came with the distribution? So, the install is brand new already broken in a VMWare installation.
b) Why is she using apt and synaptic? They don't even come with Fedora.
c) The RPM from Sun installs the JVM in all the Mozilla browser's (I didn't install KDE so I can't speak for Konqueror) and even integrates into the GNOME menu.
d) The well known limitations of Fedora's multimedia capabilities plague every linux distribution. It's not Fedora's fault that US laws suck. It's as easy to add multimedia in Fedora as it is in debian, you add one non-free source and you're done.
Here's a hint, if you're the kind of person that worries about moving from gaim.71 to.72 right after you install your distribution, then Fedora probably is not for you. Or you could wait until updated RPMs hit the official repositories instead of grabbing Joe Bob's RPM build and wondering why your installation exploded.
I worked as a line cook for 3 years during high school and another 4 while I attended college. I have _never_ met a cook that abided by this rule.
You might want to, as much as we all now want to go BOFH on every person we know, but in the end, our family and friends eat there, and what's the extra 5 minutes?
One thing I've learned from doing both tech and "hard labor" while I was younger is: professionalism is professionalism. That cook doesn't want you eating that nasty steak more than a professional programmer wants his unfinished project to be released early.
One wonders... how does gamespy continue to land these "exclusive" deals with these publishers?
Crappy servers, crappy players, and even worse, the games are HARD CODED to need gamespy, like Neverwinter Nights.
It's unfair, I couldn't boycott them if I wanted to, it seems like every PC game come with a "GAMESPY ENHANCED" sticker on it, meaning some in-game browser that doesn't work in multiplayer, and a game that won't work in single player AT ALL unless it can talk to a gamespy server. What a way to waste 60 bucks. WEAK.
Let us run our own servers, and keep your "value added" services to yourselves, we can do it better by ourselves anyway. All I want to do is be able to buy a game and play it online, why is that so hard? Wtf, Quakeworld did this crap better in the 90's better than any game does it TODAY.
Read the updated roadmap, they're not going to make it for 1.5 it seems. Considering that Mozilla recently gained its independance, and a good portion of fulltime gecko developers have been let go, I think they're due for a milestone or two of of getting their bearings and realigning around the *birds.
Besides, IE7 comes with longhorn, Mozilla has plenty of time, and is already in the lead, Firebird and Thunderbird are already proving to be ready for prime time.... give them a month or two to straighten things out, it'll be worth it.
I read it as a blatant attempt to persuade buyers that NVIDIA hardware is better than it actually is.
Well gee Rich... my NVIDIA card works at nearly the same performance in both Windows AND linux. Kind of hard to critize NVIDIA when you're drivers barely work, on ANY OS.
when they should be producing better drivers which could enhance the value of all their existing hardware in the market.
Maybe ATI should be the ones doing a little "enhancement of value"... I can't count how many ATI users try linux just to find that their brand new shiny Radeon is worthless in the OS. In the meantime nvidia users are enjoying full support from their manufacturer.
Keep whining about IP issues with linux and trumpeting DirectX 9 compliance. What good is a card with horrible drivers?
Random unproven MTA? I find that ironic coming from someone using sendmail.
If you want a drop in sendmail replacement, then maybe postfix would be a better choice.
Take the time to learn either qmail, exim, or postfix, you'll save more time in the long run.
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I agree. The reviewer seemed unfamiliar with gnome. The panel menu that he refers to is exactly the same one in gnome 2.2, and other than the background,s most of anything in his screenshots can be grabbed from art.gnome.org.
Where were the screenshots of these admin tools he's raving about? I know if I were in the ximian desktop the first screenie I would have taken would have been of Openoffice.org in GTK2 that Ximian was working on!
Maybe part of the agreement was to not give anything too nice away.:)
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I'm not stuck on the UserLinux name, and would listen to alternatives. I proposed gnUserLinux, but RMS didn't like it! He feels that having the GNU up front would signify that it's an FSF official project. UserGNULinux doesn't roll off of the tongue quite as easily.
I'm wondering why these ideas just can't be incorporated by the Debian project itself. They have a desktop subproject, why not just rally around the Debian banner ?
"Based on Debian" is great, but why not convince the project itself that this is the direction to go? Wouldn't this do nothing but improve the distribution? Who would be against that?
Don't be so quick to judge, he's obviously referring to the hideous Sun desktop.
I don't understand why he's so critical of a free product. I upgraded to 2.60 and it's running near flawless, and since the program is so simple, you just upgrade it, no need to change configuration options if you don't need to, you just call it from procmail.
Yeah all those GUI options look nice, but 90% of the time, why do I need to change my spamblocking settings? The Bayesian filter autoadjusts itself with little or no user intervention -- it's near transparent.
SpamBayes, by far.
... and then use a smarthost (another box that sends mail on your behalf) to send the mail for you. I haven't heard of anyone blocking SMTP-SSL.
.... but if you got a few buddies with your own mailservers you can chip in on one on a host somewhere, or find a trustworthy friend that will let you relay.
This sucks because you need a box outside your network to do this
Not the perfect solution but you at least get _some_ semblance of control.
Replying to myself... Linux.Ars did a short intro to Fedora here, though it is not a full review.
If you need help installing it, checkout the #fedora unofficial FAQ, it answers 90% of people's questions, and if you're new to Linux, we have thread at Ars that should help you along.
If you want to know how Fedora is, you should probably ask people that use it, it's unfortunate that such a good release is mired with the typical anti-Red Hat sentiment. What's next? "OMFG Red Hat is sleeping with my wife!"
Not in the default desktop installation -- yum however is included, with the /etc/yum.conf already setup. Even the little up2date applet (the blue one that turns red) comes out of the box talking to yum.
There's no need for apt on a Fedora installation at all.
This "review" is fundamentally flawed, because I have no idea where in the release notes or Fedora FAQs it states to do what she did to this box, this reads like a whine-fest because Red Hat did not fix her favorite bugs:
.71 to .72 right after you install your distribution, then Fedora probably is not for you. Or you could wait until updated RPMs hit the official repositories instead of grabbing Joe Bob's RPM build and wondering why your installation exploded.
a) So, the first thing she does is install a third party RPM and then wonders why it blows up in her face? How about the RPMs that came with the distribution? So, the install is brand new already broken in a VMWare installation.
b) Why is she using apt and synaptic? They don't even come with Fedora.
c) The RPM from Sun installs the JVM in all the Mozilla browser's (I didn't install KDE so I can't speak for Konqueror) and even integrates into the GNOME menu.
d) The well known limitations of Fedora's multimedia capabilities plague every linux distribution. It's not Fedora's fault that US laws suck. It's as easy to add multimedia in Fedora as it is in debian, you add one non-free source and you're done.
Here's a hint, if you're the kind of person that worries about moving from gaim
If they were _really_ listening to customers they wouldn't have done this in the first place.
Wow, CSS, XHTML, and and lots of div tags. Doesn't validate, but they're better off than they used to be, at least they made an attempt I guess.
To bad they ruin it with static width pages. You'd think they'd know this after 7 years.
I worked as a line cook for 3 years during high school and another 4 while I attended college. I have _never_ met a cook that abided by this rule.
You might want to, as much as we all now want to go BOFH on every person we know, but in the end, our family and friends eat there, and what's the extra 5 minutes?
One thing I've learned from doing both tech and "hard labor" while I was younger is: professionalism is professionalism. That cook doesn't want you eating that nasty steak more than a professional programmer wants his unfinished project to be released early.
Here's a good .net primer.
One wonders ... how does gamespy continue to land these "exclusive" deals with these publishers?
Crappy servers, crappy players, and even worse, the games are HARD CODED to need gamespy, like Neverwinter Nights.
It's unfair, I couldn't boycott them if I wanted to, it seems like every PC game come with a "GAMESPY ENHANCED" sticker on it, meaning some in-game browser that doesn't work in multiplayer, and a game that won't work in single player AT ALL unless it can talk to a gamespy server. What a way to waste 60 bucks. WEAK.
Let us run our own servers, and keep your "value added" services to yourselves, we can do it better by ourselves anyway. All I want to do is be able to buy a game and play it online, why is that so hard? Wtf, Quakeworld did this crap better in the 90's better than any game does it TODAY.
I had this problem with test1 but it seems that test2 has fixed it for me so far, no skips.
Read the updated roadmap, they're not going to make it for 1.5 it seems. Considering that Mozilla recently gained its independance, and a good portion of fulltime gecko developers have been let go, I think they're due for a milestone or two of of getting their bearings and realigning around the *birds.
.... give them a month or two to straighten things out, it'll be worth it.
Besides, IE7 comes with longhorn, Mozilla has plenty of time, and is already in the lead, Firebird and Thunderbird are already proving to be ready for prime time
You forgot:
2.5 Develop a huge support infrastructure backed by a huge company (Noon ever got fired for buying IBM) and make a crapload more money than step 2.
apt-cache search foo :)
You do realize that the Ximian file selector comes with this patch right? It has the Home, Desktop, and Network shortcuts on the left, etc. etc.
All we need to do now is send Schwarzenegger up there to turn on that ice melting machine.
They should have just put the original anime instead of those horrid cutscenes and saved some development dollars for more fighting features.
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I was kind of disappointed with B1, I hope the second one is better
To hear an ATI engineer criticize NVIDIA drivers?
... my NVIDIA card works at nearly the same performance in both Windows AND linux. Kind of hard to critize NVIDIA when you're drivers barely work, on ANY OS.
... I can't count how many ATI users try linux just to find that their brand new shiny Radeon is worthless in the OS. In the meantime nvidia users are enjoying full support from their manufacturer.
I read it as a blatant attempt to persuade buyers that NVIDIA hardware is better than it actually is.
Well gee Rich
when they should be producing better drivers which could enhance the value of all their existing hardware in the market.
Maybe ATI should be the ones doing a little "enhancement of value"
Keep whining about IP issues with linux and trumpeting DirectX 9 compliance. What good is a card with horrible drivers?
#1 Gamespy pretends to be a Gamer's site.
But OMG OMG We're making fun of Romero!!!! Gee, you think they'll bring up DNF?
Find the Woody backport for gnome 2.2 on apt-get.org.
You're going to need the XFree backport with it, since the X in Woody doesn't support the goodies that gnome2.2 needs.
This is probably why Ximian won't support woody, they'd have to not only do gnome, but X along with it.
Random unproven MTA? I find that ironic coming from someone using sendmail.
If you want a drop in sendmail replacement, then maybe postfix would be a better choice.
Take the time to learn either qmail, exim, or postfix, you'll save more time in the long run.
I agree. The reviewer seemed unfamiliar with gnome. The panel menu that he refers to is exactly the same one in gnome 2.2, and other than the background,s most of anything in his screenshots can be grabbed from art.gnome.org.
:)
Where were the screenshots of these admin tools he's raving about? I know if I were in the ximian desktop the first screenie I would have taken would have been of Openoffice.org in GTK2 that Ximian was working on!
Maybe part of the agreement was to not give anything too nice away.