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45-Year-Old Modem Used To Surf the Web

EdIII writes with this awesome snippet from Hack a Day: "'[phreakmonkey] got his hands on a great piece of old tech. It's a 1964 Livermore Data Systems Model A Acoustic Coupler Modem. He recieved it in 1989 and recently decided to see if it would actually work. It took some digging to find a proper D25 adapter and even then the original serial adapter wasn't working because the oscillator depends on the serial voltage. He dials in and connects at 300baud. Then logs into a remote system and fires up lynx to load Wikipedia. Lucky for [phreakmonkey] they managed to decide on a modulation standard in 1962. It's still amazing to see this machine working 45 years later.' Although impractical for surfing the Internet today, there is something truly cool about getting a 45-year old modem to work with modern technology. The question I have, is what is the oldest working piece of equipment fellow Slashdotters have out there? I'm afraid as far back as I can go is a Number Nine Imagine 128 Series 2 Graphics card on a server still in use at my house which only puts me at about 14 years."

622 comments

  1. Just Throw It on the Meme Heap by eldavojohn · · Score: 5, Funny

    My name is Junis, I am posting this from a Commodore64 and my 1964 Livermore Data Systems Model A Acoustic Coupler Modem in Afghanistan after years of oppression underneath the Taliban ...</meme>

    And I suppose the instant I show any signs of lag in World of Warcraft I'll have to listen to my guildmates crack jokes about me using a 1964 Livermore Data Systems Model A Acoustic Coupler Modem ruining the raid.

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    1. Re:Just Throw It on the Meme Heap by Philip+K+Dickhead · · Score: 5, Funny
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    2. Re:Just Throw It on the Meme Heap by Luyseyal · · Score: 2, Funny

      +++

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    3. Re:Just Throw It on the Meme Heap by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

      Afghanistan has no carriers, much less Taliban - they are a land-locked country.

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    4. Re:Just Throw It on the Meme Heap by toejam13 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Actually, there is a software package for Commodore 8-bit systems called GeckOS that includes a TCP/IP stack with serial SLIP support. You could hook a Commodore 8010 acoustic couple modem to your PET and surf at 300 baud.

      Not that you'd want to. But you could.

    5. Re:Just Throw It on the Meme Heap by aztracker1 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Don't knock it, still faster that T-Mobile's edge network. ;)

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    6. Re:Just Throw It on the Meme Heap by 0100010001010011 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      ping -c 5 -p 2B2B2B41544829

      As recently as a few months ago a friend was on the internet with his laptop (running linux) and it was still susceptible to this. After about an hour of fun I remotely patched his modem for him. Those were the days.

      *2B2B2B41544829 = +++ATH0, when the computer replies with the command it is intercepted locally and causes the modem to hang up.

    7. Re:Just Throw It on the Meme Heap by Hes+Nikke · · Score: 4, Informative

      If you watched the video you'd know that this acoustic coupler doesn't support AT commands - or any other kinds of commands. it just converts bits it receives on the serial port into pulses in the tone it generates, and it converts pulses it receives into bits on the serial port.

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    8. Re:Just Throw It on the Meme Heap by Philip+K+Dickhead · · Score: 3, Funny

      C/PM 80! Fortran 70! Stronium 90! Polysorbate 80! or Fight!

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    9. Re:Just Throw It on the Meme Heap by elrous0 · · Score: 1

      They have heroin carriers.

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    10. Re:Just Throw It on the Meme Heap by tverbeek · · Score: 1

      Acoustic-coupler style modems are dialed by pushing the buttons (or actually dialing) on the telephone whose handset is plugged into it.

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    11. Re:Just Throw It on the Meme Heap by idontgno · · Score: 1

      In fact, the modem in the video predates the AT command set by 14 years.

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    12. Re:Just Throw It on the Meme Heap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They must construct additional pylons to get some carriers.

    13. Re:Just Throw It on the Meme Heap by dotgain · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'm sure there's room for a Monty Python skit about self-dialling modems and rich, featured Hayes command sets. (just in case you don't know, it's still around and is still used for example to dial through your cellphone to your mobile IP provider, or send/receive SMS messages. Good to see a standard I learned when I was a kid still around and useful.)

    14. Re:Just Throw It on the Meme Heap by broomer · · Score: 1

      The standard required 1 second of 'no data' before and after the +++, or does that cheap winmodem just extends(extinguish) this standard?

    15. Re:Just Throw It on the Meme Heap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      2b2b2b415448300d

    16. Re:Just Throw It on the Meme Heap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are correct Livermore Data Systems Model A Acoustic Coupler didn't have an AT command set. Hayes didn't create the AT command set until the early 1970's. The first acoustic coupler with an AT command set was Anderson Jacobsen in 1972.

    17. Re:Just Throw It on the Meme Heap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      your are not wrong, I use Swisscom Edge to do remote support via SSH and it is slower than the 1200/75 modem I used to use in the early 80s!

    18. Re:Just Throw It on the Meme Heap by kandela · · Score: 1

      So much for my one-upmanship. /. won't accept Morse code!

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    19. Re:Just Throw It on the Meme Heap by rant64 · · Score: 1

      Also, the telephone set he's using must predate the AT command set by at least 60 years.

    20. Re:Just Throw It on the Meme Heap by clone53421 · · Score: 1

      does that cheap winmodem just extends(extinguish) this standard?

      I think "ignores" is the word you're looking for.

      Sort of reminds me of a certain printer I had to use with its "49 ERROR". It was an unrecoverable error, which meant a 5-minute startup cycle each time. It was also a catch-all error, which meant it could be caused by god-knows-what, including but not limited to someone sneezing. The ACTUAL suggested resolutions to this error given on the manufacturer's website included such gems of wisdom as: print the document from a different application; copy and paste the entire document into a blank document and print; resample the images in the document or try nudging one or more of the images slightly to the right, left, up or down; sacrifice a chicken and perform ancient satanic rituals with its internal organs (ok, not really, but you get the point). I hated that error so much... downsampling all of the images seemed to be the most effective way to get rid of the error. I personally suspected it was either caused by a faulty escaping algorithm that locked up the printer when certain data was sent, or possibly some sort of memory corruption on the printer itself (due to either bad RAM or bad firmware, one or the other).

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    21. Re:Just Throw It on the Meme Heap by shadedream · · Score: 1

      I bet it'd beat out AT&T's 3G network as well ;)

    22. Re:Just Throw It on the Meme Heap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It shouldn't. The Hayes command set included time padding.

    23. Re:Just Throw It on the Meme Heap by lucif3r · · Score: 1

      Thanks, but I throw my garbage out.

    24. Re:Just Throw It on the Meme Heap by pestie · · Score: 1

      The AT command set wasn't really a standard, it was simply everyone's attempt to imitate what Hayes had implemented in their modems. The problem was that they had apparently patented the "guard time" concept, and low-end modem manufacturers attempted to work around the patent so they wouldn't have to license it from Hayes. This Wikipedia article talks about the situation.

    25. Re:Just Throw It on the Meme Heap by Foodie · · Score: 0

      Yeah, but can you imagine how much "gold" and "silver" are in those old electronics?

    26. Re:Just Throw It on the Meme Heap by smitty97 · · Score: 1

      In Soviet Russia, modem dial you!

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    27. Re:Just Throw It on the Meme Heap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ok
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  2. oldest piece of "equipment" by MoreDruid · · Score: 5, Funny

    is just as old as I am... I just needed a long time to know how to work it.

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    1. Re:oldest piece of "equipment" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      I just needed a long time to know how to work it.

      I assume you are referring to that useless "dongle" between your legs?

    2. Re:oldest piece of "equipment" by LordKaT · · Score: 3, Funny

      bing!

    3. Re:oldest piece of "equipment" by vigmeister · · Score: 5, Funny

      Useless until he figured out the protocol for the handshake.

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    4. Re:oldest piece of "equipment" by nizo · · Score: 2, Funny

      dongle

      Most useless dongle ever: you use it to disable your built in copy protection.

    5. Re:oldest piece of "equipment" by sexconker · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The handshake protocol is easy, the peer finding is the tricky part.

    6. Re:oldest piece of "equipment" by ObsessiveMathsFreak · · Score: 4, Funny

      Beware of viruses when making connections to untrusted hosts!

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    7. Re:oldest piece of "equipment" by BarryJacobsen · · Score: 5, Funny

      Beware of viruses when making connections to untrusted hosts!

      Viruses are something that can be dealt with - unintentionally spawning new processes is another matter entirely...

    8. Re:oldest piece of "equipment" by myz24 · · Score: 4, Funny

      As a parent, you're allowed to kill your children. If you do not wait for your children they'll become zombies and if you die, your children will be adopted by someone else. Maybe you should finger the user before making a connection.

      UNIX is full of great metaphors and such....

    9. Re:oldest piece of "equipment" by fbartho · · Score: 1

      Actually... those can be dealt with too!

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    10. Re:oldest piece of "equipment" by tool462 · · Score: 1

      Child process not responding
      (A)bort (R)etry (F)ail ?
      >

    11. Re:oldest piece of "equipment" by sexconker · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Let's just bring this allllllllllll the way around.

      There needs to be a pregnancy test that shows abort retry fail on a positive result. (And nothing on a negative result).

      Abort is obvious
      Retry is the panic stricken OMG NO GOTTA DO ANOTHER TEST
      Fail is accepting your fate and living with the "error"

      Obvious, yet fun.
      Almost as fun as the obvious idea I have for Left 4 Dead. Once the SDK is finally out, someone needs to swap the models.
      Louis = Obama
      Francis = Biden
      Bill = McCain
      Zoey = Palin

      Swapping in audio clips from the campaigns last year would be icing on the cake.

    12. Re:oldest piece of "equipment" by dotgain · · Score: 1

      Seriously, don't ever try to be funny again.

    13. Re:oldest piece of "equipment" by FreonTrip · · Score: 1

      The SDK's out. Go, find and enjoy. :)

    14. Re:oldest piece of "equipment" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Looks like it hit a little close to home for someone.

    15. Re:oldest piece of "equipment" by nick_davison · · Score: 4, Funny

      Forget about fingering, they won't even let me sniff their ports.

    16. Re:oldest piece of "equipment" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Add in IT geeks personal column: Dweeb seeks geek for low level interfacing.

    17. Re:oldest piece of "equipment" by Idiomatick · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That is the greatest post I have ever read on /. since I started lurking a few years ago. Thank you.

      PS: My GF says she hopes you are getting laid.

    18. Re:oldest piece of "equipment" by myz24 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Indeed I once was. I have successfully spawned two new processes. However, these new processes consume a lot of resources and we worry that spawning any more might cause the kernel (bank) to OOM (out of money) kill us.

    19. Re:oldest piece of "equipment" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      who ; wish
      find || locate
      man gawk | grep -i blonde | join
      uname ; talk nice
      if type && accept ; do date ; else cancel ; fi
      cd ~
      wine || time || wait
      touch
      while unzip ; finger && curl
      strip ; view
      head
      latex
      mount ; top
      fsck
      yes
      more
      shift
      fsck
      yes
      more
      yes ; yes
      size && uptime
      gifasm
      less
      unexpand && resize
      umount && extcheck
      make clean && tidy
      zip
      ssh sleep
      if uniq ; do perl && ruby ; mv ; else exit ; fi

    20. Re:oldest piece of "equipment" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      luckily the internet is full of honey pots to port scan

    21. Re:oldest piece of "equipment" by ktorn · · Score: 1

      If you turn promiscuous you can even sniff others' ports while they're at it.

  3. Oldest Working? by mgbastard · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I don't really use it anymore, but I have a TRS-80 Model IV and it works. I haven't used the modem in a long time. That's only about 26 years old though. The PowerBook 165c also works, and that's from 1993, making it 16 years old. Bonus for the SCSI ethernet adapter.

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    1. Re:Oldest Working? by Lumpy · · Score: 3, Funny

      TRS-80 Model 1 still in it's box with all documents and packaging.

      No I haven't kept it that long, I found it as NOS in a tiny town rat-shack 10 years ago. bought it for $10.00 and a 6 pack of beer.

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    2. Re:Oldest Working? by gid · · Score: 1

      Oldest machine I have is an Amiga 600 bought circa 1992? when I was in HS. Still worked when I last fired it up maybe 3-4 years ago.

    3. Re:Oldest Working? by OwnedByTwoCats · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Apple //e with 4-digit serial number, purchased February 1983, still in my attic. I haven't fired it up in years, and I might, this weekend. Mac Plus from 1986.

    4. Re:Oldest Working? by monkeyboythom · · Score: 1

      Commodore Vic-20 from 1983 and the plug-in modem cartridge.

      I don't use it for the Internet; it is used for home security and light system.

    5. Re:Oldest Working? by JBdH · · Score: 1

      I've an 1984 Apple //c in my basement. I fired it up last month. Needless to say it was instant on ( without ProDos, though). On a sidenote : Did you know there still is a reference to ProDos compatibility in the netatalk (AppleTalk protocol for Unix) documentation? A true blast from the past.

    6. Re:Oldest Working? by zip_000 · · Score: 1

      I've got a TRS-80 Color Computer 2...about 25 years old...in the original box with all of the accompanying papers and the book.

      It doesn't work though...or at least I couldn't get it to work.

    7. Re:Oldest Working? by rev_g33k_101 · · Score: 1

      I have a Tandy Color Computer 2 and the tape drive for it, so you could save the programs you coded.

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    8. Re:Oldest Working? by Sponge+Bath · · Score: 4, Funny

      I have an abacus that's really old.
      Unfortunately, I can't find the system disks to boot it up :-(

    9. Re:Oldest Working? by SpinyNorman · · Score: 1

      Too bad that most of the kiddies here probably don't even know what a teletype was!

      The ASR33 was certainly a classic!

      My first home computer was similar vintage/capability to your AIM-65 - it was a NASCOM-1 (Z-80) kit I assembled in 1978.

    10. Re:Oldest Working? by Nichole_knc · · Score: 1

      I have a TRS-80 16K Level II, still runs, loads by cassette. Amiga 500 from 1986 and an Amiga 2500 with over 500 disk loads of software, kernel manuals, several Amiga magazines with software. Many are Fred Fish Originals downloads years ago... Also Have many 'betas' made on the Amiga years ago of software in use today.. Amiga - The OS and computer that should have been and yes they both still work and are used by me at least a couple of times a month... Soundtracker Rocks...

    11. Re:Oldest Working? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My TRS-80 Model 100 Laptop still works. I even have the cable for the 300 baud modem. The docking station still works too. Used to use it on FidoNET.

    12. Re:Oldest Working? by gbear711 · · Score: 1

      I have one of those (TRS-80) and an Amstrad PPC640, both still work. The Amstrad is a "laptop" about 2 1/2 feet long. The floppy disk for the TRS is 8 inch. Ahh the old slow days.

    13. Re:Oldest Working? by Telecommando · · Score: 1

      An engineer from the UK I worked with in the late 80's had a NASCOM-1 he hung on the wall of his office. It was well built and he assured us it still worked but since the video wasn't compatible with US standards, we had to take his word for it.

      The AIM-65 was my 3rd computer. My first was a wire-wrapped RCA1802 based on a design from Popular Electronics. I managed to fit the whole thing in an 8x5x3.5" bakelite box including front panel, LEDs and four D-cell batteries for power. My second was an Infinite UC1800. Good luck trying to find any info on that rare beastie. Basically it was a single board computer with a 72 pin expansion connector and three optional boards for control, display (hex led modules) and a hex keyboard. Opcodes were typed into the 16 key keyboard and the 'enter' key was on the control board. I built a memory-mapped video display for it using a MATROX 3216 (32x16 character) video board, rewired an surplus keyboard for ASCII and used it as a terminal for a while before moving on to something better. Good times.

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    14. Re:Oldest Working? by SpinyNorman · · Score: 1

      I vaguely remember one RCA1802 board that may be the PE one your talking about - it had a plastic "bubble" covering the CPU, which I think was to protect it since it was CMOS. There was a video board/processor for it too as I recall.

      I've certainly never heard of the UC1800!

      Yeah - good times - the challenge of accomplishing anything with such meagre resources was always fun, as well as being so intimately familiar with the hardware as you needed to be.

    15. Re:Oldest Working? by Skater · · Score: 1

      I have an old Hayes Smartmodem 1200 around here somewhere. I don't plug it in very often, but it worked last time I tried it.

      We used to have two working PCjrs. Unfortunately they disappeared a couple years back - my brother and I each thought the other had them. I think my dad threw them away when he was moving... then saved the PCjr monitor for some bizarre reason.

    16. Re:Oldest Working? by adavies42 · · Score: 1

      there's a mac plus in my parent's basement, complete with imagewriter ii, pre-scsi HD20, external second 800kB floppy drive, and 14.4k hayes modem, all in working condition last time it was unboxed and powered up (about five years ago, iirc). ah, word 4.0 and dungeon of doom, those were the days....

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    17. Re:Oldest Working? by R.Morton · · Score: 1

      My oldest working computer(s) are:

      1. Color Computer 3 with cart modem
      2. Commodore 128D with 300 BPS modem
      3. Atari 800XL 300 BPS modem

      Have not used them in years but if I could afford it I would log in to some of the BBS's I have seen listed in California by users there that like the nostalgia factor.

      R.Morton

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    18. Re:Oldest Working? by mathman47 · · Score: 1

      I also have a TRS-80 Model I, but all tricked out, with cassette recorder, real floppy disk, modem, extra memory, and an Epson dot-matrix printer with a chip replaced so it has U/L case and descenders. And I bought it new in 1979, 80? Please tell me when. I recently threw out the magazines (all issues) that was devoted just to that machine. Now I'm learning basic for micros all over again.

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    19. Re:Oldest Working? by digitalchinky · · Score: 1

      I wasn't wealthy enough for the heady delights of an Apple IIe or a Vic20, I had to make do with a Mattel Aquarius computer. (Purchased in 1983) It still works, but it's still as useless today as it was in 1983.

    20. Re:Oldest Working? by himself · · Score: 1

      My dad does international shipping and so needs to send messages to places other than the First World, and he uses a Telex machine regularly. Also, he has a PC for typing up faxes sometimes, but he prefers his bulky IBM Selectric typewriter for everyday use. My brother works for him and has his own Selectric, but he uses the PC a little more.

      They are hoarding the ball-heads for the typewriter, since you have to swap them in when you want to change fonts. Sweet!

    21. Re:Oldest Working? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've got a working Anita 1011 electronic desktop calculator, which was produced in 1969. Actually, it was working two years ago but I lost the power lead when I moved house. Whoops!

  4. My hammer. by Polarina · · Score: 5, Funny

    My hammer was made in 1876.

    1. Re:My hammer. by The+Archon+V2.0 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      My hammer was made in 1876.

      But your grandfather replaced the handle and your father replaced the head, right?:)

    2. Re:My hammer. by interkin3tic · · Score: 5, Funny

      Unimpressive, all of you. Most of the atoms in my computer are like, billions of years old.

    3. Re:My hammer. by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I got iron padlock with key that was made in the 1860s.

    4. Re:My hammer. by eleuthero · · Score: 1

      whoever was in charge of quality control at the various businesses back in the late eighteen hundreds seems to have done a good job--either that or there was just a bubble of really bad work ethic on either side of that part century. I have seen countless museums with period material--very few shortly thereafter or before. I can understand the before part--Civil War left a lot destroyed even where there weren't battles. The after part is a bit harder for me to catch

    5. Re:My hammer. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      For those not familiar, the parent is referencing the Ship of Theseus paradox which is an interesting read.

    6. Re:My hammer. by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

      And they still work! Amazing technology. Take that, PCChips!

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    7. Re:My hammer. by hesaigo999ca · · Score: 2, Funny

      Dude, dont post about your incestuous family affairs,
      whatever turns your crank, just don't post it here...mmmK! O_O

    8. Re:My hammer. by eln · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I think a lot of things in those days were built without a really good understanding of engineering, so things were typically over-engineered. Things were built far stronger than they needed to be because people didn't have a good understanding of the strengths of the materials they were using or of the physics being employed in their designs. Likewise, without a lot of advanced chemical and metallurgical expertise, they weren't able to create materials specifically to meet the demands of the job like we can today.

      The result is they had things that were much stronger, but took a lot longer and cost a lot more to make. Now, we have things that are designed specifically to try and hit the sweet spot between durability and cost, and that can be efficiently mass produced. As a result, our stuff doesn't last as long, but we can afford to buy a whole lot more stuff.

    9. Re:My hammer. by Abreu · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "This, milord, is my family's axe. We have owned it for almost nine hundred years, see. Of course, sometimes it needed a new blade. And sometimes it has required a new handle, new designs on the metalwork, a little refreshing of the ornamentation . . . but is this not the nine hundred-year-old axe of my family? And because it has changed gently over time, it is still a pretty good axe, y'know. Pretty good."- Low King Rhys Rhysson

      The Fifth Elephant, by Terry Pratchett

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    10. Re:My hammer. by OwnedByTwoCats · · Score: 1

      Drill Press and Lathe from 1938. I've replaced the belts, but the rest of the parts (motors, bearings) are all original, and still work (except for the return spring on the drill press). I turned a bowl on that lathe earlier this year.

    11. Re:My hammer. by bedonnant · · Score: 1

      i actually retrieved my great-grand-father's work hammer (he was a smith). 1876 sounds about right for it.

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    12. Re:My hammer. by risk+one · · Score: 4, Insightful

      And I bet it still interfaces flawlessly with your modern computer. Today's engineers could learn from that.

    13. Re:My hammer. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      dont forget about planned obsolesence... you cant sell the new version if the old version lasts forever

    14. Re:My hammer. by bitt3n · · Score: 5, Funny

      Now, we have things that are designed specifically to try and hit the sweet spot between durability and cost

      by that definition, my walmart deck lounger is the most precisely engineered piece of equipment in the history of mankind. Whenever I sit down, I feel like it's half a hamburger away from catastrophic failure. (that's one croissant in metric units)

    15. Re:My hammer. by Sir+Holo · · Score: 1

      I think a lot of things in those days were built without a really good understanding of engineering, so things were typically over-engineered.

      You are assuming a continually accelerating technology curve. But, once a given technology matures to a state of small incremental improvements (for example, your hammer), then it becomes more economical to buy products designed for durability.

      We're some ways off from that with microelectronic devices, but this sector maturity is not as far off as you might think...

    16. Re:My hammer. by newcastlejon · · Score: 2, Insightful

      This might be the case if you're talking a hundred or so years back, but today I think its because designers have to build down to a price point rather than up to a standard. I used to have a stapler at work (better than a red swingline) that had "Government Property, 1949" stamped on the bottom. Truly, it was a well-made stapler, solid and (obviously) built to last. When I hit that thing, it felt almost as good as getting out the rubber stamp.

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    17. Re:My hammer. by Rude+Turnip · · Score: 3, Insightful

      A shallow materialist will laugh at the "900" year old axe. Meanwhile, the deeper meaning is that someone has a connection to 900 years of family history and tradition.

    18. Re:My hammer. by jandrese · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Are you sure it wasn't just the especially overengineered stuff that tended to survive and the other 99% of the stuff broke down and was thrown away over the years, just like today? I'll maybe grant you that back in the day people tended to overengineer more because they were very close to the finished product and wanted it to have that little something extra, but my guess is that most of the stuff from back then is just as crappy as most of the stuff is today.

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    19. Re:My hammer. by newcastlejon · · Score: 3, Funny

      (that's one croissant in metric units)

      What's that in wafer thin mints?

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    20. Re:My hammer. by Abcd1234 · · Score: 1

      I think a lot of things in those days were built without a really good understanding of engineering, so things were typically over-engineered.

      Two words: Survivorship Bias

    21. Re:My hammer. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      caveat emptor

    22. Re:My hammer. by Runaway1956 · · Score: 1

      I don't think I can match that, but I have a sliderule somewhere in the attic thats at least 40 years old. Great little computer, and surprisingly fast once you get used to it.

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    23. Re:My hammer. by Jimmy_B · · Score: 1

      Now, we have things that are designed specifically to try and hit the sweet spot between durability and cost

      by that definition, my walmart deck lounger is the most precisely engineered piece of equipment in the history of mankind. Whenever I sit down, I feel like it's half a hamburger away from catastrophic failure. (that's one croissant in metric units)

      And it *is* precisely engineered. There's always a tradeoff between cost and durability, and shopping at Walmart means strongly favoring low cost. It's as sturdy as possible for its price; the problem is that you didn't pay enough.

    24. Re:My hammer. by ArsonSmith · · Score: 1

      It comes from intelligence in the design about 6000 years ago. I'm sure they'll still be functioning as atoms in another 6000 years. Or at least until the end of 2012.

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    25. Re:My hammer. by Intron · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I would read it, but I haven't felt the same since my brain transplant.

      I recently read about some Buddhists who were turned down on historical status for their temple which has been torn down and rebuilt several times. They claimed that the materials that make the structure of the temple may be transient, but that the space enclosed is the important element and is therefore very old.

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    26. Re:My hammer. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I bet your windows always crash because so old hammers aren't supported.

    27. Re:My hammer. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That is not true. Things were made at random. Those that were underengineered have disappeared without a trace, so there is no evidence of their existence. Those that were overengineered are still here, leading some to believe everything make 500 years ago was overdesigned.

      I still use (on occasion) a Toshiba 2105, a speedy 25MHz 486 laptop with a PCMCIA Ethernet card, a 200MB hard drive (was upgraded) and 12MB of RAM. Pretty neat. Of course, it runs Linux. I use it to check Perl scripts at home.

    28. Re:My hammer. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm pretty sure my Dell isn't intelligently designed..

    29. Re:My hammer. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Now, we have things that are designed specifically to try and hit the sweet spot between durability and cost

      by that definition, my walmart deck lounger is the most precisely engineered piece of equipment in the history of mankind. Whenever I sit down, I feel like it's half a hamburger away from catastrophic failure. (that's one croissant in metric units)

      LMAO

    30. Re:My hammer. by owlstead · · Score: 1

      Mine too, but I know some people with computers that use brand new atoms. They use a terrible amount of power per atom though.

    31. Re:My hammer. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Same thing was done with a lot of bridges.

      I think it is the Washington bridge in New York where they figured out they could remove a bunch of cross beams and other stuff while it would be perfectly stable still.

    32. Re:My hammer. by dotgain · · Score: 1

      Those that were underengineered have disappeared without a trace, so there is no evidence of their existence.

      I'm not usually the type to go all 'Citation needed', but dude, what?

    33. Re:My hammer. by dotgain · · Score: 1

      Similar story with the pylons of the Sydney Harbour Bridge

    34. Re:My hammer. by Der+PC · · Score: 1

      What you really meant to say is:

      Today we have the skill and the know-how to make crap look like it will last, worth the hefty pricetag and novel enough that you must have it.

      Of course said crap will rarely last much longer than the warranty period...

      My Vadem Clio C-1050 built in 1999 is still used on a daily basis. Still the original LiIon battery, and still works like a champ.

      My Commodore Amigas, built in the '87 (A500), and '92 (A600, A1200) still get regular use.

      My Sinclair ZX81 (1981, 1KB RAM, 16KB Expansion) is fired up about twice a year.

      My oldest laptop is the Nec PC-8201A, which still does several days on four AA-cells.

      They just don't make them like they used to, that's for sure :-)

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    35. Re:My hammer. by alcmaeon · · Score: 1

      Actually, I think 1.5 billion low-wage Chinese are the reason we can afford to buy a whole lot more stuff.

    36. Re:My hammer. by Calindae · · Score: 1

      Touché!

    37. Re:My hammer. by Dirtside · · Score: 1

      There's a simpler explanation, which Abcd1234 linked to below (survivorship bias), but in a nutshell, for those who don't want to wade through the Wikipedia entry:

      The reason that it seems that they don't make 'em like they used to, is that you're only seeing the ones made 100 years ago that survived. A huge percentage of what was made 100 years ago fell apart, or was thrown away or recycled, some time in the past, but because you don't see those (...because they're gone), you ignore them.

      It's the exactly same fallacy every time someone complains that movies/TV/books/comics/music aren't as good as they used to be; those people always forget that there were thousands of shitty movies released in the 1970s, alongside all those great classics, but the shitty movies have mostly been forgotten (because they were shitty, so nobody talks about them). (This is not to claim that there is no variability in overall quality of cultural output; I would contend that overall there were, numerically (but possibly not proportionally), more excellent films released in the 1970s than in the 1950s, but the point is usually taken to the extreme).

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    38. Re:My hammer. by ross.w · · Score: 1

      My computer is a bit like that...

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    39. Re:My hammer. by master_p · · Score: 1

      If you replace everything in a machine, it's a brand new machine. I don't see any paradox.

    40. Re:My hammer. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My bread knife was made in the early 20th century somewhere in Illinois. It cuts bread better than any other knife I've used. With on maintenance whatsoever.

    41. Re:My hammer. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've got *two* rubber stamps. One is an official work stamp for stamping 'Not Controlled' on documents (and people's foreheads when appropriate...). The other came out of a 'penny falls' type machine and stamps a picture of a chicken. Bet you're green with envy now.

    42. Re:My hammer. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah... like any Apple product with a battery in it.

    43. Re:My hammer. by DRACO- · · Score: 1

      Run before he explodes!

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    44. Re:My hammer. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This may or may not be the case. I've seen many examples of things being way over built from days gone by because they simply didn't know what they could get away with or did not want it to break down. 2 examples of this. The machinery used for vulcanizing rubber for tires, which a lot was built during WWII, was considered so important to the war effort that much of it is still in use today because they were so far over built. About the only maintenance that needs to be done is bearing rebuilds.(History Channel) Another good example is in modern boat construction. If you look at a fiberglass boat from the 60's and 70's the hulls are far thicker than what is used today simply because they didn't know what they could get away with.

    45. Re:My hammer. by Mindcontrolled · · Score: 1

      And it *is* precisely engineered. There's always a tradeoff between cost and durability, and shopping at Walmart means strongly favoring low cost. It's as sturdy as possible for its price; the problem is that you didn't pay enough.

      Ah... the glory of the free market in combination with technological progress: The ability to engineer to exactly that sweet level of crappiness that will just barely be tolerated by the customer.

      You are most certainly right that this is more efficient in economical terms, but at times I mourn the loss of good old overengineering.

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    46. Re:My hammer. by Mindcontrolled · · Score: 1

      Slide rules do indeed rock. My father taught me how to work them after he repeatedly outclassed me in slide rule vs. pocket calculator fights. I have become a regular collector now - got a 40 cm long monstrosity with more functions than I could possibly ever need right on my desk at work.

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    47. Re:My hammer. by squoozer · · Score: 1

      I can't comment about a 100 year old hammer but the house I'm currently doing up is about 200 years old and after a year of exploring and fixing every square centimetre I can say without a doubt I would take modern material and construction techniques over old ones any day.

      I'm not so sure that the apparent over engineering was because of a lack of understanding of the strength of the materials as it was a lack of reliable material properties. The vast majority of the wood in our house has obviously been used somewhere else first (probably in ships) and it's got cracks and chunks missing all over the place. There are also big lumps of tree with huge knots etc etc. Modern constructional timber isn't defect free but it has to meet strict quality controls so you can calculate it's strength.

      Even the bricks used in our house aren't properly square so they don't stack terribly well and the mortar is lime based so not as strong as cement and more variable during application. Considering the materials they had to work with I think they did a very good job.

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    48. Re:My hammer. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For those not familiar, the parent is referencing the Ship of Theseus paradox which is an interesting read.

      I read somewhere that every cell in the human body regenerates about once every nine years due to atomic drift. Not sure about the truth of that but it begs the question where is your consciousness/soul/memory stored at any one moment in time? is it copied across every newly generated living cell and if a single cell could rebuild your whole brain, would the brain be recreated 'empty' or untrained, i.e. without the physical neuron memory/experience pathways connected properly?

    49. Re:My hammer. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Unimpressive, all of you. Most of the atoms in my computer are like, billions of years old.

      No... they are no more than 6000 years old. I just confirmed it from the guy in building with bells.

  5. Model M Keyboard by Bai+jie · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I still use my old 1984 IBM Model M Keyboard. I will weep when/if that keyboard ever dies.

    1. Re:Model M Keyboard by smooth+wombat · · Score: 1

      I happen to have 2, yes 2, Model M keyboards if you, or anyone else, wants to purchase them from me. The date on the back of both is 06OCT86.

      No, I'm not going to gouge for the price. Something reasonable. You pay actual shipping costs.

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    2. Re:Model M Keyboard by spydabyte · · Score: 2, Funny

      I'll pay $5, as that's what Google says a keyboard is worth. Hell, I'll throw on an extra $5 just for the loud sound effects it makes, just to annoy my coworkers around me.
      Drag it behind a donkey, it'll survive the trip about as well as Indiana Jones surviving a nuclear blast in a refrigerator.

    3. Re:Model M Keyboard by smooth+wombat · · Score: 2, Funny

      Ignore my post. Jumped the gun. While I do have 2 keyboards, they are for IBM terminals and not adaptable for PC use.

      *mumbles something about Alzheimer's creeping in*

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    4. Re:Model M Keyboard by Maximum+Prophet · · Score: 1

      I keep several, although I don't know when they were made. I have some from a PC AT (5 pin DIN connector) and some from a PS/2 (6 pin mini-DIN)

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    5. Re:Model M Keyboard by WMD_88 · · Score: 2, Informative

      IBM copyrighted the design in 1984, but no keyboards are actually that old. Also on the label, you will find a date of manufacture. IBM was including the 1984 copyright on new keyboards well into the 90s.

    6. Re:Model M Keyboard by Twinbee · · Score: 1

      Have you ever used the Amiga 4000 keyboard? That had one of the nicest touch on the keys you can get imo.

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    7. Re:Model M Keyboard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      I'll pay $5, as that's what Google says [google.com] a keyboard is worth.

      Google is old hat - everyone who is anyone uses Wolfram Alpha. Alpha-ing "cost of keyboard" gives a price of $47.87 - although if it has a "market cap" (is that anything like caps lock?) the price skyrockets to $21.2 billion.

      Just be glad you're looking at the cost of a keyboard instead of the actual value - according to Wolfram Alpha, the value of a keyboard is U+2328. Although I'm not sure what that is in US dollars, because "convert U+2328 to US dollars" doesn't seem to give anything helpful.

    8. Re:Model M Keyboard by JoeRandomHacker · · Score: 2, Informative

      Weep away, but you might be able to console yourself with one of these: http://pckeyboards.stores.yahoo.net/cus101usenon.html

    9. Re:Model M Keyboard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ditto, typing this message using that keyboard. Stamped 1990-10-22 on a label, making it. hmm.. 19 years now..
      Also have my 1985 Amstrad CPC GT65 monitor around in working condition (although sold my dear Amstrad).

    10. Re:Model M Keyboard by JeepFanatic · · Score: 1

      I have 4 of them so I'll be good if in the highly unlikely event that one dies. The one I'm currently using on my main PC is about 18 years old.

    11. Re:Model M Keyboard by altek · · Score: 1

      Same here. I actually don't use it daily, but will bust it out and use it for a few weeks at a time when I get the urge. Back in the late nineties I came across a PS/2 one, so I promptly swapped it out for my old AT one. With PS/2 to USB adapters, I'm set :)

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    12. Re:Model M Keyboard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have a TRS-80 model 1 in working condition,
      A Centronics 101A printer in working condition,
      and an oak box acoustic coupler that ran at 134.5 baud.

    13. Re:Model M Keyboard by divide+overflow · · Score: 1

      I still use my old 1984 IBM Model M Keyboard. I will weep when/if that keyboard ever dies.

      I also use a couple of IBM Model M keyboards. I'm typing this using the older one, made on Aug 26, 1987. And I still use one of my pair of US Robotics Dual Standard modems for sending and receiving faxes.

      Good quality PC keyboards are perhaps the least deprecated of computer hardware, possibly followed by large screen monitors. But with the advent of high quality LCD monitors (8bpp or better, possibly with LED backlighting) I think my 21" CRT Sony G520 will soon be headed to the big recycling bin in the sky.

    14. Re:Model M Keyboard by godztempus · · Score: 1

      1993 Model M here. I only got it this year though, but so far it is the best keyboard I have typed on.

    15. Re:Model M Keyboard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      No need to weep. They still make 'em: http://pckeyboards.stores.yahoo.net//

      They can have my model M when they pry it... well, you know.

    16. Re:Model M Keyboard by cdhgee · · Score: 1

      So if you're in Hollywood, it would survive without a scratch if you're in Hollywood, otherwise if you're in the world it wouldn't survive at all, then?

    17. Re:Model M Keyboard by hairyfeet · · Score: 4, Informative

      If anybody wants an old "clacky" keyboard, there really is a really cheap and easy way to get one-Go to your local mom&pop shop. We always have stuff like that around, because we are packrats and never throw anything working out. When I ran low on "claky" keyboards I just went to the other shop down the street and he let me rummage through his keyboard box. I got an old IBM and the Compaq I'm typing this on now for a whole $7.50 for the pair.

      So go and visit your local mom&pop repair shop, it is like old PC junk heaven. Hell I even have some old S3 Virge cards sitting in the drawer here somewhere. Hey, you never know when they may come in handy! But any mom&pop repair shop that has been around for any length of time quickly becomes a "Sanford&Son" junk shop for anything tech related. We just don't have the heart to throw working gear out. Some come on down! It'll be an adventure! Don't suppose I can interest you in some S3 Virge and Matrox PCI cards?

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    18. Re:Model M Keyboard by XNormal · · Score: 2, Informative

      Ignore my post. Jumped the gun. While I do have 2 keyboards, they are for IBM terminals and not adaptable for PC use.

      I assume you mean they cannot be directly plugged in. This is not the same as "adaptable". Depending on the amount of effort you are willing to spend, almost anything/a. is adaptable for use as a PC keboard.

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    19. Re:Model M Keyboard by VisceralLogic · · Score: 5, Funny

      Google is old hat - everyone who is anyone uses Wolfram Alpha. Alpha-ing "cost of keyboard" gives a price of $47.87 - although if it has a "market cap" (is that anything like caps lock?) the price skyrockets to $21.2 billion.

      Just be glad you're looking at the cost of a keyboard instead of the actual value - according to Wolfram Alpha, the value of a keyboard is U+2328. Although I'm not sure what that is in US dollars, because "convert U+2328 to US dollars" doesn't seem to give anything helpful.

      Dude, Alpha is so old school... these days we "bing" things... get with the times!

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    20. Re:Model M Keyboard by kungfugleek · · Score: 1

      On the bright side, if there's ever a flood you can use the thing for a serf board.

    21. Re:Model M Keyboard by WillyWanker · · Score: 1

      Still using my IBM PS/2 keyboard from 1989. I simply cannot fathom using anything else. Windows key be damned!

      I also have an IBM PC/AT circa 1986 around here somewhere, complete with monitor. It's been a long time since I fired it up tho.

      As for non-computer equipment I have a Singer sewing machine from 1964 and an Electrolux vacuum cleaner, also from the 60s, both of which still work flawlessly. Come to think of it I think I still have a 60s clothes iron around here someplace (like I iron clothes BWAHAHAHAHAH!)

    22. Re:Model M Keyboard by ashitaka · · Score: 1

      I have one Model M and two (yes 2) Gateway Omnikey pros. One has the 12 function keys on the left.

      Cold, dead hands, etc.

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    23. Re:Model M Keyboard by z3razerviper · · Score: 1

      Unicomp purchaced IBM's old keyboard business. You can still get brand new "classic" buckling spring IBM keyboards from them. I just ordered the eudorapro hope to get it soon. www.pckeyboard.com

    24. Re:Model M Keyboard by hurfy · · Score: 1

      hmm, i wonder if any of that can be adapted for the parent or myself. I would love to get an old terminal keyboard to work on a PC.

      Back on the main topic....

      The terminals go to a circa 1980 Wang 2200 MVP computer that is still useable as far as i know. I don't have the power (or the nerve) to turn it on at home. The Hard Drive alone is 1950 watts to spin up, added to the other parts needed and it would stretch the old 15 amp circuits a bit much. One of these days tho..... If i spin up the drive and let it settle it will drop down to like 1100 watts giving me enough juice to turn on the CPU,DiskPU, and a terminal. Unfortunately i didn't get to save the 300 baud modem it had hooked up :(

      For some reason we still have the Okidata 2350 printer that went with it...Having a hard time finding 2-COLOR ribbons for a 1980's dot-matrix printer however! Ok, to be fair the red/black ribbon was hard to find new and i only know of the GODAWFUL spreadsheet using it.

      I wrote a multiplayer version of battleship for it, but i don't think it survived altho the rest of the software did.

      After that monster comes a whole collection of PC stuff starting with a mint condition COMPAQ with the original software load. Also a interesting black-market version with the guts of the original but the look of a Compaq II. No names, ID labels, part numbers, or anything inside higher than some chip ID numbers.

      My telephone is also circa 1980 and has hit the ground about 524953 times :)

    25. Re:Model M Keyboard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I use one manufactured in 1989 and that has had just a single-owner.

    26. Re:Model M Keyboard by Geminii · · Score: 1

      You can still get them online. I use one myself, and it's the longest-surviving hardware component of my home system.

    27. Re:Model M Keyboard by dotgain · · Score: 1

      Not myself, but had an A2000 which was great. IMO All Amigas since A500 Rev5 had great keyboards. A600 gets marked down for having a horrible layout, but still nice keys. Early A500s had keyboards so soft it was like typing on tits.

    28. Re:Model M Keyboard by Joce640k · · Score: 1

      Amiga 1000 was better. The horrible ones were the Amiga 500 series.

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    29. Re:Model M Keyboard by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

      I recently got one of their "Linux" layout keyboards. It was a big disappointment. The keys all have molding marks visible on the back sides, and the build quality isn't very good. They're not the same as the original Model Ms. Worst of all, a lot of the keys didn't work when the Shift key was held down. I returned it and got a real Model M on Ebay.

    30. Re:Model M Keyboard by mvdw · · Score: 1

      I personally have a stockpile of 5 or 6 of these, plus another complete set of keycaps. I love my Model M.

    31. Re:Model M Keyboard by brackishboy · · Score: 1

      IIRC AT was electrically identical to PS2, so it should be possible to daisychain adaptors and make it USB compatible.

    32. Re:Model M Keyboard by z3razerviper · · Score: 1

      I have never tried their linux keyboards but have been using an on the stick for years with no issues at all.

    33. Re:Model M Keyboard by Roman+Mamedov · · Score: 1

      Don't suppose I can interest you in some S3 Virge and Matrox PCI cards?

      Heh, you might be saying that as a joke, but the old PCI-based video cards do have a very real use these days: if one's building a GNU/Linux or BSD server box and uses a motherboard with no built-in GPU (for example, this one, based on the AMD 790FX chipset), any old PCI video card with as little as 1 MB of memory will fit the bill perfectly. There is no point in buying a new PCI-Express GPU if all it will ever do, is sit around in text mode, 100% of the time. An old PCI card will be several times cheaper, will never get hot, and of course will consume less electricity too.

    34. Re:Model M Keyboard by FreakyGreenLeaky · · Score: 1

      I'm a bit of an OCD irritable old crank when it comes to keyboards (finally settled on Enermax Aurora - solid aluminium, notebook style keys with scissor tech), so I'm curious, don't you find the horribly deep key-travel (action) on yer model M hinders your style? I mean, jeez, the keys plonk in further than an old harpiscord. Is it similar to the old terminal keyboards connected to an IBM System 36 maindrain?
      .

      Also the size. My God, it's huge. I'm sure you have to park your mouse on the extra desk to your right (or left, depending which way you swing).

    35. Re:Model M Keyboard by Bert64 · · Score: 1

      I still have an A4000 with its original keyboard, also an A3000...

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    36. Re:Model M Keyboard by Twinbee · · Score: 1

      I think they have the same KB don't they? If not, which do you prefer?

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    37. Re:Model M Keyboard by hairyfeet · · Score: 1

      Actually it was partly a joke and partly not. I actually managed to sell an 8Mb Matrox card last year for a whole $7.50. The client's onboard GPU had bought the farm and he needed something to tide him over until he could come by and pick out a decent PCI for this box. He was basically using it for an appliance, running a program which created invoices and another which kept up with a customer's work history.

      When I called him up the next week to find out when he would like to come in and pick out a PCI card he said "Why bother? Windows 2000 seems to like this card, and it works just fine with my programs. Why fix it if it isn't broke?". This is why we repair shop guys tend to be packrats-you just never know when something would come in handy. That old Compaq 1GHz he is running for those two programs didn't have an AGP slot and the only things I had other than the Matrox and the Virge was AGP. That is why I always suggest that the Linux guys, the server guys, and the DIY guys should drop by your local mom&pop shop. BS with the guy a little. You'll find that we have mounds of good working older gear for dirt cheap. We just hate to throw away anything working and just want it to have a good home.

      Graphics cards, motherboard and CPU combos, power supplies, PC100 RAM(both EEC and not), keyboards, monitors, servers, we have it all and we will be happy to sell it to your for cheap. So next time you are driving past your local mom&pop shop, why not stop in and chew the fat? Think of it as a giant IT garage sale. You'll probably find plenty of stuff you can use at rock bottom prices, because we just can't stand throwing working tech away. As your post illustrates SOMEBODY out there has a good use for it. And most of us are happy to let you rummage through the piles.

      As for saving electricity? I am typing this on an old HP Pavilion 1.1GHz Celeron with 512MB of RAM and Win2K Pro. IIRC I paid a whole $50 back in 2001 for it from mom&pop shop. After converting it to "white trash cooling"(leaving the side off) it never gets even warm anymore, with a cheapo 80Gb to go with the original 20Gb I have plenty of space for surfing and even downloading files, and the thing is quiet as a church mouse and barely uses any juice. So by going to a mom&pop shop I got a Nettop for $50 before there was even a word for it. And in 2009 it still works just fine, and can even watch Youtube as long as I don't try to do a bunch of multitasking while the video plays. Not bad for $50 8 years ago, huh?

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    38. Re:Model M Keyboard by Some+Bitch · · Score: 1

      I not only have an S3 Virge in my drawer but it saw action a couple of years ago when a mate accidentally flashed his expensive ATI card with a blank firmware :)

    39. Re:Model M Keyboard by jshackles · · Score: 1

      MOD PARENT DOWN He's using the exact market speak that Microsoft hopes we all adopt. Even if he's doing it in a mocking tone, it's still gonna help that re branded "live" search catch on as a verb!

    40. Re:Model M Keyboard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      if there's ever a flood you can use the thing for a serf board

      No doubt it would come in very handy for beating back the influx of alien-zombie peasants.

    41. Re:Model M Keyboard by squoozer · · Score: 1

      I initially read that as "convert U-238 to US dollars". I'm pretty sure trying that would result in something but I agree it probably wouldn't be anything helpful.

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    42. Re:Model M Keyboard by YourExperiment · · Score: 1

      Dude, Alpha is so old school... these days we "bing" things... get with the times!

      Okay... Bing told me that the price of a keyboard is: "BUY MICROSOFT NATURAL KEYBOARD FROM OUR PARTNERS NOW!"

    43. Re:Model M Keyboard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Model_M_keyboard

      Still made by Unicomp apparently. Also pop up on ebay every now and then -

      http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?satitle=model+m+keyboard

    44. Re:Model M Keyboard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I am typing this on an old HP Pavilion 1.1GHz Celeron with 512MB of RAM and Win2K Pro.

      You decadent pig... mine is a 600MHz with 256MB of RAM and WinXP Pro. Which, I might add, runs just fine as long as I don't try to do too many things at once.

    45. Re:Model M Keyboard by hairyfeet · · Score: 1

      See? That is why you should go to your local mom&pop shop! I just sold an Athlon 1.7GHz + the ASUS mobo it was on (nice little Geforce 2 board) for a whole $30. The guy needed a new mobo for his old 900MHz, I didn't have time to build a box around the Athlon, so now it has a good home. you'd be surprised what you can find in the back room of your average mom&pop shop. We ALWAYS have more boards than we have got time to build, and if you let us know you are a DIYer we are more than happy to hook you up with some of the extra tech we got lying around cheap. We are all just overworked and don't have enough time to use it all, and most folks today scoff at anything under 2.4GHz. I gave away a dual 1GHz Netserver to a Linux guy just a month ago. It was in my way and didn't have an OS and now it'll be a good little fileserver for him.

      So if you go by your local mom&pop, chew the fat a little (we get so tired of talking to Joe clueless) I bet you end up walking out with a nice 1.1-2.0GHz for a little of nothing. Remember we are all just nerds too!

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  6. Teach a lesson by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    45 years old and still works better than half the crap pawned off on consumers today.

    1. Re:Teach a lesson by The+End+Of+Days · · Score: 1

      45 years old, works today only in a quaint "ooh, look at that" manner, and probably cost more than it now does to put gigabit ethernet in 1000 modern computers. There is no value to making technology that lasts so long beyond the curiosity of it.

  7. 2 modems, 4 cans, 2 strings.... by wowbagger · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I've often wanted to dig up 2 acoustic coupled modems, 4 tin cans, and 2 strings, and see if I could get the modems to work over that.

    1. Re:2 modems, 4 cans, 2 strings.... by CookieOfFortune · · Score: 5, Funny

      This is a... I would like to try this.

    2. Re:2 modems, 4 cans, 2 strings.... by Rorschach1 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Try PSK31 (31.25 bps binary phase shift keying mode used for ham radio) with a couple of sound cards. It'll work over open air with a speaker and microphone. If you used two different carrier tones, you could probably do full duplex.

      For my own implementation of PSK31, I once ran it at a carrier of 62.5 hz. Sounded more like war drums than a digital mode over my subwoofer, but it still decoded OK.

    3. Re:2 modems, 4 cans, 2 strings.... by Abreu · · Score: 1

      Maybe if you use some piano wire instead of just string

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    4. Re:2 modems, 4 cans, 2 strings.... by teknopurge · · Score: 5, Funny

      Try PSK31 (31.25 bps binary phase shift keying mode used for ham radio) with a couple of sound cards. It'll work over open air with a speaker and microphone. If you used two different carrier tones, you could probably do full duplex.

      For my own implementation of PSK31, I once ran it at a carrier of 62.5 hz. Sounded more like war drums than a digital mode over my subwoofer, but it still decoded OK.

      sick.....you are all sick.......

    5. Re:2 modems, 4 cans, 2 strings.... by KahabutDieDrake · · Score: 1

      Horribly, appallingly, awesomely sick. Geek projects for the win.

    6. Re:2 modems, 4 cans, 2 strings.... by Tenebrousedge · · Score: 4, Insightful

      These people are hackers. Mostly that means good things.

      Pushing the bounds of technology is one of the most ancient and noble occupations. Many geeks also manage to push the bounds of reason, good taste, and hygiene, but creativity in tool-using is perhaps the defining element of humanity. Certainly the drive to tinker is responsible for the majority of our progress as a species.

      Slashdot is where that impulse goes to die :) Stay tuned for beowulf clusters of linux-running hot grits overlords.

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    7. Re:2 modems, 4 cans, 2 strings.... by ebh · · Score: 1

      Don't forget that ham geekery also tends toward the low end (doing amazing things with nearly nothing) because of hams' association with emergency preparedness.

      Even though my novice license expired in 1985 and I never got around to retaking the test to get it back, I always made sure I never forgot Morse code, one of the original forms of digital communication. Very useful in all sorts of emergencies.

    8. Re:2 modems, 4 cans, 2 strings.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I was just talking with a coworker about doing this a couple weeks ago. Data over Tin Can Phone. It could work!

    9. Re:2 modems, 4 cans, 2 strings.... by phreakmonkey · · Score: 1

      That is a fantastic idea! Now to find another acoustic modem that will run in "Answer" mode. (This one will only do "Originate".)

    10. Re:2 modems, 4 cans, 2 strings.... by commodoresloat · · Score: 2, Funny

      Let's see, 2 modems, 4 cans, 2 strings... how many cups?

    11. Re:2 modems, 4 cans, 2 strings.... by ozbird · · Score: 1

      For my own implementation of PSK31, I once ran it at a carrier of 62.5 hz. Sounded more like war drums than a digital mode over my subwoofer, but it still decoded OK.

      Aha! I knew that couldn't be music. Bloody doof-doof wardrivers...

    12. Re:2 modems, 4 cans, 2 strings.... by noidentity · · Score: 1

      Try PSK31 (31.25 bps binary phase shift keying mode used for ham radio) with a couple of sound cards. It'll work over open air with a speaker and microphone.

      Lossless data over a speaker? I think I hear someone at the RIAA calling the lawyers right about now...

    13. Re:2 modems, 4 cans, 2 strings.... by R2.0 · · Score: 1

      "Don't forget that ham geekery also tends toward the low end (doing amazing things with nearly nothing) because of hams' association with emergency preparedness."

      I always thought it was because they tend to be cheapskates. In a good way.

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    14. Re:2 modems, 4 cans, 2 strings.... by Eythian · · Score: 1

      Phase-shift? Without having actually tried it, I would have expected FSK to work better in actual audio.

    15. Re:2 modems, 4 cans, 2 strings.... by cyclomedia · · Score: 1

      Sod the tin cans, you need light-sensitive transistors a pair of laser pointers...

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      If you don't risk failure you don't risk success.
    16. Re:2 modems, 4 cans, 2 strings.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      US Robotics Couriers have been known to work when connected with barbed wire. No joke.

    17. Re:2 modems, 4 cans, 2 strings.... by CETWeber · · Score: 1

      These people are hackers. Mostly that means good things.

      Dude, my cat is a hacker and his efforts rarely produce good things... just saying. ;)

  8. Atari Baby by Astroturtle · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I have an Atari 400 I still drag out from time to time when I get an itch to play the "definitive" (to me at least!) versions of Pac-Man, Donkey Kong and Defender. Bought as a Xmas present when I was 9 which puts it at 28 years old. :) I also still have my old Apple ][ bought 4 years later with the "CP/M card" and a 300 baud modem. Hmm... I think I'm going to have to some surfing tonight! ;) astroturtle

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    1. Re:Atari Baby by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The only authentic DK is the arcade at Twin Galaxies. Played by ME.

      -Billy Mitchell
      Buy my hawt sauce.

    2. Re:Atari Baby by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I bring out the 1983 Mattel Aquarius with it's 300 baud modem once a decade to try and figure out why I bought it.

      Last time I managed to hack together enough MS Basic to establish a brief Internet connection just for kicks.... but I didn't have any tapes to save the software, so... power off, goodbye.

      They used to call it 'the system for the seventies' for good reason. The thing was a total abortion brand new.

    3. Re:Atari Baby by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The oldest thing I have is either my Amiga 1200 (not really that old compared to some stuff on here) or an old Epson printer (dot matrix, came with a manual detailing the comms protocol it used! (apparently the same protocol still works on most Epsons)) or a Genius mouse (25-pin serial, with Genius paint (for dos IIRC) on a 5.25" disk) or my copy of DBase (III+ or IV, I forget), or finally (and most likely the oldest) a HP 28S scientific graphing calculator (RPN stack ftw).

  9. Does test equipment count? by slaker · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I keep a Hewlitt-Packard oscilloscope out in my car that was manufactured sometime in the mid-50s.
    It still works, but I've only had to use it about three times in my professional life.

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    1. Re:Does test equipment count? by teknopurge · · Score: 1

      The fact you've _had_ to use it 3 times for work scares me in so many different ways....

    2. Re:Does test equipment count? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I used to have a working Dumont "cathode-ray oscillograph" from 1939. Thing was black as the future and weighed close to fifty pounds. The chassis slid out of the case and had enough room for a bottle of vodka and the other stashable items I needed to hide from my parents.

      I had several others (Wall...Of...Squiggly!), but all I currently have is an RCA scope from 1969.

    3. Re:Does test equipment count? by pjabardo · · Score: 1

      Who needs a mid 50's oscilloscope on their car !?!

    4. Re:Does test equipment count? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Funny, i have a Tektronix myself that's in about the same situation, very rarely used, more often played with.

      a few things to check out would be youscope and some of the vector graphics games where you can output from your PC sound card to the oscope in x/y mode.

    5. Re:Does test equipment count? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I keep a Hewlitt-Packard oscilloscope out in my car that was manufactured sometime in the mid-50s.
      It still works, but I've only had to use it about three times in my professional life.

      Why are you carrying it in your car? You could put it on a shelf in the garage for the next 50 years.

    6. Re:Does test equipment count? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I keep a Hewlitt-Packard oscilloscope out in my car that was manufactured sometime in the mid-50s.
      It still works, but I've only had to use it about three times in my professional life.

      You keep a 50 year old scope in your CAR!!! and it still works!? Now there is a testament to the old HP engineering quality. (pre Agilent split) Better yet, open that sucker up and tell us who made the tubes and crt. That is amazing.

    7. Re:Does test equipment count? by FlyingBishop · · Score: 1

      How many times have you used it period?

      Also, how many times have you used it in your professional life, or have you never used it when there might have been a better tool for the job?

    8. Re:Does test equipment count? by kungfugleek · · Score: 1

      Yeah but all 3 times were just to play Pong.

    9. Re:Does test equipment count? by Cedric+Tsui · · Score: 1

      Oscilloscope I can understand. But why is it in your car?

    10. Re:Does test equipment count? by slaker · · Score: 1

      That was kind of my point.
      I've moved it from car to car. It's been in auto accidents.

      The damned thing still works.

      I don't have a garage to keep it in, which is why it stays in the car.

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    11. Re:Does test equipment count? by bshroyer · · Score: 1

      I worked two summers back in the 1980s for a company that did FCC certification. Compaq would ship us their brand-spankin-new luggables and we'd see just how bad they interfered with prohibited bandwidth.

      I spent a lot of time in front of that HP oscilloscope those summers.

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    12. Re:Does test equipment count? by TigerNut · · Score: 1

      I have an HP 204D oscillator and a Tek 500 series modular analog storage oscilloscope - the kind where they use a low-power flood gun in the CRT to keep the image. It does four channels plus triggering, and it's entirely adequate for low-speed signals and automotive testing.

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      Less is more.

    13. Re:Does test equipment count? by nuckfuts · · Score: 1

      The problem I've found with older oscilloscopes is not that they stop working, but are simply too slow for use with modern electronics.

      I bought an entry-level scope back in the 80's that was good for signals up to about 20 MHz IIRC. This was plenty fast compared to a state-of-the-art Intel 80386 running at 16 MHz back then. It wouldn't be much use today where CPU's are clocked in GHz.

    14. Re:Does test equipment count? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have a working Cossor 1049 from, you guessed it, 1949 sitting in my workshop. Purely a novelty piece, and so amazingly heavy I'd think twice before leaving it on my desk for more than a few hours at a time, but it still works.

      I also have a collection of early microbees dating back to 1983 most of which are working. One of these days I'd love to cross-compile myself a browser, find myself a dial-in line and do some old-school surfing.

    15. Re:Does test equipment count? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I keep a Hewlitt-Packard oscilloscope out in my car that was manufactured sometime in the mid-50s.
      It still works, but I've only had to use it about three times in my professional life.

      I've got one too, an early 60's model H02-170A. It had been sitting in a garage forever. I had assumed it was broken for years, but replaced a fuse the other day and it seems to be mostly functional. It's mil spec, 90 lbs, 500 watts, a mixture of tubes and germanium transistors. Cost somewhere around $2800 new, which would be equivalent to (according to an online inflation calculator) nearly $20,000 today. It's still perfectly useful, if a bit inconvenient.

    16. Re:Does test equipment count? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      and yet you drag that boat anchor behind you everywhere you go?

  10. Commadore Amiga 500 by Pvt_Ryan · · Score: 5, Interesting

    :D and I still love starting it up.. Nothing like the grinding of a floppy drive in the morning..

    1. Re:Commadore Amiga 500 by noidentity · · Score: 1

      Commadore Amiga 500

      Is that the knockoff version of the Commodore Amiga 500?

  11. TI-99/4A by royallthefourth · · Score: 1

    16-bit processor and hardware speech synthesis in 1979. It was a real pioneering home computer, and mine still works, too! It even had add-ons for cassette tape, disk drives, printers, and modems.

    1. Re:TI-99/4A by metalix · · Score: 1

      Yes! I have fond memories of programming simple programs in BASIC and storing my hangman dictionary on cassette. The keyboard was a little difficult -- I believe the colon, brackets, other normal punctuation were a special key + normal alphabet key. a picture

    2. Re:TI-99/4A by Avatar8 · · Score: 1
      Yep, I have two of those and both still in good working condition.
      Add the 13" RGB monitor, cassette storage device, speech synthesizer and dozens of cartridges and manuals and I've got a nice little setup. I get it out once in a while to play a few nostalgic games (Tunnels of Doom & Parsec) and help my daughters appreciate how much computers have changed and stayed the same. I learned how to count in hexidecimal (how you programmed graphic tiles) and program in BASIC on that machine a few years before I touched a PC.

      I also have an Atari 800 and an original IBM XT(?) with only floppy disks and a green monochrome monitor. It even has a Sperry wide carriage dot matrix printer with a parallel cable permanently attached to the printer.

    3. Re:TI-99/4A by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

      I had one of those as a kid. It was pioneering in many ways, but it also had a very annoying design flaw where it overheated if left on for more than an hour or two, and would lock up. I always hated that.

  12. Oldest kit? by 99luftballon · · Score: 1

    Well my Sinclair ZX81 still works, just about, around 25 years after we got it. Sadly the 16Kb RAM pack is toast, so there's not much you can do with it.

    1. Re:Oldest kit? by sbeckstead · · Score: 1

      I have one of these. The TS1000 variety though, it's wedge shape makes it perfect to use as a doorstop. The original ZX81 I had I modified to replace the 2 2014 1kx4 bit ram chips to use a single 2kx8 ram chip as they put the chip holes for both on the main board. It worked pretty good.

    2. Re:Oldest kit? by lobiusmoop · · Score: 1

      You could always use it as for a casemod

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    3. Re:Oldest kit? by 99luftballon · · Score: 1

      Cheers to both of you, good ideas.

    4. Re:Oldest kit? by n4djs · · Score: 1

      replace the electrolytic capacitors, it is likely to work then....

    5. Re:Oldest kit? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well my Sinclair ZX81 still works, just about, around 25 years after we got it. Sadly the 16Kb RAM pack is toast, so there's not much you can do with it.

      Yeah, I've still got a Timex/Sinclair T/S-1000 that still works. With a working 16K RAM pack, and printer. It's from about 1981. My first computer. Don't have the same cassette player I had at the time though.

  13. Back then by rodrigoandrade · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Most electronic equipment was built to last, hence this guy got his modem to work.

    I doubt anyone will be able to run a GTX 280 in 45 years.

    1. Re:Back then by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What about a first generation XBox 360?

    2. Re:Back then by digitac · · Score: 2, Informative

      Hell, I can't get my 8800GTX from 2 years ago to work because EVGA won't honor their "Lifetime* Warranty".

      *apparently NOT lifetime

    3. Re:Back then by Sj0 · · Score: 1

      Jesus, you only need 3 LEDs to work for it to run just like the day it came out of the box!

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    4. Re:Back then by JCSoRocks · · Score: 1

      What, people won't need space heaters in 45 years?

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    5. Re:Back then by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 2, Funny

      What do you mean, "not lifetime"? It lasted for the entire lifetime of the card, didn't it?

    6. Re:Back then by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 1

      And any equipment not built to last is dead, which leaves a rather "built to last"-heavy pool, doesn't it?

      Your point on the GTX280 is likely valid, though. Flash RAM has a lot of perks; but its stated retention time tends to be around a decade(actual retention time shorter, I suspect, in a great many cases. Probably longer from time to time). Anything that will let you reflash its firmware is at a substantial risk of succumbing to bit rot in the not so distant future. Assuming you have firmware backups and some reflashing skills, that might not be an issue; but it sure won't be out of the box functional.

    7. Re:Back then by mattack2 · · Score: 1

      Couldn't you get your credit card company involved and/or the BBB?

    8. Re:Back then by sarahbau · · Score: 1

      Most companies these days call a "Lifetime Warranty" a warranty that lasts as long as they continue selling the product. It's not your lifetime - it's the lifetime of the product cycle. I think it's very misleading because no one thinks that's what they mean. It also gives a variable duration for the warranty - the longer after release you buy it, the shorter the warranty.

    9. Re:Back then by WillyWanker · · Score: 1

      Hmmm... same thing with my 8800GTS from 2 years ago. Apparently their definition of "lifetime" is "less than 2 years"

    10. Re:Back then by orngjce223 · · Score: 1

      FYI, he's talkin' about the Red Ring of Death.

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    11. Re:Back then by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Haven't you heard of global warming?

  14. PowerMac 5400 by XxtraLarGe · · Score: 3, Interesting

    My stepson currently has a PowerMac 5400 in his room, with a video in card. That came out in 1996, so it's about 13 years old. Until recently, he'd use it for watching VHS movies & playing his XBox.

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    1. Re:PowerMac 5400 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I actually used a PowerMac 5400 until around 2005, it and the most of the other parts of the system acquired through thrift stores (the HD I bought new.) System 8.5, dialed into the net at 14.4k (my modem was faster, but school's modem pool maxed out at 14.4k,) surfed the web with the iCab browser.

      When the logic board crapped out, I finally gave in and actually bought the then new G5 iMac. (And while waiting for the iMac to arrive, I used a modified Macintosh Color Classic.) Quite the upgrade in tech ... but I still surfed at 14.4k. I didn't give in to broadband until about a year and a half ago.

    2. Re:PowerMac 5400 by noidentity · · Score: 1

      My stepson currently has a PowerMac 5400 in his room, with a video in card. That came out in 1996, so it's about 13 years old. Until recently, he'd use it for watching VHS movies & playing his XBox.

      Ha! I am typing this right now on my PowerMac 8500, also manufactured in 1996. I use mine to surf the web and write portable, open-source C and C++ libraries, and still run Mac OS classic on it. The Apple Extended Keyboard II is sort of like the IBM model M; real switches for every key, nice audible feedback.

  15. "Would you like to play a game?" by peter303 · · Score: 1

    Maybe there are some ancient government computer backdoors out there that work with ancient modems. - Ferris Bueller

    1. Re:"Would you like to play a game?" by MagicM · · Score: 2, Informative

      I'm pretty sure you're thinking of Wargames. Ferris Bueller never hacked into any goverment computers.

    2. Re:"Would you like to play a game?" by aristotle-dude · · Score: 1

      Maybe there are some ancient government computer backdoors out there that work with ancient modems. - Ferris Bueller

      I remember accidentally breaking into a military computer when I was a teenager with my 1200 Baud modem. I dialed a number from a list that I got from another BBS, starred at the black screen for a bit and then decided to enter in five stars and then Enter. I was presented with a menu that I immediately recognized as being from the local armed forces base. Suffice to say, I chickened out and disconnected right away.

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    3. Re:"Would you like to play a game?" by Cmdr-Absurd · · Score: 1

      I'm pretty sure you're thinking of Wargames. Ferris Bueller never hacked into any goverment computers.

      Unless you consider the school district to be a form of government, that is. (And since school boards are elected, I think they count.)
      He hacked in to change his number of absences from 9 to (if memory serves) 2.

    4. Re:"Would you like to play a game?" by Bruiser80 · · Score: 1

      Does the school truancy database count as a government computer?

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      Arguing with an engineer is like wrestling a pig in the mud. After a while, you realize the engineer enjoys it.
    5. Re:"Would you like to play a game?" by twitchingbug · · Score: 1

      Well do you consider the school computer to be a government computer? He did hack it to change the number of sick days on his record.

    6. Re:"Would you like to play a game?" by 0xdeadbeef · · Score: 1

      I'm pretty sure you're thinking of Wargames. Ferris Bueller never hacked into any goverment computers.

      public school computer [is element of] "government computers"

      (stupid slashdot, eating Unicode math characters)

    7. Re:"Would you like to play a game?" by UncleTogie · · Score: 1

      Caller ID brought another relic of that era to an end: war-dialers.

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    8. Re:"Would you like to play a game?" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Move in men, we got him! It might have been 24 years and $100,000,000 in taxpayer monies, but we finally got him! HEY EVERYBODY, WE CAUGHT SOMEONE WE WE'RE LOOKING FOR!!!

    9. Re:"Would you like to play a game?" by michrech · · Score: 1

      So, then, you didn't "break in" to anything. You accidentally dialed a number that happened to belong to the military.

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    10. Re:"Would you like to play a game?" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      where is it you live again? :)

    11. Re:"Would you like to play a game?" by Gary+Perkins · · Score: 1

      The local university used to have a dialin for its library system. I spent a couple years getting a free terminal connection to the internet through them. First, I would dialin, and use their standard username/password of 'library', and get a menu. There were a couple menus that didn't have breaking turned off, and I could break out of the menu into a command prompt! I used lynx on VMS originally, until I found a free linux account. Anyone remember nether.net? After they plugged that hole, I simply selected 'connect to another library', and after getting into telnet from the menu, I pulled up telnet's in-connection menu, and spawned a new session to nether.net... Those were the days, man. Back then I didn't know anything about the internet...this was back in 95... I had so much fun figuring out how it worked.

  16. Token Ring out in the field... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    I had a one-night tech job a few years ago where a major financial institution was switching the network from Token Ring to Ethernet, even though all the workstations came equipped with built-in Ethernet and the building was wired for Ethernet. I made extra money that night because the younger, non-certified techs couldn't read the directions on the worksheet. They plugged the Ethernet cable into the Token Ring NIC card (which supported two cable types) and didn't run the network utility to see if the connection worked. The hardest part of that job was finding a taxi cab to take home at 3:00AM.

    1. Re:Token Ring out in the field... by bshroyer · · Score: 1

      This wasn't in St. Paul MN, was it?

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    2. Re:Token Ring out in the field... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      I was in the Cupertino, CA, branch office of Morgan Stanley. I would presume that IBM would upgrade all branch offices at the same time. We spent hours waiting for them to flip the switch in New York City.

  17. house by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I live in a house that's over 200 years old. I have some 78s from the first part of last century in a cupboard - they're fairly $$$. Don't have an old working gramophone player, but do have some old functional reel-to-reel audio tape equipment. I have a PDP in the corner. Erm, lots of computing stuff from the '80s, but who doesn't? My oldest modem's a 1200 baud from the late '80s. I still prefer serial (and parallel) ports to USB. USB is a horrible, horrible, horrible, horrible, horrible standard, and anything not suitable for a serial/parallel port has other better standards appropriate for it (Firewire, SCSI, etc).

    1. Re:house by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      I had some friends in college who rented out an old Victorian house in downtown San Jose that was originally wired for 12V DC.

    2. Re:house by clone53421 · · Score: 1

      My house is so old that the plaster/lath walls were repaired by plastering on newspapers from World War II. When I bought the house and repaired the walls last fall, we knocked off the large portions of loose plaster and discovered the newspapers underneath.

      I'm not sure how old the house itself is, but I'm pretty sure it had no indoor bathroom when it was built. This is partly because there is no bathroom on the first floor, and partly because there's a window right next to the toilet (!) in the 2nd floor bathroom.

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    3. Re:house by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Such visionaries -- wiring a house for solar power!

    4. Re:house by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Tesla would be ashamed

    5. Re:house by jimicus · · Score: 1

      She's been dead some years now, but my late Gran's house was older than your country.

    6. Re:house by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ~1940 is old?
      My house was built shortly after 1755.
      Pesky americans. :P

    7. Re:house by clone53421 · · Score: 1

      You missed the part where I said the walls were already in need of repairs ~1940.

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    8. Re:house by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I didn't missed it.
      I just chose to ignore it to make an arrogant european point. Pesky me.

  18. About 30 years here... by Onyma · · Score: 1

    I have a three-some of working Commodore PETs (2001, 4032, SuperPET) with associated disk & tape drives. All still work though some of the floppies get read errors now. I had a term package and modem for the SuperPET... I should set it all up again sometime and try the same feat for fun. The 2001 puts me back bordering 30 years... sigh. Thanks, now I feel old. :)

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  19. oldest pieces? by commodoresloat · · Score: 4, Funny

    The question I have, is what is the oldest working piece of equipment fellow Slashdotters have out there?

    Well as far as modem technology goes I've still got a classic 1200 baud Hayes modem; must be from the early 80s I would guess (perhaps older?); it was working fine when I stopped using it around 1993 or so (upgraded to 2400 baud FTW!!)* ... I'm sure it would still work if I plugged it in today but I'm not hunting down an RS-232 adapter to find out. If we want to talk audio gear I've got some much older items, including a pair of AR speakers from the 60s that still sound pretty damn good... Now get the hell off my lawn!

    * (and back then FTW still meant Fuck the World!!)

    1. Re:oldest pieces? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Well as far as modem technology goes I've still got a classic 1200 baud Hayes modem; must be from the early 80s I would guess (perhaps older?);

      Did you know many credit card terminals in stores still use 300 baud modems?

      The reason is the credit card industry wanted modems that would work through the crappiest, noisiest phone lines, and they don't have much information to transfer back & forth. So no need for faster modems.

    2. Re:oldest pieces? by docfruitbat · · Score: 1

      Well as far as modem technology goes I've still got a classic 1200 baud Hayes modem; must be from the early 80s I would guess (perhaps older?)

      Bah!

      I still have my original Apple ][ with my original Hayes Micro-modem (110/300) with it's external Micro-coupler (a blue ribbon cable) and the Trend-Comm terminal software for it (running of my Corvus 5Mb (yes, megabyte) harddisk).

      Now if I could just figure out how to connect it to my HDTV! :-)

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  20. Meh, I use a 1977 PDP-11 to occasionally surf by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Not quite as old, but I occasionally power up the old PDP-11/34a in my basement (running REAL BSD Unix, of course) and surf the web with lynx.

  21. PLEASE! Establish an "R2D2 Standard" by starglider29a · · Score: 2, Funny
    A young Obi Wan Kenobi flies with an Astrodroid, which is then used by his apprentice when he has grown old. The driod can still connect.

    Pick a small set of standards that will work "well enough" and let them become the Legacy Standard. I'm so sick of going to garage sales and seeing good equipment, such as printers and scanners, that won't connect to any computer that I own. I have a drawer full of PS/2 keyboards.

    I hope that someday, someone posts a /. article entitled "100 year old hardware used to connect to DNFNet"

    The grandson of Hemos connected to the DukeNukemForeverNet* using a computer with USB, DVI, a drive that SPINS, and only 64GB of RAM, after all, 64GB should be enough RAM for anybody.

    *DNFNEt is a networking protocol that uses baling wire and bubble gum... and I'm all out of bubble gum.

    1. Re:PLEASE! Establish an "R2D2 Standard" by MightyYar · · Score: 1

      I'm so sick of going to garage sales and seeing good equipment, such as printers and scanners, that won't connect to any computer that I own.

      What do you mean? Serial Adapter Parallel Adapter

      I have a drawer full of PS/2 keyboards.

      Only my Mac machines don't work with these, and as far as I know, Macs never used them. Even new "USB" keyboards typically come with a little PS2 adapter. Even if they don't, you can get a little converter - just like with the parallel and serial ports.

      There's no reason to saddle new machines with old, slow ports when the new, faster ports can accept adapters.

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    2. Re:PLEASE! Establish an "R2D2 Standard" by Abreu · · Score: 1

      A young Obi Wan Kenobi flies with an Astrodroid, which is then used by his apprentice when he has grown old. The driod can still connect.

      But all those years later, the poor droid can no longer fly...

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    3. Re:PLEASE! Establish an "R2D2 Standard" by jeffb+(2.718) · · Score: 1

      Pick a small set of standards that will work "well enough" and let them become the Legacy Standard. I'm so sick of going to garage sales and seeing good equipment, such as printers and scanners, that won't connect to any computer that I own. I have a drawer full of PS/2 keyboards.

      Okay. Would the "good enough" legacy graphics standard be VGA? Oops, you'll have to toss all your EGA, CGA, Hercules and NTSC/PAL monitors. For serial connectivity, you could provide a DB-9, and carry around a toolbox full of gender-swappers, null modems and 9-pin/25-pin/mini-DIN/RJ45 connectors like your father did. For parallel, there's a "standard" of sorts that's still commonly seen -- but do you remember how to connect it to a Centronics 737? Oh, and don't forget the DB-15 for Ethernet transceivers -- I paid good money for all this thicknet, and there's no way I'm tossing it just because this newfangled twisted-pair stuff has 100 times the capacity.

      Maybe instead of an optical drive, your laptop can have a pop-out shelf bearing an array of different connectors. You could even put some DIP sockets on the bottom so your old 16K RAM chips don't have to go to waste.

    4. Re:PLEASE! Establish an "R2D2 Standard" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Right now, no brainer, it's USB. Previously, PS/2, serial, and parallel. For the non-PC world you could thrown in SCSI (unfortunately they LOVED to constantly change the plug though.)

                Those scanners, printers, etc? Probably parallel or SCSI. Apple made non-standard Mac serial printers too, but there can't be a complaint about "legacy standards" when it's simply non-standard equipment.

                Software's another issue, but really only for WInodws -- I've plugged in, RECENTLY , several SCSI *and* parallel port scanners, and had them work fine under Linux, and any printer it did support stays supported by future versions too.

                BUT, with that said there were plent of non-standards...

    5. Re:PLEASE! Establish an "R2D2 Standard" by john83 · · Score: 1

      Once, as an undergraduate, I complained about the lack of a standard connector for mobile phone rechargers in the presence of one of my lecturers. He countered that if you standardise, you limit future innovation. USB is a much more useful connector than PS/2, and if it matters that much, there are always converters.

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  22. Where'd you get a compatible handset? by bzzfzz · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Most of the acoustic couplers back in the day were fairly picky about the telephone handset used.

    I make it a point to get rid of old digital gear, but I do have a telephone from the 1920s. It's still hooked up, and is one of the few reasons I still have a landline. It has the rayon-covered cord and everything.

    1. Re:Where'd you get a compatible handset? by clone53421 · · Score: 1

      The improved technology in telephone equipment has probably increased the audio quality enough to make that less difficult that it may have used to be. Just a guess, really.

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    2. Re:Where'd you get a compatible handset? by phreakmonkey · · Score: 2, Funny

      You expected someone who goes by the moniker "phreakmonkey" to throw away an old telephone?

    3. Re:Where'd you get a compatible handset? by lucifuge31337 · · Score: 1

      I've got a mid 1930's Western Electric butt set (lineman's hand set) that I have hooked up to a ATA. I use it as my desk phone at work on our voip PBX. All I really need to do (eventually) is put a caller ID box and a DTMF keypad inline . In the mean time, I just have my new(ish) modern butt set clamped on as well. That's my dialpad, speakerphone, and ringer. I really want an old phone booth with a phone. And yes, it will go voip too.

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  23. My Oldest Piece of Equipment by eldavojohn · · Score: 1

    The question I have, is what is the oldest working piece of equipment fellow Slashdotters have out there?

    I have an Atari 400 or 800 (I can't remember which one but it looks just like the 800 picture on Wikipedia but my buttons are different) from about 1979 in my parent's house in my old closet. And the only cartridge I had for it was something called "Left Hand BASIC" or maybe it was just "Left BASIC" which--unless I'm mistaken--was Atari's BASIC. Considering I was born in the early 80s, I bought it for $5 at a garage sale in 1996 and did a few procedures of Michael Crichton's Electronic Life (I used to be a big fan) on it and used a black and white TV as the monitor (I remember connecting it to the UHF posts on the back of the TV?). I did some of my first home computing on that thing. The really sad thing was that the large disc reader that came with it through a serial port didn't work so I had to punch everything in by hand over many hours to get back to where I was. Last time I was home, it still worked!

    If you're talking about things I purchased new and underwent serious use, I have a Dell Pentium III Optiplex from 2000 that still works great as a router to my network. It's hard drive (a deathstar no less) has been replaced once but aside from that, the huge PCI expansion bay make it great for that particular need.

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  24. Anyone still paying for a phone? by NotQuiteReal · · Score: 4, Funny

    I mean the phone instrument itself, perhaps with a dial? You know, the heavy duty ones that say property of Bell on the bottom?

    Heh, you might check your parents or grandma... they have probably paid thousands of dollars for that phone over the years.

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    1. Re:Anyone still paying for a phone? by jkeelsnc · · Score: 1

      HAHAHA i remember those. Growing up we had TWO of those phones. One was a nice desk phone with the rotary dial and then the really great one was the wall phone with a super long handset cord on it. Both phones were hardwired to the line and they were both rented from the phone company. LOL Yes, they both had the message that they were property of the phone company. Rotary dialing seems archaic now. In those days it was Southern Bell which was later BellSouth and now AT&T Southeast. I also remember calling my grandparents long distance. lOL They lived in oklahoma and we were in NC. Back then it sounded like they were talking at me from a very long distance as even when they talked loud the sound wasn't that loud on long distance calls and there was some noise in the background when we called them. Its amazing how much better technology is now versus 30 years ago.

    2. Re:Anyone still paying for a phone? by schmiddy · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Heh, you might check your parents or grandma... they have probably paid thousands of dollars for that phone over the years.

      The more things change, the more they stay the same. I take it you don't even look at your cell phone bill? Hint: It would be hard not to pay "thousands of dollars ... over the years" with just about any contract. $50/month + taxes + bogus fees adds up fast.

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    3. Re:Anyone still paying for a phone? by PhotoGuy · · Score: 2, Interesting

      For retro shits-n-giggles, I have two rotary phones (one wall mount, one desk) that ring with bells, etc.. I have an Asterisk system in the house, separate extensions in each room. But for my office, I like the funky old classic. It works fine with a Linksys ATA (pulse dialing, ringing). On some devices (iAXY), pulse dialing and sufficient ring current isn't provided, so they don't work; but on devices that still support pulse dialing, they do work nicely.

      I also have a hand-crank phone (turn the crank to ring the operator, to connect you, kinda thing). Obviously the cranking wouldn't do much (but maybe fry some equipment), but answering and holding a conversation works just fine. The electrical standards for telephony haven't changed since pretty much their inception (or at least they've kept an amazing amount of backwards compatibility).

      Given that it's hooked to a modern Asterisk system (which in turn is hooked to the internet), this is older than that 1962 modem (circa 1940, I believe). Having a 1940's phone connected to VOIP is quite a kick...

      What do I win?

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    4. Re:Anyone still paying for a phone? by TinBromide · · Score: 1

      Well, i'm not still paying, but i did find a few in the attic, my favorite is currently in a storage locker somewhere, but it works like a champ. I made an adapter to make it work with modern wall jacks but haven't made it ring yet (not that that is a bad thing).

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    5. Re:Anyone still paying for a phone? by Brett+Buck · · Score: 1

      Of course. I have a Trimline phone at my house, and have since it was legal to own a phone in about 1984 or so. Mine is touch-tone, not rotary. And at work we still have model 2500s all over the place.

            Say what you want about them, but when they were ATT property they certainly highly motivated to build them to last. The only thing left after a nuclear war will be Twinkies, cockroaches, and Model 500 phones.

              Brett

    6. Re:Anyone still paying for a phone? by Gotung · · Score: 1

      Around 1996 I was the treasurer for my fraternity. I happened upon the fact that we had been renting the phone in our kitchen for like $12 a month from Ma Bell for as far back as their records went at the time -- 1984.

      We had spent at least ~$2000 renting this damn phone, and when I tried to put a stop to it the customer service rep helpfully explained to me that renting it was an awesome deal because if it ever broke they would replace it for free ...

    7. Re:Anyone still paying for a phone? by newcastlejon · · Score: 1

      We have a red GPO (from when the Post Office ran the telephones) phone at home, which still works when plugged in (having wired an RJ11 to the end), even though it's pulse dial. Best of all, it's red! Fun being able to pretend you have the soviet premier on the other end of the hot line, what.

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    8. Re:Anyone still paying for a phone? by rickthewizkid · · Score: 1

      Actually, the Bell System had many hardened locations to provide service in case of nuclear war. Remember, the "modern" phone network was really built-out mostly during the Cold War.

    9. Re:Anyone still paying for a phone? by value_added · · Score: 1

      Of course. I have a Trimline phone at my house, and have since it was legal to own a phone in about 1984 or so.

      I remember when the Trimlines phones became available. They mostly appealed to women.

      Those were the days, of course. Men were men, women were women, and phones were mechanical devices with rotary dials and bells. Sigh. Today, of course, everything is created from miniaturisied electronic components and software. Hardly surprising we need to use analogies to understand what they are or do.

      Now excuse me while I go back to writing my novel on my Smith Corona wordprocessor.

    10. Re:Anyone still paying for a phone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's not funny; I remember seeing a news story on it a few years ago.

      There really are a few of them out there from back when phones were so expensive that Bell rented them to you since almost no one could afford to purchase one.

    11. Re:Anyone still paying for a phone? by makomk · · Score: 1

      Heh. My parents rented the UK equivalent until not all that long ago, relatively speaking. The BT phone handsets were really built to last. (It had a plug - it wasn't one of the older wired-in ones, though I've seen those too.)

  25. Still working with Paper Tape by Cassini2 · · Score: 4, Informative

    The CNC industry is still using NC machines built to work with paper tape. 30 years old and still going strong ...

    1. Re:Still working with Paper Tape by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My previous roommate had an ancient typewriter-style teletype terminal, with paper tape reader, and it had been used in an NC shop for decades. It was digital but transistorless -- all the digital logic was implemented electromechanically. I never saw it operate, but it seemed to be intact. Would be cool to see that up and running!

    2. Re:Still working with Paper Tape by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There still are a few purists out there using monotype casters which are paper tape driven typesetters from the days of hot lead (1885 on).
      Probably most of the ones in use are 20th century but the design uses compressed air to read the paper tape and not electricity.

      http://www.p22.com/Lanston/Giampa/DKeyboard.html

      From a computer geek point of view, the neat thing is that each line is typed on a keyboard with dials for the proportional widths of letters and at the end of the line a space width value is punched on the tape. In the caster the whole tape is read backwards to get the space value to use in the line. Sort of a one byte memory stack.

    3. Re:Still working with Paper Tape by mindaktiviti · · Score: 1

      Part of the reason why China is so far ahead of manufacturing. Because Canadian and US machine shops still use old slow CNC / NC Machines from the 70s & 80s. They could compete if they were better equipped. Wages are but a small cost of manufacturing.

      In the mid 2000's I was still helping with RS232 serial port connections so they could upload their G Codes into the Fanuc controller.

      (speaking from industry experience)

    4. Re:Still working with Paper Tape by littlerubberfeet · · Score: 1

      I've done it...

      Not only have I played with a monotype, but I know some people who have computer controlled solenoids on the air tower. Basically, they can run their monotype via computer. A text document is rendered into a virtual paper tape, then spat out via the control board to a solenoid manifold on the air tower. Awesome stuff.

      Newspaper Linotypes could be linked to a teletype, and could take wire service stories and cast them in real time while receiving. It ran the machines really, really hard.

      Now, we could go back further: I have cast type the way Gutenberg did...With a hand mould and matrix. The first mass reproduction technology...

      I didn't expect to see any typecasting comments in this article. It was a fun surprise.

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  26. Me by Matheus · · Score: 1

    Technically that would be me. At some point in Elementary school I was able to successfully connect with a friend of mine's 1200 baud modem with my voice. Can't say I was able to do much after that but it did say that the handshake was successful :)

    Beyond that, although my Amiga 1000 went to a garage sale back in high school I still have and occasionally use my 2000 which has the MIDI adapter I used with my 1000 from 85 so that would be roughly a 24 year old MIDI box that still gets used. The keyboard I hook it up to is a couple years older than that and the TV at our cabin was bought with insurance money from me being sick as a baby which is just under 32 years old.

    Define equipment?

  27. Well, it's no spring chicken by hyades1 · · Score: 1

    I've still got a working Apple 2c and a custom-modified dot matrix printer to use with it.

    And a rock. I've got a rock. I bet it would still do the same job some caveman would have used it for if he found out the chief was shagging his cave-mate, though I just use it as a doorstop.

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    1. Re:Well, it's no spring chicken by MasterOfMagic · · Score: 1

      But everybody wants a rock to wind a piece of string around!

  28. My 1979 Apple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My Apple ][+ with Micromodem II took over an hour to download a 120K photo at 300baud and then I found out that it fill up the entire floppy disk

  29. Kaypro II by xymog · · Score: 1

    Had an old Kaypro II, circa 1983. Single-side floppies, 9" green monochrome screen, weighed a ton. Load the OS from a floppy, then load an app from a floppy. Great stuff for its time!

    1. Re:Kaypro II by Ardx · · Score: 1

      Funny, I have a Kaypro II as well... rock on! Our Kaypros will rule this day!

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    2. Re:Kaypro II by Telecommando · · Score: 1

      I have one as well; they're aparently more common than I thought.

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  30. How Old Is My Crap: Mac ][ci by cmholm · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If we're gonna get into a how-old-is-my-crap thread: my oldest working gear is a 1989 Mac ][ci running NetBSD that I periodically haul out of the closet to use as a testbed within my private network. Used to be my dad's photoshop box, then handed down to my wife, and finally into my grubby paws. Its small, easy to store, boxy shape has saved it from her annual pogroms against old gear.

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    1. Re:How Old Is My Crap: Mac ][ci by againjj · · Score: 1

      A used IIci was my first computer. However, I later picked up an SE (circa 1987) which will run all the old games, like Lode Runner and Dark Castle, that we had from our 512KE (now a fishtank). And those games require system 6 (7 causes crashes). Do you know how fast a computer running system 6 on a hard drive boots? How about under 10 seconds?

    2. Re:How Old Is My Crap: Mac ][ci by shadedream · · Score: 1

      Ahh how I wish I still had an old IIsi just for nostalgia. My oldest current box is a Color Classic. Before I got married a few years back I had a Mac 512k though... kicking myself every so often for not keeping it.

  31. Old stuff by Anonymous+Codger · · Score: 1

    Not that old, really, but...

    Mac Plus (1986)
    Atari 400 plus peripherals, including an ATR8000, which is a Z80 box that doubled as a CPM machine and an Atari peripherals controller (1983)
    Sinclair ZX80 computer (1981) (I can't swear that this still works)

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  32. 2 Button Mouse by Bobfrankly1 · · Score: 1

    Not sure if it's one of the first two button mice, but it was purchased roughly a year before windows 3.1 came out. Good old Logitech 9pin serial. Still works, but almost hurts to use it compared to the logitech g5. Thing must be about 20 years old now...

  33. I retrieve all my webpages by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    using CowboyNeal. I imagine I can keep it going until 2073 or so. It is low maintenance and runs fast.

    1. Re:I retrieve all my webpages by mzs · · Score: 1

      This was circa the summer of '97. I bought a 110 baud Tandy modem at a swap meet. It did not use the Hayes AT command and the UART had a two byte buffer. You needed to get the next byte out before the modem transmitted the prior byte. There were some toggle switches, one would answer the other would treat a pin as GPIO to a relay and that is how you pulse dialed. In fact in the beginning I simply flipped a toggle, dialed a number, waited for an answer, flipped a toggle, and put the handset down. Before the summer break I got a good start on an ANSI emulator for my HP48S, but it just was not able to keep-up due to occasional garbage collection (it was only partially Saturn ml since I used the gcc port and called some HP library stuff that was not implemented in ML). That summer I wrote a terminal emulator for my CoCoII and Apple IIc and used that modem to dial into the modem pool at the University and then used mm to read and write emails. I shortly got an email like, "WTF? When you connect at that speed you use the really old hot modems in the modem pool. Could you please connect at a higher speed since we want to retire those." So I used a Tandy 1000XL for a bit with a 1200 baud modem. Then there was an email sent to everyone using the modem pool that the old modems were going to be retired in two months and the lowest speed was going to be 9600 baud. The fastest modem at home at the time was 2400 baud. I got lucky though and scrounged-up a 14.4 pcmcia fax/modem (plus a 10mbit ethernet hub) at the next swap meet when I traded in all of my old 2.5 mbit coax ethernet gear from home.

    2. Re:I retrieve all my webpages by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      CowboyNeal doesn't run, he waddles!

    3. Re:I retrieve all my webpages by mzs · · Score: 1

      Huh? I must have replied to the wrong thread.

  34. Ancient Laptop! by omnichad · · Score: 1

    I have a Tandy Model 100 laptop. It has a 4 line LCD screen, 3k of memory, and it runs 20 hours on 4 AA batteries. I also have an old Macintosh with a DOS compatibility card. It has both Mac OS7 and Windows 3.1

    1. Re:Ancient Laptop! by Maximum+Prophet · · Score: 1

      I'll bet that Model 100 boots much faster than any laptop today.

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    2. Re:Ancient Laptop! by omnichad · · Score: 1

      I'll bet that Model 100 boots much faster than any laptop today.

      2 seconds flat!

    3. Re:Ancient Laptop! by omnichad · · Score: 1

      Had considered getting a serial cable for it. It would be the perfect instant-boot serial console. Except for the whole 4 line thing.

    4. Re:Ancient Laptop! by Maximum+Prophet · · Score: 1

      Take it to a local computer store and tell the salesdroid you are looking to buy a replacement, but it has to boot faster than the Model 100. Ask to see the slick $5000 super-wiz-bang models, then ask "Why are they so slow?"

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    5. Re:Ancient Laptop! by omnichad · · Score: 1

      But then they show me a $2000 laptop with instant on features that more than surpass everything that my Model 100 does when fully booted, and is $1000 cheaper the original retail price of the Model 100.

      I say "well what about my 20 hours of battery life?" and then they proceed to sell me $1000 worth of battery packs, and then I'm stuck buying it because I was acting all serious when I was so arrogant and so sure that nothing like it would be available.

  35. Primary Keyboard: 1991 IBM Model M by Liket · · Score: 2, Informative

    How about oldest piece of equipment in regular use?

    I use a 1991 IBM Model M at my main workstation, which puts me at 18 years. They just don't make them like this anymore (well actually Unicomp does)

    1. Re:Primary Keyboard: 1991 IBM Model M by mzs · · Score: 1

      I use a nearly 7 year old eMac running 10.5.7 as my primary computer at home. My wife does as well. We and my kids have two newer PCs as well but one is used mainly for RCT3 and WMC, while the other for web browsing (since flash is so horrible at this point on the eMac). What has kept the eMac so well used is iDVD, iMovie, and iPhoto (also macports for me). I have FreeBSD on the WMC machine but it is inconvenient since the tuners are almost always going to or are recording something. The BIOS in the web browsing one does crazy stuff when I use USB keyboard and mouse (I have to since the PS/2 ports are borken) where inb to the controller ports reflects what would have been seen if there was a PS/2 keyboard and mouse. I have no way to disable that in the BIOS and then FreeBSD thinks I have two mice and keyboards. So I do not compile the PS/2 stuff into the kernel and then the USB keyboard and mouse do not work half of the time until I unplug and plug them in again, and then the USB mouse keeps disconnecting and reconnecting periodically, and then I gave-up. So because of all that the workhorse computer at home is nearly 7 years old. It also has a DVD drive old enough that it lets us read Polish and US DVDs.

    2. Re:Primary Keyboard: 1991 IBM Model M by lucifuge31337 · · Score: 1

      How about oldest piece of equipment in regular use?

      I posted this earlier, but I have top jump in on this because I think I win. Mid 1930's Western Electric butt set hooked up to an ATA to connect to out VoIP PBX at work. It's my normal desk phone.

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  36. First exposure by delta98 · · Score: 1

    to the digital world was in 1977 or so . An acoustic coupler where we had to listen for the tom\e and quickly set the phone in the cradle. I learned to plat tic-tac-toe with a western electric telex machine. It took for ever by todays standards but this kid was amazed. 300 baud? Yeah. Thats about right. Upper Perkiomen Jr. High. lol that brings back memories.

  37. 50 year old loudspeakers by Turzyx · · Score: 1

    My grandfather still swears by his Quad ESL-57 electrostatics, from the late 50s.

    About 5 or 6 years ago the power supply units were rebuilt and the panels were cleared of crap that had settled on them over the years, and they sound better than ever.

  38. More cool stuff today...a hand-wired computer also by thomasdz · · Score: 1

    Back before the days of the 4004, 8008, and 8080, when we built computers, we REALLY built computers.
    None of this take a pre-built-motherboard, add a pre-built-power-supply, add a pre-built graphics card...

    A great example: http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2009/05/homebrewed-cpu/

    oblig: get off my lawn

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  39. Apple II by SchizoStatic · · Score: 1

    I still rock an Apple II to play Oregon Trail and Number Munchers

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  40. Apple IIe, Compaq by sean_nestor · · Score: 1
    I own two Apple IIes that work perfectly (one complete with the boxes it came in!). Nothing like playing Oregon Trail the way God intended it...

    I also have the original Compaq portable, which was arguably the first laptop computer. Sadly, one of my students smoked the power supply a couple years back, so it no longer works. I know that eliminates it from the category of "still working", but it did work for 26 years, which is fairly impressive. And its still fun to show people the design.

  41. ISA slots by xkenny13 · · Score: 1

    The oldest I have in service is a Cyrix 6x86 system running Windows 98 SE. I need it for the ISA slots so that I can run my *Needhams PB-10 EPROM burner.

    * Since www.needhams.com doesn't come up anymore, I wonder if they are even still in business. :-(

    1. Re:ISA slots by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

      Have you tried a USB-to-ISA adapter?

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    2. Re:ISA slots by Shadow_139 · · Score: 1

      We have a few P4 desktops with have ISA, PCI and PCIe slots, they are controlling a system of VERY large CNC systems.

    3. Re:ISA slots by xkenny13 · · Score: 1

      I also have a parallel-port EPROM burner that I use more frequently, the Xtronics Pocket Programmer ... however, it is not fully compatible with all of the older EPROM chips that I occasionally use.

      At least their website is still active, and the latest Pocket Programmer runs off the USB port. Right now, I have no need for a $249.95 upgrade, but will keep it in mind.

      Do you have a link to your preferred USB-to-ISA product?

      For the record, I did find that the PB-10 would not necessarily run on newer (faster) computers. Maybe some of the internal timing has changed?

    4. Re:ISA slots by yuhong · · Score: 1

      Have you tried a USB-to-ISA adapter?

      A USB-to-ISA adapter would be impossible. A PCI-to-ISA bridge is possible, but requires signals that are not available on the standard PCI slot, that is why it is usually integrated on the motherboard and formerly was part of the southbridge.

  42. Who else had one? by reidiq · · Score: 0

    I had a Tandy 1000 that I got from my dad when he bought it decades ago. I remember thinking how freaking cool it was when I was a kid playing games on it and printing reports for school on the dot matrix printer lol.

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  43. Just decommisioned... by NotNormallyNormal · · Score: 1

    ... an old VAX machine from the mid-80's. We have several large spool tape drives around too, but I'm not sure they still work. Personally my wife made me throw out most of my old stuff, though I have several old floppies from my Apple II from the early 80's.

    1. Re:Just decommisioned... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I am trying to decommission some VAX machines as well. They control some traffic in a city - they are 20+ years old.

  44. TRS-80 25 years+ by SpeedyG5 · · Score: 1

    My friend still does all his accounting on TRS-80's, he runs a printing business and bought 3 units as spare parts supplies so he can have 5 9's uptime ;) Not the oldest but for still being used as a critical app that is pretty darned old.

  45. Mine is my dick at 54 years! by kawabago · · Score: 1

    And it still works most of the time!

    1. Re:Mine is my dick at 54 years! by microbee · · Score: 1

      And what's the baud rate of that?

    2. Re:Mine is my dick at 54 years! by TeknoHog · · Score: 1
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    3. Re:Mine is my dick at 54 years! by Sj0 · · Score: 1

      Saying something like that on the internet, expect to be V&.

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    4. Re:Mine is my dick at 54 years! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      (Above link is required reading)

    5. Re:Mine is my dick at 54 years! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But what if I don't WANT to know how many Libraries of Congress' worth of data are encoded in the DNA in an average-sized ejaculation?

    6. Re:Mine is my dick at 54 years! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just think of the pillow-talk possibilities, though...

  46. Myself... by religious+freak · · Score: 1

    The matter inside of me is just reconstituted material dating back ~20 Billion years. Beat that!

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  47. Sega Master System by Brandee07 · · Score: 1

    My older brother got a Sega Master system for his fifth Christmas, which puts me at three years old. So, the system is twenty years old.

    We still have Afterburner, Hang On!/Safari Hunt, and Wonder Boy, and a light gun controller. All of these still function when I last checked about a year ago, although to use it now it and all of its cables must be recovered from the electronics graveyard (my dad's garage).

  48. IBM PCjr circa 1984 by ground.zero.612 · · Score: 1

    It has a whopping 128k of expanded memory (I think it originally came with 64k), a 5.25" floppy drive, and 2 ROM expansion ports. It was my first computer with a wireless keyboard that uses IR and runs on AA batteries. Still boots, though the floppy drive is a bit loud by today's standards heh. The monitor is a tad blurry as well but still very legible.

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  49. AM Multiplex radio transmitter/rcvr built 1957 ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It was my own design, done for a science fair, used 10KC (KHz) beat oscillator to move one audio channel up in frequency.
    So it's equipment, and even electronic (tube type). Normally needs the tuning capacitor cleaned to get it to work though;
    dust shorting it out keeps oscillators from running.

  50. should be tagged ibeforeeexceptafterc by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    that is all

  51. OS/2 box by jroesner · · Score: 1

    I still have my 1995 era OS/2 box I built. Some of the components go back to 93 or so. I paid an obscene amount in 1996 for the 2.1GB Micropolis SCSI drive in there. Hands down the best component in the thing is the STB 4Com 4 port serial card. With it's myriad of jumpers to set I was amazed it worked right the first time...

  52. 1900's Mechanical Cash Register by Radtastic · · Score: 1

    I'm not sure if this is what the OP had in mind, but I have a National Cash Register model that I believe is from either 1894 or 1904. (It's been in my garage for about 10 years, with the intentional plan of restoring it.)

    All the keys and counter still work. Honestly, I'm amazed by the engineering every time I look inside.

    I'm at work, so I can't verify 100%, but this listing from ebay is pretty close. (I do know it's a "dolphin" design.)

    The drawer numbers don't match the register (a detriment for collectors' purposes), but it's still a cool piece of machinery. Weighs a ton.

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  53. Commodore 64 by GodfatherofSoul · · Score: 1

    Still works, but I haven't tried out the floppy drive (which is ENORMOUS BTW). I still have fond memories of programming in Basic on it. This was way before I even knew there was a such thing as a job for programmers!

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    1. Re:Commodore 64 by flyboyfred · · Score: 1

      I have a C64 I bought brand new in Dec. 1984. I also have a Datasette cassette tape drive and two 1541 floppy drives. They all work. Another cool thing is that a printer interface that I got back in about 1986 to run a dot-matrix printer works just fine with a Canon BJ-200 injet printer!

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  54. The SD2 or the 1702;that's model number, not year. by The+Archon+V2.0 · · Score: 1
    I have a few older pieces in storage elsewhere, but the oldest I can get my hands on without having to leave the apartment is either an MSD SD2 drive or a 1702 monitor.

    When I moved I put my C64s into storage, but I brought these two with me. The SD2 was the first piece of hardware I ever fixed. (Sure, it was just a blown fuse, but there's nothing like being given something that was about to be thrown out and making it work just like new.) The monitor was stol^H^H^H^Hsalvaged though wasn't even broken (no one knew how to plug anything into it, so it was left to languish).

    Of course, while I'm reasonably sure the SD2 is working (the move wasn't THAT brutal), since I didn't have room for the C64s I have nothing to plug it in to. Though my 1702 monitor works just peachy when fed a composite TV signal. In a pinch, I even used it for a - very blurry - PC monitor on a computer with TV out.

  55. Old by Quiet_Desperation · · Score: 5, Funny

    what is the oldest working piece of equipment fellow Slashdotters have out there?

    There's this rock I use as a paperweight next to my computer. I figure it's anywhere between 100 million and 2 billion years old.

    1. Re:Old by Radtastic · · Score: 1

      And you expect us to believe you with that margin of error?!?!?!?!?!

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    2. Re:Old by goldaryn · · Score: 1

      > There's this rock I use as a paperweight next to my computer. I figure it's anywhere between 100 million and 2 billion years old.

      Me too.. makes it hard to RTFM doesn't it..

    3. Re:Old by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have to disagree, I'd say no more than 6,000 years old.

    4. Re:Old by tsstahl · · Score: 1

      Got proof?

      It's all about the pedigree, ya know...

      I have a source that says it is only about 6000 thousand years old...

    5. Re:Old by Sj0 · · Score: 1

      That's nothing. I just breathed some hydrogen, and I figure those puppies(The hydrogen atoms) are about as old as old gets.

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    6. Re:Old by Hillgiant · · Score: 1

      Does it run netBSD?

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    7. Re:Old by XorNand · · Score: 1

      A hobby of mine is woodworking. One piece of invaluable equipment is a jointer which is used for putting a parallel face or edge on a board. Along with a planer, a jointer is used to ensure that the boards are straight and square. It resembles a long table with a gap in the middle that contains a rotating cutter head.

      While jointers produced today have newer bells-and-whistles, the machines produced 60+ years ago are generally considered superior and are highly sought after. This is primarily because they were made of solid cast iron, which is heaver and absorbs vibration better than the stamped steel machines made now (vibration is the enemy of smooth cuts). They also last forever and are rather easy to maintain since being able to easily fix your own equipment was more of a concern than the price tag back then.

      There's also a similar situation with vintage Stanley hand planes and other woodworking tools. It's not simply a sense of nostalgia either. These old tools are genuinely better than most off-the-shelf stuff on today's market. I wonder if we'll ever look back on computers in the same way?

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    8. Re:Old by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow. And here I was worrying that I'm getting old.

  56. oblig. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    300 baud ought to be enough for anyone. Just bring some time.

  57. Heathkit H11 by Temkin · · Score: 1

    Somewhere at my parent's house I have a PDP-11/03 in Heathkit trim (Heathkit H11). It worked last time I tried it. RT-11... Mmmmm.... Ok. No, it was nasty, but back in 1977 it was a 16 bit TRS-80 killer. I think I still have a 300 baud acoustic modem somewhere in a box. It wouldn't be '60's vintage, but mid-70's, not that they evolved much before the Ma Bell lawsuit. I do have a working TRS-80 model 100 laptop.

    Now get off my lawn...

  58. I've got a Babbage engine that says--- by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    you're all a bunch of wannabes

  59. My oldest peice. by cat6 · · Score: 1

    Is a Sega master system that was made in 1987. Yes it still works and I play it about twice a year. This was the Nintendo rival for 8 bit systems.

  60. What counts as 'tech'? by smellsofbikes · · Score: 1

    My 1989 Amiga is plugged in and runs fine (booted it up about a month ago.)
    My 1968 HP 182C oscilloscope still works pretty well.
    My (grandfather's, which I inherited) Simpson 1932 voltmeter works okay, as does a roughly 1940 Starrett 0.0001" (yes, ten thousandths of an inch) dial indicator.
    My (great grandfather's) post vise for blacksmithing, from circa 1880, also works pretty well.
    A set of andirons for a fireplace is also ... functional? and I have no idea how old they are, but I know they've been in the family since the 1840's. The threaded fasteners that attach the top bit (knewel?) to the body appear to be hand-filed, although the nut-like objects are tap-threaded.

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    1. Re:What counts as 'tech'? by tirerim · · Score: 1

      I was going to ask the same question. I have an Apple ][e that I picked up in 1999 when my high school finally got rid of them, and a Zenith 8088 IBM-compatible that my mother bought in 1983. I have a portable Smith-Corona typewriter that dates from sometime in the 1940s. Some of the things in my grandmother's sewing kit, which I inherited, are probably from the 1930s -- there are spools of thread and packets of needles that say "10Â". The boiler in my house dates from around 1900, though it only barely works at this point (and is getting replaced in a couple of weeks). Some of my father's tools, which he inherited from his father (born in 1880) are probably older than that. Also some of his hardware (the nails and bolts kind), and possibly some of his spare lumber.

    2. Re:What counts as 'tech'? by smellsofbikes · · Score: 1

      Before 1775 there weren't any machine-cut bolts: they were all done by hand. After about 1830 the large majority of bolts were lathe-cut.
      I don't remember exactly when the first nail-forming machines were made, but people were still commonly making nails by hand until the 1870's. So, bolts and nails made by machine in the mid-1800's were cutting-edge technology in their time, much like the acoustic modem.

      I used to have a stack of modems: a 1200 baud IBM about the size of three stacked textbooks, a 9600 baud Hayes maybe the size of a cigar box, and a 28,800 USRobotics, one of those weird little console things that look like a miniaturized Atari 800, on top of that. I think I got rid of the big ones about ten years ago, though. Old tech is kind of cool to look at but unless it's actually still usable, I tend to get bored with it pretty quickly and find it another home.

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  61. Commodore Vic20 + tape storage by DontBlameCanada · · Score: 1

    My parents bought me a my first computer, a Commodore Vic-20 in 1982.

    Sadly it doesn't work anymore. A freak lightning strike 5 years ago blew the tops off several capacitors and left noticible markings on several chips. :-(

    1. Re:Commodore Vic20 + tape storage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But you still have it? Why?

  62. Old Mac by binaryspiral · · Score: 1

    I have a Quadra 700 with a PowerPC upgrade NuBus card installed. It has 12MB of memory and an external 9GB full hight (12 pound) hard drive. I have it connected to my network with a 10Mb/sec AAUI dongle and host a website from it.

    No, I won't let you slashdot it - because my crappy DSL would be out before the web server would go down. :)

  63. Also have a C-64 by Radtastic · · Score: 1

    ...with a 1541 5.25" floppy drive. It's been about 5 years since I turned the computer itself on, even longer since I tested the drive, not to mention any of the floppies. (Which I still have a few, but haven't been tested in probably 15-20 years.)

    It goes without saying, my wife doesn't like my pack-rat habits :)

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  64. a dell dimension xps p166c by fl!ptop · · Score: 1

    according to dell's website, it shipped in march 1996. this thing is a rock, all original configuration hardware-wise. installed redhat 6.2 (damn, that was a good o/s) and it's never turned off, unless there's a power outage, or i open it to vacuum out the dust. currently used as my cvs server and local dns. i can't believe the hard drive is still spinning.....

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  65. s n d by fche · · Score: 1

    Token slashdot "involve your audience" question: isn't there some news worth writing about today? This isn't it.

    1. Re:s n d by StoneCrusher · · Score: 1

      Go watch television if you don't want involvement. This is not a website for breaking news and generating content. Slashdot links to those things... and heres the kicker, discusses them as a community. Not all the comments are worthy of a pulitzer prize but some cream generally floats to the top. For this reason some discussions don't even focus on the linked article and are more focused on the commenter's own experiences. This is clearly one of those discussions. The summary has the question right there. There are millions of webpages out there. Don't bitch when one of them for one day doesn't perfectly satisfy your whims. It is clearly making other people here happy.

  66. Hmm... by downix · · Score: 1

    Oldest equipment I have on the internet would have to be my 1983 Commodore 64, which is a terminal off of my Linux box. Basic RS232 connection.

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  67. imagine... by BetterSense · · Score: 1

    Now imagine a beowulf cluster of those.

  68. my laserjet by Darth_brooks · · Score: 1

    The HP Laserjet 4 on my desk has a build date of December 1992. It's already out of my employer's inventory, but I've graciously offered to only use it until we run out of toner. Of course, the office that it came from purchased four spare toners to go with the fresh one that's still in the machine, so I figure the machine will probably be old enough to drink by the time I actually have to get rid of it....

    922k pages over it's life time. Here's hoping I can get to 1 million before it croaks.

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    1. Re:my laserjet by necrogram · · Score: 1

      Wow, mines a baby, I only have 55K pages on it. Runs like a champ

  69. 14" Radiation King Monitor by fyoder · · Score: 2, Funny

    I have a 14" Radiation King that refuses to die. It's from about 1990, just before radiation levels became a marketing thing. Now I guess we just assume low radiation, as I haven't seen that touted as a selling point for quite some time.

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  70. Old Computer Equipment by jkeelsnc · · Score: 1

    Well, i like a lot of new AND old computer technology. Given that is the case i have a few relics of my own. I have a 25 year old Commodore 64 with monitor and disk drive that still work fine. I still play games on it occasionally. Additionally, I have a Pentium IV PC that is a frankenstein. The newest component in it is about six years old and the oldest component in it which is the DVD-ROM drive is 10 years old and still works perfectly. It also has a 30GB WD hard drive in it that is over 8 years old and still working perfectly. In my closet I have an original model IMac which still works perfectly. I still have all the manuals and the restore disk from apple for it. For that matter the newest Piece of hardware I have is already 5 years old. It is a Sony VAIO P4/3.0Ghz PC which still works great. The only thing I did to it was upgrade the memory in it to 2GB RAM. By the way, 32 Bit Vista works fine on it and I have a DX9 compatible video card so it works fine with Aero etc. I was skeptical that Vista would work reasonably well with it but it does! :) I have two older PIII PC's that are in various states of disrepair and will be an upcoming project to combine some of the parts in them into a working machine. The old "frankenstein" P4 system has Ubuntu 9.04 on it now. Fun stuff. :)

  71. 25 year old pens by pz · · Score: 1

    I regularly use pens (fountain pens) that I purchased 25 years ago. They're working just fine still. Every now and then they get a proper bath in the ultrasonic cleaner and continue to write like new.

    Before he retired a handful of years ago, my father, a research engineer, regularly used a custom computerized debugging and test rack that he built in the early 1980s based on a Southwest Technical Products MC6809-class computer.

    In my laboratory, I use oscilloscopes that are 20-30 years old (Tektronix, and periodically recalibrated). And my supply of platinum wire is from the 1940s (inherited from another laboratory). I have bench power supplies from the early 1970s that are in regular use as well (Lambdas never go bad). And a custom-made 6-channel differential amplifier that looks to be from the 1960s. I have a custom-made wire twisting apparatus that I built 15 years ago. My office stereo is about 20 years old (Proton 300). For laboratory work, I use monitors that are 7 or 8 years old (big honking CRTs), but my computers are all 3 years old or younger, with data being migrated from older to newer at each upgrade.

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    1. Re:25 year old pens by pz · · Score: 1

      And then there's this book I use pretty regularly. Haley's "Handbook for Machine Designers, Shop Men and Draftsmen" from 1916 that has a wonderful gem of a screed against the Metric System on page 495 that I quote below:

      That monument to the scientific zeal combined with ignorance of practical requirements --- the metric system --- is unfortunately present in the world and cannot be ignored.

      [ ... ]

      The metric system is, at best, a complete subordination of the greater to the lesser --- of the function of measuring to that of calculation. Its advocates forget "that the chief function of a system of weights and measures is to weigh and measure, not to make calculations," Because of this some of its units are ill adapted to many of the purposes of life, while the decimal division of units is far inferior to binary divisions for the purposes of commerce and manufacture.

      The handbook contains a wealth of information of how to design machines. Very, very useful, despite being printed 92 years ago.

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  72. Heathkit H89 by Maximum+Prophet · · Score: 1

    I still have my Heathkit H89 packed away in the basement. I tell my wife that it's my payment into the Old Programmers home when I retire...

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  73. Procrastinate much? by sootman · · Score: 5, Funny

    He recieved it in 1989 and recently decided to see if it would actually work.

    Wow. And I thought I was bad about putting things off.

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    1. Re:Procrastinate much? by commodoresloat · · Score: 1

      Well it's been in the queue since 1989 but since he's doing everything at 300 baud that's how long it took to get to this task.

  74. Three great old units by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have an IBM PC, and IBM-AT and a Tandy 102 (The ORIGINAL notebook). All work fine. I use the Tote-02 for a terminal every now an then for text based CLI routers and such. Every year or so I fire up the PC and the AT just to make sure they still work.

  75. Really old tech by Rootbear · · Score: 1

    I remember 300 baud modems. Cool that one still works today. The oldest operating bit of technology in my house is my 120 year old Seth Thomas kitchen clock, which is currently being cleaned, but I use it daily.

  76. Young whipper snappers..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I using my new fangled IMSAI8080 and my father is using his old PDP11. After talking to you young-uns I'm playing Global Thermonuclear War with the Whopper....

    1. Re:Young whipper snappers..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thats WOPR you know-nothing ingrate. Now get off my lawn!

  77. I'm sure this isn't a record by nsayer · · Score: 1

    The oldest thing I have is a PCPI Applicard that I bought circa 1984.

    I actually overclocked the thing to 10 MHz by replacing the CPU with a Z80-H, replacing the RAM with faster chips, replacing the crystal with a 20 MHz one, and replacing the NOT gate chip being used to oscillate the crystal with a mil-spec version that could go that fast. At the time, it was able to compile code in Turbo Pascal so fast that you couldn't see the line numbers from under the blur of the overstriking cursor. I brought it into school one day and it was actually faster at compiling code than the then reasonably state of the art PCs they had on hand.

    In fact, the Applicard was a CP/M machine of its own writ small. It was a Z-80 with 64K of RAM and communicated over a single-byte parallel port with the host. The 6502 ran full speed while acting more or less as an I/O coprocessor for the Applicard. I even wrote some 6502 device drivers for it so that I could run CP/M from my hard disk and could use the 800K 3.5" floppies. I even got it working with my old Apple Cat at one point.

    Alas, I no longer have an Apple ][ to use it in, so it just collects dust in the garage. :(

    1. Re:I'm sure this isn't a record by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Braggart!

  78. How definitive was Atari? by tepples · · Score: 1

    I have an Atari 400 I still drag out from time to time when I get an itch to play the "definitive" (to me at least!) versions of Pac-Man, Donkey Kong and Defender.

    Since when is the Atari 400/800 version of Donkey Kong the definitive version? In this page, compare the "Atari 800 Donkey Kong" sprite (first in the "Early Home Ports"; the second is from Mario Bros.) to the "ColecoVision" sprite (third), and then compare the "ColecoVision" sprite to the first sprite in "Mario 1.0". Nintendo thought the ColecoVision port of DK was so authentic that when it designed the Family Computer/Nintendo Entertainment System, it based the PPU's architecture directly on that of TI's TMS99xx VDP in the ColecoVision and Sega Mark I.

    1. Re:How definitive was Atari? by Astroturtle · · Score: 1
      lol... dude, i think you're taking the DK a little too seriously. ;)

      (BTW I did mention it was definitive to me.)

      Later,
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  79. Sparc10 by Anisity · · Score: 1

    SUN SparcStation 10.... still working, last used as a router. Circa 1992, so about 17 years old.

    1. Re:Sparc10 by dotgain · · Score: 1
      I was out at Mother-in-law's farm the other day where I'd long ago stashed some machines I was going to get out again 'one day'. I saw my old SparcStation 1 on a trailer-load of rubbish headed for the tip, and wept a little. DOM on that was June 1989, had a big battery hand soldered onto the rtc/eeprom. Ran Solaris 2.6 and Mandrake Linux 7.1 (with X) on it. Just.

      Along with it was a DEC Alpha whose specs I can't remember, apart from weighing one metric fuckton. Almost got NetBSD on that, but kept having crashes

  80. Classic computing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In the past could years, I've really become very interested in classic computing. I'm buying all the computers that I lusted over but couldn't dream of ever being able to afford. I had an amiga 500 back in 1988 and used apple 2es at school since 1984. But now I have two Amiga 2000s, a 600, and most of a 1200. I have a platinum apple 2e and an apple 2gs. I also have a commodore 64c and a 128d (the one with the steel case). I'm still shopping for the other amiga models and as many upgrades for each of them as I can afford without going crazy. I'm also interested in an original IBM 5150, 5160, and 5170. I have plans to hack a modern computer into a 5170 case and a modern slot-loading dvd drive into a commodore 1571 floppy drive case. It would be nice to play with a PCjr also. And an apple 2c would be fun. I also recently bought the first macintoshes i've ever owned. I have a quadra 700 and a IIfx. All of my machines work except for the IIfx which just needs an OS installed. I have nearly every bit of software ever created for the amiga and c64 (in disk image form). I'm also in the process of collecting mac and 2e/2gs software. I also have a catweasel board for writing classic floppy disks, although it still doesn't have 2e write support. My lack of 2e/2gs software has created a chicken/egg problem. I don't even have appledos or prodos disks. But there's a way to boot apple 2e machines using this thing called ADT and IN#2. You literally program the 2e/2gs over the serial cable transferring all of prodos. But first I need to get the quadra 700 on my network. Then the fun can begin. :-)

  81. RCA 6N7 by tubegeek · · Score: 1

    I've got a metal-envelope RCA 6N7 tube (dual triode with a common cathode) in my stereo system's power amplifier that dates back to the pre-WWII area. And some of the other parts in that amp are of the same vintage, including the power transformer and a few resistors.

  82. MS products by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have a shrink wrapped "Microsoft Window 3.0" (c) 1990, with the label on the front:

    "New! Breaks the 640K memory barrier. Unleash all the power of your PC."

    I use as a door stopper, but I'm still to embarrassed to post this under my account.

       

  83. Still use a VCR bought my freshman year...1991 by axl917 · · Score: 1

    An Emerson that has chugged along reasonably well...a few of the buttons got cracked pushed into the unit, and it flips out and blinks repeatedly if a tape is ever ejected for more than 5-6 seconds. But it still records just fine.

  84. Where's the oscillator on this thing? by Bohnanza · · Score: 1

    "the original serial adapter wasn't working because the oscillator depends on the serial voltage"

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    Sorry, I'm only a 1336 h4x0r.

    1. Re:Where's the oscillator on this thing? by scsirob · · Score: 1

      The modulating part (oscillator) is a VCO or Voltage Controlled Oscillator. It probably uses the TX data line to change the audio frequency directly.

      The RS-232 standard specifies +12V and -12V signal levels. Most modern RS-232 ports and especially the USB-powered adapters can only generate +5V, hence the VCO would generate the wrong audio frequency

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      To Terminate, or not to Terminate, that's the question - SCSIROB
  85. Pedant alert by Dice · · Score: 1

    He isn't really surfing with the modem. He's running a terminal over the modem and displaying the rendered page as fetched by the remote server running lynx. This is less bandwidth intensive than the actual browsing would be, which is amusing to think of given how slow even drawing the screen was over that link.

    Just the HTML for http://en.wikipedia.org/ is 57K. That would take approx 30min to transfer over a 300 baud link.

  86. Soo much old stuff by drummerboybac · · Score: 1

    I have a Atari 2600 still actively in use to play Kaboom with the old paddles I also have a bunch of old Apple kit that still works, such as Apple IIe 1983 LASER 128(Clone) 1984 Mac SE 1987 Quadra 630 1994 Centris 660AV 1994 Powerbook Duo 280c 1994 Powerbook 540c 1994 Newton 1995 All this before the age of 30. Im gonna be drowning in stuff by 40. My wife says I should get rid of some of the old stuff. Ol' dusty and ol' obsoletey as my wife calls them. Naaaaaaaaaah

  87. Toshiba T1000 by Mr.+DOS · · Score: 1

    I have a Toshiba T1000, which would now be 21-22 years old. I have a lot of other old equipment, including a generic XT clone from the early 80's (so, about 25 years old) and its CGA monitor, oh, and my NES, which would be about the same age (although I'm not sure if consoles count in this discussion).

    The oldest networking equipment I have is probably a U.S. Robotics 56k modem that used X.2 or whatever they called it, not V90/V92. Wonderful modem - even if it does only connect at 28.8kbps now due to the fact nothing is using its native protocol, when using it, I had the fewer dropped connections than with any other modem.

          --- Mr. DOS

    1. Re:Toshiba T1000 by Telecommando · · Score: 1

      That reminds me, I've got a T3100e/40 stored somewhere. Gas plasma displays rock!

      It probably still has the interface card in it for an EEPROM programmer I designed, built and programmed for programming GE radio equipment. Those were the days...

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    2. Re:Toshiba T1000 by Mr.+DOS · · Score: 1

      That reminds me, I have a T3100e as well. I actually used it as a roundabout way for getting stuff onto the T1000 - the T1000 only had a 720KB floppy drive, and the floppy drive in my main machine at the time didn't like 720KB floppies (just 1.44MB ones), so I'd copy files from the 1.44MB floppy to the RAM disk on the 3100e, then put them onto a 720KB floppy (formatted on either the T1000 or T3100e) so the T1000 could read them.

      Alas, there's not a whole lot I can do with it, because the hard drive's dead. At some point, I should pull it open and see what sort of replacement it'd take. I got part if it apart once and I seem to remember the hard drive casing looking like it's a 3.5" drive, but I don't know what sort of interface it would be.

      I'll stop rambling now, shall I? ;)

            --- Mr. DOS

  88. I got this... by gEvil+(beta) · · Score: 2, Informative

    I got this abacus here that's at least a couple hundred years old. Amazingly, it still calculates just as well as it did when it was first made....

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    This guy's the limit!
  89. This just in! by cybereal · · Score: 1

    65 year old feet used to walk!

    10 year old bicycle used to ride!

    Wait, what's the significance of a modem, modulating and demodulating as it was originally intended?

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    I read the script, and I think it would help my character's motivation if he was on fire. -Bender
  90. 1916 I-Pod by JoeMerchant · · Score: 1

    I have inherited my Great Grandfather's Victrola - wind up spring to spin the 78RPM discs, friction lever to control the speed, pickup through replaceable sharp steel needles that drive a speaker plate that resonates out through a cabinet with a slide-door volume control. If you take it with you jogging you'll get a tremendous total body workout, though you might need more than an armband to carry it.

    Of course, it won't play modern media, but neither will your modern audio gear play the classic 78RPM cut of "Digga-digga-do".

  91. Wow! by wytten · · Score: 1

    They had 300 baud in 1964? Raise your hand if you were still using 110 baud in the 1970's.

    1. Re:Wow! by ebh · · Score: 1

      Me! 110 baud acoustic coupler, with the RS-232 port wired through a 20mA current-loop adapter to the ASR33 Teletype. We didn't have the fancy Teletype that had the phone and modem built in, but we did have paper tape!

      ObTopic: I have a working original Apple ][, and an Apple ][+ with the UCSD Pascal system (let's see you run Java in 64K of RAM!). What I appear to have misplaced is the original manual set.

  92. Backward Compatibility by fatp · · Score: 1

    It's nice to see computer equipment which is backward compatible to 45 years ago.
    The bad thing is that hardware and software for handling the data has very poor backward compatibility... I have piles of floppy disk, MD which I don't have any device to read. Hope that libraries, labs etc keeps the devices to read ancient tapes, disks or whatever.

  93. Electronic or Mechanical? by beadfulthings · · Score: 1

    If we're talking about mechanical stuff, I have a clock that dates back to before the Civil War. I have a 1957 model sewing machine I use whenever I need to sew something. I have a gold pocket watch given to a distant relative in 1916--he died in combat in France shortly thereafter. I have a fountain pen engraved with the year 1910 that still writes, and several that date back to the 1920's-1950's, all in working order. I have a Colt 25 caliber automatic pistol that seems to have been manufactured around 1914--called the "Vestpocket" pistol. My upright freezer was first purchased 32 years ago. All this stuff has been in the family, and the secret is that it's all been used and cared for.

    My oldest piece of working electronic equipment is a 1992 vintage Mac Duo Dock subnotebook.

    Take care of your stuff, and your stuff will take care of you.

    --
    "Here's what's happening. You're starting to drive like your Dad..." - Red Green
  94. I LOVE retrocomputing. And have a bunch of stuff! by deesvito · · Score: 2, Insightful

    So I have the following (it all works unless specified and I fire it up at least twice a year unless specified). And yes, my office looks like a train-wreck twice a year when I pull all this stuff out to keep it alive..

    2 Commodore 64s (one works, the other is for parts), and a Commodore 64C
    1 1541-II disk drive (works) and a bunch of software.
    1 Commodore 128 (Has a couple of broken keys on the numeric pad), and a 1571 disk drive
    1 Laser 128 (Apple II clone) with two drives. Works fine and I have a bunch of games and office type software to go with it.
    1 Amiga 500, the internal and two external drives (one pulled from an A1000 so it's very big. Another is an off-brand, very small and cool 3 1/2)
    1 Commodore Plus/4. Works great.
    1 Commodore Vic-20. Works great
    1 Commodore 16 which is unfortunately busted
    I have a serial modem (14.4) I use to hook up the Amiga to a PC. I cheat because it's actually just doing telnet, but it's cool to get on the web with Lynx by using a kermit terminal program (my Amiga software is so old that it doesn't have a TCP stack). At some point I started getting some public domain amiga tcp stack off ftp but I needed a hard drive to hold it all so I stopped (even emulation is better than the real thing when you don't have enough hardware).

    And of course I also keep a bunch of emulators on the modern machines so I can try things out and have interesting stuff to run (being able to run it on the actual hardware gives you a reason to want to pull it out). I love retrocomputing. In fact, that's how I plan on teaching programming to my kids. Yes, they'll use modern hardware too, but for programming I want them to see how there can be very little between you and the metal and you can still accomplish a bunch. All the layers of abstractions can actually make the basics (like why assembly is important and how you actually talk to hardware) a lot harder to understand. If all you have is a Commodore and you have to send commands to the drive to initialize the hardware, and you have to poke values in order to create a little assembly routine or change colors, it just makes it so much more *real*, and there's a lot less to explain of what's going on in the background. Since everything is an extrapolation of that pattern of thought anyway, I think it's better to start the understanding at that level.

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    - No Sig Today
  95. Oldest piece for me... by awshidahak · · Score: 1

    I have a first generation Sega Genesis. That's the oldest piece of working hardware. The oldest piece of hardware I have is a VideoWriter. Unfortunately the vertical fly on the display is bad so I'll have to try and fix that.

  96. Hmmmm by senorpoco · · Score: 1

    My liver.

  97. Dragon 64 anyone? by hoover · · Score: 1

    Oldest machine I have in working condition is a 64kb Dragon 64. Was a great little machine in its day, featuring multiuser / multitasking on a 6809E running OS/9 (yep, you could log in over a serial terminal ;-). Also featured a parallel floppy drive which put the C64's 1541 to shame.

    Great times, niche machine, died along with the rest. Manual claims it's from 1983, so a bit more than 25 years, I'd say.

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  98. A little earlier by fyngyrz · · Score: 1

    I still have working, fully loaded SS-50 bus machines from about 1982 with all kinds of cool cards in them like speech synthesizers, A/D and D/A, graphics cards, memory, etc. I wrote a lot of 6800 and 6809 assembly code back then... in 1994, I wrote a complete 6809 system emulation, including the OS from the time (6809 Flex) and emulation of an arcade graphics subsystem I designed so I'd always have a working "machine" to fool with my old code. Virtual disk drives, ports, timers, etc. Still runs great; I run it under XP, which runs under Parallels, which runs under OSX. :o)

    I also have a SOROC terminal and a paper tape reader, and a mint tiny BASIC on paper tape (for the 8080.) The first machine I had that I didn't actually build out of TTL was based on a National Semiconductor ISP-8000-8A SC/MP I got in 1976. I published an article about using the SC/MP as a Baudot printer driver with the SWTPC 6800 in the November 1977 issue of Kilobaud. My first published work, in fact.

    The first machine I ever owned I built out of TTL in... I think 1970... as there wasn't any other option at the time. A couple of 74181 ALUs in the middle, all manner of other stuff in there, register memory files.... Man, that was a wild nest of wires and sockets. The power supply was a nightmare. But I learned a lot doing it. You can't (or maybe you can) imagine how enthused I was when the 8080 and 6800 hit the market, and the downright euphoria I felt when the 6809 came out.

    I still think that the 6809 was one of the best designed MPUs ever from a programming standpoint. I can still write 6800 and 6809 opcodes straight to paper. Even fairly complex things like the 6809's LEA instructions. And calculate its 2's complement branch offsets more or less instantly. Now there's a chunk of neurons I'll never get back....

    I did some work for Centuri (an arcade game machine manufacturer) where I built them boards that would plug in where the 6502 was in their then-current hardware, and put a 6809 there instead. Just a few gates and some socket hardware, and goodbye 6502! Lord, I despised the 6502. What a bass-ackwards... nevermind. Then I wrote them a few graphics demos that left a few executives spitting coffee. Nothing like a hardware multiply (and the ability to do easy division by multiplying via a table of reciprocals) to step up from an MPU where the main claim to fame is bloody 8-bit role-reversed index registers...

    Oldest working non computer hardware I own is a console AM radio from the 1930s. It's even still mostly original... it'd almost certainly work better if I went in there and replaced a lot of components with their modern equivalents, but it's more interesting as is, and in fact it still works quite well. Doesn't complete with my current radio gear, but then again, the currents stuff doesn't have the charm of a polished wood cabinet, either.

    Darwin, I'm oooold. :o)

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    I've fallen off your lawn, and I can't get up.
    1. Re:A little earlier by rev_g33k_101 · · Score: 1

      I run it under XP, which runs under Parallels, which runs under OSX. :o)

      Which runs under........ Kevin Bacon!!!!!

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      "The problem with defending the purity of the English language is that English is about as pure as a cribhouse whore."
  99. My oldest working: TRS-80 Color Computer from 1980 by neuroklinik · · Score: 1

    The oldest working piece of electronic (I have slide rules that are older) gear I have is my first computer, a TRS-80 Color Computer 1 from 1980. 32K of RAM, and Microsoft Extended Color Basic. 300 baud modem, and cassette tape for data storage. Still works perfectly.

  100. Old equipment. by LoyalOpposition · · Score: 2, Interesting

    One of my friends came up with a Western Union teletype that still had some paper with their name along one edge. The paper was yellowed with age. The teletype used a 5-bit baudot code, which wikipedia says Western Union stopped using in 1950. We hacked a printer port into an Atari 800, and started putting out the baudot. We had plans to write things like "JAPAN BOMBS PEARL HARBOR!" or "DEWEY DEFEATS TRUMAN!" which would have looked wicked on the yellow Western Union paper, but we settled for writing things like "The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog." and "All good men come to the aid of their country."

    -Loyal

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    I aim to misbehave.
  101. TI 99 4a by notarockstar1979 · · Score: 1

    Learned TI Basic on it. Still works like a charm and I still break it out once in a great while when I'm feeling nostalgic. Still save to cassette tape when I use it.

    1. Re:TI 99 4a by Reapman · · Score: 1

      Ditto, nothing like a game of Parsac or Tunnels of Doom (including the 20 minutes of loading from cassette with noises loud enough we kept the door closed)

  102. DSL modem, circa 2000 by jfruhlinger · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It's not ludicrously old, but: my DSL modem died a few months ago (my own fault -- if it has air vents in it, they may actually be there for a reason, not just to look cool and futuristic). I went into a bit of a panic, because, really, where does one get a DSL modem, especially if one suddenly has no Internet access? I feared calling Verizon would result in long delays, pricey expenditures, and/or bafflement.

    Fortunately, a friend of mine up the street who I knew to be a bit of a tech hoarder still had his, even though he had switched to line-of-site wireless years ago. The modem was nearly 10 years old, and twice as big as the one I'd been using, but sure enough I just plugged it into my phone line and worked great -- same speeds I was getting with the old modem (2.8M down, 600K up). I was sort of shocked that something that old could just plug in to my current set up with no changes, but I suppose there haven't exactly been great strides in DSL technologies over the past decade or so.

    1. Re:DSL modem, circa 2000 by hurfy · · Score: 1

      I believe our Cisco 675 modem here at work has been on continuously ever since Nov 1997 :) My home 678 is getting close to 10 years in use. At least my 640K DSL is good for bragging rights...

      Our PBX for the telephone system has been running since about 1985 or so :) I even bought another on Ebay a few years back for our new office. 10 line phone system with 12 extensions = $200!

  103. Electrons by Unicorn+Setu · · Score: 1

    Every single one of the electrons in my Macbook has been around since the beginning of the universe. Beat that.

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    Unicorn Setu. "Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines".
  104. Baudot Teletypes? by jddj · · Score: 1

    It's a cheat, 'cause I don't have 'em any longer, but around the time I built my first computer (with a soldering iron...you kids...) a Sinclair ZX-81, I went looking for a printer.

    At the time, printers were maybe $1-2,000, and $1-2000 was a hell of a lot more money than it is now.

    I found 2 Baudot-code teletypes at the SC School for the Deaf, and they wanted something like $50 for the pair. I borrowed the van from the A/V company where I worked and lugged them back home, to the great disdain of my soon-to-be ex-wife.

    They were amazing pieces of gear - way ovebuilt, a lot of machined cast metal, huge synchronous motors, and a current-loop interface that I never did get around to interfacing with the ZX-81 (though I did get 'em to talk to each other).

    They were huge (think of large heavy desks full of dusty gear about 4-1/2 feet tall), and I dragged them around for a few years. A couple years after my divorce, I moved out of my parents' home and eventually they told me to get the things out of there. I called museums, couldn't get any takers, and though it broke my heart, I had to let the trashmen drag 'em off. Really a pity.

    I know someone would want them today. And I could interface them today (but for my very young child - takes all my time). And I still have the ZX-81.

    And Baudot, for those who don't know, is what you had before you had EBCDIC or ASCII. it was a 5-bit character code, with a control character that shifted the character set up, and shifted it back down to extend the characters it could communicate (think of the shift key on your keyboard as "push-on, push-again-off". Very, very steampunk...

    1. Re:Baudot Teletypes? by nsayer · · Score: 1

      We hams still can sometimes be found sending Baudot around over HF. I used to play with AMTOR just shy of 20 years ago.

      Nowadays I still play with digital HF, but it's with PSK31, which has its own, variable length character set.

  105. PONG! by FishAdmin · · Score: 1

    Oldest one I own that still functions is an original Atari PONG home console from 1976 (model C-100).

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    Last night I played a blank tape at full volume. The mime next door went nuts.
  106. older equipment... by ak_hepcat · · Score: 1

    I've got a very-much still working CIT-101e vt100 dumb green screen from 1983.

    Works great as the serial console to my embedded firewall.

    I don't fire up my Apple ][ (non-plus model) often, but I know that still works, and it's got a modem, cpm card, and maybe an integer basic card, but i can't remember. That's about 77-78

    I don't think i have anything anymore that breaks the 35-year mark, though.

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  107. Sinclair (Timex) Spectrum by ed · · Score: 1

    25 years old

    1. Re:Sinclair (Timex) Spectrum by Timtimes · · Score: 1

      Yeah, me too. My Timex-Sinclair 2068 was my upgrade path from the Timex Sinclair 1000. Enjoy.

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  108. Amiga 2000 to surf the web by roskakori · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I still have an Amiga 2000 standing around from 1989 with a 8 Mhz 68000 CPU and 7 MB RAM. Funny thing about it is that it can run the relatively modern AmigaOS 3.1, for which reasonably well working graphical web browsers exist. Occasionally I fire it for fun just to demonstrate that 80's hardware can show web pages in a semi decent way. Configure it to run on a 640x400 screen with 8 shades of grey and it still shows most of the modern web sites that have some sort of accessibility fall back. It can do tables and basic CSS, so in some cases the results are almost indistinguishable from what you see on a modern browser. Of course it is awfully slow and needs several seconds to render a medium sized PNG image.

    It's particular cool to show it too kids that think you need GHz's and GB's to surf the web.

    1. Re:Amiga 2000 to surf the web by luncheon · · Score: 1

      I still have my Amiga 500, with a 428Mb Seagate IDE HD and 12 Mb of RAM, complete with its external 3.5" Commodore Amiga 1011 floppy drive. It runs AmigaOS quite nicely as well. I DDed the HD into a file in my PC so now I can fully emulate this computer with UAE exactly as I had it back in '94. I've been using my Commodore 1084s PAL RGB 14" monitor with my PS2 with a special RGB adapter I built (very crisp image :). But this monitor died last month. I also have a C64c and C128 lying around, with a Commodore Datasette and Commodore 1571 5.25" drive.

  109. HP 15C by mce · · Score: 1

    Since the question only specifies "equipment" and not computer stuff in the understanding of today's whizkids, that would be my HP 15C calculator. I got that little gem in the autumn of 1983 or nearly 26 years ago. Amazingly, it is still only on it's second set of batteries (they are close to needing replacement, though). I love that calculator so much that, since about two years or so, I install a complete HP 15C emulator (including the looks) on every computer that I use. Nothing beats the real thing, however.

    1. Re:HP 15C by TheHawke · · Score: 1

      You are not logical HP 15C. Polish notation you are.

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      First rule of holes; When in one, stop digging.
  110. Rock by TheLink · · Score: 1

    How about rocks? They're useful for clue applications.

    And many of them are at least 6000 years old :).

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  111. In use, or not? by a9db0 · · Score: 1

    Hmmm...

    I've got two original IBM ATs - 10MB (yes Megabyte) hard drives, 512k of ram. But I don't use them.

    I've got a 486DX based server from the early 90's, but I finally shut it down a couple of years ago. Novell 4.12 on it, it ran flawlessly for over 10 years.

    I do, have a Compaq Prolinea 590. Mfg sometime in 1995, it is in daily use. It's my firewall.

    But oldest currently-in-use would probably be my 1993 IBM Model M keyboards. They'll never die.

    Then there's my 1980 ski boat, which still works beautifully, despite approaching it's 30th birthday.

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    -- "Never underestimate the power of human stupidity." - R.A.H.
  112. Apple II in closet by swheatle · · Score: 1

    With 16Kb memory expansion (up to 64Kb) with 80-column card and hard-hack for lower case letters. I think it just had its 30th birthday.

  113. Didn't have to use a text-based browser by Guspaz · · Score: 1

    Opera Mini does a good job at getting pages crunched down, and can be run on a desktop. You'd probably want to turn off images, and browse in mobile mode, but it'd probably be an acceptable experience. Figure 30-60 seconds to load a short page? It'd be compressed and text-only, although you're wasting bandwidth sending the HTML rather than with lynx where you just send the text.

  114. I still use... by Chees0rz · · Score: 0, Troll

    Your mom.

  115. Oldest full machine in regular use by Chazman · · Score: 1

    I've got a DNS server that's running on a Pentium-83 overdrive CPU in a 486/VLB mobo, with 32MB of RAM on 30-pin SIMMs. It connects to the network with a WD8013 10Mb Ethernet card, and 10base-2 cable. Disk? WD Caviar 340MB, baby. It's been serving DNS 24/7/365 for I can't even remember how many years straight (total downtime on the order of a day or two in several years), and still is doing so right now.

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    -----Chaz
  116. Ven-Tel 300 baud acoustic coupler by bessie · · Score: 1

    I had a Ven-Tel 300 baud acoustic coupler and a Lear-Seigler ADM3a terminal as my first bit of computer equipment. Don't know whatever happened to it - probably gave it all away.

    - Tim

  117. Undated, but yellowing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I still have slide rules I used in high school, which makes them some 35 or so years old. I also still have my CARDIAC from the early 1970s.

    They both still work perfectly.

  118. My oldest tech, a pinball machine. by rhpenguin · · Score: 1

    The oldest tech gear I use on a daily basis is the MPU board in my 1980 Stern Seawitch pinball machine. The serial number is quite low, so it was made in 1980 at some point and still works like the day it was made. It's received some TLC over the years, but.. rock solid reliable.

    Before that, my oldest tech would have been the MPU in my 1978 Stern Lectronamo. It's since been sold to make way for other machines.

    Check out Seawitch:
    http://ipdb.org/search.pl?searchtype=advanced&mpu=34#2089

  119. Ancient Floppy drive emulation by Maximum+Prophet · · Score: 1

    F.y.i. For those of you with H89s, TRS-80s or Apple II's that want to keep them working, this guy sells a virtual floppy drive that allows you to save disk images to a Windows or Linux machine and access them on you vintage machine.

    http://www.thesvd.com/SVD/

    I haven't used one yet, but when I find some time, I plan to hook one to my H89.

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  120. My NEC 3x Multi-Spin by mandark1967 · · Score: 1
    I am still using my NEC 3x Multi-Spin External (Parallel to SCSI) CDROM as a CD Player, which you can see at the link below.

    http://www.sixmoons.com/audioreviews/trends/hero_1_3.jpg

    Sixmoons did an audio review using it and here's an excerpt: "...Other than not having a remote control, this C$50 (shipping included) eBay item actually made a very competent top-loading CD player, probably the best in that price category. What I heard was perhaps a little direct and blatant -- not enough suavity and grace -- but it didn't rob me of music enjoyment. Vocals were arguably a little harsh and spicy but pianos were strikingly forceful, especially when I split up the output signals from the headphone jack with a Y-adapter and fed one pair of headphone-to-RCA cables to the paired Quest QS8II powered subwoofers. You'd probably notice from the photograph that the listening room was actually more of a TV room and therefore far from ideal. The speakers were spaced 10 feet apart, with a 46" DLP back-projection TV and two almost equally big cabinets in between. Yet, the TA-10 and the Quest had enough music to fill up the entire gap in the middle, voiding the void, projecting a soundstage right through and beyond the three bulky eye-soars and mental blocks as if they did not exist. When Alexandre Tharaud's inspired reading of Ravel's Mirrors [Harmonia Mundi HMC 901811.12] was played, the Steinway was there, literally 6 feet behind the TV. What about the pungency in the tone? Yes, the NEC is designed to read computer data at 3 x speed and the Quest is built for home theater. The sound they produce might be by audiophile standard a little too fast, too grainy and could be interpreted as stressed."

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  121. No, they paid monthly RENTAL FOR THE PHONE... by jeffb+(2.718) · · Score: 1

    ...not subscription or service fees. When AT&T broke up, they generously offered to let me buy the phone I'd been using for something like $20, rather than turning it in. I think I actually took them up on it, and still have the thing in a closet somewhere, complete with rotary dial and acoustic-coupler-compatible handset.

    1. Re:No, they paid monthly RENTAL FOR THE PHONE... by schmiddy · · Score: 1

      Wow. What an enormous difference. Paying a "service fee" instead of a "monthly rental fee". We uh.. sure have it great now, where we get to keep a crappy, locked-down-crippled phone after the 2 year contract is up, at which point you've paid well over $1,000 in service fees.

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    2. Re:No, they paid monthly RENTAL FOR THE PHONE... by petermgreen · · Score: 1

      Wow. What an enormous difference. Paying a "service fee" instead of a "monthly rental fee"
      Afaict the way phone service used to work (at least here in the UK and I get the impression it was pretty similar in the US) is you paid a rental for the line, a rental for each and every phone you had on that line (you weren't allowed to connect your own) and then paid for your calls on top of that.

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  122. Do consoles count? by rafemonkey · · Score: 1

    I have a Sega Master System I still play from time to time. It was released back in 1985, which makes it 24 years old. Mostly I play Fantasy Zone, one of the first "cute 'em ups" and Spellcaster, a strange hybrid of platformer and point and click adventure.

    As for computers, I have a Sony HB-75, which is from 1984. But I'm in the middle of repairing the keyboard (hard to find those microswitches these days). Mostly I use it for fun Basic programing and playing Hydlide, my one MSX cartridge.

  123. I just repaired my Western Digital phone by kalpol · · Score: 1

    Black rotary phone, 1952, still works on pulse dial (if you time it right, you can dial it with the switchhook). Didn't ring, but figured how to rewire it thanks to the Internet, now it RIIINNNGGSS when I get a call. I also have a Powerbook 140, with a working modem...i need to find a SCSI ethernet adapter and it will surf the net with Netscape 1.1. I have a Newton, too, I heard those were networkable. I have a TI-99/4a, I think it has a modem packed with it. I need to dig that out and see what it can do. Last but not least, Commodore VIC-20, and I know modems were made for those because it says so on the box but I haven't been able to track one down yet.

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    1. Re:I just repaired my Western Digital phone by clone53421 · · Score: 1

      if you time it right, you can dial it with the switchhook

      You can do that with touch-tone phones too (as long as the network supports pulse dialing, of course).

      I once built a little device somewhat resembling a phone receiver (no microphone). It consisted of a pushbutton switch, resistor, and speaker in series. When plugged in, you could dial (pulse) using the pushbutton, and the speaker faintly played whatever sound was coming in. (The first attempt, everything except the resistor, caused problems with the phone network, heh. We didn't have a dialtone for a couple of minutes after I plugged it in... oops.) Of course, it was only much good to call time and temperature, since you couldn't talk to the person you'd called. Although, I suppose you could prank-call people and they'd wonder why they got a dead line... that's more fun if they can hear you breathing, though, don't you think?

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  124. Wankers by nixdroid · · Score: 0

    I have a Sparc2 (circa 1990), it still works and I can't bring myself to throw it away. Better still, I connect to it with a DEC VT100. If you don't know what that is, check to see what your favorite text-only program emulates.

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  125. Old music tech by Bobb+Sledd · · Score: 1

    I have, and still currently use, a 1991 Ensoniq EPS 16+ 16-bit sampler with a SCSI interface. I have it connected to a SCSI ZIP drive on one side, and the other side of the ZIP drive is connected to my PC. I then use a piece of software that can read/write to the ZIP disk (and can do other disk-utilty things). This allows me to search the net for any given sound effect/instrument wav file, convert it into an EPS 16+ instrument, write it to the disk, and then load it into the EPS 16+ and play it on the keyboard.

    So I suppose I can say that it is connected to the Internet, in a small way.

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  126. My old equipment by qwertyatwork · · Score: 1

    I have an IDE card, a keyboard card, a mouse card, and a token ring adapter. I don't know how old they are, but the keyboard card keeps telling me to get off his lawn.

  127. Sliderule by Phreakiture · · Score: 1

    I have a sliderule. I don't know how old it is, but I can guess. My dad used it when he was in high school, and he would have been in the class of 1963, so it could be as old as 1958 or so, depending on what math classes he was taking. He is a math whiz, so it is conceivable that he was taking more advanced courses earlier than later.

    Related, I have a Monroe desk calculator that I do use every time I pay my bills. I don't know its age, but I would guess at around 1980 or so. It has a vacuum fluorescent display, and can run either on 4 C cells or a wall wart. It doesn't have a printer like many in that era, but it does use the accumulator approach to addition and subtraction.

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    1. Re:Sliderule by Bob+Gelumph · · Score: 1

      I've got a Monroe calculating machine, which if it had the right cable (and a serious check-up) would be electrically powered, but still works with the hand crank.
      As far as I can figure, it is from about 1941.

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  128. SWTPC 6800 by bored · · Score: 1

    I restored a Southwest Technical Products machine back in 1998 that is still running. That's from 1975 and is my oldest machine. I also have an Apple ][+ (1977) with a ProFile hard drive that I recently got working. That is from around 1981. Mine is a 5M version. I don't know the exact manufacturing date on the HD, I suspect that it was closer to 1983. I also have an old acoustic coupled modem. It doesn't work, but I will probably fix it at some point. My oldest PC is an old XT clone with a real 8086, from the late 80's.

  129. How about a Mac SE? by downhole · · Score: 1

    I still have a working Mac SE, vintage 1986 or so IIRC. It's running some variant of System 7. It works, but I can't think of much to do with it, so it's essentially a decoration in my living room. Originally came with 1mb ram, 20mb hard drive, and low-density 3.5in floppy drive and sports a 8mhz 68000 processor.

    FWIW, it has an Ethernet card which I think only supports 10baseT. I've tried to hook it up to my router, but MacTCP doesn't seem to support DHCP and I can't get anywhere giving it a manual address. I installed a floppy drive a while back that supports high-density and windows disks, but the only computer I have with a floppy drive runs Windows, so it's a big pain to get software onto it.

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  130. My house :P by Overfiend1976 · · Score: 1

    Was built in 1785 :P I know that's pretty low tech, but it's impressive considering how well this place has stood the test of time (in upstate New York with its endless blizzards), and now we've got modern half million to million dollar homes that are made with plywood and pressure treated boards and have problems from day one. Just more examples of how newer is so very often NOT better. http://www.oldversion.com/ For the win.

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  131. Mine is bigger! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have an grounding cable going from my computer to the Earth.

    That's makes it a 4.5 billion year old piece of equipment!

  132. No, I'm sorry... by joedoc · · Score: 1

    ...there is nothing "cool" about getting a 45-year-old chunk of hardware to "work" on your modern computer system. What would be "cool" would be to be able to actually browse a web site or download something larger than an SMS message. Otherwise, it's just another addition to the junk heap.

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    1. Re:No, I'm sorry... by SpinyNorman · · Score: 1

      Acoustic couplers weren't meant for browsing web site - they are from the era when the internet was the ARPAnet and HTTP and the web hadn't even been invented. Back then the "internet" was about archie/gopher/e-mail, etc - all text - which is why 300/1200 baud, was tolerable.

    2. Re:No, I'm sorry... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      300/1200 baud, was tolerable

      Damn you and your extra comma... taking up an extra 26.67ms of my time!

  133. Oldest piece of equipment? by ogdenk · · Score: 1

    The oldest piece of equipment I have that still actually works is a VAXstation 3100 m30 with a few modern SCSI drives w/ SCA adapters built in 1987 I think. I still fire it up once in a while. I have a couple serial terminals dangling off of it. Technically, as configured it's a VAXserver 3100. It has 16MB of RAM.

    It runs ULTRIX 4.4 and NetBSD 1.4.

    It's 22 years old. Still running strong. Still capable of running a modern version of BSD........slowly. I think it's clocked at around ~11mhz but the official speed rating is 2.8 VUPs. Clock rate is pretty meaningless anyway.

    I got rid of the other old crap years ago.

    1. Re:Oldest piece of equipment? by Bert64 · · Score: 1

      I have a VAXServer 3100, the actual server model (no video capability)...
      I did have a VAXStation 3100 as well and an original DEC monitor with seperate RGB cables, but it actually failed and was thrown away a year or so ago...
      It has Ultrix 4.4 installed on it's 200mb internal SCSI disk, I tried connecting larger disks but it wouldn't touch anything bigger than 2gb i think.
      I also have a DECStation, 3300 i believe, it runs the mips version of ultrix and osf/1 1.0

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  134. Play "Where in the [x] is Carmen Sandiego" on A-2 by Anonymous+Freak · · Score: 1

    I still occasionally play the various Carmen Sandiego games on my old Apple II. Just picked up sealed boxed copies of old early '80s arcade games for the Apple II, too. My daughter is just getting to the right age for some of these old games, and I can't wait to introduce her to LOGO. (I was six when I started out on LOGO on an Apple II+. The school had three of them in the library, and it was a special honor to get to use the computers.)

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  135. You can STILL rent a Bell System phone! by rickthewizkid · · Score: 2, Informative

    ...from a company that was spun off of AT&T back in 1984. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consumer_Phone_Services ...and yes, I still have one in my basement!

  136. Oldest Working? by Telecommando · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Computer related? ASR33 teletype (1965). I occasionally fire it up to show off my AIM-65 (1976).

    Audio equipment? 1958 Harmon Kardon Stereo Festival TA230. I play MP3's through it on a pair of Klipsch KG2s (1982). Still sounds great.

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  137. got an 1924 Philco radio I just restored by swschrad · · Score: 2, Interesting

    still working sporadically on a 1920s Kellogg oak wall phone, which still needs a network. got some working 00A, 01A, and D5A tubes, too.

    no really fusty computer hardware left, except a core board from an old posting/billing workstation by NCR from about 1964. 2K, no expansion possible.

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  138. Amiga by bryan1945 · · Score: 2, Informative

    A couple of years ago I fired up my old Amiga 1000. What's that, circa '84, '85? Nifty machine. Still have my Apple II+, but that's been in storage forever. Also have an original Macintosh, but no peripherals (was someone's paperweight). I powered it up, sounded like it was working, but no screen. Haven't got around to cracking it open to play with the innards. Oh, forgot the old Okidata dot matrix printer for the II+. Wonder if I could get that to work? I'll have to find it. Come to think of it, I don't think I've ever thrown out any computer equipment. Well, at least they eBay now!

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    1. Re:Amiga by unreadepitaph · · Score: 1

      BRB, playing Wings and Speed Ball II

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  139. I have a workstation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    On which I can run WorldWideWeb.

    That's *the* WorldWideWeb.

    A NeXT workstation is not as old as that modem is, but it is still a pretty cool piece of equipment.

  140. Pentium Pro by the+cleaner · · Score: 1

    My Gateway / Webserver / Fileserver is a Dual Pentium Pro running FreeBSD. I recently bought another of these machines (Compaq Proliant 2500r) for spare parts, because the voltage converter (VRM Modul Spare Part 225529-001) gave up. Again.

    I have no clue how old these systems are, but they sure look old. And big.

    I'll probably replace it with something more powerful, this year. Like a EeePC 700 or so...

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  141. Re:Impeach Obama: +1, PatRIOTic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I was unaware of any plans for 'preventative detention' here in the U.S., but I've heard of something similar in the U.K.

    I was entertained the other day watching CNN, they were debating waterboarding. The commenter asked the anchor if she'd enjoy being waterboarded 78 times, and she protested,

    "But I'm not an accused terrorist!"

    So...what exactly is an "accused terrorist"? Is terrorism actually a crime now, like manslaughter? In places subject to rule of law, we call someone accused of a crime either "a suspect", "a defendant", or "preparing to launch a libel suit." Even after being convicted by a jury of their peers, we still hold that murderers, rapists, and enemies of the people should not be subject to any cruel or unusual punishments. What makes someone exempt from any virtues and rights of common humanity, or of our own justice system, merely by being labelled as a terrorist? Surely to act thusly is a greater crime than any committed against us.

    So, too, with this 'preventative detention'. We do not need ways to harm or detain people that 'cannot be tried' by the courts. No one is above the reach of the law if he is guilty, and no one who is not guilty should ever fear punishment. These people must be either tried and found guilty, or allowed to go free. Accusing them of a crime that actually exists would be a good start.

  142. PDP-11 by LatencyKills · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I programmed a PDP-11 in graduate school to pull data from my vapor deposition rig. Circa 1975 or so. Gotta love those 8" floppy disks. I don't know about today, but four or five years ago I went back to my graduate lab for a visit, and there it was still chugging my code along. Why replace it if it ain't broke?

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    1. Re:PDP-11 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The savings in annual power costs would probably pay for something 100 times as powerful in a couple of years!

  143. Gillette Trac II Razor Handle by goldie89 · · Score: 1

    Used almost every day for the last 35 years.

  144. Oldest working machine by teknosapien · · Score: 1

    is a digital rainbow still runs and has an acoustic coupled modem - unfortunately I no longer have a land line to see if it will still connect. Lining the bottom of the box, where this is stored are logs from the W.E.L.L. and chats I had with Timothy Leary and other notable folk who were "tuned in" at that time. I don't miss the noise of the dot matrix printers but do like the never ending feed of green bar and the sexy squeal of the modem connecting

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  145. Sinclair ZX80 by backtick · · Score: 1

    Guess this puts my family in the computer era of 1981 or so. Yup, I'm a geek. It still works. Gave away the TI-99/4a, the C64, and the Original Nintendo, plus the Amiga, the Vic, the TRS80 model 1 and 2s, etc over the years, all working. The C64 is still in use by my boss for giggles for his kids :)

  146. I use my brain... by gestalt_n_pepper · · Score: 1

    ...which is 51 years old. A little out of date and throughput has suffered as the insulation on some of the wiring has frayed a bit. Input and output errors too have increased and don't get me started about those faulty peripherals!

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  147. My oldest gear by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    1972 TI 2500 Datamath : one of the first pocket calculator
    1974 HP 65 : first programmable pocket calculator
    1978 Digital Equipement Corporation VT100 hooked up to my Linux PC. Already surfed the web with Lynx on it and it's fast enough :)
    1979 Apple ][ europlus, still working great !

  148. Younger techie here... by NeoSkandranon · · Score: 1

    Original NES, and a Gameboy :)

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  149. Ancient laser! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have a 6 foot long HeNe laser from the 1970s. (It still works too)

    Spectra Physics 125A

    It was before they had laser classification so it doesn't even have warning labels!

  150. Oldies but goodies by jimofoz · · Score: 1

    I was listening to my Sony ICF-2001 (1981) radio last night. I still pull out my TRS Model 100 (1985) now and then. The readout's a little funky, but my first Casio calculator (1976) still works, and while very rarely used, my Sans & Streiffe slide rule (1969) hasn't dropped a bit yet. And my Vectrex video game (1981) still buzzes along just fine.

  151. My Betamax covers your VHS... I win! by KatchooNJ · · Score: 1

    I think I have that beat... I have a Betamax still. I honestly don't the the exact age... I should research it, though. I am reasonably confident it is from prior to 1991, though.

    The last time I used it, it still worked. It doesn't rewind anymore, though. (I guess the rewind motor is shot.) The seek-rewind works, so if you watch a movie, you have to seek-rewind for like 20 minutes to rewind the movie. lol

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  152. My old junk by PagosaSam · · Score: 1
    I have an Edison cylinder phonograph that still works. I also have a wire recorder and a Dictaphone page recorder.

    The page recorder uses 8.5x11 sheets of mag-tape wrapped around a drum which spins and the record/playback head follows a lag screw down the cylinder. Think about a lathe turning metal.

    My oldest computer; I gave to my brother. It is a Altair 8800b Turnkey. Came with 1K of RAM and 1K of PROM which contained the boot loader. Mine was real fancy and had a 4K memory card and you can load CP/M from tape. I gave it to my Bro because he used to work for MITS in Albuquerque.

    Now I feel older than dirt... Get off my lawn!

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  153. NeXT Cube w/ '030 motherboard upgrade by WillAdams · · Score: 1

    My wife's Mac SE is still running System 6.0.8 just fine too.

    And my mother-in-law gave me her Esterbrook fountain pen which she received as a graduation present in 1950 which works wonderfully, though I mostly use a Sheaffer Agio w/ custom ground 0.8mm italic nib (the 9312 medium italic for the Esterbrook is a bit wide for day-to-day use).

    And there's the Remington No. 4 .32 rimfire rolling block rifle which my father received in lieu of money from someone on his newspaper route when he was a boy during World War II --- made in 1898 or so.

    William

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  154. ASR-33 Teletype by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    110 baud. I had it logged into an AT&T 3B2-600 Unix system 20 years ago. The teletype's modem is a whole lot bigger - it fills the whole stand. PCs are little play-pretend toy computers. You guys bragging about your Tandys and Commodores are Johhny-come-latelys. There are still a lot of teletypes around. \DON'T \FORGET TO \ESCAPE \YOUR \C\A\P\S!

  155. Micromoog by FatalTourist · · Score: 1

    Micromoog synthesizer from the late 70's is the oldest piece of gear that I actually use.

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    1. Re:Micromoog by ttybeast · · Score: 1

      My 1947 Knight 93-191 Tube Amplifier is the oldest piece of gear I use daily.

  156. Sears model Atari 2600 Heavy-Sixer by KatchooNJ · · Score: 1

    SMS is pretty old... cool that yours still works! :-) I have a few old consoles too... I even still have my Atari 2600 (Sears model heavy-sixer) and it still works just fine! I think it is 30-31 years old, since it was purchased in 1978.

    I also have an old Pong game that is actually older, but I forget who made it. I will have to pull it out someday to check it out again. It worked the last time I tried it, btw.

    I used to have a Fairchild Channel-F, which is also older than the 2600... It was the first console to use cartridges. I wish I still had that thing. lol

    The oldest computer I have is a Commodore Vic-20 from 1981, I believe. Still works too! :-D

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  157. "Yo..this is 'insanely great,' it's got a 300 baud by ack_call · · Score: 1

    Kind of reminds me of the film 'Hackers' and the line by Phreak:

    "Yo...this is 'insanely great,' it's got a 28.8 kbps modem!"
    Wonder what Phreak would have made of this?

  158. My /. account by BluBrick · · Score: 1

    'nuff said! ('though it was tempting to post as AC)

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  159. Glass TTY by evilviper · · Score: 1

    I'm amazed at the mundane responses so far...

    My QVT and Wyse terminals date from the 70s. I still routinely pull out one of them when I want a second screen on a system. Simpler and cheaper than a second monitor, with a surprising amount of utility these days. EVERYTHING still uses a serial port for I/O. There are numerous times I've had an ancient terminal under-arm as I've walked into the server room... Even the fastest laptops can't compete with the durability and instant-on of an old terminal.

    As serial ports begin to diappear from laptops, and only ONE is available on most modern PCs rather than the two of old, I've long thought we are over-due for some other standard to develop for headless comms. USB seems a likely candidate, but nobody has even begun to push such a standard as of yet. And with higher-speed buses comes the (also long overdue) possibility of directly connected GUI terminal standards, which would offer extremely cheap multi-user access to a single system, and finally make management of Windows servers tolerable.

    But I digress. My 8-bit, 1200baud dial-up modem in my 286 feels far more antiquated than my terminals, but even there, there are unexpected benefits, like extremely fast and very reliable call-setup in just a couple seconds, rather than 30 seconds of wirrrr-graaaahhhh-zzeeeee-buzzz-beep and a roulette game to see what speed you end up getting.

    I'm sure there's plenty of people here with old dot matrix printers, if not TTYs that make my equipment look young... Even a Edison-era stock-ticker probably qualifies, since early (~50 char, all-caps) TTYs copied their line signaling standard.

    Come on... Enough of the lightweights... Let's hear from the guys around here that have the really old computer equipment.

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    1. Re:Glass TTY by petermgreen · · Score: 1

      As serial ports begin to diappear from laptops, and only ONE is available on most modern PCs rather than the two of old, I've long thought we are over-due for some other standard to develop for headless comms.
      Of the vaious applications for serial ports terminal emulation is one of the most ameniable to USB to serial converters since it doesn't require any precise timing and just generally deals in two streams of data in opposite directions.

      Some kit (e.g. the sheevaplug) even puts the USB to serial chip inside the device.

      The great thing about serial ports as console ports go is they are simple to drive. That means they can be activated very early in the boot process without needing complex dedicated hardware.

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    2. Re:Glass TTY by evilviper · · Score: 1

      The great thing about serial ports as console ports go is they are simple to drive. That means they can be activated very early in the boot process without needing complex dedicated hardware.

      USB ports, from the very beginning, were already enabled extremely early in the boot process... If that were not the case, your USB keyboard would be utterly worthless.

      Similarly, bootable USB Floppies, CDs, HDDs, etc, are supported by every recent BIOS. And, obviously, if you can load up a USB to serial converter, it's far cheaper, easier, and more featureful, to instead use USB native protocols for such communications.

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  160. Use Open Transport. by cmholm · · Score: 1

    I haven't played with MacTCP in at least 10 years, and never on my local network. When I haul out an old powerbook loaded with Open Transport, DHCP over Cat5 and 802.11b work fine. This guy shows how to get your ethernet'ed-model online with DSL by using Open Transport and OS 7.6.1, which would get you linked on your local network as well.

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  161. My calculator by wired_parrot · · Score: 1

    I've had it for 25 years now, used it through high school to university to work and it still sits on my desk at work, its solar cells going strong, helping me at work from time to time.

  162. Epson 8088 by LeftNose · · Score: 1

    I have an Epson 8088 with a 20MB hard drive and CGA graphics. I'm pretty sure its modem is 2400 baud but that was a latter addition. It still makes an excellent Frogger machine.

    I would have to think it's about 20 years old but it was a gift from my parents to my sister and me for Christmas and I have no recollection of what year that was.

  163. Atari ST, but can't get Ethernet for it by Sleepy · · Score: 1

    I've had older (Atari 1200XL 64K w/300 baud modem), but I still have a pristine Atari 520ST 1MB with a 19.2K modem.

    I know I can get the ST on the 'net using a SLIP or PLIP route (hosted off a Linux box), but what I really want for it is an Ethernet adapter, but I can't find one. There's a myriad of dead-link ST hardware pages, but no clear path as to what hardware and software can be used.

  164. Re:"Yo..this is 'insanely great,' it's got a 300 b by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Yo..this is 'insanely shite,' it's got a 300 baud modem"

  165. DECtalk speech synthesizer by SpinyNorman · · Score: 1

    The oldest thing I still use is a DECtalk speech synthesizer dating to 1984.

    It's a huge VCR-size box with a 68000 (a giant 3" long DIP chip) based board inside that converts text coming in on a serial port (DB-25) to speech. It also supports phoneme input and is flexible enough that it can do a passable job of singing. It can also connect to a phone and answer calls, response to DTMF touch tones, etc, if you want it to - you can use it to create touch tone driven voice response systems.

    This was one of the first commercial speech synthesizers, and was based on years of research done at MIT.

    Unlike most modern speech synthesizers that basically concatenate small human speech snippets to create their output, the DECtalk is what is called a formant synthesizer - it simulates the human speech generation process whereby the sound produced by the vocal chords is shaped by the resonant frequencies (aka formants) of the mouth. It's a much more flexible approach - seeing as your controlling the speech generation process, you can programatically create new voice, create your own intonation, make it sing, etc.

    I've also got a couple of c. 1977 Processor Technology Sol-20 computers (an old S-100 bus 8080-based computer, with wooden side panels!), complete with their 8" floppy drive subsystem, at home collecting dust - not sure if they still work or not.

  166. Stereo equipment? by againjj · · Score: 1

    When I was a kid, in the mid 80's we got a stereo cabinet containing a stereo and turntable which looked 5-10 years old. We still have it, and it works, though it is not in active use. So, thirty years?

  167. tahyk by tahyk · · Score: 1

    My B-52 (strategic bomber) still works and was built in the 50s. :-) But generally military stuff is not planned for 5 years, even if it uses high tech electrical components, which became quite obsolate in 10-20 years.

  168. Survivorship Bias.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ..don't forget about it. Plenty of crap has been made by humanity since Grog first hacked a sharp point onto the end of a stick. Only the well-built stuff is treasured and squirelled away.

    Anecdote; How many of you have / know someone who has an antique firearm? "Still fires!", "Feel that action, smooth as ever", "Look at the expert tooling on the barrel" are things you hear, not "Was garbage when new, jammed every third shot, came rusted from factory, looked like something to scrape out chamber pots".

    I'll bet dollars to doughnuts there was a Soviet equivalent of this acoustic modem that was junk, and has been completely forgotten.

  169. Digital Multia/UDB and Sharp PC-1251 by lalleglad · · Score: 1

    The Sharp is actually a Pocket Calculator, though it has a 24KB ROM with BASIC in it, and a qwerty keyboard with little calculator buttons. It was fun to learn on, but the one line LCD display got a little boring in the end.

    Otherwise, I am very proud of my still working mail-server, which is a Digital Multia with an AXP21066 CPU, which is the smallest 64bit CPU ever made, fully loaded RAM (128MB) and a (now rather small, but still fine and working) SCSI disk:

    $ cat /proc/cpuinfo
    cpu                     : Alpha
    cpu model               : LCA4
    cpu variation           : -4294967301
    cpu revision            : 0
    cpu serial number       : Linux_is_Great!
    system type             : Noname
    system variation        : 0
    system revision         : 0
    system serial number    : MILO-2.2-17
    cycle frequency [Hz]    : 166629900
    timer frequency [Hz]    : 1024.00
    page size [bytes]       : 8192
    phys. address bits      : 34
    max. addr. space #      : 63
    BogoMIPS                : 323.24
    kernel unaligned acc    : 0 (pc=0,va=0)
    user unaligned acc      : 0 (pc=0,va=0)
    platform string         : N/A
    cpus detected           : 0
    $ cat /proc/meminfo
            total:    used:    free:  shared: buffers:  cached:
    Mem:  129015808 126205952  2809856        0  2613248 13729792
    Swap: 269467648  7520256 261947392
    MemTotal:       125992 kB
    MemFree:          2744 kB
    MemShared:           0 kB
    Buffers:          2552 kB
    Cached:          12344 kB
    SwapCached:       1064 kB
    Active:           4744 kB
    Inactive:        11240 kB
    HighTotal:           0 kB
    HighFree:            0 kB
    LowTotal:       125992 kB
    LowFree:          2744 kB
    SwapTotal:      263152 kB
    SwapFree:       255808 kB
    $ df
    Filesystem           1k-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on
    /dev/sda3             17213849  10246172   6085553  63% /
    /dev/sda1                52088       564     51524   2% /dos

    I believe the date on the motherboard is 1994 and the BIOS says 1995, with an option of loading Windows NT :-)
    I don't really remember, and I don't like to boot it, because the mobo-battery (for the BIOS) is not good anymore and it is only barely that I can remember to boot it.

    It is however, the most stable system I have ever had, and a few Intel/AMD based PC systems have come and gone in the mean time.

    As far as I remember, Slashdot originally ran on a similar platform?

    I, and quite a few friends and colleagues cried a few tears when Compaq bought Digital, and a few more when AXP was discontinued!
    Not that I am a fan of VMS, but it was sort of fun to play with, in its own archaic way. Sort of like the fun of trying to sleep next to a hungry tiger ;-)

  170. I still have a 110 baud modem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But then, back in my day, we wired our boards ourselves and even soldered the LEDs.

  171. Old School Tech by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have a rock that's a couple of billion years old.

    Still trying to find an interface for the rock. For now, it's merely a handheld device.

  172. my killer ancient "console" by ILuvRamen · · Score: 1

    This thing has to be faster than an N64 and I rigged it up to play one game and one game only so now it's a console lol. But it's an AMD K6-2 machine at like 450MHz. I bumped it up from 64 MB of ram to 192 and put an ATI Radeon 7000 PCI graphics card in it so it can just barely play Stepmania, a knock off of Dance Dance Revolution. It runs Windows ME cuz I needed that for the PS2 to USB dance pad adapter drivers to for sure work. Also it wasn't fast enough for Ubuntu lol. The first thing I did when I got it was see that it had a PCI network card and I was like "yeah, I don't think so" and took that out so there's no way the winner of the DDR competition in October will try and connect it to the internet after they get it home. It's an old HP compaq case with the wavy, bulgy front that looks kinda neat once you paint it red and the body black and with. It seriously looks like an alienware now lol. People will ahve no idea what they're getting but it looks cool! Well as long as all they do is boot up and open Stepmania, they're fine :D Pretty neat, huh? Especially since I got it for free. btw I also got a $10 monstrous CRT monitor at a rummage sale and gave it and some small speakers the same black and red paint job so the whole set looks like it costs $2000 instead of about $40 lol.

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    1. Re:my killer ancient "console" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      As a linguist, I'm curious; what language has your post been translated from?

  173. Windows? by Jake+Griffin · · Score: 1

    I'm running Windows Vista on my work computer, and I hear Vista still has some code errors involving dates that goes back to Windows 3.1 because they wanted it to be "compatible." Maintaining bugs for the sake of compatibility. Leave it to MS. So, it's not hardware, but I'm running 17 yr old software (Win 3.1 was from 1992). :)

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  174. Comptometer - Century Old Mechanical Calculator by SloppyElvis · · Score: 1

    I have an early wooden Comptometer produced some time during 1887-1903. Still works. Amazing piece of engineering.

    http://members.cruzio.com/~vagabond/Models.html

  175. TI SR50 calculator.. DEC MVAX.. PDP-11's.. C pgms by neurocutie · · Score: 1

    Aside from stereo equipment (I have some old Dynaco speakers and a Dual turntable, for example), the oldest piece of electronic equipment that I regularly use is probably my TI SR50 scientific calculator, which I bought new in college in 1974 for $125.

    I also regularly use several DEC MicroVAX systems, circa 1988. I have some working DEC PDP-11 cards, but I don't really use them.

    I also have some C programs that I wrote around 1976 that I still use...

  176. Oldest Car Amplifers in Use by Timtimes · · Score: 1

    I'm claiming that I have the oldest operational car amplifiers until I find somebody who can best me. Two Kenwood power amps. Circa late 70's, early 80's. Model# KAC-7020 and KAC-8200 Details: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1111037 Enjoy.

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  177. Does software count? by noahm · · Score: 1

    I've got an ITS system that I occasionally fire up in an emulator if I'm feeling really retro. I don't actually use it for anything, though.

    There are a number of people at my workplace who still use their old Symbolics LISP Machines on a daily basis. They swear that there has never been a better development environment, and that it's really a tragedy that lispms failed in the marketplace.

    noah

  178. I have a working Commodore 64K. by VShael · · Score: 1

    Though I can't get online with it.
    The tapes that are still in the box with it (Trivial Pursuit and The Last Samurai) don't work either.
    But the machine works when plugged in, and you can still code basic on it.

  179. Well you didn't specify electronic by mrmeval · · Score: 1

    I have a working 1888 Commission Rifle. I have a nonworking one that's getting steampunked. I also have a working 5.25" floppy drive 80s vintage. It came in some sort of external box with full sized 50 pin D connector.

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  180. I'll be starting a museum RSN.... by macraig · · Score: 1

    I have a few oldies:

    • Iomega Bernoulli 90 drives and cartridges;
    • 80486 motherboards with VESA Local Bus;
    • original Microsoft serial mouse, with textured solid steel ball and movable steel ball bearings where we normally expect Teflon sliders now;
    • Microsoft MS-DOS v1.1 diskette;
    • ... and I'm sure there's more.

    I had a Sinclair QL, too, but sadly I chose to sell it to another geek coworker at Quarterdeck back around '93. I regret not keeping that one!

  181. I have a FASIT C1-13 Mechanical Calculators by agge · · Score: 1

    I have an old FASIT Mechanical Calculators that was made in 1967. My dad found it recently cleaning up at a relatives home and gave it to me and I got it working.

  182. 1972 Buick by kooganani · · Score: 1

    I'm not sure if this counts, but I once fixed a Commodore 64 with a fuse from a 1972 Buick Electra. The C64 has a big automotive-style fuse holder right there in the middle of the motherboard.

  183. CPM Card for the Apple IIe made by Microsoft by Jemm · · Score: 1

    I still have a CPM card for the Apple IIe made by a little company known as Microsoft. The logo on the manual is nothing like the normal Microsoft logo that we all now know.

    1. Re:CPM Card for the Apple IIe made by Microsoft by Telecommando · · Score: 1

      Does it still work?

      Mine kept getting stuck in some mode that caused the processor to overheat and start smoking. I must have replaced it 5 times before I gave up.

      I've never trusted Microsoft hardware ever since.

      And I'm not too keen on their software, either.

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    2. Re:CPM Card for the Apple IIe made by Microsoft by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You fried 5 cards, and you're blaming it on faultiness of the cards?

      Makes me want to go test the forks in my kitchen utensil drawer by sticking them into electrical outlets...

  184. 5.25" Floppy drive by Amazing+Quantum+Man · · Score: 1

    I have a system with a 5.25" floppy drive from 1988 (21 years). It's the last remaining piece of my first PC. I kept it around because, for years, it allowed me to maintain the fiction that I was "upgrading" the original computer.

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  185. What to do with old stuff? by E_Block · · Score: 1

    I'll piggy back on this topic to ask Slashdot what I should do with some old equipment that I can't hold on to anymore... I have an Osborne Portable 1, Commie 64, TRS-80 Model 100 (with acoustic coupler), and more. I don't want to trash it, but it's not doing anyone any good sitting in storage. Any ideas?

    1. Re:What to do with old stuff? by kalpol · · Score: 1

      Maybe Slashdot should start a used tech market...like Ebay used to be in 1998 or so. God knows this place would be a gold mine of cool junk.

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  186. c1984 - Commodore 64 by jekewa · · Score: 1

    My Commodore 64 and Amiga 500 are still functioning, 'though not pulled out of the garage in a while. So I've got mid-1980s tech. Got an old Apple Mac II out there, too, but I think that was from later in the '80s or early '90s...got it second-hand.

    My favorite cell phone is still in the basement, but no carriers around here support the original Motorola brick. Got mine about 1991-92. Sweet 9-number memory, and one-line 10-digit display!

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  187. mod parent up by zokier · · Score: 1

    Awesome anyways, but the system isn't really connected to teh intertubes, no ip-packets are routed to the laptop.

  188. Calculator by MadUndergrad · · Score: 1

    I've got an old 1979 TI-36 around somewhere. Still works, but very very slowly.

    1. Re:Calculator by JackassJedi · · Score: 1

      I've got a TI-53-III with an LED 8-digit display in (almost) mint condition, I say almost because I lost the battery lid, but other than that, it's perfect.

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    2. Re:Calculator by the_rajah · · Score: 1

      I've got a working TI-2500 Datamath, the version with the 3 separate internal circuit boards and the very rare TI-150 handheld with the 0.2 inch plasma display. I was an Engineer in the calculator division from 1972 to 1975.

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    3. Re:Calculator by JackassJedi · · Score: 1

      TI-51-III, sorry! Typo!

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  189. Oldest Working Equipment I Have - 1953 by Rubinstien · · Score: 1

    I have a 1953 "Sargeant" television set that still works. The tubes are a bit gassy, the picture a bit bluish-white. I quit turning it on about 8 years ago, because the conductive coating on the outside of the picture tube is coming loose, and parts of it pop off when the tube powers up. You used to be able to buy an aerosol spray to recoat the tube (made by CRC, IIRC), but I can't find it available anymore. I so want to hook it up to a digital converter box though.

  190. the classic TRS-80 by Danzigism · · Score: 1

    that is awesome that this guy got that modem to work. I find it kind of fascinating too that something as fast as a 300 baud modem was around 40+ years ago. People were using 300 bauds in the early 80's and I'm sure were blown away when 1200, 2400, 4800, and 9600 bauds came out. I'd have to say that my oldest machine is a TRS-80 Model III that I bought at local band-boosters auction. All the participants laughed at it and of course nobody bid on it except me. Cost me only a buck, and it came with all the original documentation including a great book on TRS-BASIC. It plays Asteroids, some old Pinball game, and it still works like a dream.

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  191. Sinclair ZX80 circa 1981 by GumphMaster · · Score: 1

    In the computing line the oldest working piece I have is a Sinclair ZX80 circa 1981. Still working, but I have had to replace the Z-80 CPU on one occasion.

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  192. 2 Apple IIs by randmcnatt · · Score: 1

    The both still boot, except the one with 5.25in floppy drives attached always wants me to insert a system disk.

  193. heh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've got 2 Amiga 3000 desktops ca. 1991 which are two of the six networked computers in my house.

    I also have an A500, an A2000, a CD32, 2 Apple IIes, a Timex Sinclair 1000, some old early Pentium/II/Pro boxes, and even a 486 box. Most of that stuff is in boxes -- still all works though.

    The A3000s are more dependable than any machine I've purchased since. Slow by today's standards *for some operations*, but dependable.

    Well, you asked :)

  194. Hallicrafter S11 by Sanat · · Score: 1

    My oldest electronic device is my 1937 Hallicrafter S11 Super Skyrider shortwave receiver.

    I bought it used from a college professor's wife (he died) at Ohio Northern University (Ada, Ohio) in 1954 or 1955.

    Nice in the winter for keeping a room toasty as the tubes do get warm and they give off a lovely glow.

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  195. It's the thing... by The+Pirou · · Score: 1

    And the whole of the thing.

    This however does not properly relate the 1 meg ram modules I've had stashed in a plastic tote since '91 to the current hardware situated in the same tower I was using back then. Maybe if I pulled out a slower processor and a floppy drive I'd be able to use quarterdeck Mosaic again. Take THAT Google Chrome!

  196. Intellivision by argent · · Score: 1

    Well, I suspect the oldest device is the air conditioner in my 40 year old house. :)

    The oldest computer related gadget I have is probably an Intellivision, since I had to get rid of my PDP-11. :(

  197. Ok I'll play. by sparkeyjames · · Score: 1

    I have a Commodore 64 that still works. Also an Amiga 1000 and an Amiga 2000 in working order. All three are currently in storage in my garage. The place were I work has a Intel 286 or 386 (not sure which) server running a custom pricing program under some ancient version of Novell Netware. It has a 25MB (yes megabyte) RLL 5.25 inch hard drive in it and token ring through a coax to a satellite driveless workstation which loads up the OS from the server and runs the pricing program remotely. Runs every day.

  198. my old stuff by cstacy · · Score: 1

    Let's see, I have an original Macintosh that still boots, a TRS-80 circa 1977 that I think works (but haven't tried it lately), and an H19 terminal (kit) circa 1979 that I still actually use as the console for one of my DEC Alpha computers. I also have a prototype (wire wrapped) Lisp Machine circa 1980 from when I worked at the AI Lab; this was running fine when I last turned it off about 12 years ago, but I would have to do serious maintenance on it (mostly on the disk drive) before attempting to run that one again, for fear of destroying something. I also have some Symbolics machines from the late 80s that probably work. I think I lost the bare 3x1" circuit board and alligator clips 300 baud modem that I originally used on the H19.

  199. Northgate Keyboards, Baby! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have 4 Northgate keyboards, circa 1990-1992. They weigh 5 pounds, have clicky keys, and are built like tanks. I can pound away on these keyboards all day (I'm a fast touch typist), and as long as I can keep them interfaced with current and future PC technology, I will never use another type of keyboard.

  200. Technical nit-pick. by dannycim · · Score: 1

    Little nit-pick: The guy in the vid says that the tones are interrupted to represent data. This is wrong, the tone actually switches frequency. It's called Frequency Shift Keying.

    See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_103_modem

  201. old? Pah! by BigBadBus · · Score: 1
    I am using a barely two year old laptop with all the contemporary specs.

    Thing is, running Vista, with its sluggishness and lack of response, it feels 50+ years old.

    1. Re:old? Pah! by professorflipwig · · Score: 1

      That happened to me when my new Vista laptop was two months old! Then I installed Linux. Now, it is fast while running Compiz Fusion with all windows semitransparent and having a million applets in the panels! Vista took at least five minutes to open the file manager...

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  202. Is it wrong... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    To have an operating computer that is almost as old & heavy as you are? What might I be referring to? The Altos 8000 series... Manufactured in 1978 this bad boy is a workout in itself when you go to move it. I learned BASIC & COBOL on this thing when I was a kid. I'll have to get the thing out of storage and play with it again. It's been a handful of years.

  203. My old stuff by spaceyhackerlady · · Score: 1

    Computer stuff: a couple of Sun Ultra 5 workstations. It's not that long ago that I ditched my IBM PS/2-25, bought brand new in 1987. While it was useless for anything real by then, it lived on for a long time running cross-assemblers for PIC microcontrollers.

    Other tech stuff: Collins 51J-4 radio, circa 1957 (low serial number). Works. Various Kodak cameras, mid-1930s. They work too.

    ...laura

  204. re: oldest piece of equipment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have an original Star Wars Stand up arcade game from 1983; with the manuals and schematics. Still works!

  205. I've got an Oscilloscope that's about as old.... by airbatica · · Score: 1

    Tektronix 453, serial 13084. No idea on the date (1960ish), but its a beauty of analog engineering. I use it to troubleshoot my basket case 7603, which is gathering dust waiting for me to get around to cleaning off the work bench. I don't use it for anything that requires exact measurement, as it tends to drift quite a bit.

  206. 70+ year old voltmeters... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    About 10 years ago I worked in a shipyard as a test electrician. We had the old Simpson multimeters that were built into their wooden cases. Some of them were manufactured in 1925. We would hook one up to each phase of the supply going to a switchgear and take periodic readings. They handled the high temperatures in the bowels of the ship much better than the newfangled digital thingies. You also had instant deflection of the needle if something spiked or dropped, whereas digital meters take time to autorange.

  207. Acorn System 1 by mustafap · · Score: 1

    Still works, but up in the attic. I built in 1978. So nowhere near a device purchased 1 year before I was even born. Wow.

    I'm still looking for a PDP-8, if anyone wants to part with one for next to nothing.

    Wont swap it for the Acorn though, I love that to bits.

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  208. Seymour Cray and the common telephone by Nefarious+Wheel · · Score: 2, Interesting

    An old friend of mine, the late Bob Long (W6QBN) once spoke of an incident when he was a tech at CDC many years ago. "Seymour hated phones" he said. One day he came to visit the Arbor Vitae Cybernet site in Los Angeles and everyone carefully removed all the telephones that would be in his path.

    Unfortunately, one phone was overlooked, a hand set in the corner of the room that was dedicated to the use of just such an acoustic coupler. Murphy being an employee of the installation, the phone rang just as he walked through while talking to a couple of colleagues. Seymour ripped it out of the wall, opened a window and threw it out. "He didn't change his stride or even comment on it."

    Ahh, acoustic couplers -- remember whistling into the phone and getting one to send an ack?

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  209. How about 1988? by Mycroft_514 · · Score: 1

    Toshiba T1200 Laptop - DOS 3.3, 640K memory, 20MB hard drive, 1200 baud modem (that was an option), monochrome screen. My first
    laptop and it still ran last time I fired it up - last year. Everything older then that went to the public schools at some point.

  210. 300 baud acooustic coupled by Tired+and+Emotional · · Score: 1
    I am surprised this will work with a modern phone handset. They were always very sensitive to noise and a poor fit on the cups just made that worse.

    I wonder if you can still get thermal paper for a silent 700?

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  211. Oldest from 1959... by Kazoo+the+Clown · · Score: 1

    My oldest piece of gear used to be an LGP-30 vacuum tube computer from about 1959. I eventually gave it away because I didn't have the room for it, and never actually got it completely working (they were notorious for scratches on the drum by the heads if you turned it on too soon after you turned it off). Now, my oldest is a 1976 IMSAI w/floppy that I soldered together myself (and is still working, though finicky), and an IBM 5110 BASIC/APL. Will eBay the IMSAI one of these days when I get around to it. I also have several Atari 400s, 800s & Amigas, and an old Mac or two.

    I'd just about kill for an original IBM 2741 terminal w/APL keyboard though.

  212. Classic Late Stone Age Artifact by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Slightly tattered but still working Sinclair ZX80 from 1981. No tapes with programs for it and I can't remember how to program it any more - but it still works!!

  213. Netronics Elf II by inicom · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I still have my Netronics Elf II computer - the first one I owned. RCA 1802 processor, Hex keypad, 2 7-digit LED display!

    I no longer have the OSI C2P that was my second computer, or the thermal printer/terminal with APL keyboard and integral 300 baud acoustic modem I used throughout college. I even had a beautiful ADM3A terminal for while.

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  214. phoney by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My cellphone is 10 years old

  215. How does it sync? by schweini · · Score: 1

    I am assuming that it's a 'regular' modem answering the call on the other side - could somebidy explain to me how the two can handshake and sync, then? I always thought that the handshake/syncing part would at least require a bit of 'intelligence' from the modems involved?

  216. My HPLJ II still works by walterbyrd · · Score: 1

    I stopped using it, only recently. It jams too often. But, for a $25 cartridge, I was able to print for years. I could probably fix the jamming, but it's probably not worth it.

    I once read that hp considered their HPLJ IIs and IIIs to be big mistakes, because they lasted too long.

  217. I have a 4th generation iPod by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And it still works! This 4th generation iPod has black and white screen that can't even show pictures.

    And it's strange. When it starts to play songs, it makes a little vibration-noise like there's a motor going inside of it.

    Still, it's amazing - you can play music on it. My Dad showed me that it had songs called "Disco" on it. There are songs from some group called the Begees - really weird stuff that is from a history book.

        I think the songs may be even older than the 4th generation iPod. Hard to believe that the iTouch came from something as clunky as this.

  218. Re:I LOVE retrocomputing. And have a bunch of stuf by turing_m · · Score: 1

    If all you have is a Commodore and you have to send commands to the drive to initialize the hardware, and you have to poke values in order to create a little assembly routine or change colors, it just makes it so much more *real*, and there's a lot less to explain of what's going on in the background. Since everything is an extrapolation of that pattern of thought anyway, I think it's better to start the understanding at that level.

    I also like the idea of using that old hardware, or at least, starting on using something where you can easily prod at the "guts" of the device. It might be just as easy to whack some version of Linux or BSD on an old PC. But I think it's useful to get them exposed to the idea that there is more than one way to do things. An old Mac, an old Commodore, Linux, a Dos box... maybe even Windows.

    The biggest asset a kid has is lots of time and a clean slate (they don't come pre-addicted to windows). The biggest danger is that they will get sucked into something very addictive and never be able to addict themselves to something that will earn themselves a living. I think it would be to their advantage to feel most at home with the Unix paradigm - I think feeling comfortable with vim, scripting, bash etc. will be the most useful computing tools they could learn. You can make them feel at home with powerful tools without them resenting you for making them endure a steeper learning curve. When they finally encounter the easy to learn but weak alternatives (e.g. notepad.exe), they will wonder why anyone uses such junk and thank you for giving them such advantages. They will also learn that free is just as often better than "paid for", however, it's harder to find (which isn't a disadvantage if you are smart enough to do your research.

    I've thought about teaching them Dvorak, but doubt the benefits (RSI reduction, slight increase in speed) outweigh the costs (e.g. having to use other people's computers and experiencing difficulty, or even if you are coding for QWERTY users, understanding what a convenient shortcut key is).

    Another thing of benefit would be to encourage them to join some sort of FOSS project and progress through the ranks of bug tester, patch submitter and eventually developer. Maybe a game project of some description.

    But I agree with you, I also want to also teach them not to be scared of interacting with the actual hardware when necessary. A lot of these things (including the actual electronics) aren't intrinsically hard, they just require some specialized knowledge.

    The key I think is to figure out what they might or are interested in, and use that to your advantage - it gives them a reason to learn. At the end of the day, you want them to be as capable as possible, for as little cost and time as possible, teaching them how to teach themselves... while not getting caught in the trap of heading down paths that give other entities income streams at your expense - e.g. really easy to use stuff that is not powerful and costs money (or has to be stolen), or convincingly marketed stuff that is no better than the free alternative. I also would prefer for them to get addicted to something that will provide them an income stream without getting addicted to things that will only eat their time or cost them money. Games have some use (e.g. RTS games have taught me to pit strength against weakness, and adapt to your problem), but I don't want to create a WoW addict for example.

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  219. Ah, the good old days... by GottliebPins · · Score: 1

    I remember my first 300 baud modem. Back then 300 was screaming fast! You could actually see the letters appear on your screen! Having to call your friends and agree on what baud rate, what parity, how many data bits, how many stop bits, and reminding them to put their modem on "answer" and remind their family not to pick up the phone, ah, what fun. I remember calling into sites at work and getting horrible transfer rates, and being pissed that I had to get in my truck and drive 4 hours to the middle of bum hole Kentucky to install an upgrade because you couldn't connect by modem. Fun times. Back then "wireless" meant the modem you were calling was not on an actual phone line but connected to a radio receiver on one or more repeaters from an actual phone line. The lag time was incredible! Back then the internet was called CompuServe or a local BBS. Love those 80's :)

  220. Oh geez, where to begin? by rnturn · · Score: 1

    I have a system down in the basement that is running a few old SCSI drives that date back to the early '90s. (Cannibalized from StorageWorks bricks.) The darned things have been running continuously for well over a decade.

    The keyboard that I'm using to type this was made in March 1993. The KVM in the basement has one made in 10/92. (Yes, they're both Modem Ms.) I have an old ALR/386 with an ATA VGAWonder graphics card and the original NEC Multisync monitor that I bought back in the late '80s that I use (very occasionally) for an ancient DOS game. The oldest modem I have that I know still works is a Viva 2400 baud. I guess I could use it in case of an emergency though I have other, much faster modems I'd probably use if the need ever arose.

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  221. Model ASR35 Teletype by vaporland · · Score: 1

    I have an old Dell server running SIMH emulating the HP2000 Time Shared Access operating system I learned in junior high school. I used to play text-based blackjack for hours after school, printing out on roll after roll of paper.

    A former Navy communications specialist and teletype repairman gave me a model ASR35 Teletype that I hooked up to the SIMH software and server.

    Someone on the SIMH newsgroup was the person who scrapped our school system's HP2000 computer in the early eighties. He had a backup tape image and sent it to me, and I found programs written by a friend of my brother's in the main program library.

    I can run the same computer system in my house that I dreamed of having as a kid. Totally useless, but totally fun.

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  222. A relic that will not be missed... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I was around during the time of 300 baud modems. Let me explain just how slow they were....

    300 baud = 300 bps (yes, baud sometimes != bps but in this case it does)
    300 bps = 30 bytes/second. 10 bits per byte (1 start bit + 8 data bits + 1 stop bit)
    Average sized song from iTunes is about 5MB
    5MB = 5,242,880 bytes

    Do the math and it works out to about 2 days to transfer one average sized song from iTunes. I think I'll stick with today's technology thank you.

  223. Our old TV and calculators date from 70's & 80 by twosat · · Score: 1

    Our main TV is a 26" Philips KTV660 dating from late 1979, the TV repair man says that it is very overdesigned. I also have an HP-41C programmable calcutor with several kilobytes of RAM which I bought in 1981, and a Casio FX-3200 slim-line calculator from 1980. The calculators all work, but I very rarely use them.

  224. Clovis- oldest operational equipment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As a practicing flintknapper, I can tell you a cut from a stone flake, conchoidally fractured of course, hurts more appreciably than a steel razor shaving cut, unless the steel is first passed through A LIME into your little finger.

    Which came first: the clovis point or the Lime?

    ob1

  225. Old Style "Portable Computer" by this_is_art · · Score: 1

    I still have the slide rule that I received in about 1959 in junior high. It's a good companion for the monochrome vacuum tube TV and the mid-50's military radar transponder. Honestly though I have to keep this stuff out of my wife's way in order to avoid unwanted scrutiny of my vacuum tube collection and the books about designing circuits with vacuum tubes, and the use of analog computers to solve engineering problems.

  226. Trash 80 by Coffeesloth · · Score: 1

    I've got a couple of TRS-80 Model I Level II's in the basement. Its been awhile but they still work... Hey, 16K of RAM, who would ever need more? Floppy drives? We don't need no stinking floppy drives, we have cassette tape!

    I used to have some old CP/M machines that were being thrown out at work but I gave those away when I moved from Virginia to Germany in 93.

  227. But this I actually use... by Smock-Jata+Babushka · · Score: 1

    While I can probably dig up some stuff that's older (audio equipment comes to mind), one thing I use regularly is my HP41 calculator that I bought around 1980 (it's sitting to side of my keyboard right now) ... love that RPN notation for solving problems on the fly. Doesn't have graphics (why do you need graphics?), doesn't plug into a computer (okay, that one might be nice for program storage), runs a year or more on four "N" batteries, and nobody wants to borrow it ("...where's the equals key?"). I'd buy a second one for when this one bites the dust, but they are considered "collectible", and would cost about as much today as it did thirty years ago!

  228. 1984 component by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm using a power cable from 1984.

  229. Tandy 100 laptop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    TRS-80 based, MS Basic *is* the operating system, essentially, its how you operate it. Runs on double A's

  230. ~29-year-old Heathkit H19 terminal by drewish_princess · · Score: 1

    I've got a Heathkit H19 dumb terminal on my desk that's hooked up to my MacMini via serial-to-USB converter.

    I don't do a lot of "work" with it but I wrote a Ruby script for it to talk to iTunes via AppleScript and grab the album art then pass that through ImageMagick to bump the contrast then convert it to ASCII text using jp2a.

    You can see some pictures: http://www.flickr.com/photos/drewish/tags/h19/
    Or checkout the Ruby script: http://github.com/drewish/textFlow/tree/master

  231. Question sleft unanswered by sharkey · · Score: 1

    Did he play Global Thermonuclear War, or just a nice game of chess?

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  232. I just threw it all out last month... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A bunch of SPARC gear, SPARCStation2, IPC, IPX, etc, that all worked fine but was so slow that it was no longer relevant or capable.

    All from the early 1990s.

    Then there's the ZIP/JAZ drives that still spin... the modems are still packed away too...

  233. Actually.. by Henk+Poley · · Score: 1

    Actually they -current- engineers already did. Else it wouldn't work today.

  234. Almost 30 years back, TRS-80 by steeker · · Score: 1

    Somewhere in a box, I have an old TRS-80 Model 1 system from around 1980. Been years, but it worked last time I tried it. Can't find the cassette recorder for storing programs though... But I do have the 300-baud modem with it.

  235. "piece of equipment" is pretty generic! by Flexagon · · Score: 1

    My grandfather-in-law's slide rule is considerably older and still multiplies. My Magnavox tube radio and my Dad's Kodak Medalist camera using 620 film (which is 120 film on a fatter spool) are probably about the same. Assuming I don't have it, a museum astrolabe is far older yet functional, as is my answer to today's poll (the screw).

  236. Oldest gear by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Analog gear: I have an Ediphone from early 1900s, like 1907 I think.

    Digital gear: a Kim-1 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KIM-1 from around 1977.

    Both still work just fine.

    I have old (1920s) radios, old cars (1929, 1967, etc.), a 1983 5 MB hard disk, a 1968 modem (never tried it) ...

  237. DEC PDP 11/23, several TRS-80 model I's and a KS by strat · · Score: 1

    My PDP 11/23 still runs, both RT-11 and Fuzzball and if I fire it up with the Fujitsu Eagle with 150 pounds worth of 474 MB hard disk glory, it heats the room in the winter.

    I think a Fuzzball with a GPS time source would be anachronistic, in more ways than one.

    I have 4 TRS-80 model I's (my first computer), but my heart is set on eventually interfacing modern storage to the DECSYSTEM-20 in my garage. Alas, it's only a KS, but they're hard to find.

    I haven't lit up the TI 99/4A in quite a while, and I really should put the boards into the 4 microVAX chassis I have waiting to be assembled.

    Emulators just aren't the same.
     

  238. You want to know about my old hardware? by pickle_in_being · · Score: 1

    I happen to live next door to Stonehenge!!

  239. old stuff by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    - IBM Model M keyboard
    Part No. 139401
    ID No. 167088
    Date 18 AUG 89
    Plt No. J1
    (will be buried with me)

    -Atart 1024ST (still makes music)
    - Tandy CoCo (Motorola 6809) (music)

    -HP Vectra
    96MB EDO RAM
    Dos 6.2/WFW 3.11 w/32-bit libraries and Trumpet Winsock
    (DOS games in RAM disk)
    *can also boot OS/2 and GemDOS for amusement

    -Intel BX440 mainboard in server full tower case with ATI Rage video

    Palm Vx (2) (using ORB monitoring software as displays)

    Casio BZX-20 Watch (occasionally forgets itself and thinks its 1995 but looks bitchin' and can communicate via IR with PC)

  240. False economy! by jabjoe · · Score: 1

    Sure you can buy a cheap crappy one, but it will break quickly and you have to buy another and another and so on. Depending on the item, that policy can quickly get more expensive than buying a good one in the first place. It's a con to make you spend more. It's actually in a company's interest to make something crappy that breaks, but make you think it's good so you buy another when it does. What I think I've noticed is a company making a good product, then cashing in on the brand name they have built up. This of course compromises the brand name in the long run, but when it does, repeat! I think there should be a stated life span for the item, that if enough items don't make, the company gets into trouble with regulators, that means we can compared on life span and price. Other measures of quality are more subjective....

  241. Still in daily use... by Alt0n · · Score: 1

    The corkscrew my grandfather brought home from the railways over 60 years ago. I can see it becoming obsolete sometime this century :(

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  242. DOS1.1 by kandela · · Score: 1

    I have a 5.25" Floppy in storage with a copy of DOS1.1 on it.

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  243. Playing Fair by EmagGeek · · Score: 1

    Well, to play the game fairly, the oldest piece of equipment that I still own today, and that still works, is a Kenwood TS-930 HF Transceiver. It was built in the 80's some time, but I am not sure exactly when. I have made MAJOR repairs to it over the years since they were so crappily made.

    The oldest computer I have that still works is probably my Athlon 2600+ based machine that I use with Ubuntu Studio to do recording.

    I have owned computers as far back as the TRS-80 Model I, and I still use an HP48GX calculator that I got about 10 years ago. I hope and pray it will never break.

  244. HMMMM by BlindRobin · · Score: 1

    I have a screwdriver that was manufactured in the mid nineteenth century that still works just fine.

  245. mer? by Sarreq+Teryx · · Score: 1

    "The question I have, is what is the oldest working piece of equipment fellow Slashdotters have out there?"

    I doubt a pair of (currently in-use in my home theater) ~40-year old Pioneer 16ohm bookshelf speakers count, or is very impressive in comparison, but they sound awesome.

  246. A Sad Day. . . by bplipschitz · · Score: 1

    I took my 22 year old Leading Edge Model D [complete with 640k RAM and huge 40 Mb HD] to the recyclers yesterday.

    My first real computer, purchased with my own money.

    LEWP was a decent word processor.

    RIP.

  247. 50 year old speaker by mrraven · · Score: 1

    I have an Acoustic Research AR-1 speaker that is over 50 years old and working like a top as a subwoofer. :) One of the things I like about analog audio is the shear durability of the products compared to anything digital. The golden age of audio was the 70s and 70s Sansui, Pioneer, and Marantz amps and receivers are VERY in demand, name ANY digital product that was better 30+ years ago? I do like advancements in processor speed HD capacity etc, and filling up landfills with working 6 year old computers? Not so much...

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  248. TTY-15 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have a Teletype 15 with documentation dating back to 1939. It was installed at Peterson AFB and transferred to Cheyenne Mountain after the war.

    Works great! Needed a little oil, but it was designed to withstand an atomic war...

  249. Got some too. by Reservoir+Penguin · · Score: 1

    I still use an ancient 5,25 floppy drive for small files because I don't trust usb flash drives anymore. I once detected very suspicious net activity every time I plugged in a Kingston module, God only know whatever microcode they have running on the chips that covertly insists on calling home.

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  250. Obligatory begging by jra · · Score: 1

    If anyone has any Model M's they hate and want to get rid of, I'll pay shipping. :-)

    I have 4 at the moment, but spares and gifts are always useful...

  251. The oldest Tech by mprindle · · Score: 1

    The oldest machine that I work on is a QBUS Digital RT Vax 1000. It has a whopping 80 MB MFM hard drive that is about 3x as big as a 5.25" hard drive. The machine dates back to the early 80's. Amazingly enough the machines still run pretty well. Once you get them booted they'll run for years. The weakest point of them is the hard drive. It's not uncommon to have a 20 - 30% failure rate on drives fresh back from repair.

  252. Typo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "recieved" - "i before e, except after c".

  253. PCjr, C64, and, lo, a DEC VT102 terminal by jfederline · · Score: 1

    I still have a working PCjr, Commodore 64, and also a Commodore 128. I got rid of my HP PA-RISC 712 pizza box, my Sun lunchboxes and pizza boxes, and my IBM RISC 7012. In college I sold my blazing fast AMD 386SX40 with 40MB HD for cash money (which I ran Linux 0.99pl14 on), when I found an old DEC VT102 terminal - I used it to dial up the modem pool with my Ven-Tel 1200 bps modem and access the DEC EP/IX system at school. ATDT, baby. The Intertubes now are not what I thought they would become back then.

  254. Antique Computers by chuckpol · · Score: 1

    I own a warehouse full of old computers, all versions of TRS80's, Apple's, Amiga's, Zenith kits, NeXt, Heathkit's, and many more. They all work and have 8" drives, old external floppies for TRS80's as well as 5 Meg hard drives. Software for all the systems. All versions of DOS and Windows (version 1 up), old versions of many old software packages (especially versions 1). Want to create a computer museum someday (especially if I can find someone who would like to help) I live in NC.

  255. I can go back 30 years by wcrowe · · Score: 1

    Without too much effort, I've been able to surf the web with my 1979 Heathkit H89.

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  256. 1970s Era working systems by rclandrum · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I restore early systems as a hobby and have the following in bootable, working condition:

    An 1976 IMSAI 8080 with 64K RAM, dual 8 inch floppies, and 5.25 and 3.5 drives, equipped with a Centronics printer and a ASR33 Teletype with paper tape reader.

    A 1977 Genrad Futuredata firmware development system with dual 8 inch floppies and EPROM burner

    A 1974-era duplicate of Jonathan Titus's Mark-8, a 16K 8008-based system as shown in July 1974 Radio Electronics

    Recently sold my working 1975/76 Altair 8800 with dual fixed-format 8 inch floppies, 64K RAM, Centronics printer, ASR33 Teletype with paper tape reader. All original MITS boards. Would boot Bill Gates original BASIC, as well as Altair DOS and CP/M 2.2. Complete with original doc in MITS binders.

    A 1977 TRS-80 Model I 16K

    A good number of misc S-100 boards for IMSAI and Altair

    80's stuff:

    Original 128K Macintosh with dual 3.5 drives - boots and runs

    Cromemco SBC with 3K Basic in ROM

    Masscomp 68010 RT Unix - boots and runs

    A bunch of old accoustic modems...

  257. HP Printers by Life2Death · · Score: 0

    I think the oldest crap I have is a still in use HP LaserJet IIId purchased around the time when I was born, and an early 80's HP Pen Plotter that also still works.

  258. 1986 NEC Prospeed 286 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    blazing along at a smoking 16MHz
    10 Megabyte hard disk, 256 Megs of RAM
    It still works. I considered gutting it and using tat case to make a portable gaming rig, but I can't quite bring myself to do it.
    And somewhere around here, I have my original SoundBlaster 8-bit - I don't know if it works, because I can't find and ISA slot to test. :-P

  259. Osbourne 1 by Naatach · · Score: 1

    I still have the Osbourne 1 luggable running CP/M. It still works if I could find a working 5 1/4" floppy that still worked. 28 years.

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  260. Re:Impeach Obama: +1, PatRIOTic by clone53421 · · Score: 1

    "But I'm not an accused terrorist!"

    What an ignorant, ignorant response. More appropriate would have been,

    "But I'm not a self-acknowledged terrorist who claims to have information about future terrorist attacks on the US!"

    If I'm not mistaken, three terrorists were waterboarded. THREE. It's not like we were waterboarding them just for the hell of it.

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    Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
  261. 1975 was a good year by uiuyhn8i8 · · Score: 1

    Still got an Atari Pong game that our family got for christmas 1975, and a ti57 and a ti59 calculator from around 1977. And I had a pdp-11/23 cirka 1979 in my dorm room a decade ago. And I generally don't even like old stuff. Go figure.

  262. Oldest file? May '86... by trygstad · · Score: 1

    I also have my 1986 Prospeed 286. I also found on my current hard drive a Wordstar file from May 1986 which I was able to successfully open with Lotus WordPro.

  263. Which TCP/IP stack do you use? by Sits · · Score: 1

    This was always one of the things that came to haunt me for using an (3.0 based) Amiga for so long - no TCP/IP stack built in...

  264. Curta calculator by philmck · · Score: 1

    I've got a Curta calculator (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curta) that's about the same vintage (1964, but earlier models date from 1948) that still works. Does that count?

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  265. Re:My Crating Tool by marcus · · Score: 1

    Combination hammer, axe, prybar. Used to be my grandfather's. Stamped "Made in Texas 1901".
    There are more stampings, but I can't make them out.

    I also have his old rail pike, used to manually bend rail track sections into place(remember when Arnold got staked to the deck in T2?), but I have no idea how old it is.

    Old computer hardware?

    AMD 386dx40 mobo with only ISA slots, plenty of peripherals including an ethernet card with cat-5 and coax connections, and a true VGA-only card. Runs Slackware in 16MB SDRAM and 100MB disk drive. Makes a great X server.

    DEC Alpha 233MHz Noname mobo that still works like a charm. Runs old Red Hat.

    I'm sure my dad still has a trx80 somewhere...ooh I forgot in the garage he has an old fashioned Teletype with paper tape punch/reader on the side. An authentic 110 baud machine.

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    - W. Wriston, former Citibank CEO
  266. Oldest technology still in use? by AndyCater · · Score: 1

    Former work: German Navy Enigma machine. [At home] WW II AR88 receiver / contemporary Morse key / 1927 BBC radio. Working laptop - 386SX/16 from ??1992??

  267. How about my "boat anchor" ham gear? by the_rajah · · Score: 1

    I've got a Hammarlund HQ-129X from 1946 that still receives just fine and sounds great as does my 1952 Collins 75A-2. On the transmitting side, my original Heathkit DX-40 that I built in 1957 still gets fired up occasionally and does the same job it did back then.

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  268. Compaq Contura by raedeon · · Score: 1

    I still use an old Compaq Contura Laptop(150MB HD 4MB RAM) from about early-mid 90s? It has Windows 3.1 and it works amazingly well still.

  269. Bunch of Sun eqiupment by flamingnight · · Score: 1

    I've got some old Sun stuff around that still runs - 3 or 4 SPARCstation 1 boxes (1989), an Enterprise Server 250 (mid-90s), Ultra 60/Creator 3D (?). They all work, to some degree but some make better furniture than workstations right now.

    For example, the Ultra 60 is covered with a tablecloth and is a side-table next to my couch. The tower of SPARCstation1 systems is similarly decorated and holds up a lamp. The E250 was mostly used as a heater in old apartments.

  270. From back in the day.. by LilGuy · · Score: 1

    My dad had an old tandy that we just sold at auction a couple years ago. I believe our first IBM Compatible 468's original 125mb hard drive is still in a box of stuff in my mom's basement somewhere. I know there's a 14.4k modem somewhere in that box too.

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  271. RSS on a Model 15 Teletype from 1944 by Animats · · Score: 1

    I have a Model 15 Teletype, a 1930 design built in 1944, not only working, but printing RSS news feeds. The Reuters RSS feed gives me a nice news report. Each time Reuters posts a new story, the Teletype motor turns on, the big machine prints the story, and it shuts down again.

    I also set it up so that I can send text messages from the Teletype keyboard. All upper case, of course.

    These machines are incredibly overdesigned, which is why they still work after 65 years. Unless they've been physically damaged, it's not that hard to get one running again. Mine just required thorough cleaning and oiling (over 500 oiling points), a new ribbon, and a roll of paper. I had to build a level-converting interface for the thing; it needs a 60mA current loop with 120VDC powering it. So I designed a small PC board for that.

    A standard PC serial port will talk to it, at 45.45 baud, 5 bits, 1.5 stop bits, no parity. Which Windows will happily do. (Linux won't; the Linux scheme for selecting baud rates uses a fixed list of baud rates left over from the PDP-11 era. There are driver-level hacks to get around this, but the stock serial driver won't do it.) I wrote a Python program to handle the Teletype's Baudot issues and machine control, and to poll RSS feeds, printing each new story exactly once. It also does NOAA weather reports.

    I've tried various RSS feeds. Reuters has the cleanest ones for this purpose. Each story comes with a heading and a brief, coherent summary. Most of the other RSS news feeds either just have the headlines, or truncate each story arbitrarily, ending it with "...". Reuters adds about one new story per hour, on average. It just printed "OBAMA TO NAME WHITE HOUSE CYBERSECURITY CZAR". (This is an upper-case-only machine, remember.)

    Once I build a transparent case for the machine, I'm going to loan it to the Exploratorium or the Computer Museum. It will be set up to print news, and maybe incoming text messages so kids can text to it.

    Suggest some good RSS feeds for demo purposes. Reuters has about one story per hour. A feed that produces something every 5-10 minutes would be useful.

  272. WWII radio, Pong, calculator, IBM stuff by CAIMLAS · · Score: 1

    I've got a couple things. My grandfather was a radioman in WWII and he somehow came upon two German field radios. I think they're the same as the one in this auction.

    I've got an old Pong console (ie, of the gaming variety) that my dad got for his 15th birthday - that'd have been in 1974. It wasn't an official Pong console, which didn't come out until the following year, but a knock-off.

    I've got (at my parents' house) a massive TI calculator with a solar panel on it. Probably one of the originals, don't remember the brand. That's got to be at least 35 years old, and it's got all the functionality of those novelty "wallet calculators" that companies will sometimes use as business cards.

    I've also got a fair collection of old IBM hardware. First on the list is an IBM Personal Portable Computer (IBM Portable PC 5155), circa 1984. It still works, to the exception of one of the two floppy drives, as far as I know (I've not had a 5.25" floppy for over a decade.) It's got an old (can't even remember the interface) 10Mb hard drive which also still works. I've thought of getting Linux to run on there several times, just for S&G, but never got around to it due to lacking a proper interface card or an easy way to get it on there.

    And then there's the pile of a dozen or so IBM Model M keyboards, dating from 1980 through 1992. Yes, 1980. Maybe it wasn't technically a model M (according to wiki, the Model M came out in 1984), but the ones I've got from 1980 and 1981 are identical and part compatible, as near as I can tell, with the post-1984 "Model M" keyboards which are marked as such on the back.

    I also have my original NES, which was mid-1980s. Hardly old, but there you have it.

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  273. ok .... try to surf with that ! by freaker_TuC · · Score: 1

    I don't think your floppy will demodulate enough to surf the web ...

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  274. Whistles... This post is a museum! ... by freaker_TuC · · Score: 1

    I'm from 1976, I used to be able to whistle back to modems to let them either connect or disconnect.

    Of'course, I couldn't whistle fast enough to get a steady 1200 baud connection,
    but it sure helps when you needed to reach the other end running a BBS having troubles ...

    Maybe an idea for Slashdot to ask their users to post photo's of this post, since all that material is connected to the core of all of us. My worst mistake of most of my material to render it inoperative is having it in the basement. I've got dozens of old hardware and software like games (Sierra, Lucasart, Origin, ...) which are probably ready to throw in the dump... It's a shame a basement can ruin a lot like that, even when treated for waterproblems. I've managed to salvage a lot by storing a lot of oldies at my mom. Maybe it'll get hooked up once I'll get to it...

    If electricity still exists that time .. not being bitter or something.

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    --- I am known for the ones who want to find me on the net. Is that a privacy risk or a privilege? One might wonder..