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And will "the community" notify my GF about not installing this patch? No, it's NEVER a good idea to install non-official patches, unless you like trojans.
Well, duh. Smash it with a hammer and throw it in the trash. Is it really worth your time to take more time trying to wipe it, then jump through the eBay hoops to post the damn thing, have them take out their exorbitant fees, deal with shipping it, etc. for $50? Just dump it, buddy.
Where do they use it? I'd use MySQL for something like a contact list, or something like this. Do they use it for anything mission critical? I kinda' doubt it.
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Uh...then look at the source code yourself.
Worst possible response. Are you suggesting that all Apple users become professional software developers? My girlfriend has trouble getting iTunes to work correctly. I don't think that the source code would mean anything to her. And no, I would NEVER suggest installing any Apple fixes that are not directly from Apple. I wouldn't care if it was Linus Torvalds, himself that was posting fixes.
Apparently, MySQL is a mish-mash of all kinds of different code. Heck, even the part that handles esoteric stuff such as stored procedures (note tongue in cheek) is part of some external module. I can't imagine that having multiple layers of API's is a good thing, considering how critical databases can be. Personally, I want my database to be consistent, and thoroughly tested, but the best being when the whole thing is designed to work together. Call me crazy, but it certainly does not give me a warm fuzzy feeling to know that stuff as critical as my database's file system is tacked on as an afterthought. (No, I don't use MySQL, primarily for these reasons).
That sucks ass. I'd be pissed at hell, and would be tempted to return the whole damn thing. I tried to work with the pre-load on my Dell a few months ago, but it was a real nightmare trying to get it clean enough for my liking. If Dell wouldn't send me an XP CD so that I could wipe the whole thing (which they did, and then I did), I probably would've returned it.
That IS contrived, actually. There's no reason I couldn't run the software on another XP computer or, just re-install XP on a new/used machine. Really, it's no big deal. I'd be much more worried about having that happen using a Linux system. The various versions come so fast, that after a few years, you'd have to pay through the nose for private, custom support. You gotta realize, that there's a big advantage to using popular, commodity software.
A vendor like Microsoft has no reason to be nice to a small- to medium-sized company, and this leaves anyone locked in to a Microsoft system vunerable.
I'm about to spend a lot more money with MS, as we migrate our point-of-sale systems to MS RMS. They have very helpful salespeople that are willing to hold my hand even though the total bill won't be in the 5 digits, and they even are financing it for me. MS is actually very easy for my small company to deal with.
and this leaves anyone locked in to a Microsoft system vunerable.
Vulnerable to what? Give me a real world scenario. I just don't see it.
Oh, I own a tiny company, and I spend more than that. I've got about 10 machines, all with licensed W2K or XP. The kicker is that my point-of-sale software costs $1600/workstation, and I have 5 workstations, and support for this software is no more than two years. That's a *lot* of money for a six person company. But really, I have no alternative. It's a cost of doing business. There's no free alternatives to my POS software, and the OSS ones simply don't do what we need them to do (integrated credit card processing, integration with Quickbooks, Win 32 API to hook into our web site, etc.). So, I have to look at my business. My options are to spend $8K every few years of software, or try to run a retail store with more than 10,000 items and over $1M/year in sales with some kludged together OSS stuff that would take a *lot* more effort, and may not even be possible without spending about 20 years worth of licensing costs to pay somebody to develop something.
If I owned a white-collar business that used computers for basic word processing and email, then sure, it doesn't really matter what you use. But how often is that the case, in this day and age? My friend, an attorney (basic office job, right?), needed some good way to handle scheduling, contacts, email, etc. Of course, he went with Exchange. Why? After spending about 6 months looking for OSS solutions (and don't forget, he could have been using those hours to bill clients at $150/hour), he had lost a ton of money, he pissed off the other lawyers in the office with all of the software mess, and he looked very unprofessional when whatever he was using wasn't working, and he couldn't respond to his clients. Finally I told him to spend a hundred bucks a month on hosted Exchange service, and get on with his law business. Everything is running pretty smoothly in that office now.
Maybe, MAYBE if I ran, hmm... maybe a... hmmm... catering company, then OSS would work. All you need is some basic financial tracking (ooops... still no payroll), and something to print pretty estimates and invoices. But really, I can't think of a lot of businesses in this day and age that would be willing to do something so dramatic to save such a small amount of money (I spend about 30 times more on rent than I do on software).
A vendor like Microsoft has no reason to be nice to a small- to medium-sized company, and this leaves anyone locked in to a Microsoft system vunerable.
OK, let's think about this realistically. MS is the largest software company on the planet, with a financial statement that rivals the largest companies on the planet. They're not going away any time soon, and their OS is used everywhere. There are tons and tons of applications of all kinds that will work with Windows.
Case in point: basic small-business accounting software. There are tons to pick from that run on Windows. You can go down to your local office supply store, and pick one of a dozen, and they'll all do the job. If you switch to OSS, you have about one choice: Gnucash, and it's mediocre at best (let's forget that it doesn't have some critical functionality, such as payroll). If Gnucash, a piece of software being written by a handful of loosely-organized volunteers in their free time, getting paid nothing, happens to die for whatever reason (very possible), then you're quite literally, SOL, unless you're a big enough company that you can pay $150/hour for programmers to re-invent the features that exist in a $100 off-the-shelf package. If you're using Quickbooks, and for some bizarre reason, Intuit shuts down (very unlikely), then you pick up Peachtree, or any of the others, export and import your data, and you're back in business.
I won't consider going to OSS because the inadvertent lock-in from having a lack of choice is very real. If I were to switch my company to OSS alternatives, there's no doubt about it, I would be "locked-in" to using what few options there are. "Lock-in" on the MS platform is unlikely. Sure, it could theoretically happen, but it makes as much sense to worry about that as it does to worry about a comet hitting the Earth tomorrow.
I feel that is is much safer for a smaller company without deep pockets to stay with mainstream software, as much as possible. Buy whatever is generic and does the job, then move on to getting to the part of the business that pays the bills.
For some people, it goes beyond technology to beliefs of free and open systems
Well, if you're personal system, it doesn't matter what you use. But this guy is talking about a business. If it's anything like my business, computer downtime costs a lot of money, and a lot of families depend on those computers being up and functional. I think that basing what should be a business decision on a (questionable) philosophy can be a pretty irresponsible move. If it goes badly, what do you say to the employees who are not getting paychecks? "Sorry about not being able to pay you, but our software is Free, which makes it... better. Sorry about not being able to pay for food."
That's not an exaggeration. If our computers at my business (retail) went down for any signficiant amount of time, then I've got to lay off people.
I defy you (or anyone over the age of 4) to do that sort of thing in Windows with a mouse.
Visual Basic. It doesn't get any easier than that. I have a small mind, so I'd rather use what's left of my small mind to do things that are more entertaining than learning shell scripting.
As always, there's not enough information. Why do you want to do this? What are you trying to accomplish? What apps? How critical are they? If you want to switch just for the sake of switching, then really, you should be fired.
That's not true. It's because in Linux, you have to go back to the 1980's, when you had to memorize esoteric commands in order to get your computer to do what any 4 year old can do now in Windows with a mouse. Well, you don't literally go back in time, but the functionality is reminiscent of the 1980's. Ugh. You might as say, "punch cards are just a bit different".
What we have here is an excellent example of why Windows is just *not* trusted for "critical systems".
Hey idiot, your car isn't running Unix, either. Just because it's a "computer" doesn't mean that an embedded system is any way, shape, or form like your PC.
It boggles the mind that any democracy-loving representative can stand for this.
The United States Ministry of Language would like you to know that we live in a "Freedom-loving" country. We love "Freedom" according to President Bush. "Freedom" != "Democracy"
No, it can't be proved, but temperatures and especially CO2 levels, are hitting levels that, according to analysis of the same ice, hasn't happened in literally hundreds of thousands of years. Of course, it could all be the biggest coincidence in the history of the planet (except for the formation of life, of course).
Windows makes a sucky web server. Unfortunately, to do the same programming that I did on my Windows box is a lot more complicated on a Unix box. Still not sure what I'm gonna do...
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My favorite isn't on the list. I like torrentspy.com
And will "the community" notify my GF about not installing this patch? No, it's NEVER a good idea to install non-official patches, unless you like trojans.
Well, duh. Smash it with a hammer and throw it in the trash. Is it really worth your time to take more time trying to wipe it, then jump through the eBay hoops to post the damn thing, have them take out their exorbitant fees, deal with shipping it, etc. for $50? Just dump it, buddy.
Where do they use it? I'd use MySQL for something like a contact list, or something like this. Do they use it for anything mission critical? I kinda' doubt it.
Uh...then look at the source code yourself.
Worst possible response. Are you suggesting that all Apple users become professional software developers? My girlfriend has trouble getting iTunes to work correctly. I don't think that the source code would mean anything to her. And no, I would NEVER suggest installing any Apple fixes that are not directly from Apple. I wouldn't care if it was Linus Torvalds, himself that was posting fixes.
Apparently, MySQL is a mish-mash of all kinds of different code. Heck, even the part that handles esoteric stuff such as stored procedures (note tongue in cheek) is part of some external module. I can't imagine that having multiple layers of API's is a good thing, considering how critical databases can be. Personally, I want my database to be consistent, and thoroughly tested, but the best being when the whole thing is designed to work together. Call me crazy, but it certainly does not give me a warm fuzzy feeling to know that stuff as critical as my database's file system is tacked on as an afterthought. (No, I don't use MySQL, primarily for these reasons).
That sucks ass. I'd be pissed at hell, and would be tempted to return the whole damn thing. I tried to work with the pre-load on my Dell a few months ago, but it was a real nightmare trying to get it clean enough for my liking. If Dell wouldn't send me an XP CD so that I could wipe the whole thing (which they did, and then I did), I probably would've returned it.
Now that he's burnt through software and hardware makers,
You're right. It's nearly impossible to find hardware or software that works with Microsoft products.
So, despite tremendous family money and legal connections and great initial success, Microsoft will soon fail.
Are you actually delusional, or just trolling?
Half of all new computers sold in 2007 will be laptops and 20 percent of those will be Apple's MacBooks."
I doubt this. But then, Wired has always been even bigger Apple shills than Slashdot is.
All you gotta do is ask the company to send you one. Dell does it. I'm sure that HP does, too.
That IS contrived, actually. There's no reason I couldn't run the software on another XP computer or, just re-install XP on a new/used machine. Really, it's no big deal. I'd be much more worried about having that happen using a Linux system. The various versions come so fast, that after a few years, you'd have to pay through the nose for private, custom support. You gotta realize, that there's a big advantage to using popular, commodity software.
That's not a useable payroll system.
Well, they are. If I don't like their software any more, I'll buy something else in a few years. I'm not selling them my soul. It's just software.
A vendor like Microsoft has no reason to be nice to a small- to medium-sized company, and this leaves anyone locked in to a Microsoft system vunerable.
I'm about to spend a lot more money with MS, as we migrate our point-of-sale systems to MS RMS. They have very helpful salespeople that are willing to hold my hand even though the total bill won't be in the 5 digits, and they even are financing it for me. MS is actually very easy for my small company to deal with.
and this leaves anyone locked in to a Microsoft system vunerable.
Vulnerable to what? Give me a real world scenario. I just don't see it.
Oh, I own a tiny company, and I spend more than that. I've got about 10 machines, all with licensed W2K or XP. The kicker is that my point-of-sale software costs $1600/workstation, and I have 5 workstations, and support for this software is no more than two years. That's a *lot* of money for a six person company. But really, I have no alternative. It's a cost of doing business. There's no free alternatives to my POS software, and the OSS ones simply don't do what we need them to do (integrated credit card processing, integration with Quickbooks, Win 32 API to hook into our web site, etc.). So, I have to look at my business. My options are to spend $8K every few years of software, or try to run a retail store with more than 10,000 items and over $1M/year in sales with some kludged together OSS stuff that would take a *lot* more effort, and may not even be possible without spending about 20 years worth of licensing costs to pay somebody to develop something.
If I owned a white-collar business that used computers for basic word processing and email, then sure, it doesn't really matter what you use. But how often is that the case, in this day and age? My friend, an attorney (basic office job, right?), needed some good way to handle scheduling, contacts, email, etc. Of course, he went with Exchange. Why? After spending about 6 months looking for OSS solutions (and don't forget, he could have been using those hours to bill clients at $150/hour), he had lost a ton of money, he pissed off the other lawyers in the office with all of the software mess, and he looked very unprofessional when whatever he was using wasn't working, and he couldn't respond to his clients. Finally I told him to spend a hundred bucks a month on hosted Exchange service, and get on with his law business. Everything is running pretty smoothly in that office now.
Maybe, MAYBE if I ran, hmm... maybe a... hmmm... catering company, then OSS would work. All you need is some basic financial tracking (ooops... still no payroll), and something to print pretty estimates and invoices. But really, I can't think of a lot of businesses in this day and age that would be willing to do something so dramatic to save such a small amount of money (I spend about 30 times more on rent than I do on software).
A vendor like Microsoft has no reason to be nice to a small- to medium-sized company, and this leaves anyone locked in to a Microsoft system vunerable.
OK, let's think about this realistically. MS is the largest software company on the planet, with a financial statement that rivals the largest companies on the planet. They're not going away any time soon, and their OS is used everywhere. There are tons and tons of applications of all kinds that will work with Windows.
Case in point: basic small-business accounting software. There are tons to pick from that run on Windows. You can go down to your local office supply store, and pick one of a dozen, and they'll all do the job. If you switch to OSS, you have about one choice: Gnucash, and it's mediocre at best (let's forget that it doesn't have some critical functionality, such as payroll). If Gnucash, a piece of software being written by a handful of loosely-organized volunteers in their free time, getting paid nothing, happens to die for whatever reason (very possible), then you're quite literally, SOL, unless you're a big enough company that you can pay $150/hour for programmers to re-invent the features that exist in a $100 off-the-shelf package. If you're using Quickbooks, and for some bizarre reason, Intuit shuts down (very unlikely), then you pick up Peachtree, or any of the others, export and import your data, and you're back in business.
I won't consider going to OSS because the inadvertent lock-in from having a lack of choice is very real. If I were to switch my company to OSS alternatives, there's no doubt about it, I would be "locked-in" to using what few options there are. "Lock-in" on the MS platform is unlikely. Sure, it could theoretically happen, but it makes as much sense to worry about that as it does to worry about a comet hitting the Earth tomorrow.
I feel that is is much safer for a smaller company without deep pockets to stay with mainstream software, as much as possible. Buy whatever is generic and does the job, then move on to getting to the part of the business that pays the bills.
For some people, it goes beyond technology to beliefs of free and open systems
Well, if you're personal system, it doesn't matter what you use. But this guy is talking about a business. If it's anything like my business, computer downtime costs a lot of money, and a lot of families depend on those computers being up and functional. I think that basing what should be a business decision on a (questionable) philosophy can be a pretty irresponsible move. If it goes badly, what do you say to the employees who are not getting paychecks? "Sorry about not being able to pay you, but our software is Free, which makes it... better. Sorry about not being able to pay for food."
That's not an exaggeration. If our computers at my business (retail) went down for any signficiant amount of time, then I've got to lay off people.
I defy you (or anyone over the age of 4) to do that sort of thing in Windows with a mouse.
Visual Basic. It doesn't get any easier than that. I have a small mind, so I'd rather use what's left of my small mind to do things that are more entertaining than learning shell scripting.
As always, there's not enough information. Why do you want to do this? What are you trying to accomplish? What apps? How critical are they? If you want to switch just for the sake of switching, then really, you should be fired.
is because it is a bit different from Windows.
That's not true. It's because in Linux, you have to go back to the 1980's, when you had to memorize esoteric commands in order to get your computer to do what any 4 year old can do now in Windows with a mouse. Well, you don't literally go back in time, but the functionality is reminiscent of the 1980's. Ugh. You might as say, "punch cards are just a bit different".
The competition is fierce.
What competition? In my small business, there really aren't any viable competitors, as far as the OS goes, due to price, and software availability.
What we have here is an excellent example of why Windows is just *not* trusted for "critical systems".
Hey idiot, your car isn't running Unix, either. Just because it's a "computer" doesn't mean that an embedded system is any way, shape, or form like your PC.
It boggles the mind that any democracy-loving representative can stand for this.
The United States Ministry of Language would like you to know that we live in a "Freedom-loving" country. We love "Freedom" according to President Bush. "Freedom" != "Democracy"
No, it can't be proved, but temperatures and especially CO2 levels, are hitting levels that, according to analysis of the same ice, hasn't happened in literally hundreds of thousands of years. Of course, it could all be the biggest coincidence in the history of the planet (except for the formation of life, of course).
Windows makes a sucky web server. Unfortunately, to do the same programming that I did on my Windows box is a lot more complicated on a Unix box. Still not sure what I'm gonna do...