if you are from Google please ignore this posting as I have nothing to offer someone as young and brash as you are
A rather sweeping generalization I would say. I am over 40 and am from Google.
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If this trend continues I wonder how many orgs would be willing to go along for the ride? Imagine a mail server running on Debian, your web server running on Sun Linux, your database server on Oracle Linux, your application server on Red Hat, etc.
Bravo for pointing out so succinctly the idiocy of this whole rumor.
Make it fast, compliant and secure. Leave everything else to extensions.
But don't drink that koolaid to excess. How much sense does it to make the ability to remember tab and location state an extention for example? Crashing and ooming are both standard features of Firefox, but remembering what it was doing when it crashed is not? Oh, and by the way, can we please not wait until exit to store configuration changes on disk? And how dumb is it to "simplify" the configuration by moving important configuration elements like image animation into about:config obscurity, then add insult to injury by not providing a list of valid options?
Hey, I still think Firefox is the best open source browser out there, but it suffers from plenty of idiotic misdesign all the same.
Ah, while I'm ranting, how user unfriendly is it to require two clicks in the browser window to move the keyboard focus from the location bar to the browser window? And what is it with that useless download list that doesn't even tell you the directory it downloaded to, but loves to get in the way and lie on around when the download is finished pretending it did something useful.
And the whole concept of "profiles" is just horribly broken. Please just bite the bullet and support multiple sessions open using the same config files, this is not rocket science.
I've seen posts that actually rationally compare the working environment, the actual corporate culture, and what factors this guy should use to make his decision. Most of the best posts that I've read state that Google is a workaholic company at the moment...wrong posts by clueless people. We Googlers tend to keep perfectly normal hours. And during those perfectly normal hours we tend to have a lot of fun.
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I do know that Google tends to be an easy-going work environment, though with a veiled sense of pressure. Employees are subtly pressured to work far beyond 40 hours a week and thus it's not a good career in my opinion for someone with a family or someone intending to start a family.
Speaking as a Googler and a family man, with all due respect you are incorrect. Way wrong. If anything, the subtle pressure goes the other way.
If you work at Google, then work will be your life. At Google you'll end up being at work all the time, but you'll enjoy it, and you get really good free food.
As a Googler I can reveal to you that you are correct about the food, wrong about the work hours. Our work hours are perfectly normal, I have a life outside work, and my weekends are all mine.
I suppose I could also add that Google is the most enlightened employer I have ever had, by far. Oh, and I have a dream job. Thanks Google.
Of the currently commercial available technologies, I'd predict that DLP will be the long-term winner
DLP takes up too much space, needs an expensive, failure prone projection lamp and has too many moving parts. DLP's only advantage over LCD is price and the difference has narrowed considerably over the last year.
I predict that any bill that makes things through Congress will only change the system for the worse
I most strongly agree. Respectfully, the Senators should get their collective heads of out their asses and rescind the formerly-illegal policy of granting patents on computer programs and business methods.
And it's power consumption was a rounding error of the radar power consumption at a 3rd decimal.
Are you claiming that the radar itself uses 10 megawatts or did you just feel the need to post?
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What idiot whould put in "hacks" and have to strip them out before begining real work again? You can make copies of a source tree. Fork the code, get it ready for E3, and keep the untouched code in the main development cycle.
Dropping the fork counts as "stripping out" and of course there will be work done in the E3 build that is decent and needs to be merged back to the trunk. Choose your poison, I would not be surprised at all if it is easier to continue the fork. Side note: maybe you should consider not calling somebody an idiot while in the same sentence demonstrating your own failure to grasp the concept?
Others have said it, but the reason is that VXWorks has a smaller footprint.
Ahem. This hack proves the footprint argument wrong by example. I doubt that the purported smaller footprint ever was the real reason, it just sounded convincing... until now.
Google did this kind of thing when they launched Google Video too. Does anyone know why it excludes the rest of the world when launching new sites? It's the only company I personally know that has web pages that only work in certain countries.
This has nothing to do with Google policy. One of the download servers had a problem which was resolved. Please download and enjoy, wherever you are.
Lied in court so often that they received three-times punative damages
I think you are passing on unsubstantiated hearsay. From what I can tell, the judge claimed that RIMM faked the prior art, which flies in the face of the fact that the patent office later invalidated the patents based on the prior art.
In fact, IAAL, and I have conducted criminal trials in court. I've been in chambers. And to the best of my recollection, there was never testimony given (expert or otherwise), nor even statements made by non-attorneys without a court reporter being present
Well you will certainly never be my lawyer because you are dense. Can you not distinquish between an investigation and a trial?
The meetings should still be documented. They should still be open. This is akin to the use of "secret" evidence or witnesses, which I doubt most slashdotters would support (especially if the "evil" U.S. does it). It's the tactics of a kangaroo court.
You obviously haven't spent a lot of time in court. Do you know what "in chambers" means?
"single click desktop interfaces suck bigtime. I sometimes need to be able to select an item, or items, and doing that with single click is annyoying. You can get a system where the focus is given to the item that the mouse hovers over but that's slow to operate. Give me single click to select, double click to operate, anyday."
Ahem. Hovering is a stupid way to select an item and completely unnecessary. It is much faster to lasoo the item(s) by dragging the mouse.
Double-click-to-activate really is a broken and useless concept. KDE uses single click by default and I have never heard anybody complain about that, even ex Windows users.
[Linus] is still the bottleneck in the whole process.
Excuse me, but no he isn't, and this is not because of BitKeeper, but because of Andrew Morton.
Any time he does not spend on kernel work delays the next release.
By this argument, Linus better not take holidays or spend time with his children. Feh.
Ulimately Tridge let political considerations override practical ones and Linus has every right to be unhappy with that decision.
Look, the only person in the whole silly story who is above reproach is Tridge. Linus was stupid. Larry McVoy was unbelievably stupid. And the stupidest of all are people like you who cannot distinguish facts from story telling.
Fortunately, there aren't too many idiots like you still wallowing in the catty hearsay.
What use is Trigdell's reverse engineering work now?
Though I doubt Tridge ever intended it, it got us rid of Larry McVoy, who had succeeded in creating deep rifts in the kernel community. That damage has largely healed.
It also gave us Git, Mercurial, Bazaar-ng and acceleration in development on a host of open course version control project.
It has also given us lossless dumps of the 2.4-2.5 kernel BitKeeper repositories, and a bunch of other projects. Anybody with a license can get lossless dumps of any other repositories if they care to, though to tell the truth there doesn't seem to be a lot of interest in any BitKeeper history besides the kernel.
All in all, an entirely satisfactory result for a few week's work.
Tridgell didn't do anything wrong in reverse engineering the BK protocol.
Gee, thanks for that.
But he did insist on continuing the work when informed of the consequences, i.e. discontinuation of the free version of BK
You mean he didn't stop what he was doing what he was entitled to do, even when threatened. But you (Joe nobody) apparently think that Tridge should have given in to the extortion. Luckily for us, he didn't.
Oh, and by the way, how do you know that Tridge was ever "informed of the consequences"? You don't.
and therefore a boatload of work for the kernel developers to replace that tool.
Exactly how many kernel developers do you hear complaining about the amount of work? Oh, none? Gee, I wonder why. Maybe because it wasn't a boatload of work when shared by many hands, and when carried out by clueful people?
Not to mention the loss of that tool for many non-kernel developers.
They never really had that tool in the first place, the license was always a sword hanging by a thread. By the way, Git is in no way restricted to kernel development. Non-kernel projects are already using it, and of course Git is developed using Git.
Talks were held between Tridge, Linus, and BitMover and a compromise could not be reached.
Again, you don't know that, you are just spouting. As I see it, Larry engaged in brinksmanship and lost. Boo hoo.
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if you are from Google please ignore this posting as I have nothing to offer someone as young and brash as you are
A rather sweeping generalization I would say. I am over 40 and am from Google.
If this trend continues I wonder how many orgs would be willing to go along for the ride? Imagine a mail server running on Debian, your web server running on Sun Linux, your database server on Oracle Linux, your application server on Red Hat, etc.
Bravo for pointing out so succinctly the idiocy of this whole rumor.
Make it fast, compliant and secure. Leave everything else to extensions.
But don't drink that koolaid to excess. How much sense does it to make the ability to remember tab and location state an extention for example? Crashing and ooming are both standard features of Firefox, but remembering what it was doing when it crashed is not? Oh, and by the way, can we please not wait until exit to store configuration changes on disk? And how dumb is it to "simplify" the configuration by moving important configuration elements like image animation into about:config obscurity, then add insult to injury by not providing a list of valid options?
Hey, I still think Firefox is the best open source browser out there, but it suffers from plenty of idiotic misdesign all the same.
Ah, while I'm ranting, how user unfriendly is it to require two clicks in the browser window to move the keyboard focus from the location bar to the browser window? And what is it with that useless download list that doesn't even tell you the directory it downloaded to, but loves to get in the way and lie on around when the download is finished pretending it did something useful.
And the whole concept of "profiles" is just horribly broken. Please just bite the bullet and support multiple sessions open using the same config files, this is not rocket science.
Basics, guys, basics.
I've seen posts that actually rationally compare the working environment, the actual corporate culture, and what factors this guy should use to make his decision. Most of the best posts that I've read state that Google is a workaholic company at the moment ...wrong posts by clueless people. We Googlers tend to keep perfectly normal hours. And during those perfectly normal hours we tend to have a lot of fun.
I do know that Google tends to be an easy-going work environment, though with a veiled sense of pressure. Employees are subtly pressured to work far beyond 40 hours a week and thus it's not a good career in my opinion for someone with a family or someone intending to start a family.
Speaking as a Googler and a family man, with all due respect you are incorrect. Way wrong. If anything, the subtle pressure goes the other way.
If you work at Google, then work will be your life. At Google you'll end up being at work all the time, but you'll enjoy it, and you get really good free food.
As a Googler I can reveal to you that you are correct about the food, wrong about the work hours. Our work hours are perfectly normal, I have a life outside work, and my weekends are all mine.
I suppose I could also add that Google is the most enlightened employer I have ever had, by far. Oh, and I have a dream job. Thanks Google.
Of the currently commercial available technologies, I'd predict that DLP will be the long-term winner
DLP takes up too much space, needs an expensive, failure prone projection lamp and has too many moving parts. DLP's only advantage over LCD is price and the difference has narrowed considerably over the last year.
I predict that any bill that makes things through Congress will only change the system for the worse
I most strongly agree. Respectfully, the Senators should get their collective heads of out their asses and rescind the formerly-illegal policy of granting patents on computer programs and business methods.
And it's power consumption was a rounding error of the radar power consumption at a 3rd decimal.
Are you claiming that the radar itself uses 10 megawatts or did you just feel the need to post?
What idiot whould put in "hacks" and have to strip them out before begining real work again? You can make copies of a source tree. Fork the code, get it ready for E3, and keep the untouched code in the main development cycle.
Dropping the fork counts as "stripping out" and of course there will be work done in the E3 build that is decent and needs to be merged back to the trunk. Choose your poison, I would not be surprised at all if it is easier to continue the fork. Side note: maybe you should consider not calling somebody an idiot while in the same sentence demonstrating your own failure to grasp the concept?
Linux geeks admit that the open source OS isn't necessarily a better platform for important applications
As a Linux geek, I cordially invite you to speak for yourself, Lam1969.
Others have said it, but the reason is that VXWorks has a smaller footprint.
Ahem. This hack proves the footprint argument wrong by example. I doubt that the purported smaller footprint ever was the real reason, it just sounded convincing... until now.
Picasa for Linux is currently available only in the U.S., with an English interface.
Oops, that's wrong, will be fixed.
Regards,
Daniel
He was referring to that the rest of the world can't download the product unless they use a proxy
Speaking as a Googler, this is incorrect. One of the download servers had a problem which was resolved. Please download and enjoy, wherever you are.
Site now up worldwide?
Picasa Linux version also in Europe
Google did this kind of thing when they launched Google Video too. Does anyone know why it excludes the rest of the world when launching new sites? It's the only company I personally know that has web pages that only work in certain countries.
This has nothing to do with Google policy. One of the download servers had a problem which was resolved. Please download and enjoy, wherever you are.
Site now up worldwide?
Picasa Linux version also in Europe
Lied in court so often that they received three-times punative damages
I think you are passing on unsubstantiated hearsay. From what I can tell, the judge claimed that RIMM faked the prior art, which flies in the face of the fact that the patent office later invalidated the patents based on the prior art.
In fact, IAAL, and I have conducted criminal trials in court. I've been in chambers. And to the best of my recollection, there was never testimony given (expert or otherwise), nor even statements made by non-attorneys without a court reporter being present
Well you will certainly never be my lawyer because you are dense. Can you not distinquish between an investigation and a trial?
RIM lied in court about having prior art
That's what the judge said. Personally, I think the judge lied and has disgraced his profession.
The Patents were being overturned becuase the federal government was putting pressure on the Patent Office to make the case 'go away.'
You don't know that.
-1, baseless
The meetings should still be documented. They should still be open. This is akin to the use of "secret" evidence or witnesses, which I doubt most slashdotters would support (especially if the "evil" U.S. does it). It's the tactics of a kangaroo court.
You obviously haven't spent a lot of time in court. Do you know what "in chambers" means?
"single click desktop interfaces suck bigtime. I sometimes need to be able to select an item, or items, and doing that with single click is annyoying. You can get a system where the focus is given to the item that the mouse hovers over but that's slow to operate. Give me single click to select, double click to operate, anyday."
Ahem. Hovering is a stupid way to select an item and completely unnecessary. It is much faster to lasoo the item(s) by dragging the mouse.
Double-click-to-activate really is a broken and useless concept. KDE uses single click by default and I have never heard anybody complain about that, even ex Windows users.
[Linus] is still the bottleneck in the whole process.
Excuse me, but no he isn't, and this is not because of BitKeeper, but because of Andrew Morton.
Any time he does not spend on kernel work delays the next release.
By this argument, Linus better not take holidays or spend time with his children. Feh.
Ulimately Tridge let political considerations override practical ones and Linus has every right to be unhappy with that decision.
Look, the only person in the whole silly story who is above reproach is Tridge. Linus was stupid. Larry McVoy was unbelievably stupid. And the stupidest of all are people like you who cannot distinguish facts from story telling.
Fortunately, there aren't too many idiots like you still wallowing in the catty hearsay.
"It was widely reported at the time that tripartite discussions were held."
Reported by who? Larry McVoy? To who? The national inquirer?
Do some fucking research.
I have done mine. As the rumor monger, the responsibility is on you to substantiate your claim or shut up.
By the way, did I mention that you come across as whiny? Sorry if I forgot to mention that. Just trying to help.
What use is Trigdell's reverse engineering work now?
Though I doubt Tridge ever intended it, it got us rid of Larry McVoy, who had succeeded in creating deep rifts in the kernel community. That damage has largely healed.
It also gave us Git, Mercurial, Bazaar-ng and acceleration in development on a host of open course version control project.
It has also given us lossless dumps of the 2.4-2.5 kernel BitKeeper repositories, and a bunch of other projects. Anybody with a license can get lossless dumps of any other repositories if they care to, though to tell the truth there doesn't seem to be a lot of interest in any BitKeeper history besides the kernel.
All in all, an entirely satisfactory result for a few week's work.
Tridgell didn't do anything wrong in reverse engineering the BK protocol.
Gee, thanks for that.
But he did insist on continuing the work when informed of the consequences, i.e. discontinuation of the free version of BK
You mean he didn't stop what he was doing what he was entitled to do, even when threatened. But you (Joe nobody) apparently think that Tridge should have given in to the extortion. Luckily for us, he didn't.
Oh, and by the way, how do you know that Tridge was ever "informed of the consequences"? You don't.
and therefore a boatload of work for the kernel developers to replace that tool.
Exactly how many kernel developers do you hear complaining about the amount of work? Oh, none? Gee, I wonder why. Maybe because it wasn't a boatload of work when shared by many hands, and when carried out by clueful people?
Not to mention the loss of that tool for many non-kernel developers.
They never really had that tool in the first place, the license was always a sword hanging by a thread. By the way, Git is in no way restricted to kernel development. Non-kernel projects are already using it, and of course Git is developed using Git.
Talks were held between Tridge, Linus, and BitMover and a compromise could not be reached.
Again, you don't know that, you are just spouting. As I see it, Larry engaged in brinksmanship and lost. Boo hoo.