I say it should be admitted as evidence in the recent court hearings as proof of what the public thinks of Mr. Bill (and his company which is an extension of his being). =)
That said, they should offcourse have backed up their stuff, and after cancelling support, at least have worked out a phase out of the system, with a phase in of a new, better system.
Ideally, you would phase in the new, better system before cancelling support of the old one. Sadly, this doesn't happen all the time and can cause problems. It doesn't appear that they had any sort of plan and calling the six months of typing in data, "training" is laughable. I mean, they could have at least had the data exported to flat files that the PCs could read. They had several months from the time the maintenance contract was cancelled for them to get started on the project. Now, they will get not much of anything done for the next six months. I hope they have those machines on UPS's and are backing them up nightly.
I have, but it required getting a different CD burner in order to create the multisession cd-r. My SCSI burner wouldn't work so I picked up a plain IDE one at a computer show and it works just fine. Also, I think the version of the kernel they are using is 2.4.5, which has a broken version of the RTL-8139C ethernet driver. It keeps reporting 'no medium found' when it tries to load the driver. This apparently was a problem with the driver code in the main kernel tree and was fixed later. This distribution just hasn't added that fix yet (I haven't yet either, so I can't complain). X seems to work ok.
I can't speak for all Indy customers, but that was the reason why the place I used to work at bought them. At the time we had only 2 or 3 big SGI machines with graphics pipelines. Having an Indy on the desktop, we could develop and test gl or ImageVision programs on our own workstations and then copy the binaries over to the big machines for production use. I'm sure SGI used them for their internal developers too. The ISDN option seems like something one would want to have if you were at home and telecommuting (at the time it was introduced anyway). I never saw any product literature touting it as a normal business computer, just an affordable scientific/graphics workstation. Off the top of my head I can't recall any business apps for those machines.
The Indy provided a relatively cheap way to provide programmers a machine that they could use to create applications for other SGI models. One could develop and test gl programs w/o having to stand in line for access to a more powerful machine. All the *nix vendors have or had something similar for pretty much the same reasons.
I don't care if they drink as long as they behave themselves. People will put up with being stuck in traffic if they think they will be assaulted on public transport.
Zero...and it's covered, too. (Who the hell pays to park at work, anyway? Your employer ought to have a lot where you can stick your car...how else are you supposed to get to work on time, every time?)
If I worked in the same part of town that I do now and didn't work for a big corporation, I'd have to pay to park. That alone would almost pay for the round trip fare. I'm sorry to hear that the bus system is messed up there. When I used to use the bus system to get to work, the commute increased from 30 minutes to 45. Being able to relax and read a book (for work or enjoyment) instead of driving was well worth the extra time.
How much do you pay to park? Do you like creeping along in traffic having to watch out for people who don't really know how to drive but the DMV gave them licenses anyway? How much gas do you waste while waiting to merge because one of those drivers caused an accident a half mile up the road? How much more do you pay in insurance because you have to commute in it everyday instead of just using the car on the weekends? Could you use the time riding public transport for reading in order to upgrade your skills to get something better than a $6/hr job? Who knows, maybe driving to work is costing you more than $5/day. People tend to forget the costs associated with driving to work. I guess it's because there isn't a guy demanding a bording fee before you get in the car.
I've been to Las Vegas and the hotels looked neat, but I'm normally a tightwad, so I stayed in the Motel 6 near the MGM. I've never been attracted to the gambling aspect, but I would certainly go to Vegas to spend a lot of money at this place. It was a lot of fun and the air smells like spent shell casings!.
Don't some cities have their light rail systems set up so that the train takes priority over traffic when it comes to intersections so it doesn't have to wait? I seem to recall SLC or Denver setting up their rail system such that whenever a train nears the intersection, the lights change and the gates drop and the train only stops at the stations. Accidents will always happen, but if the person can't pay attention to the big blinking lights, air horns, etc., they are a danger to themselves and other motorists whether light rail is built or not.
I'd like to know if they are going to have some security personnel on these cars, especially since there will be no driver. At least with our buses and lame ass trolleys, the driver can stop the vehicle and take care of anyone who is being disorderly. I wouldn't want to be stuck in a car with people who are drunk and possibly pissed off because they lost a ton of money at the casinos, not the mention the case mentioned above where someone has vomited or defecated on themselves.
He's right. People won't buy a sleek little commuter car like the vw vortex. It's too small and people will quickly label it as a death trap. Many drivers want a huge vehicle with yards of steel between them and the bumpers to compensate for their driving skills. In addition, they won't be able to brag about how much horsepower it has or how much it could pull. Nevermind that the vehicles that are bought aren't used for their full potential. They just haul one or two people back and forth to work everyday, but they _might_ have an excuse to use the 8000lb towing package someday.
VW needs to make them perversely expensive and then figure out a way to make them cute or chic (have James Bond drive one in the next movie or something). Then people might buy them because then they would be able to brag that they were able to afford a Vortex (hey it sort of worked with the Beetle).
Or maybe it was polluted and thought it would be a good way to get rid of a reporter. =)
I wouldn't like cars pumping more water vapor into the local environment. It's too humid as it is. But if it helps the place stop stinking, I suppose it wouldn't be too bad.
If I can get up early enough, I usually walk to work. Not only do I get some exercise, but I don't have the hassle of searching for a parking space. I found a dried up frog once that my kids think is really cool too. The only downside are the people who defecate on the sidewalk or those who let their pets do the same and don't clean up after them.
Sorry dude. Unfortunately for you and anyone else that might actually need one, 85% of SUV owners never take them off pavement and own them as some sort of status symbol. Because the car companies know that the ave new SUV buyer has a household income of $120K or more, the markup is at least three times that of a normal car. It's about as pad with pickups. Most aren't sold to people who actually use them to get work done. The extra profits and classified so that they do not hurt CAFE standings, the auto makers love them along with everyone in the oil industry.
I'm glad that you have a practical use for one. I just wish more people bought vehicles by how they will use them on a day to day basis instead of as something to impress their friends and neighbors.
While knowing that if they were ever really attacked, the US would come to their aid and fight for them. What a deal! Also, I wouldn't say that the US has been putting all available resources into defense. The DOD budget far from being the biggest expense for the US Govt. The percent of GDP spent on defense is only in the single digits (3-5?), but is still twice that of what a country like Germany spends.
The US Govt already owns lots of arid wasteland that would be perfect for this. The only roadblock would be the enviromental impact studies to determine if there are any endangered species in the area and the effect of any waste output on the surrounding area. Since the scientists in question are in Los Alamos, New Mexico, they won't have a problem finding any arid barren land to set up a test facility. The Conressional delegations from Nevada, Utah, and Arizona are probably already fighting to see which state will get the first big processing plant.
So let's say that a movie company is shooting a scene in Times Square and it's supposed to be set in the '40s or some other period in time. The ads would be out of context. If these people win the suit, would they have to stay?
"Wow Marge, I didn't know that Cingular wireless was around in the 70s!" "Yes, they were, you stoned the entire decade and don't remember any of it."
I can see the argument if it is a live TV show claiming to be broadcasting from Times Square and they did some realtime manipulation to the ads. This is fiction, it doesn't have to mirror reality.
Wow. I didn't know nearly half the population of the US is in NYC. It would have to be to out number the 126 million people that live in Japan. No wonder the rent is so high.
No, it's because they have other cash cow products that computer buyers are basically forced to buy to due to OEM contracts, etc. The money from these products allow the survival of the new ones until they good enough for the public to consider buying and become the next required item for OEMs to ship. Before that, they survived because Bill came from a very wealthy family.
Lycoris is based on Caldera, so they just switched out the tetris game with solitaire. If you ask lots of run-of-the-mill Windows users to name a game or two for that machine, most will probably include solitaire. Especially if their main exposure is at work, where that may be one of the few games still left on the machine.
Lots of geeks paid to work 60-70+ hours a week on it? Different parts of OSX had been rumored to be floating around for years (thinking of carbon, & other layers referred to by different colored boxes). I wouldn't mind seeing a timeline or history of OSX. Maybe it's not as short as people think?
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I say it should be admitted as evidence in the recent court hearings as proof of what the public thinks of Mr. Bill (and his company which is an extension of his being). =)
That said, they should offcourse have backed up their stuff, and after cancelling support, at least have worked out a phase out of the system, with a phase in of a new, better system.
Ideally, you would phase in the new, better system before cancelling support of the old one. Sadly, this doesn't happen all the time and can cause problems. It doesn't appear that they had any sort of plan and calling the six months of typing in data, "training" is laughable. I mean, they could have at least had the data exported to flat files that the PCs could read. They had several months from the time the maintenance contract was cancelled for them to get started on the project. Now, they will get not much of anything done for the next six months. I hope they have those machines on UPS's and are backing them up nightly.
I have, but it required getting a different CD burner in order to create the multisession cd-r. My SCSI burner wouldn't work so I picked up a plain IDE one at a computer show and it works just fine. Also, I think the version of the kernel they are using is 2.4.5, which has a broken version of the RTL-8139C ethernet driver. It keeps reporting 'no medium found' when it tries to load the driver. This apparently was a problem with the driver code in the main kernel tree and was fixed later. This distribution just hasn't added that fix yet (I haven't yet either, so I can't complain). X seems to work ok.
I can't speak for all Indy customers, but that was the reason why the place I used to work at bought them. At the time we had only 2 or 3 big SGI machines with graphics pipelines. Having an Indy on the desktop, we could develop and test gl or ImageVision programs on our own workstations and then copy the binaries over to the big machines for production use. I'm sure SGI used them for their internal developers too. The ISDN option seems like something one would want to have if you were at home and telecommuting (at the time it was introduced anyway). I never saw any product literature touting it as a normal business computer, just an affordable scientific/graphics workstation. Off the top of my head I can't recall any business apps for those machines.
The Indy provided a relatively cheap way to provide programmers a machine that they could use to create applications for other SGI models. One could develop and test gl programs w/o having to stand in line for access to a more powerful machine. All the *nix vendors have or had something similar for pretty much the same reasons.
I don't care if they drink as long as they behave themselves. People will put up with being stuck in traffic if they think they will be assaulted on public transport.
Zero...and it's covered, too. (Who the hell pays to park at work, anyway? Your employer ought to have a lot where you can stick your car...how else are you supposed to get to work on time, every time?)
If I worked in the same part of town that I do now and didn't work for a big corporation, I'd have to pay to park. That alone would almost pay for the round trip fare. I'm sorry to hear that the bus system is messed up there. When I used to use the bus system to get to work, the commute increased from 30 minutes to 45. Being able to relax and read a book (for work or enjoyment) instead of driving was well worth the extra time.
Maybe it's from their experience with Sparc hardware?
How much do you pay to park? Do you like creeping along in traffic having to watch out for people who don't really know how to drive but the DMV gave them licenses anyway? How much gas do you waste while waiting to merge because one of those drivers caused an accident a half mile up the road? How much more do you pay in insurance because you have to commute in it everyday instead of just using the car on the weekends? Could you use the time riding public transport for reading in order to upgrade your skills to get something better than a $6/hr job? Who knows, maybe driving to work is costing you more than $5/day. People tend to forget the costs associated with driving to work. I guess it's because there isn't a guy demanding a bording fee before you get in the car.
I've been to Las Vegas and the hotels looked neat, but I'm normally a tightwad, so I stayed in the Motel 6 near the MGM. I've never been attracted to the gambling aspect, but I would certainly go to Vegas to spend a lot of money at this place. It was a lot of fun and the air smells like spent shell casings!.
Don't some cities have their light rail systems set up so that the train takes priority over traffic when it comes to intersections so it doesn't have to wait? I seem to recall SLC or Denver setting up their rail system such that whenever a train nears the intersection, the lights change and the gates drop and the train only stops at the stations. Accidents will always happen, but if the person can't pay attention to the big blinking lights, air horns, etc., they are a danger to themselves and other motorists whether light rail is built or not.
I'd like to know if they are going to have some security personnel on these cars, especially since there will be no driver. At least with our buses and lame ass trolleys, the driver can stop the vehicle and take care of anyone who is being disorderly. I wouldn't want to be stuck in a car with people who are drunk and possibly pissed off because they lost a ton of money at the casinos, not the mention the case mentioned above where someone has vomited or defecated on themselves.
He's right. People won't buy a sleek little commuter car like the vw vortex. It's too small and people will quickly label it as a death trap. Many drivers want a huge vehicle with yards of steel between them and the bumpers to compensate for their driving skills. In addition, they won't be able to brag about how much horsepower it has or how much it could pull. Nevermind that the vehicles that are bought aren't used for their full potential. They just haul one or two people back and forth to work everyday, but they _might_ have an excuse to use the 8000lb towing package someday.
VW needs to make them perversely expensive and then figure out a way to make them cute or chic (have James Bond drive one in the next movie or something). Then people might buy them because then they would be able to brag that they were able to afford a Vortex (hey it sort of worked with the Beetle).
Or maybe it was polluted and thought it would be a good way to get rid of a reporter. =)
I wouldn't like cars pumping more water vapor into the local environment. It's too humid as it is. But if it helps the place stop stinking, I suppose it wouldn't be too bad.
If I can get up early enough, I usually walk to work. Not only do I get some exercise, but I don't have the hassle of searching for a parking space. I found a dried up frog once that my kids think is really cool too. The only downside are the people who defecate on the sidewalk or those who let their pets do the same and don't clean up after them.
Sorry dude. Unfortunately for you and anyone else that might actually need one, 85% of SUV owners never take them off pavement and own them as some sort of status symbol. Because the car companies know that the ave new SUV buyer has a household income of $120K or more, the markup is at least three times that of a normal car. It's about as pad with pickups. Most aren't sold to people who actually use them to get work done. The extra profits and classified so that they do not hurt CAFE standings, the auto makers love them along with everyone in the oil industry.
I'm glad that you have a practical use for one. I just wish more people bought vehicles by how they will use them on a day to day basis instead of as something to impress their friends and neighbors.
The name is wrong too. It should be Society of Cliquish Assholes if you ask me.
While knowing that if they were ever really attacked, the US would come to their aid and fight for them. What a deal! Also, I wouldn't say that the US has been putting all available resources into defense. The DOD budget far from being the biggest expense for the US Govt. The percent of GDP spent on defense is only in the single digits (3-5?), but is still twice that of what a country like Germany spends.
The US Govt already owns lots of arid wasteland that would be perfect for this. The only roadblock would be the enviromental impact studies to determine if there are any endangered species in the area and the effect of any waste output on the surrounding area. Since the scientists in question are in Los Alamos, New Mexico, they won't have a problem finding any arid barren land to set up a test facility. The Conressional delegations from Nevada, Utah, and Arizona are probably already fighting to see which state will get the first big processing plant.
You're overlooking the obvious. The scientists are from Los Alamos. A nuclear reactor produces lots of heat.
So let's say that a movie company is shooting a scene in Times Square and it's supposed to be set in the '40s or some other period in time. The ads would be out of context. If these people win the suit, would they have to stay?
"Wow Marge, I didn't know that Cingular wireless was around in the 70s!"
"Yes, they were, you stoned the entire decade and don't remember any of it."
I can see the argument if it is a live TV show claiming to be broadcasting from Times Square and they did some realtime manipulation to the ads. This is fiction, it doesn't have to mirror reality.
Wow. I didn't know nearly half the population of the US is in NYC. It would have to be to out number the 126 million people that live in Japan. No wonder the rent is so high.
No, it's because they have other cash cow products that computer buyers are basically forced to buy to due to OEM contracts, etc. The money from these products allow the survival of the new ones until they good enough for the public to consider buying and become the next required item for OEMs to ship. Before that, they survived because Bill came from a very wealthy family.
Lycoris is based on Caldera, so they just switched out the tetris game with solitaire. If you ask lots of run-of-the-mill Windows users to name a game or two for that machine, most will probably include solitaire. Especially if their main exposure is at work, where that may be one of the few games still left on the machine.
Lots of geeks paid to work 60-70+ hours a week on it? Different parts of OSX had been rumored to be floating around for years (thinking of carbon, & other layers referred to by different colored boxes). I wouldn't mind seeing a timeline or history of OSX. Maybe it's not as short as people think?