Ok, sorry, I know I'm going to get bashed for this, but lemme 'splain.
Introduce bleach to your home and you run the risk that a child will drink it.
The movies and media don't glamorize "bleach use". Kids aren't attracted by that cool looking, shiny, oooooh, it's-so-fucking-cool-I-just-have-to-play-with-it bleach bottle. Also, Parents generally don't keep bleach bottles open and sitting next to the bed at night in case a burglar comes busting into the house with his own bleach. Also, it tastes bad, it stinks, and it HURTS to play with. If guns stung your hands, stunk, and made you cry when you were playing with them, this would be an acceptable argument.
Introduce stairs to your home and you run the risk that a child will fall down them.
Duh. Gimme a break. Heh,
Introduce a kettle to your home and you run the risk that a child will scald themselves with boiling water.
Guess what? Most scalds will not KILL a child, and, again, playing with a hot kettle doesn't feel as "cool" as it once did to so many of our youth.
What's your point again?
I think the point wasn't so much that "People in the house like children using them and getting hurt, or killing someone." That, I have to blatantly disagree with. Most peple DON'T like children using guns. But it's possible that a responsible parent could have an irresponsible child, and that one out of a thousand "responsible" parents with irresponsible or stupid children could grab the gun and wreak havoc. That doesn't include the hundreds of thousands of irresponsible parents out there, where it would be more like one out of one hundred. The point is, I think, that guns are meant to kill. There's NO other purpose for them. ("But I wanna COLLECT them!" Shut the fuck up. Go buy some baseball cards.) So, introducing a machine that's meant only to kill into your house DOES contribute to the risk that your child will hurt someone with it. That's the point. That's all the prev poster said.
Lemme put it another way. I have stairs, I have hot kettles, I have bleach. I feel that I'm a responsible parent when it comes to my child's safety. I have no gun. I fucking GUARANTEE to you that my son will not get my gun and hurt someone with it. Refute THAT.
As far as the fingerprint recognition, well...a good responsible parent with a gun lock could do as much good in lots of cases. I haven't seen the technology and don't know if it works, and it hasn't been tested. Let them try, at least. If you stood a handful of kids in front of me and said, "This law will save their lives", I'd probably vote for it. But then I'm probably some hippy freakazoid liberal whacko gay-lover commie asshole because I don't think every goddamned "responsible" adult should own and carry a gun.
Y'know, I won't be happy (and am probably joined by many of the rest of the/. crowd) until I read the Oprah interview in three years about how they found Hilary Rosen living behind a record store somewhere, homeless, eating out of a dumpster to survive.
Of course, that means I'd have to live with the thought that Oprah is still around in 3 years, but that's a pain I can easily live with.
I would want to collect these:
- Unreal Tournament 2044
- Doom CXVII
- Ultima Online '72
- Grand Theft Aircar 16
- Age of Empires 13 - the 20th Century
- Quake IIIIIIIIII
- LOTR 12 - The return of the grandson of the guy who heard about the king (Live 5-d action)
- Wolfenstein 16-d (Now with time-travel gameplay)
- Medal of Honor 9 : Assault the Allies
Here's a letter I sent to SoftwareOnline about their popunder ads - I saw one minutes after reading this article.
Feel free to send this letter or one like it to bonzi@lukins.com and newads@softwareonline.com. I think the more concern that is generated, the more likely it is that SOME of these could stop.
It wasn't minutes after I'd read the article about the Lukins & Annis class action suit against Bonzi and their questionable and misleading hijacking of computers by using misleading install/error/wizard pop up and banner ads that I was treated to one of your silly "Increase your computer performance!" ads for MemTurbo.
It makes me sad that companies like yours are relying on the "who can trick the user best" business format and not the "who makes the best product" format. I read your rules and regulations regarding submission of ads and I applaud your rules for 468 and Skyscraper ads, specifically these:
- Must not contain the words "Download", "Install", "Scan", or "Update"
- Cannot contain offers that imply your PC will be "Tested" or "Checked" by the landing page itself
- Must not deceive or mislead the user into clicking. Coercion is ok, deception is not!
Unfortunately, you do not adhere to these rules with Popunder ad submission. I find that disgraceful and would specifically NEVER buy a product from a company that uses SoftwareOnline.com, Inc's marketing "services" and your reprehensible techniques. I go out of my way to recommend against doing business with said companies to all of my customers, and will continue to do so until this sort of ad campaign stops.
Are you aware of the class action lawsuit pending against Bonzi? Are you also aware that your ads are almost exact duplicates (in both nature and content) of the Bonzi ads in dispute now? The design specifications and sample ads on http://sharewareonline.com/WebAdDesigner.htm speak volumes about your willingness to trick customers with Popunder ads.
Please consider your techniques and dubious business model carefully...
Maybe we should all, after every game, call or write or email the NFL commissioner and ask for his express written consent to tell our SOs what the score was.
I'm sure I'll sound like a troll - don't waste mod points on me. I already know it.
I think that supporting this service will encourage the continuing price fixing and gouging for music. The middlemen have made so much money off artists & consumers and I am hoping that the digital revolution will turn this around.
So, when will you be happy? When either of these is true?:
1. Artists write, record, mix, produce, package, market and ship all their own music...or
2. Middlemen get paid nothing - these include song writers, sound technicians, recording techs, supporting musicians, producers, production assistans, secretaries, marketing advisors, managers, stock boys, warehouse managers, trucking companies, gas station attendants...I could go on for hours!
I'm sorry, it just realy sounds like people here are getting in the habit of forgetting that there's ANYONE involved in music production other than "the artist".
Price fixing and price gouging SUCK! I hate them as much as the next guy, but this IS a step in the right direction, and when you complain about this, too, you sound a lot like the psychos who think we never landed on the moon (add +5 funny to the "we landed on the moon!!?" comments) when you try to give them proof of it. Even if you showed the lunar lander to them, they'd still say, "It was planted."
You sound like even if the ultimate scheme was devised and adhered to by the hundreds of thousands of workers involved in music production, where the artists make planty of money and Hilary Rosen is eating out of a dumpster somewhere, you'd say, "I don't mind paying for something, but the middlemen in the music biz add very little value, and IMHO screw a lot up!" and never support with your pocketbook!!
Here, here! I'm a QA developer in a new MFC/COM programming role, and Google has become my best friend.
Were it not for that, I would spend endless hours drudging through embarrasingly useless MS help files and hundreds of pounds worth of books looking for some of this obscure stuff I need to interface with...I wouldn't get work done without it.
If you haven't tried Visual Assist, give it a shot - 30 day trial, and it's awesome at helping out those who are used to VC++ but need a bit more quickness and functionality when writing C++ stuff in Win32 environments...
Sorry for such a blatant plug, but I have recently purchased it after a demo, and love it!
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Introduce bleach to your home and you run the risk that a child will drink it.
The movies and media don't glamorize "bleach use". Kids aren't attracted by that cool looking, shiny, oooooh, it's-so-fucking-cool-I-just-have-to-play-with-it bleach bottle. Also, Parents generally don't keep bleach bottles open and sitting next to the bed at night in case a burglar comes busting into the house with his own bleach. Also, it tastes bad, it stinks, and it HURTS to play with. If guns stung your hands, stunk, and made you cry when you were playing with them, this would be an acceptable argument.
Introduce stairs to your home and you run the risk that a child will fall down them.
Duh. Gimme a break. Heh,
Introduce a kettle to your home and you run the risk that a child will scald themselves with boiling water.
Guess what? Most scalds will not KILL a child, and, again, playing with a hot kettle doesn't feel as "cool" as it once did to so many of our youth.
What's your point again?
I think the point wasn't so much that "People in the house like children using them and getting hurt, or killing someone." That, I have to blatantly disagree with. Most peple DON'T like children using guns. But it's possible that a responsible parent could have an irresponsible child, and that one out of a thousand "responsible" parents with irresponsible or stupid children could grab the gun and wreak havoc. That doesn't include the hundreds of thousands of irresponsible parents out there, where it would be more like one out of one hundred. The point is, I think, that guns are meant to kill. There's NO other purpose for them. ("But I wanna COLLECT them!" Shut the fuck up. Go buy some baseball cards.) So, introducing a machine that's meant only to kill into your house DOES contribute to the risk that your child will hurt someone with it. That's the point. That's all the prev poster said.
Lemme put it another way. I have stairs, I have hot kettles, I have bleach. I feel that I'm a responsible parent when it comes to my child's safety. I have no gun. I fucking GUARANTEE to you that my son will not get my gun and hurt someone with it. Refute THAT.
As far as the fingerprint recognition, well...a good responsible parent with a gun lock could do as much good in lots of cases. I haven't seen the technology and don't know if it works, and it hasn't been tested. Let them try, at least. If you stood a handful of kids in front of me and said, "This law will save their lives", I'd probably vote for it. But then I'm probably some hippy freakazoid liberal whacko gay-lover commie asshole because I don't think every goddamned "responsible" adult should own and carry a gun.
I'll have you know I have rolling credit, thank you. And I'm in VERY good standing.
Linux RULZ! MS SUCKS! Down with RIAA! Hilary Rosen is a dummy-head!
See?
Not to be picky...bet...erm...how does one say this without sounding like a nerd in court?
I mean, "But, your Honor, l00k 47 my 31337 gr4ph1x!" writes sorta cool, but, "Your Honor, look at my elite graphics!" just sounds...well...
Maybe, "Your honor, please have entered into the record the following words, in this order, with...Oh, never mind. Can I sit at that thing for a sec?"
(Or, if you're an SNL fan, just this : "MOVE.")
Sorta sound like torture techniques, don't they? Right up the ol' MS alley.
Yeah, and 36D should be enough for anyone.
Uhhh, yeah. That's sorta the point. :)
Of course, that means I'd have to live with the thought that Oprah is still around in 3 years, but that's a pain I can easily live with.
I would want to collect these :
- Unreal Tournament 2044
- Doom CXVII
- Ultima Online '72
- Grand Theft Aircar 16
- Age of Empires 13 - the 20th Century
- Quake IIIIIIIIII
- LOTR 12 - The return of the grandson of the guy who heard about the king (Live 5-d action)
- Wolfenstein 16-d (Now with time-travel gameplay)
- Medal of Honor 9 : Assault the Allies
Oh...and Starcraft 2, for crying out loud.
Ok, Swedish or not, any company that can skin a cat with a balloon from 300 km away has my complete and total attention.
cridit : (verb) 1. to blame or place blame (noun) 2. what one gets when one is cridicised.
How about a .rz domain for Religious Zealots only? Someone could con the $cientologists in there, too.
Or does $cientology only live in .ca?
Wellll, I would guess that depends on whether you're the owner or the receiver.
Thanks, folks. I'm here all week.
The Movie execs!
Or Hilary Rosen, if they're not around.
Un-Free Linux?
Blue Screen of Linux?
Maybe All-Your-Torvalds-Are-Belong-to-Microsoft?
In Soviet Russia, Linu(*BANG!!!!*)
Or Linux Professional.
How about .Linux?
Visual Linux.
MSL?
Linux#?
And you think you're an accepting adult who is not completely fscked up?
Ha!
:)
Who takes a whole week to teach kids Gnutella?
Oh...Free OS. Sorry. My bad.
If you're Republican...it proves you have a small weiner.
Can I misquote you on that? :)
Ha, bloody Ha.
:)
Feel free to send this letter or one like it to bonzi@lukins.com and newads@softwareonline.com. I think the more concern that is generated, the more likely it is that SOME of these could stop.
It wasn't minutes after I'd read the article about the Lukins & Annis class
:
action suit against Bonzi and their questionable and misleading hijacking of
computers by using misleading install/error/wizard pop up and banner ads that I
was treated to one of your silly "Increase your computer performance!" ads for
MemTurbo.
It makes me sad that companies like yours are relying on the "who can trick the
user best" business format and not the "who makes the best product" format. I
read your rules and regulations regarding submission of ads and I applaud your
rules for 468 and Skyscraper ads, specifically these
- Must not contain the words "Download", "Install", "Scan", or "Update"
- Cannot contain offers that imply your PC will be "Tested" or "Checked" by
the landing page itself
- Must not deceive or mislead the user into clicking. Coercion is ok,
deception is not!
Unfortunately, you do not adhere to these rules with Popunder ad submission. I
find that disgraceful and would specifically NEVER buy a product from a company
that uses SoftwareOnline.com, Inc's marketing "services" and your
reprehensible techniques. I go out of my way to recommend against doing
business with said companies to all of my customers, and will continue to do so
until this sort of ad campaign stops.
Are you aware of the class action lawsuit pending against Bonzi? Are you also
aware that your ads are almost exact duplicates (in both nature and content) of
the Bonzi ads in dispute now? The design specifications and sample ads on
http://sharewareonline.com/WebAdDesigner.htm speak volumes about your
willingness to trick customers with Popunder ads.
Please consider your techniques and dubious business model carefully...
Hey, if it was on TV, it's GOT to be true!
Maybe we should all, after every game, call or write or email the NFL commissioner and ask for his express written consent to tell our SOs what the score was.
I'm sure I'll sound like a troll - don't waste mod points on me. I already know it.
I think that supporting this service will encourage the continuing price fixing and gouging for music. The middlemen have made so much money off artists & consumers and I am hoping that the digital revolution will turn this around.
So, when will you be happy? When either of these is true? :
1. Artists write, record, mix, produce, package, market and ship all their own music...or
2. Middlemen get paid nothing - these include song writers, sound technicians, recording techs, supporting musicians, producers, production assistans, secretaries, marketing advisors, managers, stock boys, warehouse managers, trucking companies, gas station attendants...I could go on for hours!
I'm sorry, it just realy sounds like people here are getting in the habit of forgetting that there's ANYONE involved in music production other than "the artist".
Price fixing and price gouging SUCK! I hate them as much as the next guy, but this IS a step in the right direction, and when you complain about this, too, you sound a lot like the psychos who think we never landed on the moon (add +5 funny to the "we landed on the moon!!?" comments) when you try to give them proof of it. Even if you showed the lunar lander to them, they'd still say, "It was planted."
You sound like even if the ultimate scheme was devised and adhered to by the hundreds of thousands of workers involved in music production, where the artists make planty of money and Hilary Rosen is eating out of a dumpster somewhere, you'd say, "I don't mind paying for something, but the middlemen in the music biz add very little value, and IMHO screw a lot up!" and never support with your pocketbook!!
/rant
Were it not for that, I would spend endless hours drudging through embarrasingly useless MS help files and hundreds of pounds worth of books looking for some of this obscure stuff I need to interface with...I wouldn't get work done without it.
If you haven't tried Visual Assist, give it a shot - 30 day trial, and it's awesome at helping out those who are used to VC++ but need a bit more quickness and functionality when writing C++ stuff in Win32 environments...
Sorry for such a blatant plug, but I have recently purchased it after a demo, and love it!