I was at a PJ show a few years ago, and about halfway through, Eddie started talking between songs. He pointed at a guy toward the front and said something along the lines of, "I just want to point out this motherfucker here. He's had his arm in the air recording the show the whole damn time, and he hasn't had a free arm to put around his girl. Pass that thing up here". The audience passed up the guy's recorder (DAT, Minidisc, whatever), and Eddie takes it and jokes, "This motherfucker thinks he's getting it back [laugh]" He then says something directly into the recorder, off-mike, just for the guy's recorder. Then he puts the recorder down near his feet near some speakers to get a good recording.
I'm sure that this very lucky concertgoer got an unbelievable recording when he got his recorder back, which I'm sure was right after the band spoke with the crippled kids who got to watch the show from ON STAGE.
Not only is PJ probably the best rock band of the 1990's (and 2000's, so far), but they're really great guys.
hehehe.... my Net access is from a free, public wireless access point. All the RIAA knows about me is my machine name and the access point. Of course, they'd have to get search warrants for all local homes & businesses to find my machine. I wish them luck.
The license requires them to make sure that every single one of their users understands that they are using open source software and where they can get the source.
No it doesn't. Following is the piece from the GPL that says that the license has to be conspicuous, but it doesn't say that each user has to understand what they're using. They can bury it in a clickthrough license area, and they'd be fine. That's my point. It's too bad if the "community" feels that they're not playing nice. They're just following the GPL, and if the GPL isn't clear enough, that's the developers' problem for using it in the first place.
I knew this was going to happen years ago. I knew that the OSS movement, once companies started really exploiting their code and making tons of money on it, would be upset that they were getting the short end of the stick, when in reality, it was their own short sightedness that led to this in the first place. Nobody held a gun to their heads requiring them to program for free.
You may copy and distribute verbatim copies of the Program's source code as you receive it, in any medium, provided that you conspicuously and appropriately publish on each copy an appropriate copyright notice and disclaimer of warranty; keep intact all the notices that refer to this License and to the absence of any warranty; and give any other recipients of the Program a copy of this License along with the Program.
From what I understand, Java Desktop DOES acknowledge it, but not in a glaringly obvious way. There's nothing in the GPL that says that it must be mentioned in large, 48 point letters on the splash screen. If Sun wants to make a tiny little acknowledgement buried somewhere, that's up to them. Again, this should have been thought about by the contributors long before they started coding.
Besides, there has been no legal defense of the GPL yet since nobody has enough money to defend it. It hasn't even proven to be a truly viable license, yet.
This is another case of OSS people saying, "I gave my stuff away for free... now it's not fair." To this I say, sorry kids. You gave it away for free. You're not entitled to money or acknowledgement of any kind. Sure, that's great if somebody gives you a pat on the head and says, "Now that's a good little coder. Go back to work and build me something good. I have to re-upholster my jet." But you're not entitled to it, and expecting as such is ridiculous. As long as Sun does what the "license" says, they don't have to acknowledge squat.
Windows - Shitty default set-up and lax security leads to virusus and spyware running rampant after a few expeditions onto the Internet. Multitude of installed programs clutter up the filesystem. After a while starts to significantly slow down.
I would suggest not installing everything that you can download. I've never re-installed any of my Windows 2000 machines. Ever. I've got about 10 doing various things from web serving, playing games, acting as point of sale systems, etc.
You obviously don't own a business that supports you and your family. If you did, you wouldn't take this so flippantly. SCO could care less if you're running you l33t gamerz box on Linux, so you have nothing to worry about. It definitely concerns those of us whose livelihoods depend on our computers.
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Oh, I agree; it definitely locks you in. I don't know any 2 DB's that have the same stored proc language, although I have seen tools to convert between, say, PL/SQL and T-SQL. That being said, the DB is even less likely to be changed than a webserver is, so I think that "lock" in is less critical at the RDBMS level. And, the larger the company is, the less likely they are to even change database vendors.
I think that parent doesn't know what stored procs are. I see it all of the time. It seems that very few of the latest batch of new web app developers know what a database is and what they do. The vast majority that I've seen tend to use databases as a flat file for pulling info out of. Very rarely have I seen an app developed properly, with business logic and security and logging in the database engine, where it usually belongs.
treating each element in the table as an object, the object is loaded with the security of the entity at the time of instantiation
This adds, and duplicates an enormous amount of complexity and overhead. I've seen two large scale projects programmed this way fail because performance and time to develop were so incredibly poor. In one case, a company folded because the team leads went with this boneheaded architecture instead of my suggestions. Security belongs in a database. A good RDBMS is moer secure than anything one person could write because the databases (ie: Oracle) have been around for many, many years.
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No, I didn't say separate files, I said STORED PROCEDURES. Yes, this is the way it should be done, and this is the way that all of my web projects are done. Stored procedures are faster, more secure, and allow for code re-use. There's nothing wrong with SQL, you just shouldn't put it in server-side scripted web sites.
You don't know what stored procedures are. You probably use MySQL, right? Check out Google definitions of stored procedures: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe =UTF-8&oi=defmore&q=define:stored+procedur e
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Stored procedures still require SQL code to be embedded in the client code - and therefore still requires the mixing of code and data.
Have you ever used a stored procedure? You call the name of it, and that's it. You give the web server permission to call the stored procs.
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I am often amazed that more people aren't working towards programatic ways to express SQL queries and/or regular expressions
They're called stored procedures. They've existed for at least 20 years.
It's very simple. The IT industry in the US is largely now a low-paying, blue collar job. If you want to make more money, you're gonna have to do something else. Find a new profession. There's nothing that you can do about it. Get over it.
Switch to Open Office and you can migrate gradually to Unix or Linux desktops using the same Office system throughout. The mere possibility of doing this should be more than enough justification for most businesses evaluating Open Office.
That's a great statement, but it ain't true. Our business doesn't need an Office package. Our hangup are other, specialized programs.
and the fact that they will have no say at all if they want to hold off an upgrade for lets say 6 or 7 years.
Really? Do you have details on this new federal forced-upgrade law? This is news to me. Crazy us, we've been using Office 97 for years, and I guess that I've just been lucky to to get arrested and locked up! What's the law say about required Open Office upgrade?
Really? Damn, you learn something every day. I'm definitely looking into it, and I'll watch it closely. If, by the time you're allowed to short, the stock is worth anything at all, I'll still short, definitely. This company is pretty much a guaranteed dud. Getting into Wal-Mart was a real fluke, and I'm sure that with all the negative press, Wal-Mart regrets it. I'm actually surprised they haven't dropped Lindows machines altogether. I assume they're waiting out some sort of contract.
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I was at a PJ show a few years ago, and about halfway through, Eddie started talking between songs. He pointed at a guy toward the front and said something along the lines of, "I just want to point out this motherfucker here. He's had his arm in the air recording the show the whole damn time, and he hasn't had a free arm to put around his girl. Pass that thing up here". The audience passed up the guy's recorder (DAT, Minidisc, whatever), and Eddie takes it and jokes, "This motherfucker thinks he's getting it back [laugh]" He then says something directly into the recorder, off-mike, just for the guy's recorder. Then he puts the recorder down near his feet near some speakers to get a good recording.
I'm sure that this very lucky concertgoer got an unbelievable recording when he got his recorder back, which I'm sure was right after the band spoke with the crippled kids who got to watch the show from ON STAGE.
Not only is PJ probably the best rock band of the 1990's (and 2000's, so far), but they're really great guys.
First off, it's "Jerry".
Secondly, there are other bands that do this: Pearl Jam, the Allman Brothers, and I'm pretty sure Phish, among others.
hehehe.... my Net access is from a free, public wireless access point. All the RIAA knows about me is my machine name and the access point. Of course, they'd have to get search warrants for all local homes & businesses to find my machine.
I wish them luck.
The license requires them to make sure that every single one of their users understands that they are using open source software and where they can get the source.
No it doesn't. Following is the piece from the GPL that says that the license has to be conspicuous, but it doesn't say that each user has to understand what they're using. They can bury it in a clickthrough license area, and they'd be fine. That's my point. It's too bad if the "community" feels that they're not playing nice. They're just following the GPL, and if the GPL isn't clear enough, that's the developers' problem for using it in the first place.
I knew this was going to happen years ago. I knew that the OSS movement, once companies started really exploiting their code and making tons of money on it, would be upset that they were getting the short end of the stick, when in reality, it was their own short sightedness that led to this in the first place. Nobody held a gun to their heads requiring them to program for free.
You may copy and distribute verbatim copies of the Program's source code as you receive it, in any medium, provided that you conspicuously and appropriately publish on each copy an appropriate copyright notice and disclaimer of warranty; keep intact all the notices that refer to this License and to the absence of any warranty; and give any other recipients of the Program a copy of this License along with the Program.
From what I understand, Java Desktop DOES acknowledge it, but not in a glaringly obvious way. There's nothing in the GPL that says that it must be mentioned in large, 48 point letters on the splash screen. If Sun wants to make a tiny little acknowledgement buried somewhere, that's up to them. Again, this should have been thought about by the contributors long before they started coding.
Besides, there has been no legal defense of the GPL yet since nobody has enough money to defend it. It hasn't even proven to be a truly viable license, yet.
This is another case of OSS people saying, "I gave my stuff away for free... now it's not fair." To this I say, sorry kids. You gave it away for free. You're not entitled to money or acknowledgement of any kind. Sure, that's great if somebody gives you a pat on the head and says, "Now that's a good little coder. Go back to work and build me something good. I have to re-upholster my jet." But you're not entitled to it, and expecting as such is ridiculous. As long as Sun does what the "license" says, they don't have to acknowledge squat.
Windows - Shitty default set-up and lax security leads to virusus and spyware running rampant after a few expeditions onto the Internet. Multitude of installed programs clutter up the filesystem. After a while starts to significantly slow down.
I would suggest not installing everything that you can download. I've never re-installed any of my Windows 2000 machines. Ever. I've got about 10 doing various things from web serving, playing games, acting as point of sale systems, etc.
Wouldn't this guy's time be better spent reading a "Computers for Dummies" book so he wouldn't have to re-install every month?
...so I can unplug the monitor and get back to work at my main machine and control all of my other machines.
Then, it's usually Winzip, Textpad, blah, blah, blah. But VNC is always first.
Actually, it's easy to check.
"Yawn".
You obviously don't own a business that supports you and your family. If you did, you wouldn't take this so flippantly. SCO could care less if you're running you l33t gamerz box on Linux, so you have nothing to worry about. It definitely concerns those of us whose livelihoods depend on our computers.
Oh, I agree; it definitely locks you in. I don't know any 2 DB's that have the same stored proc language, although I have seen tools to convert between, say, PL/SQL and T-SQL. That being said, the DB is even less likely to be changed than a webserver is, so I think that "lock" in is less critical at the RDBMS level. And, the larger the company is, the less likely they are to even change database vendors.
I think that parent doesn't know what stored procs are. I see it all of the time. It seems that very few of the latest batch of new web app developers know what a database is and what they do. The vast majority that I've seen tend to use databases as a flat file for pulling info out of. Very rarely have I seen an app developed properly, with business logic and security and logging in the database engine, where it usually belongs.
treating each element in the table as an object, the object is loaded with the security of the entity at the time of instantiation
This adds, and duplicates an enormous amount of complexity and overhead. I've seen two large scale projects programmed this way fail because performance and time to develop were so incredibly poor. In one case, a company folded because the team leads went with this boneheaded architecture instead of my suggestions. Security belongs in a database. A good RDBMS is moer secure than anything one person could write because the databases (ie: Oracle) have been around for many, many years.
No, I didn't say separate files, I said STORED PROCEDURES. Yes, this is the way it should be done, and this is the way that all of my web projects are done. Stored procedures are faster, more secure, and allow for code re-use. There's nothing wrong with SQL, you just shouldn't put it in server-side scripted web sites.
e =UTF-8&oi=defmore&q=define:stored+procedur e
You don't know what stored procedures are. You probably use MySQL, right? Check out Google definitions of stored procedures: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&o
Stored procedures still require SQL code to be embedded in the client code - and therefore still requires the mixing of code and data.
Have you ever used a stored procedure? You call the name of it, and that's it. You give the web server permission to call the stored procs.
I am often amazed that more people aren't working towards programatic ways to express SQL queries and/or regular expressions
They're called stored procedures. They've existed for at least 20 years.
And why would you need that? If I lost one of my ex-wives in Legoland or whatever theme park, I'd drive away just as fast as I could!
It's very simple. The IT industry in the US is largely now a low-paying, blue collar job. If you want to make more money, you're gonna have to do something else. Find a new profession. There's nothing that you can do about it. Get over it.
Switch to Open Office and you can migrate gradually to Unix or Linux desktops using the same Office system throughout. The mere possibility of doing this should be more than enough justification for most businesses evaluating Open Office.
That's a great statement, but it ain't true. Our business doesn't need an Office package. Our hangup are other, specialized programs.
and the fact that they will have no say at all if they want to hold off an upgrade for lets say 6 or 7 years.
Really? Do you have details on this new federal forced-upgrade law? This is news to me. Crazy us, we've been using Office 97 for years, and I guess that I've just been lucky to to get arrested and locked up! What's the law say about required Open Office upgrade?
Kinda' like ODBC did so many years ago, huh?
Linux, Apache, Mysql, and Perl. They changed the world forever.
Hitler also changed the world forever. What's your point?
Linux fanatics? Lindows? You don't pay much attention to the group you like tweaking, do you?
Good point. I can't wait for all of the techie-wannabes-who-know-the-"Linux"-buzzword types to drive it through the roof the first day!!
Really? Damn, you learn something every day. I'm definitely looking into it, and I'll watch it closely. If, by the time you're allowed to short, the stock is worth anything at all, I'll still short, definitely. This company is pretty much a guaranteed dud. Getting into Wal-Mart was a real fluke, and I'm sure that with all the negative press, Wal-Mart regrets it. I'm actually surprised they haven't dropped Lindows machines altogether. I assume they're waiting out some sort of contract.
It amazes me how people who know little to nothing about computers are so eager to talk out of their ass about how easy something is to implement.
select billing_state, sum(sale_price) from tbl_sales where date_sold '2/1/2004' group by billing_state
Oooh, that was hard, huh? Jackass.