Of course! Because you're telling them things like "Stop smoking, don't drink so much, cut down the fat, get some excersize, brush your teeth and watch your diet". Who the hell wants to hear that?
Not only that, but doctors don't listen to patients. Even if you arrive early, you have to wait for 30 minutes in a room by yourself. Then people other than doctors come in and do stuff, or check stuff, or take a sample of something. Then the doctor rolls in, looks at the chart, prescribes something, and asks "Do you have any questions?" as they are backing out of the room with no intention of participating in any kind of dialogue.
Doctors don't treat patients, they treat symptoms. If I think I can figure it out on my own, and it isn't anything too serious, I'll check the internet. So far it has worked out pretty well.
"I'm not saying OJ should have killed her - but I understand."
I would never participate in a DDOS attack against spammers. But I have to say, as bad as vigilante justice is, sometimes it just makes you feel good. I wouldn't look up a spammers home address and send him 50 pizzas - but I understand. I wouldn't hit Bill Gates in the face with a pie - but I understand. Honestly, spammers are asking for it. You keep polluting the internet and pissing off people long enough, this will happen. What do they honestly expect, that they aren't going to become targets? You reap what you sow.
It's unfortunate that the idea of questioning powerful people has become taboo in our culture, as it gives those people that much more power to do whatever they please. The only way to keep power in check is for the relatively powerless to continually question it.
It works best when coupled with misinformation.
SCO has tried this as well. Unfortunately for SCO, the only people who are concerned about this are the tech people, and they are willing to call them on their BS.
There are lots of people who believe that we are in Iraq because of 9/11, but that doesn't make it so.
Look, I know you are a troll, but there are others out there who might swallow your tripe.
Yes, I agree six hours a day, 280 days a year is way too much for $40,000- $60,000 a year.
Your numbers smell like poop because of where you pulled them.
I knew when I read this you would spout the "and they get summers off!" garbage too. You didn't disappoint.
(most of the time the teachers used the same lesson plans year to year)
Bzzzzt. That is very hard to do. You can do roughly the same things, but I can guarantee that it isn't the same year to year.
that's only 8 or 9 hours of actual work.
Not counting grading. My wife taught 100 kids. Grade homework for 100 kids every other day, including essays, for a language class.
And then they have the summer off and at least a week or two for every major holiday.
Right. Unless they are required to take classes, or teach summer classes. Oh yeah, she always got 2 weeks off for President's day. ROFL.
As far as compensation goes they get awesome medical/dental/vision coverage and an excellent retirement plan.
Are teachers professionals or not? They want to be treated like professionals and paid like professionals, but they don't seem to want to be held accountable like professionals or work long, hard hours like professionals. People might be willing to pay much more for good teachers if the teachers' unions didn't make them subsidize poor teachers at the same time.
Well, I am not as familiar with teacher unions. My wife taught at a private school. Lots of wealthy, extremely demanding parents. And she still didn't get paid that well.
Teachers don't want to work long hard hours? They are ONLY there because they love it. Again, from my experience, they have to work at least 2-3 hours every night on the things that they couldn't get done while at school. And there are the weekends, field trips, after-school events, etc.
It seems that one constant problem with fighting spam is that sometimes the ones who are fighting the spam are doing more damage than the spammers themselves...
I don't get a lot of spam on my Yahoo account. Unless of course you count Yahoo's approved spam. I have reported several emails from various big companies that I get. Fox Home Entertainment being one of them. The only thing I can figure is that Yahoo has some kind of deal with companies to allow them to spam their users.
We mistakenly think that kids are capable of much less than they are--not because the kids can't perform up to their capability, but because the educational system doesn't do the kids justice.
Well, yes and no. There are kids who can't keep up with the current educational system. It could be argued that they need more help. The smart kids will do OK if they don't get as much guidance. They could do better if they got more, but you get the idea.
And I am not saying this is how it should be, but I kind of understand why it is like that. My wife taught at a private middle-school for gifted kids. She was the French teacher. Even in that setting, where all they got was personal attention, there was a big difference between the ones at the top of the class and the bottom. In the 6th grade, the kids at the bottom could speak and write French, but struggled. The kid at the top translated a Star Wars novel into French and programmed in Perl (which is kind of like a foreign language):) It was tough for her as a teacher to keep up with the slowest and the fastest kids. In public schools it is the same way.
All this in an environment where people love to bitch about the quality of education, but don't pay teachers what they are worth and expect endless hours out of them.
I'll never forget when the Lead Engineer of our team at HP looked at Mosaic / WWW and said, "Who needs that?" This guy was supposed to be the "visionary" for management, but he definitely had his head in the sand.
I was a senior in college, and one of my fellow CS students was doing his final project on this thing called the World Wide Web, or WWW for short. "How stupid." I thought "Why would anyone need that, when gopher and FTP works just fine? There are BBSes. I just don't get it."
Of course, as you can see, I was quite the visionary too. I also didn't understand why anyone would make such a complicated OS like Unix.
But to be fair, the WWW at the time sucked pretty bad. In my first job at Motorola, I received an award a couple of years later for being one of a few people who pushed and pushed and got our intranet configured. Some management fought it at first, seeing it as unproductive. We were using Mosaic on Unix workstations. It was all very covert at first because they didn't want people wasting time at work. They certainly didn't see the need for an intranet. There was a lot of concern about people being able to get to the internet too, so we had to deal with that.
I think it is kind of cool to have been there when it all kind of started. It is also really interesting to see how far we have come with it in such a short amount of time.
A) sit around watching sports (this happens a lot - as does watching movies. Sort of boring for sports, movies are ok, but I'd just as soon go to a theater if I'm watching a movie with a bunch of people - then we can go play pool or something afterwards too).
I have watched many sports events in my day. There's nothing necessarily wrong with it, I just think that it isn't healthy if you are a "sports nut". Movies are fun, although I'd rather be at a friends house. Theaters aren't personal enough for my taste, and can be much more expensive than renting. Pools/darts are always fun.
Of course, there is always participating in sports too. Basketball, volleyball, etc. I have had a blast and been in some mean games of table-tennis.
B) Sit around getting drunk. Maybe go cow tipping, or try driving an ATV. In college go play a prank on someone - toilet paper a tree, shaving creme a dorm room.(this isn't interesting to me at all).
Several years ago I would do this, and it did get old. I did my share of wild things, I grew up in remote Illinois. Getting out of that area was a big part of experiencing something other than sitting around getting drunk. And hopefully you do outgrow that. One thing that I find not enough people do is sit around, have drinks, and not get drunk. You can have social drinks, have good conversations, and not have it turn into a drunken mess. Of couse, this depends on what kind of bars you have around you. But if you find one, it is very enjoyable. Drink good beer, take your time, have some good food.
C) Have a bbq - same as the described party, but outside and there's food. A big plus there, but still a lot of standing around being bored and drinking.
BBQs are good. There is also going out to eat. You can spend an entire evening on dinner/drinks. Hopefully it would include good conversation and meeting new people. Again, this depends on if you have good places wherever you live, but you should have something that suffices.
And not every event needs to be overly planned or social. The art of conversation seems to be going the way of the BBS. (my generation's dodo):)
imagine that, the company isn't taking time to waste R&D for a product they don't make.
Well, you are wrong. It is a company wasting (or spending) R&D time and money to specifically hurt a competitor. This alleges that they went out of their way to not optimize for their processor, but to cripple it for a competitor. That is a huge difference, and if you don't see it then you'll probably be indicted at some point in your life.
Interesting. Personally I just find RPGs as another reason to get together with people and *have something to do*. I never got into the go to a bar, or let's all get together and drink till we pass out. I mean, what do you do there? Stand around, try some small talk, hope there's some interesting conversation.
So I guess being honest gets modded as flamebait. I guess I should veil my insults better.
So if RPGs really expand your imagination, perhaps you haven't been playing enough. Why is it that if someone isn't into these games, they must be into mindless binge drinking? You aren't the only one who likes to use this as an example of how the "other people" live their lives. Another popular one seems to be sitting on a couch for hours watching sports. Granted, a lot of that goes on in the US, but you really need to expand your mind a little if you think that doing those things is the only alternative to playing your little games. If the only parties you have been to have been people getting drunk, playing poker, or watching sports then I feel sorry for you. After all, this sub-topic was about interpersonal communication afterall. But I guess there is a reason that you aren't "into" that.
Is it any different than people who get into heated discussions about cars, football or anything else? What I don't get is guys like you, to be honest.
No, those are just as pointless. Jeez, you really need to realize that there are other kinds of people in the world. You immediately lumped me into that group for some reason. Everyone who thinks gamers are dorks must me a meathead or one of those idiots with a Calvin peeing on a "rival" make of vehicle. For having such an expanded imagination, you seem pretty limited.
If they were truly skilled at this would they be a dungeon master????
I consider myself a pretty nerdy person, but there are two things that I just never got into:
1. Star Trek
2. Role-Playing Games
I only chuckle at the Star-Trek crowd, but I can't help but just laugh at the role-playing crowd. If you ever hear two or more them in a heated conversation, it is just hilarious. I don't usually rag on people for whatever they are into, but this stuff is just ridiculous.
We could attempt to invade Iran, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Palestine, Syria, Jordan, Yemen, Qatar, Yemen, Oman, Cyprus, and Lebanon, but we'd still be left with North Korea, Pakistan, Kazakhstan, Malaysia, Russia, China, and Montana.
You forgot Ireland. Everyone immediately jumped to the conclusion that the "terrorists" were middle-eastern, when Britain has been at "war" with someone much closer to home for quite a while now.
People don't adopt new OSes because they are lazy, and learning a new OS takes work.
Seriously--my dad just bought a new iBook, after using 'doze all his life, and quit using it after just a few weeks because it was, in his words, "too much work" to learn the new system.
Amen to that. Where I used to work, I heard one woman complaining about popup windows. I told her to try Firefox because it blocked popups. She said that sounded great, so we downloaded it and installed it for her.
A couple of days later, I noticed she was using IE. I asked her why she wasn't using Firefox, and her answer was "I don't know. I am used to IE".
I was amazed. She was a somewhat technical person, much more savvy than the average user.
Now compare the differences between changing browsers and changing OSes.
Just went and checked - it is one of these. I know that he told me it was an actual one used in the movie. I had never noticed the plaque at the bottom, but his is indeed a replica. Busted.
I gotta get my hands on Han Solo in the Carbonite. Simply the best prop in all the films.
The CEO of the company I work for has one. (there were several used in the movie) It sits in his office, and is quite imposing. But what a conversation piece.
Ummm, if you had put up a link to your own store I wouldn't have put up mine. Several people posted replies saying they would be interested and wanted the shirt, so I decided to post it for them. Considering that this is a phrase I've seen posted before, I don't think you can claim ownership. If it really bothers you that much, make your own version and put up a link as a reply to your original post. Doesn't bother me... Sorry for the dupe.
If that phrase has been posted before, then it is entirely cooincidental. I can only claim that I hadn't seen it before, it came from my brain. If that is indeed the case, then others have thought the same thing and it is an argument AGAINST intellectual property. (which I am not claiming I own or anything close to it) I am saying that it is a free idea, and people can create their own store on cafepress if they want it on a Tshirt. That is why I didn't create a store and put it on a shirt.
I am willing to bet that store went up shortly after you read my comment. How creative of you. BTW, I would suggest before anyone buy one of these, you simply make your own cafepress store with the exact same shirt. It's free, and you'll save a few bucks.
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The good ol' USA. Now don't question me again or I'll invade your country or steal your reality TV shows. ;)
Not only that, but doctors don't listen to patients. Even if you arrive early, you have to wait for 30 minutes in a room by yourself. Then people other than doctors come in and do stuff, or check stuff, or take a sample of something. Then the doctor rolls in, looks at the chart, prescribes something, and asks "Do you have any questions?" as they are backing out of the room with no intention of participating in any kind of dialogue.
Doctors don't treat patients, they treat symptoms. If I think I can figure it out on my own, and it isn't anything too serious, I'll check the internet. So far it has worked out pretty well.
I would never participate in a DDOS attack against spammers. But I have to say, as bad as vigilante justice is, sometimes it just makes you feel good. I wouldn't look up a spammers home address and send him 50 pizzas - but I understand. I wouldn't hit Bill Gates in the face with a pie - but I understand. Honestly, spammers are asking for it. You keep polluting the internet and pissing off people long enough, this will happen. What do they honestly expect, that they aren't going to become targets? You reap what you sow.
It works best when coupled with misinformation. SCO has tried this as well. Unfortunately for SCO, the only people who are concerned about this are the tech people, and they are willing to call them on their BS.
There are lots of people who believe that we are in Iraq because of 9/11, but that doesn't make it so.
Yes, I agree six hours a day, 280 days a year is way too much for $40,000- $60,000 a year.
Your numbers smell like poop because of where you pulled them. I knew when I read this you would spout the "and they get summers off!" garbage too. You didn't disappoint.
(most of the time the teachers used the same lesson plans year to year)
Bzzzzt. That is very hard to do. You can do roughly the same things, but I can guarantee that it isn't the same year to year.
that's only 8 or 9 hours of actual work.
Not counting grading. My wife taught 100 kids. Grade homework for 100 kids every other day, including essays, for a language class.
And then they have the summer off and at least a week or two for every major holiday.
Right. Unless they are required to take classes, or teach summer classes. Oh yeah, she always got 2 weeks off for President's day. ROFL.
As far as compensation goes they get awesome medical/dental/vision coverage and an excellent retirement plan.
Take another hit off that pipe.
Add to that, the protection of a strong union.
Not all teachers are union.
Well, I am not as familiar with teacher unions. My wife taught at a private school. Lots of wealthy, extremely demanding parents. And she still didn't get paid that well.
Teachers don't want to work long hard hours? They are ONLY there because they love it. Again, from my experience, they have to work at least 2-3 hours every night on the things that they couldn't get done while at school. And there are the weekends, field trips, after-school events, etc.
I don't get a lot of spam on my Yahoo account. Unless of course you count Yahoo's approved spam. I have reported several emails from various big companies that I get. Fox Home Entertainment being one of them. The only thing I can figure is that Yahoo has some kind of deal with companies to allow them to spam their users.
Boy, you are clever.
Well, yes and no. There are kids who can't keep up with the current educational system. It could be argued that they need more help. The smart kids will do OK if they don't get as much guidance. They could do better if they got more, but you get the idea.
And I am not saying this is how it should be, but I kind of understand why it is like that. My wife taught at a private middle-school for gifted kids. She was the French teacher. Even in that setting, where all they got was personal attention, there was a big difference between the ones at the top of the class and the bottom. In the 6th grade, the kids at the bottom could speak and write French, but struggled. The kid at the top translated a Star Wars novel into French and programmed in Perl (which is kind of like a foreign language) :) It was tough for her as a teacher to keep up with the slowest and the fastest kids. In public schools it is the same way.
All this in an environment where people love to bitch about the quality of education, but don't pay teachers what they are worth and expect endless hours out of them.
I wonder if Fox News will only play out of the far right side?
I was a senior in college, and one of my fellow CS students was doing his final project on this thing called the World Wide Web, or WWW for short. "How stupid." I thought "Why would anyone need that, when gopher and FTP works just fine? There are BBSes. I just don't get it."
Of course, as you can see, I was quite the visionary too. I also didn't understand why anyone would make such a complicated OS like Unix.
But to be fair, the WWW at the time sucked pretty bad. In my first job at Motorola, I received an award a couple of years later for being one of a few people who pushed and pushed and got our intranet configured. Some management fought it at first, seeing it as unproductive. We were using Mosaic on Unix workstations. It was all very covert at first because they didn't want people wasting time at work. They certainly didn't see the need for an intranet. There was a lot of concern about people being able to get to the internet too, so we had to deal with that.
I think it is kind of cool to have been there when it all kind of started. It is also really interesting to see how far we have come with it in such a short amount of time.
Coincidentally, DNF also stands for Did Not Finish in racing terminiology. :)
I have watched many sports events in my day. There's nothing necessarily wrong with it, I just think that it isn't healthy if you are a "sports nut". Movies are fun, although I'd rather be at a friends house. Theaters aren't personal enough for my taste, and can be much more expensive than renting. Pools/darts are always fun.
Of course, there is always participating in sports too. Basketball, volleyball, etc. I have had a blast and been in some mean games of table-tennis.
B) Sit around getting drunk. Maybe go cow tipping, or try driving an ATV. In college go play a prank on someone - toilet paper a tree, shaving creme a dorm room.(this isn't interesting to me at all).
Several years ago I would do this, and it did get old. I did my share of wild things, I grew up in remote Illinois. Getting out of that area was a big part of experiencing something other than sitting around getting drunk. And hopefully you do outgrow that. One thing that I find not enough people do is sit around, have drinks, and not get drunk. You can have social drinks, have good conversations, and not have it turn into a drunken mess. Of couse, this depends on what kind of bars you have around you. But if you find one, it is very enjoyable. Drink good beer, take your time, have some good food.
C) Have a bbq - same as the described party, but outside and there's food. A big plus there, but still a lot of standing around being bored and drinking.
BBQs are good. There is also going out to eat. You can spend an entire evening on dinner/drinks. Hopefully it would include good conversation and meeting new people. Again, this depends on if you have good places wherever you live, but you should have something that suffices.
And not every event needs to be overly planned or social. The art of conversation seems to be going the way of the BBS. (my generation's dodo) :)
Well, you are wrong. It is a company wasting (or spending) R&D time and money to specifically hurt a competitor. This alleges that they went out of their way to not optimize for their processor, but to cripple it for a competitor. That is a huge difference, and if you don't see it then you'll probably be indicted at some point in your life.
So I guess being honest gets modded as flamebait. I guess I should veil my insults better.
So if RPGs really expand your imagination, perhaps you haven't been playing enough. Why is it that if someone isn't into these games, they must be into mindless binge drinking? You aren't the only one who likes to use this as an example of how the "other people" live their lives. Another popular one seems to be sitting on a couch for hours watching sports. Granted, a lot of that goes on in the US, but you really need to expand your mind a little if you think that doing those things is the only alternative to playing your little games. If the only parties you have been to have been people getting drunk, playing poker, or watching sports then I feel sorry for you. After all, this sub-topic was about interpersonal communication afterall. But I guess there is a reason that you aren't "into" that.
No, those are just as pointless. Jeez, you really need to realize that there are other kinds of people in the world. You immediately lumped me into that group for some reason. Everyone who thinks gamers are dorks must me a meathead or one of those idiots with a Calvin peeing on a "rival" make of vehicle. For having such an expanded imagination, you seem pretty limited.
I consider myself a pretty nerdy person, but there are two things that I just never got into:
1. Star Trek
2. Role-Playing Games
I only chuckle at the Star-Trek crowd, but I can't help but just laugh at the role-playing crowd. If you ever hear two or more them in a heated conversation, it is just hilarious. I don't usually rag on people for whatever they are into, but this stuff is just ridiculous.
Actually, if you steal a movie, you'll probably get a slap on the wrist. (shoplifting)
Now if you are guilty of copyright infringement, then your head shall roll.
You forgot Ireland. Everyone immediately jumped to the conclusion that the "terrorists" were middle-eastern, when Britain has been at "war" with someone much closer to home for quite a while now.
Amen to that. Where I used to work, I heard one woman complaining about popup windows. I told her to try Firefox because it blocked popups. She said that sounded great, so we downloaded it and installed it for her.
A couple of days later, I noticed she was using IE. I asked her why she wasn't using Firefox, and her answer was "I don't know. I am used to IE".
I was amazed. She was a somewhat technical person, much more savvy than the average user. Now compare the differences between changing browsers and changing OSes.
Just went and checked - it is one of these. I know that he told me it was an actual one used in the movie. I had never noticed the plaque at the bottom, but his is indeed a replica. Busted.
The CEO of the company I work for has one. (there were several used in the movie) It sits in his office, and is quite imposing. But what a conversation piece.
If that phrase has been posted before, then it is entirely cooincidental. I can only claim that I hadn't seen it before, it came from my brain. If that is indeed the case, then others have thought the same thing and it is an argument AGAINST intellectual property. (which I am not claiming I own or anything close to it) I am saying that it is a free idea, and people can create their own store on cafepress if they want it on a Tshirt. That is why I didn't create a store and put it on a shirt.
I am willing to bet that store went up shortly after you read my comment. How creative of you. BTW, I would suggest before anyone buy one of these, you simply make your own cafepress store with the exact same shirt. It's free, and you'll save a few bucks.
Makes me want make the Tshirt:
Osama Bin Laden is pirating music
NOW will you go catch the fucker?