I just wish you didn't say this with sincerity, but I have to guess you did. Am I so odd to value another's human life as I value mine? Does empathy take a look in in US english dictionaries?
Take your points in turn: 1)Well, I can read but my military knowledge is limited, agreed. Thanks for the more accurate info. Doesn't change my main points.
2)Iraq is somewhere where people live, just like the area where you and me live. Just people trying to live out their lives. We (the US and the UK (I'm British)) made the area a warzone. We went there and made those people our enemies, not the other way round (notwithstanding 9/11 sensitivities). Our Governments said it was okay to go there and blow the shit out of anything 'suspicious', but did we tell the locals that? Just because Government says it's okay doesn't make it right. Again, the easy way is not always the right way.
3)Frankly, all efforts should be made so women can walk alone at night through central park. Ideals are a good thing, aren't they? Wasn't that a major basis for the 2nd iraq war in the first place? - the ideal of removing a vicious dictator from power? (forget the direct 45 minute WMD threat claims, they've been shown to be untrue (or simply lies)). Is the rejection of certain ideals to reach a 'greater' ideal right? I don't think so, and I think the 'end justifies the means' mentality has lost us many allies around the world, for good reason.
4)(from another point of view). I live in my home country (iraq, USA, UK, wherever). I drive out to my local countryside. I do something (which might appear suspicious to somebody looking at me out of context from several miles away with IR (or whatever) but is possibly innocent or at least not directly threatening anyone). I get blown to kingdom come. My family miss me and declare undying hatred on those who murdered me.
Again, the easy way is often not the right way.
"Repeat after me..." - okay, bow my head, troll tactics to get a response. My bad!
Not convinced, sorry. I agree their activities are suspect but certainly not suspect enough to blow them limb from limb with a 30mm cannon.
Now, can we say 'non-combatants'?;-) No one in their right mind could think the people in the video looked military in any way, they're civilians through and through. Civilians that require re-educating, not simply blowing away. Unforetunately the US doesn't value individual human-life sufficiently to train it's troops correctly.
The easy thing to do was to remove the people from the planet with a cannon. However, this wasn't the right thing to do.
Do americans understand the term, 'non-combatants', I wonder? Heros don't do it the easy way, they do it the right way. And lets face it, US troops always take the easy route.
(btw, the above video is from an apache blowing away some guys who are hanging around a truck. Okay, their activities look suspicious, but jeez, blowing them away with a 30mm cannon??!! Hint for Americans, these guys were 'non-combatants', repeat after me...).
Most insightful comment so far. If the game requires you to do lots of boring shit to get to the fun stuff, then pardon me but, doesn't that make it a pretty shit game?
I've only experience of playing a MUD, but it seems the general principal of the MMOs is similar. I realise the general principal is to advance levels, but however high you get there's always something more to strive for (and there'll always be another character higher than you too). It just seems that paying real money to jump a few rungs on the ladder doesn't actually achieve anything, because the top rung might as well be infinitely far away. If you're not enjoying the 'journey', you're heading for the wrong 'destination'...
There are 4 boxes to use in the defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, ammo. Use in that order. Starting now.
That's all very well, but most people seem to think it's okay to persevere with the last option, whilst only giving lip-service to the first three. If you're american/british and still support the military action in iraq, you should be ashamed.
Okay, they're not out-right banned. But you'd better hope the copper is having a very good day if you're found with one - and I don't mean a knife that you or I would think of as an offensive weapon, a small penknife might be enough. The powers the coppers have with this kind of thing increase a lot in the last few years - all in the name of fighting terrorism.
Hmmmmm, but don't you see? This face recognition stuff is 'modern' and '21st century'. That means it must be great and wonderful and good and the answer to world hunger. It's soooooo much better than old fashioned, inefficient 20th century ways, don't you see????///??
The british public must be sooooo stupid for not seeing this. In fact they're so stooooopid that hey, fuck 'em, who cares what they think??//!!!1111 (They're all terrorists anyway...)
The fact is, because this has something do to with new technology - it'll be rushed through by some shitty private company who really doesn't care about whether it'll acually _work_ in the end, cos they know that the govn'ment will chuck billions of public money at them anyway.
oh, and if you want a rather frightening example of our shiney new police state, read the editorial of the today's sunday telegraph. A man arrested for having a small swiss army knife in his briefcase, no more dangerous than a letter opener (after a random search of his car). I'm afraid that our fucked up police state is real and we're living it, all thanks to Mr. blunkett (and of course, the morons who voted for them in the first place...)
Even if a god did exist, why the fsck should I worship it?.
Cos 'god' implies all-knowing and all-powerful, so it's better to be on their side than not. And if (a) god doesn't exist, then you haven't really lost much (except a bit of effort) by worshipping. So it is actually _logical_ to be religious...
Anyway, if I'm going to worship anything, it's going to be the Sun. The Sun does more for me than any 'god' could.... *ducks thunder-bolt*
Oooo oo oo, just had to spend those mod points, didn't we? Why don't you go look for something positive? It's dickheads like you, that force us to browse at -1 nested.
I'd rather plant sunflowers or corn than drill oil wells
Agreed. Burning biofuel has zero carbon dioxide release net - it would have decomposed anyway and we're just harnessing the energy released. Burning fossil fuels on the other hand releases CO2 locked up ages ago and so is fucking things up.
Anyway it's all a bit irrelevant from an environmental point of view. We might as well accept that _all_ the fossil fuels reserves will be burnt sooner or later. Only when the reserves get low will prices get pushed up enough that we seriously take up the alternatives.
It's fact that atmospheric co2 has sky-rocketted since the industrial rev. We not going to stop it by burning less fossil fuels - it's just not going to happen (there's too many countries in the world that don't give a flying fuck. *cough*US*cough*). Instead our concerns should be:- So what the co2 is going up? - Does it matter? (ie. is it really going to cause greenhouse effect, etc.), and second; What will be the consequences of the greenhouse effect, what timescale will these changes be, and wtf are we going to do when it happens?
I think that's fair enough - if you don't like the rule don't use the locker room. That's no reason to extend the rule to general public spaces though.
When I first read your post I thought you were referring to someone like me, who's paranoid about legislation being brought into force because of the paranoid idiots this article is about!
I think my paranoia about ill thought-out and prejudiced legislation in Britain is well justified:)
It's your choice to work there though - If you don't like it, either don't take your phone to work or quit. But being forced to leave your phone at home is a different matter entirely and would be a gross infringement on personal liberty. Of course, it's just the kind of thing we can expect from blair's britain.
But you weren't forced not to play apart from the factors under your control. Any normal person would have chucked the dishes in the bin and shot the cat. It's a different matter when the only reason you're waiting is because the guys you bought the game from have messed up.
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"Apparently not enough yet."
I just wish you didn't say this with sincerity, but I have to guess you did. Am I so odd to value another's human life as I value mine? Does empathy take a look in in US english dictionaries?
Take your points in turn:
1)Well, I can read but my military knowledge is limited, agreed. Thanks for the more accurate info. Doesn't change my main points.
2)Iraq is somewhere where people live, just like the area where you and me live. Just people trying to live out their lives. We (the US and the UK (I'm British)) made the area a warzone. We went there and made those people our enemies, not the other way round (notwithstanding 9/11 sensitivities). Our Governments said it was okay to go there and blow the shit out of anything 'suspicious', but did we tell the locals that? Just because Government says it's okay doesn't make it right. Again, the easy way is not always the right way.
3)Frankly, all efforts should be made so women can walk alone at night through central park. Ideals are a good thing, aren't they? Wasn't that a major basis for the 2nd iraq war in the first place? - the ideal of removing a vicious dictator from power? (forget the direct 45 minute WMD threat claims, they've been shown to be untrue (or simply lies)). Is the rejection of certain ideals to reach a 'greater' ideal right? I don't think so, and I think the 'end justifies the means' mentality has lost us many allies around the world, for good reason.
4)(from another point of view). I live in my home country (iraq, USA, UK, wherever). I drive out to my local countryside. I do something (which might appear suspicious to somebody looking at me out of context from several miles away with IR (or whatever) but is possibly innocent or at least not directly threatening anyone). I get blown to kingdom come. My family miss me and declare undying hatred on those who murdered me.
Again, the easy way is often not the right way.
"Repeat after me..." - okay, bow my head, troll tactics to get a response. My bad!
Not convinced, sorry. I agree their activities are suspect but certainly not suspect enough to blow them limb from limb with a 30mm cannon.
;-) No one in their right mind could think the people in the video looked military in any way, they're civilians through and through. Civilians that require re-educating, not simply blowing away. Unforetunately the US doesn't value individual human-life sufficiently to train it's troops correctly.
Now, can we say 'non-combatants'?
The easy thing to do was to remove the people from the planet with a cannon. However, this wasn't the right thing to do.
Real heros
Do americans understand the term, 'non-combatants', I wonder?
Heros don't do it the easy way, they do it the right way. And lets face it, US troops always take the easy route.
(btw, the above video is from an apache blowing away some guys who are hanging around a truck. Okay, their activities look suspicious, but jeez, blowing them away with a 30mm cannon??!! Hint for Americans, these guys were 'non-combatants', repeat after me...).
Most insightful comment so far. If the game requires you to do lots of boring shit to get to the fun stuff, then pardon me but, doesn't that make it a pretty shit game?
I've only experience of playing a MUD, but it seems the general principal of the MMOs is similar. I realise the general principal is to advance levels, but however high you get there's always something more to strive for (and there'll always be another character higher than you too). It just seems that paying real money to jump a few rungs on the ladder doesn't actually achieve anything, because the top rung might as well be infinitely far away. If you're not enjoying the 'journey', you're heading for the wrong 'destination'...
There are 4 boxes to use in the defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, ammo. Use in that order. Starting now.
That's all very well, but most people seem to think it's okay to persevere with the last option, whilst only giving lip-service to the first three. If you're american/british and still support the military action in iraq, you should be ashamed.
Okay, they're not out-right banned. But you'd better hope the copper is having a very good day if you're found with one - and I don't mean a knife that you or I would think of as an offensive weapon, a small penknife might be enough. The powers the coppers have with this kind of thing increase a lot in the last few years - all in the name of fighting terrorism.
Wrong, you can be arrested if you're found with _any_ kind of knife on you (like even the letter opener type). Terrorist, see?
Hmmmmm, but don't you see? This face recognition stuff is 'modern' and '21st century'. That means it must be great and wonderful and good and the answer to world hunger. It's soooooo much better than old fashioned, inefficient 20th century ways, don't you see????///??
The british public must be sooooo stupid for not seeing this. In fact they're so stooooopid that hey, fuck 'em, who cares what they think??//!!!1111 (They're all terrorists anyway...)
The fact is, because this has something do to with new technology - it'll be rushed through by some shitty private company who really doesn't care about whether it'll acually _work_ in the end, cos they know that the govn'ment will chuck billions of public money at them anyway.
oh, and if you want a rather frightening example of our shiney new police state, read the editorial of the today's sunday telegraph. A man arrested for having a small swiss army knife in his briefcase, no more dangerous than a letter opener (after a random search of his car). I'm afraid that our fucked up police state is real and we're living it, all thanks to Mr. blunkett (and of course, the morons who voted for them in the first place...)
Even if a god did exist, why the fsck should I worship it?.
Cos 'god' implies all-knowing and all-powerful, so it's better to be on their side than not. And if (a) god doesn't exist, then you haven't really lost much (except a bit of effort) by worshipping.
So it is actually _logical_ to be religious...
Anyway, if I'm going to worship anything, it's going to be the Sun. The Sun does more for me than any 'god' could.... *ducks thunder-bolt*
What you mean, are solar towers.
Score:0, Troll
Oooo oo oo, just had to spend those mod points, didn't we? Why don't you go look for something positive?
It's dickheads like you, that force us to browse at -1 nested.
I don't get it. You *read* T&Cs?
;-)
I'd rather plant sunflowers or corn than drill oil wells
Agreed. Burning biofuel has zero carbon dioxide release net - it would have decomposed anyway and we're just harnessing the energy released. Burning fossil fuels on the other hand releases CO2 locked up ages ago and so is fucking things up.
Anyway it's all a bit irrelevant from an environmental point of view. We might as well accept that _all_ the fossil fuels reserves will be burnt sooner or later. Only when the reserves get low will prices get pushed up enough that we seriously take up the alternatives.
It's fact that atmospheric co2 has sky-rocketted since the industrial rev. We not going to stop it by burning less fossil fuels - it's just not going to happen (there's too many countries in the world that don't give a flying fuck. *cough*US*cough*). Instead our concerns should be:- So what the co2 is going up? - Does it matter? (ie. is it really going to cause greenhouse effect, etc.), and second; What will be the consequences of the greenhouse effect, what timescale will these changes be, and wtf are we going to do when it happens?
$apt-get install foobar
There. Was that so difficult?
Lame encodes, it doesn't rip.
AND YOU AREN'T EVEN BANNING REGULAR CAMERAS!!!b ert-20041114.html
http://www.dilbert.com/comics/dilbert/archive/dil
I think that's fair enough - if you don't like the rule don't use the locker room. That's no reason to extend the rule to general public spaces though.
So you think it's wrong to be able to take a photo in public?
You know, it doesn't *actually* take away part of your spirit...
When I first read your post I thought you were referring to someone like me, who's paranoid about legislation being brought into force because of the paranoid idiots this article is about!
:)
I think my paranoia about ill thought-out and prejudiced legislation in Britain is well justified
It's your choice to work there though - If you don't like it, either don't take your phone to work or quit. But being forced to leave your phone at home is a different matter entirely and would be a gross infringement on personal liberty. Of course, it's just the kind of thing we can expect from blair's britain.
... or people that dont want their photos taken.. :)
If you don't want your picture taken, don't go out in public. Easy
But you weren't forced not to play apart from the factors under your control. Any normal person would have chucked the dishes in the bin and shot the cat. It's a different matter when the only reason you're waiting is because the guys you bought the game from have messed up.
The solution, of course, is to stop buying the fucking games.
I think that was exactly the parents point...
Obviously not everyone is finding so easy as you.