I agree here. I prefer the opportunity to browse through the software and pick and choose what I want. I only wish Windows offered this level of choice. But to be fair, I spend a bit of time when I install MS Office on my systems as well. This allows me to choose what I want (or in the case of the paperclip guy- not want). Install time is not an issue for me here. I'd rather get it right on install, then spend the hours afterwords downloading or installing from CD all those apps that (in linux) I had the option to install during the initial install.
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They hail the '3 click' install. Of course that doesn't count the swapping of the cds......but you don't need to install the apps. That what the other cds have on them.
I remember using gobe 1.1.x and I liked how it felt, and handled spreadsheets and the like. Now, 2.0 came out and it had minor support for MS Word and Excel files. That was nice. Not perfect, but nice. I couldn't ante up for 3.0, so I am excited to see how it works on Windows, Linux, and (if I can find an old PII) BeOS. Eh, why not? I am happy with MS Office, but am very open minded to trying other suites.
Gobe has a nice touch. When you open the program up, it gives you this menu, so you can select what type of doc you want to create- word, spreadsheet, presentation and a few others. Nice, compact menu. It loaded hella fast and actually had MS Office beat in the arena of the tabs. This allowed you to have multiple windows open, but encapsulated in the one window. How did you switch between the 2? Easy, with tabs! I think Office XP picked up on it- I know Mozilla did.
I'm geeked for this now....and for the release. I await eagerly. Anyone curious about this...go to gobe for more info.
I am a student of history (I study on my own time, college has to wait, atm). I studied the Roman Republic and Empire, and the conversion from one entity to another. I had always thought that the conversion of the US Republic to the US Empire would be via the economy. He who has the gold makes the rules, right?
But you get me thinking here. Perhaps our evolution has been retarded by the progression of technology. Or hastened. Not sure which way. I mean, if we didn't have technology, we'd still be isolated, right? Else, if we didn't have technology, wouldn't we be less likely to have face to face meetings with the world leaders as we do? I agree that the US is moving to a police state. We fear that cop car behind us, and I know I worry that I have done something horrible every time I pass one and the car pulls out in my direction. That is no way to live. They are here to protect us, not rule us, aren't they? Yet laws have made us all criminals. So first we secure our peoples and subjugate them. Then we expand our military and our borders. What an idea! Then the DMCA could rule others as it does us. And what other road would help that movement? The interent.
I don't want to go backwards, but sometimes I wonder if this technology that we use doesn't hinder us as a species more than it helps.
Actually, recenly I was playing a military game (I think it was world war II based) at an arcade. It was a 360 view helmet that you pulled over your eyes. No matter which way you turned, the view changed accordingly. You couldn't walk, but it was very very cool to play this way.
I spent a ton of $$ on this game. I mean, the boats were landing, and you had to pick off the marines marching up the beach. I would aim at the landing vessels and take out the driver if I could. Course, once in a while an Apache would appear, and then the missle launcher came in handy. I tell you, I spun and spun on that thing, and I am sure I would have been dizzy if I hadn't had that thing over my head.
So, after playing that, my concerns like yours dissappeared. I recommend this type of game! IT is a blast!
Damn it, I thought I was gonna get the books published first! Well, screw this Tolkien guy. Maybe I could write the history of this Hobbit named bilbo that we see in the movie.......I could call it something like 'Hobbit' or something.
How can we know that documentaries 10- 20 years from now will be made like this one. That Hackers will be celebrated in the same level as skaters. Come on. Hacking and the Internet were not the product of some kids playing around in a friends' backyard and huge empty pool- er, mainframe.
According to what Jon writes, skating has been around since the late 70s. I know I used to skate during the 80s rage - when INXS plastered a skateboard on their Album 'kick'. Yet the internet has been around a lot longer- altho in a more immature format than it is now. Not to say it isn't going to hell in a handbasket- because it sure seems to be (I hate pop up ads, spam email and banners that take forever to load when web surfing). If he is referring to the Open Source movement, I don't know, the jury is still out on that one- but I am sure given a few more years, Open Source will be more than equal for the challenge of the Desktop- and it already is for the Server side.
Jon, this is a nice toned down article. Please leave out the Star Wars slam next time. It makes me forget the horror that was Episode 1, and actually has me excited again in the 3rd installment.
In my 'every pc I have needs to triple boot' days, I took a P200, purchased OS/2 Warp 3 and then installed it. I was able to boot, and use it. To get it to work on the network, I had to 'hack' the OS. Luckily the network card was one of the 3 that were supported by the hack. I could get onto the NT network, and map drives. Internet? Nope. So I would download files to one computer and then xfer them to that computer. Within about 3 days it was completely tripped out with UI enhancements, Star Office, Netscape, etc, etc.
I wasn't a big fan of it. I didn't like the CDE like bar it used. Plus, it has 2 versions of DOS on it- one DOS and one OS/2 DOS. The windows 3.1 compatibility package was cool, but I hate windows 3.1. I simply yelled 'gyaaaah!' and closed it....too many GPFs that still haunt my memory.
There is a lot of software out there, and it seemed at the time that there were a lot of linux hackers that also played with OS/2. Warp 3 was worthless without the internet, and unless I spent another $100 on either Warp 3 Connect or Warp 4, I was SOL.
Nah, back to windows, linux, beos, bsd, solaris, and whatever I had then.
I am not a zealot for Open Source Software. I use it when it makes sense, I purchase software when it makes sense. I do admit that I also use software that is not free or Open and do not pay for it.
I think piracy will only end when the software is opened up, and that might be the only reason that Open Sourced Software like Linux will not only survive, but take large strides in the market. As MS and Adobe and others find ways to cut off the rest of the world from their software, those that cannot afford it (which is the majority of computer users, let's face it) will turn to the free alternatives.
Actually, that is funny, your sig. The meaning of gruntle is "To grunt; to grunt repeatedly". So I guess a happy employee should be grunting while at work!:-)
Your whole theory hinges on the fact that everything died out in that extinction- when that is not true. That extinction was a minor one compared to one that occured prior to the Jurassic period. That one wiped out 70% of life on the planet.
I cannot believe a meteor wiped them out. If it did, then why didn't all the frogs go bye bye as well? They are far more fragile than hearty dinosaurs. Yet they survived that thrived.
How can you kill something that has been around as long as there has been aggressive people? Terrorism is a bully in the playground. It is the police officer intimidating the crap out of you by aiming his scanner gun at you while you know you are doing the speed limit. Terrorism is leveling cities and killing all inhabitants in the name of god or pope or allah. Terrorism is running over protestors with a tank.
Please. We won't kill them all. That is why this whole damn thing is a joke. It would be like making everyone stop hating each other. It can't and won't happen.
Well, not to split hairs, but Mohammed lived and died in the 600s. He also taught that they shouldn't fight against others unless the enemy took up arms against them.
We don't know who did Sept 11. The Presidency does, and isn't saying a word on it. Bush wanted to do this 'war' on the Taliban even before Sept 11 (see BBC) and said he would have continued even if bin Laden had been handed over (see BBC, CNN)
Who are we to define what justice is to these people? If bin Laden is guilty, then show the Taliban, and he will be handed over. Prove it in a court of law (which Collen Powell said couldn't be done - see CNN, BBC, ABC, CBS, etc...) Show the world he is guilty. Don't show it that the US is just looking to flex its military muscle for oil and regional gains. Which is what it is doing.
Attack of the Clones? One of the things I loved about the star wars movies as a kid was the cool titles given. Empire Strikes Back. A New Hope. Phantom Menace was pretty good. But Attack of the Clones? Lucas is trying to make me a non sci fi fan, isn't he?
Well, I guess I could live with it, if all the clones were of Natalie Portman:-)
I have done a little nosing around the BBC and CNN, and I found that Bush had been planning to attack this country long before Sept 11. In fact, the goal was to hit them 'before the snows of winter', or rather, by the middle of October. I am sorry I don't have links to theses articles. But the article also stated that Bush was going in there whether Osama surrendered or not.
This war is not about terrorism. Collen Powell himself stated that we didn't have enough evidence to convict Osama in a court of law. What the hell are we doing, then?
I like to call it military masterbation. Think about it. What pulled the economy from the depression of the '30s? WW2. War always helps an economy. So instead of doing this diplomatically, or worse, trying to find out who really did it, why not just squeeze off a few missles and rounds of ammunition, give the boys back home something to build for the good of the nation, and we have a full fledged war engine again. Cold War, welcome back. Just taking the edge off so we can get back to what the Bush's enjoy most: creatin' a little war for oil and money.
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I agree here. I prefer the opportunity to browse through the software and pick and choose what I want. I only wish Windows offered this level of choice. But to be fair, I spend a bit of time when I install MS Office on my systems as well. This allows me to choose what I want (or in the case of the paperclip guy- not want). Install time is not an issue for me here. I'd rather get it right on install, then spend the hours afterwords downloading or installing from CD all those apps that (in linux) I had the option to install during the initial install.
And here I thought they simply didn't store enough for the ice age. I mean, what, 3 melons?
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When you're here on slashdot
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a trolling good time
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They hail the '3 click' install. Of course that doesn't count the swapping of the cds......but you don't need to install the apps. That what the other cds have on them.
I am a student of history (I study on my own time, college has to wait, atm). I studied the Roman Republic and Empire, and the conversion from one entity to another. I had always thought that the conversion of the US Republic to the US Empire would be via the economy. He who has the gold makes the rules, right?
But you get me thinking here. Perhaps our evolution has been retarded by the progression of technology. Or hastened. Not sure which way. I mean, if we didn't have technology, we'd still be isolated, right? Else, if we didn't have technology, wouldn't we be less likely to have face to face meetings with the world leaders as we do?
I agree that the US is moving to a police state. We fear that cop car behind us, and I know I worry that I have done something horrible every time I pass one and the car pulls out in my direction. That is no way to live. They are here to protect us, not rule us, aren't they? Yet laws have made us all criminals.
So first we secure our peoples and subjugate them. Then we expand our military and our borders. What an idea! Then the DMCA could rule others as it does us. And what other road would help that movement? The interent.
I don't want to go backwards, but sometimes I wonder if this technology that we use doesn't hinder us as a species more than it helps.
Damn...
I spent a ton of $$ on this game. I mean, the boats were landing, and you had to pick off the marines marching up the beach. I would aim at the landing vessels and take out the driver if I could. Course, once in a while an Apache would appear, and then the missle launcher came in handy. I tell you, I spun and spun on that thing, and I am sure I would have been dizzy if I hadn't had that thing over my head.
So, after playing that, my concerns like yours dissappeared. I recommend this type of game! IT is a blast!
First sunlight? no
First day on the job? no
First lay? damn I wish
First time Cmdr Taco didn't mispell something? maybe
First post? HELL YEAH!
Damn it, I thought I was gonna get the books published first! Well, screw this Tolkien guy. Maybe I could write the history of this Hobbit named bilbo that we see in the movie.......I could call it something like 'Hobbit' or something.
How can we know that documentaries 10- 20 years from now will be made like this one. That Hackers will be celebrated in the same level as skaters. Come on. Hacking and the Internet were not the product of some kids playing around in a friends' backyard and huge empty pool- er, mainframe.
According to what Jon writes, skating has been around since the late 70s. I know I used to skate during the 80s rage - when INXS plastered a skateboard on their Album 'kick'.
Yet the internet has been around a lot longer- altho in a more immature format than it is now. Not to say it isn't going to hell in a handbasket- because it sure seems to be (I hate pop up ads, spam email and banners that take forever to load when web surfing). If he is referring to the Open Source movement, I don't know, the jury is still out on that one- but I am sure given a few more years, Open Source will be more than equal for the challenge of the Desktop- and it already is for the Server side.
Jon, this is a nice toned down article. Please leave out the Star Wars slam next time. It makes me forget the horror that was Episode 1, and actually has me excited again in the 3rd installment.
In my 'every pc I have needs to triple boot' days, I took a P200, purchased OS/2 Warp 3 and then installed it. I was able to boot, and use it. To get it to work on the network, I had to 'hack' the OS. Luckily the network card was one of the 3 that were supported by the hack. I could get onto the NT network, and map drives. Internet? Nope. So I would download files to one computer and then xfer them to that computer. Within about 3 days it was completely tripped out with UI enhancements, Star Office, Netscape, etc, etc.
I wasn't a big fan of it. I didn't like the CDE like bar it used. Plus, it has 2 versions of DOS on it- one DOS and one OS/2 DOS. The windows 3.1 compatibility package was cool, but I hate windows 3.1. I simply yelled 'gyaaaah!' and closed it....too many GPFs that still haunt my memory.
There is a lot of software out there, and it seemed at the time that there were a lot of linux hackers that also played with OS/2. Warp 3 was worthless without the internet, and unless I spent another $100 on either Warp 3 Connect or Warp 4, I was SOL.
Nah, back to windows, linux, beos, bsd, solaris, and whatever I had then.
I am not a zealot for Open Source Software. I use it when it makes sense, I purchase software when it makes sense. I do admit that I also use software that is not free or Open and do not pay for it.
I think piracy will only end when the software is opened up, and that might be the only reason that Open Sourced Software like Linux will not only survive, but take large strides in the market. As MS and Adobe and others find ways to cut off the rest of the world from their software, those that cannot afford it (which is the majority of computer users, let's face it) will turn to the free alternatives.
Actually, that is funny, your sig. The meaning of gruntle is "To grunt; to grunt repeatedly". So I guess a happy employee should be grunting while at work! :-)
Your whole theory hinges on the fact that everything died out in that extinction- when that is not true. That extinction was a minor one compared to one that occured prior to the Jurassic period. That one wiped out 70% of life on the planet.
I cannot believe a meteor wiped them out. If it did, then why didn't all the frogs go bye bye as well? They are far more fragile than hearty dinosaurs. Yet they survived that thrived.
How can you kill something that has been around as long as there has been aggressive people? Terrorism is a bully in the playground. It is the police officer intimidating the crap out of you by aiming his scanner gun at you while you know you are doing the speed limit. Terrorism is leveling cities and killing all inhabitants in the name of god or pope or allah. Terrorism is running over protestors with a tank.
Please. We won't kill them all. That is why this whole damn thing is a joke. It would be like making everyone stop hating each other. It can't and won't happen.
Well, not to split hairs, but Mohammed lived and died in the 600s. He also taught that they shouldn't fight against others unless the enemy took up arms against them.
We don't know who did Sept 11. The Presidency does, and isn't saying a word on it. Bush wanted to do this 'war' on the Taliban even before Sept 11 (see BBC) and said he would have continued even if bin Laden had been handed over (see BBC, CNN)
Who are we to define what justice is to these people? If bin Laden is guilty, then show the Taliban, and he will be handed over. Prove it in a court of law (which Collen Powell said couldn't be done - see CNN, BBC, ABC, CBS, etc...) Show the world he is guilty. Don't show it that the US is just looking to flex its military muscle for oil and regional gains. Which is what it is doing.
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The more I think about it, the more I agree with you.
Damn. A kid movie isn't the same when you are an adult.
Attack of the Clones? One of the things I loved about the star wars movies as a kid was the cool titles given. Empire Strikes Back. A New Hope. Phantom Menace was pretty good. But Attack of the Clones? Lucas is trying to make me a non sci fi fan, isn't he?
:-)
Well, I guess I could live with it, if all the clones were of Natalie Portman
Why would I want to buy this kit? I don't get it, I mean yay, it has been ported. Now, can we all go home now?
Yeah, the BBC had a story on this as well. Bush wanted to get in this country before the snows of winter fell, or, roughly, mid-October.
Just sad. I am more ashamed to be an american every single damn day....
I have done a little nosing around the BBC and CNN, and I found that Bush had been planning to attack this country long before Sept 11. In fact, the goal was to hit them 'before the snows of winter', or rather, by the middle of October. I am sorry I don't have links to theses articles. But the article also stated that Bush was going in there whether Osama surrendered or not.
This war is not about terrorism. Collen Powell himself stated that we didn't have enough evidence to convict Osama in a court of law. What the hell are we doing, then?
I like to call it military masterbation. Think about it. What pulled the economy from the depression of the '30s? WW2. War always helps an economy. So instead of doing this diplomatically, or worse, trying to find out who really did it, why not just squeeze off a few missles and rounds of ammunition, give the boys back home something to build for the good of the nation, and we have a full fledged war engine again. Cold War, welcome back. Just taking the edge off so we can get back to what the Bush's enjoy most: creatin' a little war for oil and money.
I agree with you. Give this man a +5 interesting, someone out there.
Anyone?