Oh please. Get off your high horse. You go around saying that you're a hacker, and argue with the FBI agents once they handcuff you, jackass. I suppose that you could argue that "child molester" actually means a person who makes and sells ice cream, and you could wear a t-shirt that says "I am a child molester". You'd get a good ass pounding for that.
and yes - it should be held accountable if infact it causes the customers conciderable financial (or health, or whatever) damage.
Only if there's negligence. I could get killed by choking on a Twinkie, but Twinkie wasn't negligent. If MS can show that they do their best to make an exceedingly complicated secure, AND they say "hey, this may not be 100% secure", then they're pretty much covered. Accidents happen. I really doubt that there are people as MS who say, "Hey, I know... let's make this product insecure!" On top of that hey do patch very fast, and they offer a 100% automated feature on their OS's at least that patch for the consumer.
So then, you just live off of your parents, huh? People who have to pay bills who aren't indepdently wealthy can't turn down work for something as frivilous as "not trusting corporations".
Not everyone is in IT I would agree. But just imagine if MS went away tomorrow, where would you be? Even non-IT people can benefit from learning other tools besides MS.
I'd be in more trouble if the sun suddenly exploded tomorrow, which is about as likely. What IS more likely is using an obscure OSS package, then the kid who wrote it, say, gets kicked out of college, and doesn't have broadband at his parent's house, so he can't support it any more. Or, the OSS company that wrote it goes belly up. Call me nuts, but I feel a bit more secure with one of the largest companies in the world backing up my software than some college kids working out of their dorms.
Exactly. A W2K Pro license costs me $200. Assuming that my time is worth only $20/hour, I'm only saving money if I spend less than 10/hours per box figuring out things like what to download, how to download, download time, how to install, how to change the resolution, time to find the various drivers, a trip to the store to buy Linux-compliant parts, how the hell to get the modem working, etc. which isn't likely to take less than 10 hours.
Might want to start investing in your own future and learn another OS.
My job isn't to learn OS's. I have a business to run. Not everybody is an IT geek. I pay MS a few hundred, install the software, then go on with my life.
. Call me crazy but I really believe that government should always choose the least expensive option whenever possibe
A government is not a business. I was once told that a business is run to maximize profits, and a government is run to maximize fairness. Governments don't run like this. If they did, things like the US mail wouldn't be guaranteed to everybody. It'd be too expensive to run mail out to people in the country. Paved roads? Again, only in populated areas where the tax money can support it. Education? Fuck the kids. They're too expensive.
Sorry kid, but that's a pretty shitty topic for a thesis of any kind because you haven't thought it out more than deciding which candy bar to buy.
If you're saying that you have to spend on service for OSS what the price of commercial software would be PLUS their service, fine. That also indicates a shitty product if service costs that much. Assuming it's equally as easy to install and maintain as the off the shelf software, then there's a net loss in the development jobs.
That's wrong. I gladly pay for my W2K licenses because it helps me get more work done quicker. For me to learn how to use Linux, it would take me many, many hours. Time is money, kiddo. No OS is free.
Oh yeah... I think it's 1024 bit encryption, or something as ridiculous. Either way, I'm working with a very very large merchant bank, and I trust them to handle the encryption end of it, since they'd be liable if something went wrong.
OK first off, you're not being "cursed at" because the actors don't know you're there. The TV is a one-way device. They're not "cursing at you". Secondly, that's real life. Unless you live in a monastery, people swear. All the fucking time. So it's good acting and writing when people swear, in say, an action movie. In the case of the Die Hards, I kinda' doubt Bruce Willis' character would be saying "oh darn" or "gollee gee whiz, that hurts". In life, people swear.
I have a retail store, so it's not essential, but so far, uptime in my town has been excellent. The nice thing that I can do is settle credit card transactions online instead of over a modem, which cuts the settlement time from about 20-30 seconds to about 2 seconds. Very nice. I'm lucky. A $75 Yagi directional antenna, and that was the only expense, ever!
I've got free wireless broadband in my town, too. I had to get an antenna to get it to my building, but it works great, and it helps my business a lot by saving $100+/month on a (slower) DSL connection.
That said, if there is one thing to fix on TV, I would make the language get fixed. Prime time TV has become a sewer. "I Love Lucy" was (and still is) a funny show without having to have the characters talk like sailors. There are some situations where I understand it (ER does a good job for the most part) but overall I think there is too much cursing on TV. That famous "7 words you can't say on TV" bit (I think it's George Carlin's?), I think I heard that almost all of those words are allowed now.
Fuck you. I'm an adult, and I don't appreciate being spoken down to for the sake of not offending a handful of religious nutjobs. That's why I never watch movies that are broadcast on TV. The commercials, fine. But when Bruce Willis starts saying "poop" instead of "shit", I get really fucking pissed off.
...and if you don't know that, then, well, you shouldn't be watching TV. I mean really... selling on TV! Oooh! TV shows on broadcast TV are not some pristine, ad-free venues for directors and writers. They're corporate schlock designed to sell or to influence. Hell, the US gov't has been paying TV series for years if they include a "drungs are bad, m'kay?" theme in the story. Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to go purchase a fantastic/. t-shirt from Think Geek
I couldn't care if they were honest or not, jsut as long as they got me a job. That, and kept buying me dinners & lunches. They'd call me, and I'd say, "Sure, let's talk. Over lunch.", then I'd have them meet me at a very nice place for steaks and/or sushi. Why would I care if they were honest? They got me the jobs, and as long as I got paid, I didn't care if I ever saw them again (but I usually did call them up for dinner/lunch every few months).
This is such a dead issue, it's laughable. Really. This book would have been useful in say, 1999, but today, it's a moot fucking point. It's kinda' like a rant about how Betamax is the "official standard". It's ridiculous, outdated, and purely academic. There hasn't been a significant (or even insignificant) change in web browsing in years, and there's unlikely to be one any time soon. And when there is, it's highly unlikely that everything is going to break.
This seems like a ridiculous suggestion. This is essentially backwards capitalism, which quite simply, doesn't work. I could create plenty of jobs... I could throw out my business' computers and instead hire a few people to track inventory by hand and place orders by manually counting inventory. Sure, I'd create more jobs, but those jobs would be very short lived, ebcause I'd quickly go out of business. Efficiency, in the long run, *does* produce wealth. That's how capitalism works. We may not see "wealth" growing in the US, but in the economy (which is now a world economy), wealth is most definitely being created. Standards of living are rising exponentially around the globe, even as they slip in the US. Nothing's broken. Nothing to see here. Go back to work.
The main point is that we need to inforce the GPL and out of principle and fairness. It wouldn't be good to crack down on licence violations in cases where we have something to gain and then willingly turn a blind eye to others. We don't want to be seen playing a bait and charge game like what happened with GIF and MP3. We need to be diligent and fair in this manner, find out what source is not being released, and who is holding it back (be it Linksys themselves, or one of their partners), and see to it that they obey the terms of our licence. If we don't, then people will get the impression that we don't care if they violate our license.
Who's this "we"? How's it going to be enforced? Who's paying the attorneys?
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Oh please. Get off your high horse. You go around saying that you're a hacker, and argue with the FBI agents once they handcuff you, jackass. I suppose that you could argue that "child molester" actually means a person who makes and sells ice cream, and you could wear a t-shirt that says "I am a child molester". You'd get a good ass pounding for that.
How complex is it to look at a security warning and click on windows update?
You don't even do that. I think that at least on XP, Windows Update defaults to 100% automatic.
and yes - it should be held accountable if infact it causes the customers conciderable financial (or health, or whatever) damage.
Only if there's negligence. I could get killed by choking on a Twinkie, but Twinkie wasn't negligent. If MS can show that they do their best to make an exceedingly complicated secure, AND they say "hey, this may not be 100% secure", then they're pretty much covered. Accidents happen. I really doubt that there are people as MS who say, "Hey, I know... let's make this product insecure!" On top of that hey do patch very fast, and they offer a 100% automated feature on their OS's at least that patch for the consumer.
So then, you just live off of your parents, huh? People who have to pay bills who aren't indepdently wealthy can't turn down work for something as frivilous as "not trusting corporations".
Why on earth would people buy this...are they really so lazy that driving to the movie store is such an effort (please don't answer that!).
You're talking to a group of people that does most of their shopping online. What do you think?
Not everyone is in IT I would agree. But just imagine if MS went away tomorrow, where would you be? Even non-IT people can benefit from learning other tools besides MS.
I'd be in more trouble if the sun suddenly exploded tomorrow, which is about as likely. What IS more likely is using an obscure OSS package, then the kid who wrote it, say, gets kicked out of college, and doesn't have broadband at his parent's house, so he can't support it any more. Or, the OSS company that wrote it goes belly up. Call me nuts, but I feel a bit more secure with one of the largest companies in the world backing up my software than some college kids working out of their dorms.
Exactly. A W2K Pro license costs me $200. Assuming that my time is worth only $20/hour, I'm only saving money if I spend less than 10/hours per box figuring out things like what to download, how to download, download time, how to install, how to change the resolution, time to find the various drivers, a trip to the store to buy Linux-compliant parts, how the hell to get the modem working, etc. which isn't likely to take less than 10 hours.
Might want to start investing in your own future and learn another OS.
My job isn't to learn OS's. I have a business to run. Not everybody is an IT geek. I pay MS a few hundred, install the software, then go on with my life.
. Call me crazy but I really believe that government should always choose the least expensive option whenever possibe
A government is not a business. I was once told that a business is run to maximize profits, and a government is run to maximize fairness. Governments don't run like this. If they did, things like the US mail wouldn't be guaranteed to everybody. It'd be too expensive to run mail out to people in the country. Paved roads? Again, only in populated areas where the tax money can support it. Education? Fuck the kids. They're too expensive.
Sorry kid, but that's a pretty shitty topic for a thesis of any kind because you haven't thought it out more than deciding which candy bar to buy.
20% of desktops and 30% of servers.
OTOH you need to buy service instead.
If you're saying that you have to spend on service for OSS what the price of commercial software would be PLUS their service, fine. That also indicates a shitty product if service costs that much. Assuming it's equally as easy to install and maintain as the off the shelf software, then there's a net loss in the development jobs.
The effective cost of an OS is now $0
That's wrong. I gladly pay for my W2K licenses because it helps me get more work done quicker. For me to learn how to use Linux, it would take me many, many hours. Time is money, kiddo. No OS is free.
Oh yeah... I think it's 1024 bit encryption, or something as ridiculous. Either way, I'm working with a very very large merchant bank, and I trust them to handle the encryption end of it, since they'd be liable if something went wrong.
OK first off, you're not being "cursed at" because the actors don't know you're there. The TV is a one-way device. They're not "cursing at you".
Secondly, that's real life. Unless you live in a monastery, people swear. All the fucking time. So it's good acting and writing when people swear, in say, an action movie. In the case of the Die Hards, I kinda' doubt Bruce Willis' character would be saying "oh darn" or "gollee gee whiz, that hurts". In life, people swear.
I have a retail store, so it's not essential, but so far, uptime in my town has been excellent. The nice thing that I can do is settle credit card transactions online instead of over a modem, which cuts the settlement time from about 20-30 seconds to about 2 seconds. Very nice. I'm lucky. A $75 Yagi directional antenna, and that was the only expense, ever!
I've got free wireless broadband in my town, too. I had to get an antenna to get it to my building, but it works great, and it helps my business a lot by saving $100+/month on a (slower) DSL connection.
The average smuck (like most of us) wants...
I really hope that this was a clever reference to Ishtar. Otherwise, it's "schmuck", you schmuck.
A-fucking-men. Unfortunately, I use that float every single day.
That said, if there is one thing to fix on TV, I would make the language get fixed. Prime time TV has become a sewer. "I Love Lucy" was (and still is) a funny show without having to have the characters talk like sailors. There are some situations where I understand it (ER does a good job for the most part) but overall I think there is too much cursing on TV. That famous "7 words you can't say on TV" bit (I think it's George Carlin's?), I think I heard that almost all of those words are allowed now.
Fuck you. I'm an adult, and I don't appreciate being spoken down to for the sake of not offending a handful of religious nutjobs. That's why I never watch movies that are broadcast on TV. The commercials, fine. But when Bruce Willis starts saying "poop" instead of "shit", I get really fucking pissed off.
...and if you don't know that, then, well, you shouldn't be watching TV. I mean really... selling on TV! Oooh! TV shows on broadcast TV are not some pristine, ad-free venues for directors and writers. They're corporate schlock designed to sell or to influence. Hell, the US gov't has been paying TV series for years if they include a "drungs are bad, m'kay?" theme in the story. Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to go purchase a fantastic /. t-shirt from Think Geek
I couldn't care if they were honest or not, jsut as long as they got me a job. That, and kept buying me dinners & lunches. They'd call me, and I'd say, "Sure, let's talk. Over lunch.", then I'd have them meet me at a very nice place for steaks and/or sushi. Why would I care if they were honest? They got me the jobs, and as long as I got paid, I didn't care if I ever saw them again (but I usually did call them up for dinner/lunch every few months).
This is such a dead issue, it's laughable. Really. This book would have been useful in say, 1999, but today, it's a moot fucking point. It's kinda' like a rant about how Betamax is the "official standard". It's ridiculous, outdated, and purely academic. There hasn't been a significant (or even insignificant) change in web browsing in years, and there's unlikely to be one any time soon. And when there is, it's highly unlikely that everything is going to break.
You are my hero.
This seems like a ridiculous suggestion. This is essentially backwards capitalism, which quite simply, doesn't work. I could create plenty of jobs... I could throw out my business' computers and instead hire a few people to track inventory by hand and place orders by manually counting inventory. Sure, I'd create more jobs, but those jobs would be very short lived, ebcause I'd quickly go out of business. Efficiency, in the long run, *does* produce wealth. That's how capitalism works. We may not see "wealth" growing in the US, but in the economy (which is now a world economy), wealth is most definitely being created. Standards of living are rising exponentially around the globe, even as they slip in the US. Nothing's broken. Nothing to see here. Go back to work.
The main point is that we need to inforce the GPL and out of principle and fairness. It wouldn't be good to crack down on licence violations in cases where we have something to gain and then willingly turn a blind eye to others. We don't want to be seen playing a bait and charge game like what happened with GIF and MP3. We need to be diligent and fair in this manner, find out what source is not being released, and who is holding it back (be it Linksys themselves, or one of their partners), and see to it that they obey the terms of our licence. If we don't, then people will get the impression that we don't care if they violate our license.
Who's this "we"? How's it going to be enforced? Who's paying the attorneys?