"We've/.ed the Matrix! Free everyone!" "We've/.ed Microsoft! Free the code!" "Seems the Matrix was running IIS, so why did they have to go through so much trouble trying to defeat it in the trilogy?"
All he's saying is, "don't think we can create a GPL'd program that will operate with this."
In other words, "Mind the Greeks inside that horse."
No one's saying "burn M$!" (at least, no one above +3), but if we're going to maintain compatibility with Word in the office space, in Universities everywhere, and from home user to home user, we need to deal with this in some way. Microsoft has just made that very hard to do.
There's one specifically set aside so that if it's not updated within a week, we must have had an apocalypse, and the righteous have been removed from this plane of existence, and you can let your family know that it was their lack of faith in the One True God that left them here in wonder.
Simple: Debian and LFS (maybe Slackware, I don't know for sure) only consist of GPL'd (or similarly licensed) software. Debian specifically sets aside any software that doesn't fall under that particular category. Even most of the non-commercial ones (Gentoo included; I'm typing this under it now) offer non-Free software. I can install Wolfenstein, Quake3, AOL's own closed-source messenger, and Nvidia's closed-source drivers by typing a simple command and downloading from a mirror that holds only ebuild packages that Gentoo dev's have set aside as usable under their operating system. These are just for-instances. The other free (but not Free) Linux distros will contain similar packages. Hence the 100% in "few 100%-OSS" meant, but I noticed you didn't type that in, which means either your eyes didn't catch it, or like me, you're a little foggy on the Free-as-in-beer/Free-as-in-speech thing. 100%-OSS means 100%Free-as-in-speech.
That's a good question, actually. One can't help but notice that when you tell people "I know I said RedHat was best, but Fedora is the same" it will sound like the whole world of F/OSS is a constant vortex. Comparisons to an unstable Communist regime become more tangible to those who see the movement and the people behind it as on the fringe, radical, irrational...
Still, I don't think it will be helpful in the interview. Szulik's stance is that desktop Linux simply doesn't exist at all, and he's certainly not going to endorse another form.
The best thing to do is to note how people respond to you when you ask them about their own experiences. Be patient and understanding. Report back to the community. Realize that as often as we may see those not 'in the know' as simply being ignorant, they see our non-acceptance of the de facto standard to be the same.
That's the question we're all asking ourselves, of course, but we can't expect anything more than a simple "No" regarding it. Szulik has made his stand as far as *his company* is concerned, and it's up to the open source community to continue furthering itself. Also, the opinions of those using any kind of software have more to do with the success of it than those of anyone else.
I don't mean to cut you down, but your question is kind of redundant. As mentioned above, though, we're all asking it, so I can understand its prevalence in your mind.
This has been addressed. Fedora will be treated like most of the open source projects that Red Hat brings together to make work for their boxed distribution: the main of Fedora will likely be used -- ie, anything that's remarkably stable -- while Red Hat will clearly set their own standard for what will be needed in order to ship that package, and how to make it reliable with the other packages involved.
Well, people said the same thing about CDs, and especially remasters of records: "It doesn't have the same feel as vinyl."
So yes, today we remember the old and have trouble letting go of it, but it will still be there in the form of the old films. Meanwhile, our children (their senses will be spoiled with 7.1ch surround, digital picture, high-res big&flat-screens, etc...) will grow up with the new, and we'll pull out the old *gasp!* *analog* VHS tape of Snow White & the Seven Dwarves, and they will wonder how we ever got by.
Kind of makes me nostalgic for my parents' nostalgia.;)
You mean you really missed it? While the Matrix represents society, or government, or something very abstract that we all feel like rebelling against, the One Ring represents something none of us should ever have, something we would all kill for, and something that could destroy us all. It is not the kind of thing that rappers, h^Hcrackers and terrorists feel like they're fighting against by acting tough and lashing out, but rather what the good and small and weak in all of us must defend against. The two stories are complimentary, but it takes a very balanced person to see that. Not to offend anyone, but having a decent grasp on the meaning of both will make one a very understanding and thoughtful person.
On a side note, I won't see "Revolutions" until Monday, so I'm not sure what kind of depth the Matrix trilogy represents as a whole.
According to that PDF, the cost was 32.3 cents on the dollar, or nearly a third. That's a lot of money considering most college texts are between 20 and 50 dollars. That's 6 bucks off the largest of my lit class books, and 15 off my Java and UNIX books while I was majoring in SE.
Here I'd like to note that I saved on my Shakespeare and Jonson class by finding nearly every text on Project Gutenberg (if you need a link to get there, shame on you!), while even at the used shops they were 4 and 5 pounds apiece (I'm at UWA right now on exchange. Enjoyed the Guy Fawkes celebration on the beach!).
I don't think that's a good comparison. To be fair, I haven't been in coding for a while now, but I do understand a few things.
For one, the APIs for Java are wide open and documented. If something's not working, it's fairly obvious to find it and figure out why or why not. Also, various packages for Java are open sourced and not controlled by Sun. The major applications, as well, are developed open source, or at the very least not controlled by Sun.
Here what we have is an application which is not well-documented, the internals of which are nowhere near open, and the whole of which belongs to one source.
The people who used this got the very short end of the stick, whereas people developing with Java have a large community of both developers and users outside of Sun to aid in furthering Java development.
A story that often raises itself in my head is about a son of French parents who is raised in the US. His father fixes bikes as a hobby. When the son asks his father why he doesn't fix bikes for a living, the father responds that once he gets paid for the task, it becomes a responsibility and not a love. It ceases to set him at ease the way it does when he treats it as a hobby.
Similarly, I'm reminded of Green Day (among other bands), and how their grassroots following and the bars that supported them dropped their support when the band got signed because they felt that a band getting paid to make music was no longer real.
Just some thoughts that popped up while reading your post. These thoughts make me glad I'm an English and Computer geek. I can support one love with the other, or mix and match. It doesn't matter what I do so long as I do it well. I always know that the other monkey will still be on my back when I feel like switching over for a bit.
Representative of the goverment was quoted saying...
Pardon my ignorance, but is the Russian government so unstable that its members can't even be named in a press statement? That is, do we not expect this guy to be in office next week, or what...?
It looks like old enemies are being pushed to the same side of the table, united against a common enemy.
And you will take the evil code to Mordor and destroy it in the hellfire from whence it came, thus defeating SCOron, and restoring peace to Middle-earth.
Not sure where that came from. Had a fun night last night.
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I got a 403, so that must mean...
/.ed the Matrix! Free everyone!" /.ed Microsoft! Free the code!"
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"Seems the Matrix was running IIS, so why did they have to go through so much trouble trying to defeat it in the trilogy?"
All he's saying is, "don't think we can create a GPL'd program that will operate with this."
In other words, "Mind the Greeks inside that horse."
No one's saying "burn M$!" (at least, no one above +3), but if we're going to maintain compatibility with Word in the office space, in Universities everywhere, and from home user to home user, we need to deal with this in some way. Microsoft has just made that very hard to do.
There's one specifically set aside so that if it's not updated within a week, we must have had an apocalypse, and the righteous have been removed from this plane of existence, and you can let your family know that it was their lack of faith in the One True God that left them here in wonder.
Can't wait to get that e-mail.
Gentoo and (probably) Fedora support packages that are not 100%-Free-as-in-speech.
Simple: Debian and LFS (maybe Slackware, I don't know for sure) only consist of GPL'd (or similarly licensed) software. Debian specifically sets aside any software that doesn't fall under that particular category. Even most of the non-commercial ones (Gentoo included; I'm typing this under it now) offer non-Free software. I can install Wolfenstein, Quake3, AOL's own closed-source messenger, and Nvidia's closed-source drivers by typing a simple command and downloading from a mirror that holds only ebuild packages that Gentoo dev's have set aside as usable under their operating system. These are just for-instances. The other free (but not Free) Linux distros will contain similar packages. Hence the 100% in "few 100%-OSS" meant, but I noticed you didn't type that in, which means either your eyes didn't catch it, or like me, you're a little foggy on the Free-as-in-beer/Free-as-in-speech thing. 100%-OSS means 100%Free-as-in-speech.
That's a good question, actually. One can't help but notice that when you tell people "I know I said RedHat was best, but Fedora is the same" it will sound like the whole world of F/OSS is a constant vortex. Comparisons to an unstable Communist regime become more tangible to those who see the movement and the people behind it as on the fringe, radical, irrational...
Still, I don't think it will be helpful in the interview. Szulik's stance is that desktop Linux simply doesn't exist at all, and he's certainly not going to endorse another form.
The best thing to do is to note how people respond to you when you ask them about their own experiences. Be patient and understanding. Report back to the community. Realize that as often as we may see those not 'in the know' as simply being ignorant, they see our non-acceptance of the de facto standard to be the same.
That's the question we're all asking ourselves, of course, but we can't expect anything more than a simple "No" regarding it. Szulik has made his stand as far as *his company* is concerned, and it's up to the open source community to continue furthering itself. Also, the opinions of those using any kind of software have more to do with the success of it than those of anyone else.
I don't mean to cut you down, but your question is kind of redundant. As mentioned above, though, we're all asking it, so I can understand its prevalence in your mind.
The obvious answer to this question will be: we don't want to be hounded to support a free project just because our name is attached to it.
This has been addressed. Fedora will be treated like most of the open source projects that Red Hat brings together to make work for their boxed distribution: the main of Fedora will likely be used -- ie, anything that's remarkably stable -- while Red Hat will clearly set their own standard for what will be needed in order to ship that package, and how to make it reliable with the other packages involved.
Why not commit on logout? It would be easy to append the cvs checkin command to one's .bash_logout config.
http://www.theonion.com/3943/news2.html
Well, people said the same thing about CDs, and especially remasters of records: "It doesn't have the same feel as vinyl."
;)
So yes, today we remember the old and have trouble letting go of it, but it will still be there in the form of the old films. Meanwhile, our children (their senses will be spoiled with 7.1ch surround, digital picture, high-res big&flat-screens, etc...) will grow up with the new, and we'll pull out the old *gasp!* *analog* VHS tape of Snow White & the Seven Dwarves, and they will wonder how we ever got by.
Kind of makes me nostalgic for my parents' nostalgia.
You mean you really missed it? While the Matrix represents society, or government, or something very abstract that we all feel like rebelling against, the One Ring represents something none of us should ever have, something we would all kill for, and something that could destroy us all. It is not the kind of thing that rappers, h^Hcrackers and terrorists feel like they're fighting against by acting tough and lashing out, but rather what the good and small and weak in all of us must defend against. The two stories are complimentary, but it takes a very balanced person to see that. Not to offend anyone, but having a decent grasp on the meaning of both will make one a very understanding and thoughtful person.
On a side note, I won't see "Revolutions" until Monday, so I'm not sure what kind of depth the Matrix trilogy represents as a whole.
Not to mention root^H^H^H^HAdministrator access is default in consumer Windows(es?).
For a minute there, I was like "dude, that's not much hard drive space!" ...but yeah...
According to that PDF, the cost was 32.3 cents on the dollar, or nearly a third. That's a lot of money considering most college texts are between 20 and 50 dollars. That's 6 bucks off the largest of my lit class books, and 15 off my Java and UNIX books while I was majoring in SE.
Here I'd like to note that I saved on my Shakespeare and Jonson class by finding nearly every text on Project Gutenberg (if you need a link to get there, shame on you!), while even at the used shops they were 4 and 5 pounds apiece (I'm at UWA right now on exchange. Enjoyed the Guy Fawkes celebration on the beach!).
"By God, this *does* taste like Gramma!"
ewww...
That's IBM... supplying Microsoft... with PowerPC processors... for a gaming console...?
If anyone needs me, I'll be conferring with my local pastor as to whether or not Hell has frozen over.
I don't think that's a good comparison. To be fair, I haven't been in coding for a while now, but I do understand a few things.
For one, the APIs for Java are wide open and documented. If something's not working, it's fairly obvious to find it and figure out why or why not. Also, various packages for Java are open sourced and not controlled by Sun. The major applications, as well, are developed open source, or at the very least not controlled by Sun.
Here what we have is an application which is not well-documented, the internals of which are nowhere near open, and the whole of which belongs to one source.
The people who used this got the very short end of the stick, whereas people developing with Java have a large community of both developers and users outside of Sun to aid in furthering Java development.
A story that often raises itself in my head is about a son of French parents who is raised in the US. His father fixes bikes as a hobby. When the son asks his father why he doesn't fix bikes for a living, the father responds that once he gets paid for the task, it becomes a responsibility and not a love. It ceases to set him at ease the way it does when he treats it as a hobby.
Similarly, I'm reminded of Green Day (among other bands), and how their grassroots following and the bars that supported them dropped their support when the band got signed because they felt that a band getting paid to make music was no longer real.
Just some thoughts that popped up while reading your post. These thoughts make me glad I'm an English and Computer geek. I can support one love with the other, or mix and match. It doesn't matter what I do so long as I do it well. I always know that the other monkey will still be on my back when I feel like switching over for a bit.
Don't these people learn anything from reading 'Mostly Harmless?'
Well, it's probably hard for people who presumably get laid with regularity to get any book-larnin'
It's rare to find someone who is accomplished as a developer, a businessperson, and a wordsmith.
One nitpick, in case you haven't sent it out. You spelled 'through' without an 'r' in the third paragraph from the last.
The world needs more levelheaded people who can organize their thoughts the way you just did here. For the sake of all of us, please keep it up.
Pardon my ignorance, but is the Russian government so unstable that its members can't even be named in a press statement? That is, do we not expect this guy to be in office next week, or what...?
And you will take the evil code to Mordor and destroy it in the hellfire from whence it came, thus defeating SCOron, and restoring peace to Middle-earth.
Not sure where that came from. Had a fun night last night.
First the cute girl I worked with and got to know (not the kind to typically date a slashdotter) and now the trilogy!
Why, oh WHY did I plan to leave the country for the semester?!?