themusicgod1's second postulate:
As any discussion on any topic proceeds over time, the probability of the topic of Technology being brought into the conversation approaches one.
themusicgod1's third postulate:
As any discussion on the topic of Technology proceeds over time, the probability of Moore's law being brought into the conversation approaches one.
themusicgod1's first theorem:
As any discussion on any topic proceeds over time, the probability of rational discussion becoming impossible approaches one.
proof:
technology permeates all topics of discussion, by the second postulate
all technology is related to Moore's law,by the third postulate
IthnkImParanoid's Law clearly states that as any discussion of Moore's proceeds law over time, the probability of someone naming a law after themself approaches one.
IthnkImParanoid's Law also states that at the point someone names a law after themself, rational discussion becomes impossible, and people will begin to flood the thread with their own laws.
:. As any discussion on any topic proceeds over time, the probability of rational discussion becoming impossible approaches one.
Interrim-Solution: To stay Rational, switch topics every once in awhile.
but i am not happy. actually i'm moderately stressed out right now, concerning math. final exam one day from now:/ i hope i'm ready.
of course this has little to do with the topic.
but as for your drug dealer/etc registries point,
i disagree.
there are two problems i find with such registries
one, is that they are currently innacurate to a great degree
two, is that the PEOPLE are not ready for them.
there are SO MANY people who are stuck back in the agarian mindset that religion is good, god will decide, and you shouldn't bother thinking for yourself.
still more are stuck in a medeival mindset, that calls for revenge, bloodshed, against people who make the slightest crime, etc
if one day the populous as a whole can deal with a former drug dealer living in their midst, then mabye we can think about a registry
in my life i've come in contact with drug dealers(how can you not, in a public education system??). they aren't all bad people. hell, most of them are a LOT more honest, hard working, then some of the other capitalists i've met. they will tell you right out if the drug they are selling to you will fuck up your brain. they will tell you that your a worthless peice of shit if you are addicted.
can you imagine mcdonalds saying that mcgridals screw your digestion system and your heart up...and that if you eat mcdonalds regularily you are a retard?
i have also met people who on the surface seem to be descent,.. people really involved in their church, helping people, setting up church events...and yet the more i get to know them the more i realize how clueless, malicious, and sexually perverted they are.
and i lost my train of thought.
i think you emphasize a point that not everyone is told when they get to university, but is not only vital to learn, but is so completely forign from highschool and elementary school that people who have NOT been to university would never think of it.
at university YOU pay to be there, at least here YOU pay a good minority of prof's salaries(33%)...and YOU are resoponsible if/when you screw up, and if/when you succeed.
If some activity is not as productive as you want it, and you are sitting idly, do something else instead! i am getting actually kind of good at drawing since i started doodling in a sketchpad...i constantly do another subject's homework in class...i sleep occasionally(*careful. this idea is only applicable to those who can sleep without snoring...if you bother anyone else with your activities, expected to be kicked out of the class, or crucified by angry students.)...and hope to one day have a palm pilot to connect to my university's all surrounding wireless network.
but generally ALWAYS BE DOING SOMETHING PRODUCTIVE!!!!! if you are far enough to be in university, you KNOW there isn't enough hours in a day to accomplish everything you need to do, nevermind everything you want to do...so EVERY MINUTE is vital.
in a related story, one day i had worked all night(i was working full time while taking a "full-time classload"...ug!)...and when i got to my 8am logic class i was kind of tired.
keep in mind my class had some 2-300 people in it...and i was at the very back, somewhere in the middle....i don't even remember drifting off......but my prof stopped his lecture, ran to the back of the room, grabbed me, and proceeded to physically throw me out of the classroom, saying that people don't fall asleep to his lectures' or something.
i thought i'd be removed from that class for sure, but i showed up the next day, and sure enough, i was allowed to stay(i think...i didn't ask or anything;) )...and EVERYONE had coffee.
[/mildly interesting story]
the only thing i could ask, though, is whether or not the human mind could handle a higher learning pace than a given point. hiher educated people all the way up to stephen hawking have mentioned the sheer mass of human knowledge available...becoming "current" and up to date in a feild such as mathematics, in a specialized area of mathematics takes 12 years of school plus 4 years of university, 3 years of university, 2 years of university...currently.
while what you are saying right now DOES make sense and i DO like the idea where you do draw the line? is this purely up to the people with education degrees to decide? we COULD half the education process. so by oh, 14 you could have a PhD degree equivilent of knowledge in you...but would that be enough? how about _7_ ?
or is this absurd and taking your idea for something that it is not? personally i think i have a firm grasp on some concepts that i just would not have understood at 7...or even 14. but mabye i'm some sort of a retard, or something:/
i think in my university there is really, really lax regulations(at least from what i've seen) on attendance.
and really, you shouldn't have to go...i've taken a course that you describe or two....one of which i either slept through or skipped ALL the classes, AND didn't open my textbook, and still passed with 1% short of the class average(65%)...the other which i went to every class, and took every note written that i could,..
and failed with a mid-40%.
the problem in these cases is the class size of both these courses were the biggest of all the classes i've taken...
on the other hand, classes where class size is smaller, say 20-50, you can ask questions. you can get clarifications. you can get the prof to interact, and to lecture instead of just flipping slides or powerpoint slides. i mean really, if half the class doesn't have a clue, half the remaining class is asleep, that leaves, oh, 5-13 people who are paying attention, and they could probably use the interaction as much as i could.
the smaller class size, the more likely you WILL learn what you have to, given you have time outside of class to do the homework you are collectively assigned, as well as do whatever else you have to do(this is where i screwed up, mostly)
sir, i'm almost 21, and i still havn't masterred math.
given, i'm a second year university student taking (and currently passing:) ) university math courses...
math is a BIG feild. i don't think i've met anyone yet who's masterred it, beyond mabye four profs(each who seems to me to only have masterred a few select, specific areas in math...but i could be wrong on that part.)
careful not to require them to have multiple
PhD's before they get into elementary computing.
i'm thankful my elementary school had apple//'s. even if the teachers were clueless how to use/apply them.
i only wish i could have been let on more often.
as for the topic? what pisses me off, is that schools will spend multimillion dollars on computers'...and then let them just collect dust.
my highschool had the best computer lab in the province, as far as highschools went.
and no one was allowed to use them unless they were with a class and a teacher,..and while some teachers DID use them, not very many did, (which was wise, because they all ran win95 and were as buggy as hell).
and now? they have a hundred or so win95 boxes that are completely useless. their only hope is linux, and they are NOT going to go that way.
want another example? The University Regina has a Media Lab which basically consists of 30 top-of-the-line Mac's. or top of th line for last year. they keep it behind a glass wall that you need a password/keycard to get through...
and guess what? 97% of the time there is NO ONE on these machines. what a great use of tuition and provincial taxes.
summary: if you buy a computer, use it. if you don't want to or have time to use it, set up a secure system on it, and let others use it for you.
ok, what i say isn't completely relevant, because i wasn't accepted into my local dorms until this past fall, when i had allready landed a killer living arrangement in my old boss's basement.
but when i was living on my own in an apartment, i saved power. i mean this. i used leftover candles for light(and usually lived in the dark, worked or slept during dark hours, used sunlight during the day.) i had one computer,(a 386), which i used only when i had at minnimum two things that simply HAD to be done(usually replying to email, which wouldn't take too long). i used cold water to "cook" my noodles in, and cooked coffee when i needed to with a drip-pot(wish i would have thought of what i use now, a drip-pot with a thermos beside it:D)...but anyway, since at the time i hadn't really tried using my fridge or stove, my power should have been at pretty much nothing. i had no heat whatsoever(this is in saskatchewan, canada, mind you...so things got kind of cold...)..didn't vaccuum,and that was it.
what did i find?
i lost a lot of time.
mabye not quite as much time as i would have spent on the internet reading slashdot, but i lost a lot of time. i was constantly tripping on things in the dark, my diet was horrible, so i was continually fainting from not eating enough,
because i had no internet access/a shitty computer i have not really gone as far as i would have liked to by now in the computer science feild---if i spent half as much time wasted living in the dark reading Linux HOWTO's id be a power user by now, instead of still pretty much a noob.
i used a record player for music...etc...i wasn't exactly living a luxorious life.
now? i have three computers, two running, one for backups and hard drive space, the other for my webserver/workstation...the third for experiments...and another computer coming in the mail. the load average of both computers are pretty much constantly > 1.0, and most of my hard drives are 98+% full.
because i use a walkman with rechargable batterries i don't have to flip records every 20 minutes, which is really, really nice. whats' nicer is internet radio...after all, why break from concentration of study to change a cd? why change from the concentration of study to unplug/plug something in? i am sitting here, to the front is my internet monitor/keyboard, to my right is my math study/pile...whenever my mind strays from math i just reach over and google it...if i get hungry, i walk upstairs, microwave something, and go back downstairs... there is so little distraction i have gone upwards of 14 hours of constant, productive work, without so much even noticing that the time was going by...no interruptions, because everything works, and is automated, allowing me to spend more time studying...and that's the goal here. i can figure a way to save money, and be green with electricity when i have a degree.
what is the point here?
don't waste your time plugging/unplugging things, if you can afford it. go for a low power solution, but be aware of your needs, and what would be enough power to live comfortably on. not everyone needs a geek's level of electricity, but a geek does.
jesus man, we are talking about microsoft here.
microsoft, you know, the company with their arm up SCO's greasy ass? a member of the business software alliance? a company that has plead guilty in to monopolizing in a civil court? a company that is actively trying, via drm/tccpa to make it impossible/illegal to use any other operating system? a company that has been pro dmca from the start? a for-profit corporation that has enough cash money to feed pretty much every human being alive for a good couple of years.
let them find their own security flaws, they have betrayed the populous in to many ways to count, and expecting in any way for the people out there to help them out is hipocracy, and just plain vain.
aren't these people trying to dumb down the entire computer feild? isn't this the same company that
forces you to sign onimous eula's before installing any of their products, usually meaning you give up things from the ability to speak freely through your computer terminal, the one's who copyright all material, theirs or not, that falls within their servers?
"microsoft: pay to suck our shit, and like it"
flaky, insecure and purposefully crippled operating systems or programs are one thing, but when the company or group that put's said operating systems, or programs out is also a group of pirates that has been called on everything from supporting frivilous lawsuits, to
widespread fear, lies, and deceit...this is the where the line must be drawn.
if this is giving microsoft a hard time, then more of it is needed.
unless there's small children present...then i'm not really sure...get them doing math or something while you play:P
but yes, apples to apples, hands down.
to debians uber-high standards.
this comes as a total shock...i thought for some reason the kernel used was fairly up to date, the next kernel 2.4.19 for those who want to toy with the new stuff(sarge), or 2.5.x for the people with hardware to spare...(sid)
but i am mistaken, it seems.:)
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that's what i thought. thanks for making me more certian by agreeing, that i have the right idea.
after all, while i've been using debian for a little while, i really have a long way to go before i'm 'part of the community' or even moderately knoledgable about it.
i'm not sure if i'd want a newer kernel or not. i suppose though, if i did want one, i would now know where to go : to unstable/testing
i was using dos shell last year this time.
i too, am using 2.4.18 (flooppy/bf2 build via Debian-Woody). i'm wonderring if there/where is 2.4.20...or if this is something that i'll have to trust the debian people to make sure it's stable before they allow it.
or, i could just go and look for it.
i think i may just do that.
so yes...point of this post: is there a 2.4.20 ?
but i can guarantee you unless you are a member of SOCAN, or have your Artistic Lisence (unless this licence is a provincial thing here to saskatchewan, which i'd highly doubt...)...your chances of getting any of this royalty stuffs is pretty slim.
i'm pretty pissed off at this, actually.
didn't Caesar mention the druids using the very same logic in his memoirs?
anyways what i was going to say, about the entire situation is that this should not be a PAPER vs COMPUTER TECHNOLOGY in reference to the environment, or WHATEVER, but that this should be viewed as 'how can we successfully integrate paper and technology together?'......but then you reminded me to add in the oral side of things...which needs to be mentioned.
using our minds as storage, and as a communication media, to save strain on the environment. there's a concept
is so clearly black and white. I can now look onto the ways of my friends and peers who have assisted homeless shelters, batterred womens shelters, food-for-cheap units, and the like, and pity them, for they accomplish nothing.
I can look on adbusters, the cult surrounding NO LOGO, my local universitie's student newspaper, union, health plan, dental plan, the eff, as completely despotic and fascist orginizations that bring great harm on everyone who is a member of them.
I can look on the entire Debian Linux distrobution and know that they have accomplished nothing, because nothing collectivist has ever done good, and i must actively fear them because they seek to destroy me, as a user.
That the community environment that thekult (direct action cyberpunk orginization) fosterred, and that to an extent still goes on at rantradio(a not-for-profit, non-commercial, independant internet radio station)
must be fought against at all costs.
That everything that isn't greed driven is immoral, and counterproductive.
[/sarcasm]
Sure, there are socialist international orginizations, countries, states, unions, orginizations, communes, cliques and whathaveyou that have gone bad. I've seen examples of all of the above. but this does not imply that everything that is done in the name of collective productivity, in the name of humanity as a whole, or a section of humanity...FOR the good of everyone instead of a select few, is in vain.
there are arguments to that effect, but they are not the ones you appear to represent.
but even Plato was keen to point out that good states inevidibly corrupt, and the dialectic will eventually 0wn you.
Hell even the idea of a _corporation_ itself is slightly solcialistic...
while some people seem to think that in order to be pro socialism in any or all ways, is to think that you MUST be the same sort of socialist that would support the regeimes that have failed miserably, and furthermore, that these same sort of regeimes follow from any other kind of socialism by default when both of these things are false. just as not all countries have turned out to be war-driven imperialist states attempting to conquor the world and enslave everyone...likewise there are orginizations that are collective in ideal that do not end up turning to disaster.
i tend to see the suspended state, either way, as pretty ideal, in case my examples havn't shown this...
socialist infrastructure paves the way for True Capitalist Progress(it's amazing how worker productivity can be when your work-force is not working with broken limbs they cannot fix, and plauge they cannot cure) as one example,
another example a feudal/exploitive/"corpolitical" imaginary fascist prison-state where most people in a country are imprisoned for free hard labour...and then a state within this state building itself up zion style
to house those who are interested in life, in the collective goodwill of themselves, their families, and their communities.
no one in the MIDDLE state would complain about the lack of civil liberty, even if freedoms such as the freedoms of religion and press were not extant.
but no doubt even this state within a state idea i have can be corrupted...
i think i've gone on to far and have wanderred from my original intent somewhat. but make no mistake, your black and white fallacy filled way of thinking about the whole order-of-mankind-orginization leaves a sour taste in my mouth, at least.
the longest commercrial for the showing of matrix revolutions was the a guilt trip on people who rip movies or download them...best part? up until this week i've lived in command-line only---i couldn't see pictures let alone download movies.
i'm not going to download movies.
everything the riaa and mpaa touch smell fuck and use has such a distaste to me after all this that i will hopefully be propelled away from them for a long time to come.
not to mention, when i went to the movie theater for this, although they had a wide open space the size of a standary soccer feild, they wouldn't let me in the theater until the movie started, and told me to stand outside in the -20~C for awhile.
this isn't just a screener issue, all the mpaa customers are being treated as criminals. all of them...criminals, and serfs.
"if you keep treating these kids like criminals,
sooner or later they are going to start acting like criminals"
i've seen that computer, actually, although i didn't realize it was in any way un-natural for a computer of the time...
and i didn't see the lake(wtf) either.
is the lake still there???
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themusicgod1's third postulate: As any discussion on the topic of Technology proceeds over time, the probability of Moore's law being brought into the conversation approaches one.
themusicgod1's first theorem: As any discussion on any topic proceeds over time, the probability of rational discussion becoming impossible approaches one.
proof:
Interrim-Solution: To stay Rational, switch topics every once in awhile.
how about we start by hiring a firing squad to find you and feed you to the hungry? do your part! sign up as canibalism food today!
says it all. you sir are the 0.000001% special case that totally goes beyond all my logic.
:/
and you totally need a laptop, and a wireless network in your university.
it does make more sense that way.
:/ i hope i'm ready.
of course this has little to do with the topic.
but i am not happy. actually i'm moderately stressed out right now, concerning math. final exam one day from now
but as for your drug dealer/etc registries point, i disagree. there are two problems i find with such registries one, is that they are currently innacurate to a great degree two, is that the PEOPLE are not ready for them. there are SO MANY people who are stuck back in the agarian mindset that religion is good, god will decide, and you shouldn't bother thinking for yourself.
still more are stuck in a medeival mindset, that calls for revenge, bloodshed, against people who make the slightest crime, etc
if one day the populous as a whole can deal with a former drug dealer living in their midst, then mabye we can think about a registry
in my life i've come in contact with drug dealers(how can you not, in a public education system??). they aren't all bad people. hell, most of them are a LOT more honest, hard working, then some of the other capitalists i've met. they will tell you right out if the drug they are selling to you will fuck up your brain. they will tell you that your a worthless peice of shit if you are addicted. can you imagine mcdonalds saying that mcgridals screw your digestion system and your heart up...and that if you eat mcdonalds regularily you are a retard?
i have also met people who on the surface seem to be descent,.. people really involved in their church, helping people, setting up church events...and yet the more i get to know them the more i realize how clueless, malicious, and sexually perverted they are. and i lost my train of thought.
i think you emphasize a point that not everyone is told when they get to university, but is not only vital to learn, but is so completely forign from highschool and elementary school that people who have NOT been to university would never think of it. at university YOU pay to be there, at least here YOU pay a good minority of prof's salaries(33%)...and YOU are resoponsible if/when you screw up, and if/when you succeed. If some activity is not as productive as you want it, and you are sitting idly, do something else instead! i am getting actually kind of good at drawing since i started doodling in a sketchpad...i constantly do another subject's homework in class...i sleep occasionally(*careful. this idea is only applicable to those who can sleep without snoring...if you bother anyone else with your activities, expected to be kicked out of the class, or crucified by angry students.)...and hope to one day have a palm pilot to connect to my university's all surrounding wireless network. but generally ALWAYS BE DOING SOMETHING PRODUCTIVE!!!!! if you are far enough to be in university, you KNOW there isn't enough hours in a day to accomplish everything you need to do, nevermind everything you want to do...so EVERY MINUTE is vital.
...i don't even remember drifting off......but my prof stopped his lecture, ran to the back of the room, grabbed me, and proceeded to physically throw me out of the classroom, saying that people don't fall asleep to his lectures' or something.
i thought i'd be removed from that class for sure, but i showed up the next day, and sure enough, i was allowed to stay(i think...i didn't ask or anything;) )...and EVERYONE had coffee.
[/mildly interesting story]
in a related story, one day i had worked all night(i was working full time while taking a "full-time classload"...ug!)...and when i got to my 8am logic class i was kind of tired. keep in mind my class had some 2-300 people in it...and i was at the very back, somewhere in the middle.
the only thing i could ask, though, is whether or not the human mind could handle a higher learning pace than a given point. hiher educated people all the way up to stephen hawking have mentioned the sheer mass of human knowledge available...becoming "current" and up to date in a feild such as mathematics, in a specialized area of mathematics takes 12 years of school plus 4 years of university, 3 years of university, 2 years of university...currently. while what you are saying right now DOES make sense and i DO like the idea where you do draw the line? is this purely up to the people with education degrees to decide? we COULD half the education process. so by oh, 14 you could have a PhD degree equivilent of knowledge in you...but would that be enough? how about _7_ ? or is this absurd and taking your idea for something that it is not? personally i think i have a firm grasp on some concepts that i just would not have understood at 7...or even 14. but mabye i'm some sort of a retard, or something :/
i think in my university there is really, really lax regulations(at least from what i've seen) on attendance. and really, you shouldn't have to go...i've taken a course that you describe or two. ...one of which i either slept through or skipped ALL the classes, AND didn't open my textbook, and still passed with 1% short of the class average(65%)...the other which i went to every class, and took every note written that i could,..
and failed with a mid-40%.
the problem in these cases is the class size of both these courses were the biggest of all the classes i've taken...
on the other hand, classes where class size is smaller, say 20-50, you can ask questions. you can get clarifications. you can get the prof to interact, and to lecture instead of just flipping slides or powerpoint slides. i mean really, if half the class doesn't have a clue, half the remaining class is asleep, that leaves, oh, 5-13 people who are paying attention, and they could probably use the interaction as much as i could.
the smaller class size, the more likely you WILL learn what you have to, given you have time outside of class to do the homework you are collectively assigned, as well as do whatever else you have to do(this is where i screwed up, mostly)
sir, i'm almost 21, and i still havn't masterred math. given, i'm a second year university student taking (and currently passing:) ) university math courses...
math is a BIG feild. i don't think i've met anyone yet who's masterred it, beyond mabye four profs(each who seems to me to only have masterred a few select, specific areas in math...but i could be wrong on that part.)
careful not to require them to have multiple PhD's before they get into elementary computing.
i'm thankful my elementary school had apple//'s. even if the teachers were clueless how to use/apply them. i only wish i could have been let on more often.
as for the topic? what pisses me off, is that schools will spend multimillion dollars on computers'...and then let them just collect dust. my highschool had the best computer lab in the province, as far as highschools went.
and no one was allowed to use them unless they were with a class and a teacher,..and while some teachers DID use them, not very many did, (which was wise, because they all ran win95 and were as buggy as hell).
and now? they have a hundred or so win95 boxes that are completely useless. their only hope is linux, and they are NOT going to go that way.
want another example? The University Regina has a Media Lab which basically consists of 30 top-of-the-line Mac's. or top of th line for last year. they keep it behind a glass wall that you need a password/keycard to get through... and guess what? 97% of the time there is NO ONE on these machines. what a great use of tuition and provincial taxes. summary: if you buy a computer, use it. if you don't want to or have time to use it, set up a secure system on it, and let others use it for you.
ok, what i say isn't completely relevant, because i wasn't accepted into my local dorms until this past fall, when i had allready landed a killer living arrangement in my old boss's basement.
:D)...but anyway, since at the time i hadn't really tried using my fridge or stove, my power should have been at pretty much nothing. i had no heat whatsoever(this is in saskatchewan, canada, mind you...so things got kind of cold...)..didn't vaccuum,and that was it.
but when i was living on my own in an apartment, i saved power. i mean this. i used leftover candles for light(and usually lived in the dark, worked or slept during dark hours, used sunlight during the day.) i had one computer,(a 386), which i used only when i had at minnimum two things that simply HAD to be done(usually replying to email, which wouldn't take too long). i used cold water to "cook" my noodles in, and cooked coffee when i needed to with a drip-pot(wish i would have thought of what i use now, a drip-pot with a thermos beside it
what did i find? i lost a lot of time. mabye not quite as much time as i would have spent on the internet reading slashdot, but i lost a lot of time. i was constantly tripping on things in the dark, my diet was horrible, so i was continually fainting from not eating enough, because i had no internet access/a shitty computer i have not really gone as far as i would have liked to by now in the computer science feild---if i spent half as much time wasted living in the dark reading Linux HOWTO's id be a power user by now, instead of still pretty much a noob. i used a record player for music...etc...i wasn't exactly living a luxorious life.
now? i have three computers, two running, one for backups and hard drive space, the other for my webserver/workstation...the third for experiments...and another computer coming in the mail. the load average of both computers are pretty much constantly > 1.0, and most of my hard drives are 98+% full.
because i use a walkman with rechargable batterries i don't have to flip records every 20 minutes, which is really, really nice. whats' nicer is internet radio...after all, why break from concentration of study to change a cd? why change from the concentration of study to unplug/plug something in? i am sitting here, to the front is my internet monitor/keyboard, to my right is my math study/pile...whenever my mind strays from math i just reach over and google it...if i get hungry, i walk upstairs, microwave something, and go back downstairs... there is so little distraction i have gone upwards of 14 hours of constant, productive work, without so much even noticing that the time was going by...no interruptions, because everything works, and is automated, allowing me to spend more time studying...and that's the goal here. i can figure a way to save money, and be green with electricity when i have a degree.
what is the point here? don't waste your time plugging/unplugging things, if you can afford it. go for a low power solution, but be aware of your needs, and what would be enough power to live comfortably on. not everyone needs a geek's level of electricity, but a geek does.
jesus man, we are talking about microsoft here. microsoft, you know, the company with their arm up SCO's greasy ass? a member of the business software alliance? a company that has plead guilty in to monopolizing in a civil court? a company that is actively trying, via drm/tccpa to make it impossible/illegal to use any other operating system? a company that has been pro dmca from the start? a for-profit corporation that has enough cash money to feed pretty much every human being alive for a good couple of years.
let them find their own security flaws, they have betrayed the populous in to many ways to count, and expecting in any way for the people out there to help them out is hipocracy, and just plain vain.
aren't these people trying to dumb down the entire computer feild? isn't this the same company that forces you to sign onimous eula's before installing any of their products, usually meaning you give up things from the ability to speak freely through your computer terminal, the one's who copyright all material, theirs or not, that falls within their servers? "microsoft: pay to suck our shit, and like it"
flaky, insecure and purposefully crippled operating systems or programs are one thing, but when the company or group that put's said operating systems, or programs out is also a group of pirates that has been called on everything from supporting frivilous lawsuits, to widespread fear, lies, and deceit...this is the where the line must be drawn.
if this is giving microsoft a hard time, then more of it is needed.
Apples to Apples.
:P
unless there's small children present...then i'm not really sure...get them doing math or something while you play
but yes, apples to apples, hands down.
to debians uber-high standards. this comes as a total shock...i thought for some reason the kernel used was fairly up to date, the next kernel 2.4.19 for those who want to toy with the new stuff(sarge), or 2.5.x for the people with hardware to spare...(sid) but i am mistaken, it seems. :)
that's what i thought. thanks for making me more certian by agreeing, that i have the right idea. after all, while i've been using debian for a little while, i really have a long way to go before i'm 'part of the community' or even moderately knoledgable about it. i'm not sure if i'd want a newer kernel or not. i suppose though, if i did want one, i would now know where to go : to unstable/testing
lol. :)
and kudos on the nice computer, too.
that's great. best reply so far
i was using dos shell last year this time. i too, am using 2.4.18 (flooppy/bf2 build via Debian-Woody). i'm wonderring if there/where is 2.4.20 ...or if this is something that i'll have to trust the debian people to make sure it's stable before they allow it.
or, i could just go and look for it.
i think i may just do that.
so yes...point of this post: is there a 2.4.20 ?
one at a time. keep one on him from the moment he steps into your country, until the moment he leaves.
unless you live in the states, at which point i would suggest 'commit suicide' or 'join the kult' instead.
but i can guarantee you unless you are a member of SOCAN, or have your Artistic Lisence (unless this licence is a provincial thing here to saskatchewan, which i'd highly doubt...)...your chances of getting any of this royalty stuffs is pretty slim.
i'm pretty pissed off at this, actually.
didn't Caesar mention the druids using the very same logic in his memoirs?
...but then you reminded me to add in the oral side of things...which needs to be mentioned.
using our minds as storage, and as a communication media, to save strain on the environment. there's a concept
anyways what i was going to say, about the entire situation is that this should not be a PAPER vs COMPUTER TECHNOLOGY in reference to the environment, or WHATEVER, but that this should be viewed as 'how can we successfully integrate paper and technology together?'...
didn't einstein work as one for awhile?
is so clearly black and white. I can now look onto the ways of my friends and peers who have assisted homeless shelters, batterred womens shelters, food-for-cheap units, and the like, and pity them, for they accomplish nothing. I can look on adbusters, the cult surrounding NO LOGO, my local universitie's student newspaper, union, health plan, dental plan, the eff, as completely despotic and fascist orginizations that bring great harm on everyone who is a member of them.
I can look on the entire Debian Linux distrobution and know that they have accomplished nothing, because nothing collectivist has ever done good, and i must actively fear them because they seek to destroy me, as a user.
That the community environment that thekult (direct action cyberpunk orginization) fosterred, and that to an extent still goes on at rantradio(a not-for-profit, non-commercial, independant internet radio station) must be fought against at all costs. That everything that isn't greed driven is immoral, and counterproductive.
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Sure, there are socialist international orginizations, countries, states, unions, orginizations, communes, cliques and whathaveyou that have gone bad. I've seen examples of all of the above. but this does not imply that everything that is done in the name of collective productivity, in the name of humanity as a whole, or a section of humanity...FOR the good of everyone instead of a select few, is in vain.
there are arguments to that effect, but they are not the ones you appear to represent.
but even Plato was keen to point out that good states inevidibly corrupt, and the dialectic will eventually 0wn you.
Hell even the idea of a _corporation_ itself is slightly solcialistic...
while some people seem to think that in order to be pro socialism in any or all ways, is to think that you MUST be the same sort of socialist that would support the regeimes that have failed miserably, and furthermore, that these same sort of regeimes follow from any other kind of socialism by default when both of these things are false. just as not all countries have turned out to be war-driven imperialist states attempting to conquor the world and enslave everyone...likewise there are orginizations that are collective in ideal that do not end up turning to disaster.
i tend to see the suspended state, either way, as pretty ideal, in case my examples havn't shown this... socialist infrastructure paves the way for True Capitalist Progress(it's amazing how worker productivity can be when your work-force is not working with broken limbs they cannot fix, and plauge they cannot cure) as one example,
another example a feudal/exploitive/"corpolitical" imaginary fascist prison-state where most people in a country are imprisoned for free hard labour...and then a state within this state building itself up zion style to house those who are interested in life, in the collective goodwill of themselves, their families, and their communities.
no one in the MIDDLE state would complain about the lack of civil liberty, even if freedoms such as the freedoms of religion and press were not extant.
but no doubt even this state within a state idea i have can be corrupted...
i think i've gone on to far and have wanderred from my original intent somewhat. but make no mistake, your black and white fallacy filled way of thinking about the whole order-of-mankind-orginization leaves a sour taste in my mouth, at least.
you sir, are mistaken.
unless my 16-colour display is hiding something from me, this girl is not only smart as a dolphin, but pretty, too.
kind of wants to make me work harder at math, even for the day...
the longest commercrial for the showing of matrix revolutions was the a guilt trip on people who rip movies or download them...best part? up until this week i've lived in command-line only---i couldn't see pictures let alone download movies.
i'm not going to download movies. everything the riaa and mpaa touch smell fuck and use has such a distaste to me after all this that i will hopefully be propelled away from them for a long time to come.
not to mention, when i went to the movie theater for this, although they had a wide open space the size of a standary soccer feild, they wouldn't let me in the theater until the movie started, and told me to stand outside in the -20~C for awhile.
this isn't just a screener issue, all the mpaa customers are being treated as criminals. all of them...criminals, and serfs.
"if you keep treating these kids like criminals, sooner or later they are going to start acting like criminals"
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i've seen that computer, actually, although i didn't realize it was in any way un-natural for a computer of the time... and i didn't see the lake(wtf) either. is the lake still there???