Youâ(TM)re not paying for redundancy at the POP level. You said yourself it seemed like a great deal, indicating price was one of your major drivers. 99.99% of end users donâ(TM)t want to pay what redundancy costs for the small amount of outages, especially now that everyone has a cell device which can handle 10s of Mb/sec as a âfall backâ(TM). If you really need wired redundancy, have a cable company put in a line, and manage that with a router with prioritization. You donâ(TM)t want to pay for that? And thereâ(TM)s why itâ(TM)s down right now.
Sorry, but thereâ(TM)s a point at which ATT, Comcast, etc have to limit their redundancy options to manage costs for the majority of their customers. If youâ(TM)re an outlier in your redundancy needs, pony up to get it, using ATT as one leg of a multi-leg solution.
Heck, itâ(TM)s not hard to set up a cell plan as a hot spot for most devices, so bridge your WiFi to your cell (or your spare cell, since you need redundancy, right? And that cell isnâ(TM)t normally being used, so itâ(TM)s charged and ready when your dies or fails? Seems perfect to use it as a hotspot as a backup option for the few hours or days the carrier is down).
Iâ(TM)ve spent the better part of 3 decades designing redundant systems, and at the end of the day, on a large or small scale, they cost something; end users have to decide if itâ(TM)s worth paying more, and the suppliers have to decide if itâ(TM)s worth losing business as a result of raising their prices to fund the increases. In this case, UVerse is likely âavailable enoughâ(TM) for enough customers that ATT has a business justification to not make things more redundant, and if you have a justification to need them more redundant, you likely have some options to do so, at a cost.
Being old can be useful, I guess, when ancient internet history comes up (yay, I'm a slashdot elder?). Sluggy Freelance was late in 96, and I think Help Desk (ubersoft) was earlier that same year. It's been published continuously although there're a few hiatus periods, so it may or may not count as prepaying sluggy.
I'm one of the community directors at Louisville, Kentucky's community LVL1 Hackerspace. We're a 501(c)3 w/ a focus on education and outreach, and we're not tied or beholden to any specific school, commercial entity or large sponsor. I don't have the time this exact second to answer something this in depth thru the comment system here, but I'd be happy to provide any info I can if you want to reach out to us thru the email addresses or google groups listed at lvl1 dot org. Given our several year history, we've seen a lot of what works and what doesn't as well as ways to speed up involvement and to help explain the results of various compromises over the years.
I don't know your exact budget as it's not detailed but Axis has made quality webcams for >15 years (I've got a 2100 from ~2000 and it's still running fine) and they support ftp uploading. The small M10s are dirt cheap, but work well. Check out http://www.axis.com/products/m... to see. If you want something fancier look at their higher priced offerings with better features. I don't work there, own stock, resell them, etc, but I've had great luck with their cameras for a really long time.
If you don't care to 'win' the fight w/ comcast, then go get a budget ($1/month) VPS running CentOS like from somewhere cheap like Crissic or Ramnode and use it to route your outbound email. It'll cost you less in actual dollars than your time investment in fighting comcast to date at minimum wage or that you'll spend reading the comments on this 'ask me anything' I figure:)
Background: I've professionally administered Unix and Linux machines for >25 years, including various BSDs, Linuxes, Irix, HP-UX, Solaris/SunOS, AIX, etc. I've been certified by several vendors or distributions, including, since 1999, Red Hat (which gives me quite a bit of background on their specific implementations over the years). I don't work for a company doing development of any OS or platform. heck, other than random 401K type aggregate ownership, I don't own stock in any company that cares about this issue at a deep level, to the best of my knowledge:)
Personal Bias about this thread: You pretty much lose all the credibility possible with me when you start of with "I... dislike systemd because... it looks... like a poorly-described, gigantic mess I know nothing about...." (It's the "disliking something you know nothing about" that bugs me). Otherwise, I don't care much about this debate on a personal level. I currently admin boxes using systemd as well as everything else, and nothing about systemd has caused me anywhere near the heartache that it seems people who haven't used it much seem to feel about it.
Seriously, there're thousands of pages of documentation about what it is, how it works, and what most if not all of the design basis decisions are/were. I'll link you to a few of them because hey, you can get to slashdot and post, but you can't seem to use Google;) (tongue in cheeck, of course). There're plenty of folks who DO have great detailed reasons on why they don't like bits and pieces of it, and you should be able to compare them to the various info I'm linking below.
Systemd has tons of upside and tons of downside. Most are pretty well detailed, although many of the gut reactions people seem to have to it are based on a lack of understanding about how it works and what it's compatible with, to wit "I can't use shell scripts for anything at startup anymore!" , "All of my old chkconfig or SysV scripts can't be included at all!", "It kills off syslog!", "The only reason it exists is to make laptops boot faster and in the server world we don't care", etc. Those are easily researched and the actual basis (or lack thereof) pretty easily found.
So, for why the systemd setup looks like it does, you can go back 4.5 years to where the announcement and rationale is described. Speed is part of it, as is device changability, as is double-forking, resource limits, and service state checking and recovery. Yes, it's a load of stuff. Definitely a system-wide approach VS a semi-random collection of various ways to do things all tacked together (which is, frankly, what most Unix and Unixlike systems are, through survival of the fittest).
Google "250-XXXXXXXA asa cisco starttls" and you'll find this is almost certainly an ASA preventing TLS as configured on the device. Since it doesn't want TLS traffic, the config is to just mangle the packets. Well known effect, been around for years (5+). The FW admin needs to correctly deploy fixup, allow TLS or simply not inspect esmtp. Simple fix, documented in Cisco doc 118550, among many other places.
Just buy a dropcam; WiFi, 2 way audio, powered via supplied microUSB cable and wall wart, and even lets you use it as a security camera and such the rest of the time. I don't work for them, etc but I own a couple and they work.
I'm sad to say I'm agreeing with this post, and seeing my UID will also provide some frame of reference. I don't even mind story/ads as long as they're disclosed as such but this is just pathetic.
I have to agree about the lower average UIDs; this is my 'new' account when I wanted to use a nickname people would recognize me by, so I retired my 'old' account. It became a bit amusing once the UIDs got thru the roof!
Rob (And Hemos and ChrisD since they're reading) Thanks so much for all the hard work and effort./. is truly one of the cornerstones of the 'modern' geek internet (and this from a guy who watched the WANK worm stumble across VAX DECNET machines and saw the RTM worm do it's little dance aOL and dealt with "Do Not Spindle" cards *gets out his walker*).
Thanks, Guys. And why isn't there a poll up with options? My choice isn't there!
Maybe Vyatta @ http://www.vyatta.org/ does what you want. I really don't have any idea what that is from the actual post, tho. You need some routing for thousands of users, and can't afford a Cisco UBR. I'm not sure exactly if you wanted to use the UBR for DOCSIS type support for some reason (a la cable modem) but the fact it'll be wireless leads me to believe it won't be. I'm assuming you don't need a lot of physical ports, just something to manage your VLANS, some routed subnets, a bit of BGP, etc. Maybe XORP is what you want, tho @ http://www.xorp.org/ so you may want to look there. IHeck, 'm not even sure if you want to take a server with a bunch of PCIe ports and slam multiport switchable fabric cards in there like the ones DSS @ http://www.dssnetworks.com/v3/gigabit_pcie_6468.asp makes, or do something else. Maybe these links will help, and hopefully there'll be a detailed followup so we can aim at the real target:)
Guess this puts my family in the computer era of 1981 or so. Yup, I'm a geek. It still works. Gave away the TI-99/4a, the C64, and the Original Nintendo, plus the Amiga, the Vic, the TRS80 model 1 and 2s, etc over the years, all working. The C64 is still in use by my boss for giggles for his kids:)
I have a 13 kW for my house and home server room, and it runs everything we own, except the stove and electric dryer shouldn't be on at the same time as the HVAC compressor cycles;P With every light, fridge, TV, PC and ceiling fan in the house on, ceiling fan, and HVAC running, we draw ~7 kW. The extra 'over size' handles the compressor startups and surges. It draws ~100 CF an hour at max, and I ran it for 4 days w/ no issues when Ike came through. Can't recommend a whole house Nat Gas system w/ an automatic transfer switch highly enough. Runs at a pure 60 Hz, keeps my UPSs happy, and auto-runs every week for 7 minutes. $5-7K fully installed usually, saves its own cost in fuel.
*NOTE: I design and build data centers for a for-profit company, so I'm biased, but at least educated *grin**
The entire facility is 12K square feet. The DC portion looks like it's around half of it, unless they meant in the description it's 12K square feet of data center space. If so, that's only 1,500 kW to power both the load *and* the HVAC/support gear, unless they're requiring *both* generators to run w/o any 'N+1' unit, and if they're burying their HVAC towers (BAC was mentioned in the article at 1.5 MW of cooling, or roughly a maximum of 425 tons). At your best, you can get a 60:40 ratio since they're underground and have to exhaust heat. Even assuming they can use outdoor cold air in a heat exchanger setup or geothermal cooling w/ groundwater, they won't break 80:20, just due to UPS inefficiencies and air *movement*. So, 1500 kW *.80 = 1200 kW of power to the load side at peak. That's only 100 watts/ft^2. That's pretty low density, really.
Why do I say that? I'm opening new 'small' data centers at 10,000 square feet of raised floor at a time per room, and we build them out to much higher densities of 150+ watts/ft^2. In a recent design, we're putting in a usable total of ~2 MW of UPS in for 10K square feet, and that means we eat another good chunk of power for the ~600 tons of HVAC that requires to exhaust the heat (3x300 ton chillers and several generators that carry different parts of the load). You can very quickly look at a DC even as 'small' as 10-12K square feet and see 3-4 MW of raw utility power being consumed (at peak load when the place is finished out).
BTW, I don't do this for google's stacks of 'homebrew racks' or Microsoft's blade servers or those research center folks that user Beowulf's or Cray's superdense supercomputer apps; mine are normal production centers full of a mix of customer gear like Dells, and IBM and HP and Cisco and Sun and various SANs. And that stuff is breaking 150-200 watts^ft2 these days when packed into standard cabinets and fully populated.
So, that's a neat idea, but I hope that it's going to bill a pretty penny as it doesn't sound cheap to have built. That said, it LOOKS like a cool place to work, so long as they don't run out of money:)
Second off, if you're worried about URE on X number of disks, what about a single capacitor cooking off on the raid controller? No serious data is stored on a single raid controller system, without good backups or another raid'd system on completely unique hardware. Yes, if you put a lot of disk on one controller and have a failure you have a higher risk of *another* failure. That's why important data doesn't depend on *only* RAID, and why lots of places use mirroring, replication, data shuttling, etc. This isn't new. Most folks that can't afford to rebuild from backups or from a mirror'd remote device also couldn't have used 12TB for anything *but* bulk offline file storage because it's slower than christmas VS a 'real' storage array. Using it for the uber HD DVR? Great. Oh no, you lose X-files's last episodes. This isn't banking data we're talking here.
Buy one of CORAID's 1521 disk shelves w/ their CLN20 front end for $6600 and drop in 15 500 GB SATA drives (they're a whopping $100 each these days) for a quick 7TB of raw storage for ~$8K or ~9K. Need more storage? Go w/ 750GB drives (They're validating the 1 TB raw drives now, but the price isn't worth it, per GB). Want to add storage later? Buy another 1521 and plug it in. Oh, and it's AoE, with less overhead than iSCSI.
I wonder how his car runs, since obviously his whole family buys nothing but Fords and he insists on putting Dodge parts in there. I bet Dodge has gotten real tired of hearing him kvetch about how their perfectly functional air filter for a Dodge Magnum won't go into his Ford Focus without using duct tape, or how when he tried to put the seats from a Caravan into an Astro, it didn't quite fit right, or how even that someone had posted instructions on how install a Dodge factory Radio into his Ford, but when he does, the retractable antenna doesn't work. I mean, pretty soon he'll prolly give up on Dodge parts for his Ford vehicles altogether!!!
Yup. The obvious inference is that Dodge makes the worst cars in the world, since their parts won't fit into a Ford...
I've worked with folks who work at this place for years (No, I don't work there, thanks for playing *grin*) and they do good work. Been in business for several years, host several thousand servers (not just several k v-sites), and actually have people with a clue, a real 24x7 NOC, etc. They're who I recommend to people for ASP stuff.
http://www.maximumasp.com/
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2376 here, yikes, and I did my IBM webmercials back in the Peace Love Linux days. I made the big time!
I'm gonna toddle off to my internet retirement home now ;)
Youâ(TM)re not paying for redundancy at the POP level. You said yourself it seemed like a great deal, indicating price was one of your major drivers. 99.99% of end users donâ(TM)t want to pay what redundancy costs for the small amount of outages, especially now that everyone has a cell device which can handle 10s of Mb/sec as a âfall backâ(TM). If you really need wired redundancy, have a cable company put in a line, and manage that with a router with prioritization. You donâ(TM)t want to pay for that? And thereâ(TM)s why itâ(TM)s down right now.
Sorry, but thereâ(TM)s a point at which ATT, Comcast, etc have to limit their redundancy options to manage costs for the majority of their customers. If youâ(TM)re an outlier in your redundancy needs, pony up to get it, using ATT as one leg of a multi-leg solution.
Heck, itâ(TM)s not hard to set up a cell plan as a hot spot for most devices, so bridge your WiFi to your cell (or your spare cell, since you need redundancy, right? And that cell isnâ(TM)t normally being used, so itâ(TM)s charged and ready when your dies or fails? Seems perfect to use it as a hotspot as a backup option for the few hours or days the carrier is down).
Iâ(TM)ve spent the better part of 3 decades designing redundant systems, and at the end of the day, on a large or small scale, they cost something; end users have to decide if itâ(TM)s worth paying more, and the suppliers have to decide if itâ(TM)s worth losing business as a result of raising their prices to fund the increases. In this case, UVerse is likely âavailable enoughâ(TM) for enough customers that ATT has a business justification to not make things more redundant, and if you have a justification to need them more redundant, you likely have some options to do so, at a cost.
Being old can be useful, I guess, when ancient internet history comes up (yay, I'm a slashdot elder?). Sluggy Freelance was late in 96, and I think Help Desk (ubersoft) was earlier that same year. It's been published continuously although there're a few hiatus periods, so it may or may not count as prepaying sluggy.
It is the way of things. *checks his uid* yeah, /. Has changed, kuro5hin changed, it's part of the gig.
I'm one of the community directors at Louisville, Kentucky's community LVL1 Hackerspace. We're a 501(c)3 w/ a focus on education and outreach, and we're not tied or beholden to any specific school, commercial entity or large sponsor. I don't have the time this exact second to answer something this in depth thru the comment system here, but I'd be happy to provide any info I can if you want to reach out to us thru the email addresses or google groups listed at lvl1 dot org. Given our several year history, we've seen a lot of what works and what doesn't as well as ways to speed up involvement and to help explain the results of various compromises over the years.
Sean McPherson
I don't know your exact budget as it's not detailed but Axis has made quality webcams for >15 years (I've got a 2100 from ~2000 and it's still running fine) and they support ftp uploading. The small M10s are dirt cheap, but work well. Check out http://www.axis.com/products/m... to see. If you want something fancier look at their higher priced offerings with better features. I don't work there, own stock, resell them, etc, but I've had great luck with their cameras for a really long time.
If you don't care to 'win' the fight w/ comcast, then go get a budget ($1/month) VPS running CentOS like from somewhere cheap like Crissic or Ramnode and use it to route your outbound email. It'll cost you less in actual dollars than your time investment in fighting comcast to date at minimum wage or that you'll spend reading the comments on this 'ask me anything' I figure :)
Just an option!
Background: I've professionally administered Unix and Linux machines for >25 years, including various BSDs, Linuxes, Irix, HP-UX, Solaris/SunOS, AIX, etc. I've been certified by several vendors or distributions, including, since 1999, Red Hat (which gives me quite a bit of background on their specific implementations over the years). I don't work for a company doing development of any OS or platform. heck, other than random 401K type aggregate ownership, I don't own stock in any company that cares about this issue at a deep level, to the best of my knowledge :)
Personal Bias about this thread: You pretty much lose all the credibility possible with me when you start of with "I ... dislike systemd because ... it looks ... like a poorly-described, gigantic mess I know nothing about ... ." (It's the "disliking something you know nothing about" that bugs me). Otherwise, I don't care much about this debate on a personal level. I currently admin boxes using systemd as well as everything else, and nothing about systemd has caused me anywhere near the heartache that it seems people who haven't used it much seem to feel about it.
Seriously, there're thousands of pages of documentation about what it is, how it works, and what most if not all of the design basis decisions are/were. I'll link you to a few of them because hey, you can get to slashdot and post, but you can't seem to use Google ;) (tongue in cheeck, of course). There're plenty of folks who DO have great detailed reasons on why they don't like bits and pieces of it, and you should be able to compare them to the various info I'm linking below.
Systemd has tons of upside and tons of downside. Most are pretty well detailed, although many of the gut reactions people seem to have to it are based on a lack of understanding about how it works and what it's compatible with, to wit "I can't use shell scripts for anything at startup anymore!" , "All of my old chkconfig or SysV scripts can't be included at all!", "It kills off syslog!", "The only reason it exists is to make laptops boot faster and in the server world we don't care", etc. Those are easily researched and the actual basis (or lack thereof) pretty easily found.
So, for why the systemd setup looks like it does, you can go back 4.5 years to where the announcement and rationale is described. Speed is part of it, as is device changability, as is double-forking, resource limits, and service state checking and recovery. Yes, it's a load of stuff. Definitely a system-wide approach VS a semi-random collection of various ways to do things all tacked together (which is, frankly, what most Unix and Unixlike systems are, through survival of the fittest).
http://0pointer.de/blog/projec...
http://0pointer.de/blog/projec...
http://0pointer.de/blog/projec...
http://0pointer.de/blog/projec...
http://0pointer.de/blog/projec...
Since RedHat's obviously the largest major proponent and arguably the source of the most production users, here's their documentation:
https://access.redhat.com/docu...
Here's the project page with loads of links about the software and uses cases:
http://www.freedesktop.org/wik...
And of course so many questions have been raised the developers have posted their rebuttals to myths or misunderstandings.
http:/
Google "250-XXXXXXXA asa cisco starttls" and you'll find this is almost certainly an ASA preventing TLS as configured on the device. Since it doesn't want TLS traffic, the config is to just mangle the packets. Well known effect, been around for years (5+). The FW admin needs to correctly deploy fixup, allow TLS or simply not inspect esmtp. Simple fix, documented in Cisco doc 118550, among many other places.
Just buy a dropcam; WiFi, 2 way audio, powered via supplied microUSB cable and wall wart, and even lets you use it as a security camera and such the rest of the time. I don't work for them, etc but I own a couple and they work.
^This. *sigh*
I'm sad to say I'm agreeing with this post, and seeing my UID will also provide some frame of reference. I don't even mind story/ads as long as they're disclosed as such but this is just pathetic.
I have to agree about the lower average UIDs; this is my 'new' account when I wanted to use a nickname people would recognize me by, so I retired my 'old' account. It became a bit amusing once the UIDs got thru the roof!
Rob (And Hemos and ChrisD since they're reading) Thanks so much for all the hard work and effort. /. is truly one of the cornerstones of the 'modern' geek internet (and this from a guy who watched the WANK worm stumble across VAX DECNET machines and saw the RTM worm do it's little dance aOL and dealt with "Do Not Spindle" cards *gets out his walker*).
Thanks, Guys. And why isn't there a poll up with options? My choice isn't there!
They had a simpler jitterbug without the numbers on it: Just a big green OPERATOR button. Found some snaps @ http://www.squidoo.com/SamsungJitterbug http://www.lomist.com/pics/JitterbugOneTouch.jpg It did have a screen, tho, to show the numbers that you'd called to have them enter for you, remotely!
Maybe Vyatta @ http://www.vyatta.org/ does what you want. I really don't have any idea what that is from the actual post, tho. You need some routing for thousands of users, and can't afford a Cisco UBR. I'm not sure exactly if you wanted to use the UBR for DOCSIS type support for some reason (a la cable modem) but the fact it'll be wireless leads me to believe it won't be. I'm assuming you don't need a lot of physical ports, just something to manage your VLANS, some routed subnets, a bit of BGP, etc. Maybe XORP is what you want, tho @ http://www.xorp.org/ so you may want to look there. IHeck, 'm not even sure if you want to take a server with a bunch of PCIe ports and slam multiport switchable fabric cards in there like the ones DSS @ http://www.dssnetworks.com/v3/gigabit_pcie_6468.asp makes, or do something else. Maybe these links will help, and hopefully there'll be a detailed followup so we can aim at the real target :)
Guess this puts my family in the computer era of 1981 or so. Yup, I'm a geek. It still works. Gave away the TI-99/4a, the C64, and the Original Nintendo, plus the Amiga, the Vic, the TRS80 model 1 and 2s, etc over the years, all working. The C64 is still in use by my boss for giggles for his kids :)
I have a 13 kW for my house and home server room, and it runs everything we own, except the stove and electric dryer shouldn't be on at the same time as the HVAC compressor cycles ;P With every light, fridge, TV, PC and ceiling fan in the house on, ceiling fan, and HVAC running, we draw ~7 kW. The extra 'over size' handles the compressor startups and surges. It draws ~100 CF an hour at max, and I ran it for 4 days w/ no issues when Ike came through. Can't recommend a whole house Nat Gas system w/ an automatic transfer switch highly enough. Runs at a pure 60 Hz, keeps my UPSs happy, and auto-runs every week for 7 minutes. $5-7K fully installed usually, saves its own cost in fuel.
*NOTE: I design and build data centers for a for-profit company, so I'm biased, but at least educated *grin**
The entire facility is 12K square feet. The DC portion looks like it's around half of it, unless they meant in the description it's 12K square feet of data center space. If so, that's only 1,500 kW to power both the load *and* the HVAC/support gear, unless they're requiring *both* generators to run w/o any 'N+1' unit, and if they're burying their HVAC towers (BAC was mentioned in the article at 1.5 MW of cooling, or roughly a maximum of 425 tons). At your best, you can get a 60:40 ratio since they're underground and have to exhaust heat. Even assuming they can use outdoor cold air in a heat exchanger setup or geothermal cooling w/ groundwater, they won't break 80:20, just due to UPS inefficiencies and air *movement*. So, 1500 kW * .80 = 1200 kW of power to the load side at peak. That's only 100 watts/ft^2. That's pretty low density, really.
Why do I say that? I'm opening new 'small' data centers at 10,000 square feet of raised floor at a time per room, and we build them out to much higher densities of 150+ watts/ft^2. In a recent design, we're putting in a usable total of ~2 MW of UPS in for 10K square feet, and that means we eat another good chunk of power for the ~600 tons of HVAC that requires to exhaust the heat (3x300 ton chillers and several generators that carry different parts of the load). You can very quickly look at a DC even as 'small' as 10-12K square feet and see 3-4 MW of raw utility power being consumed (at peak load when the place is finished out).
BTW, I don't do this for google's stacks of 'homebrew racks' or Microsoft's blade servers or those research center folks that user Beowulf's or Cray's superdense supercomputer apps; mine are normal production centers full of a mix of customer gear like Dells, and IBM and HP and Cisco and Sun and various SANs. And that stuff is breaking 150-200 watts^ft2 these days when packed into standard cabinets and fully populated.
So, that's a neat idea, but I hope that it's going to bill a pretty penny as it doesn't sound cheap to have built. That said, it LOOKS like a cool place to work, so long as they don't run out of money :)
First off, Isn't this story a year+ old? Sheesh.
Second off, if you're worried about URE on X number of disks, what about a single capacitor cooking off on the raid controller? No serious data is stored on a single raid controller system, without good backups or another raid'd system on completely unique hardware. Yes, if you put a lot of disk on one controller and have a failure you have a higher risk of *another* failure. That's why important data doesn't depend on *only* RAID, and why lots of places use mirroring, replication, data shuttling, etc. This isn't new. Most folks that can't afford to rebuild from backups or from a mirror'd remote device also couldn't have used 12TB for anything *but* bulk offline file storage because it's slower than christmas VS a 'real' storage array. Using it for the uber HD DVR? Great. Oh no, you lose X-files's last episodes. This isn't banking data we're talking here.
Power consumption for SSD's is currently worse than for standard laptop drives.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ssd-hdd-battery,1955.html
Wow, how about bowing down before a cluster of those? Heheh. Mixing the memes, sorry...
Buy one of CORAID's 1521 disk shelves w/ their CLN20 front end for $6600 and drop in 15 500 GB SATA drives (they're a whopping $100 each these days) for a quick 7TB of raw storage for ~$8K or ~9K. Need more storage? Go w/ 750GB drives (They're validating the 1 TB raw drives now, but the price isn't worth it, per GB). Want to add storage later? Buy another 1521 and plug it in. Oh, and it's AoE, with less overhead than iSCSI.
I wonder how his car runs, since obviously his whole family buys nothing but Fords and he insists on putting Dodge parts in there. I bet Dodge has gotten real tired of hearing him kvetch about how their perfectly functional air filter for a Dodge Magnum won't go into his Ford Focus without using duct tape, or how when he tried to put the seats from a Caravan into an Astro, it didn't quite fit right, or how even that someone had posted instructions on how install a Dodge factory Radio into his Ford, but when he does, the retractable antenna doesn't work. I mean, pretty soon he'll prolly give up on Dodge parts for his Ford vehicles altogether!!!
Yup. The obvious inference is that Dodge makes the worst cars in the world, since their parts won't fit into a Ford...
Hell, haven't there been cases where a low slashdot uid has been sold on ebay? WOOT! Really? :)
I've worked with folks who work at this place for years (No, I don't work there, thanks for playing *grin*) and they do good work. Been in business for several years, host several thousand servers (not just several k v-sites), and actually have people with a clue, a real 24x7 NOC, etc. They're who I recommend to people for ASP stuff. http://www.maximumasp.com/