>With regard to the office suites, if I recall correctly, the Office compatibility is implemented by using the Office 97 procedures as released by Microsoft, correct? If so, then that relied on non-free software to provide this compatibility.
They don't. Koffice and AbiWord, as well as some other library I can't remember, all are done form reverse engineering. OpenOffice got it's support from sun who licensed the specs, but not any code. So all of their implementations are GPLed.
>If I remember this correctly, the 3dfx and ATI drivers were supplied, originally, by 3dfx and ATI. Closed and proprietary. A compromise was made... in this case, in Linux's favor. True.
AFAIK dri for the most part has replaced those drivers. ATI now links to it. (most of the time)
>MPlayer provides playback of various forms of media, true. However, some of the playback, as in the case of WMAs and WMVs still require the use of windows based codecs, again proprietary and non-free.
Yes, some codecs are proprietary. However they are at least redistributable. So they can be included in distros. So at least it is better then quicktime or realplayer. Mplayer now has a totally free Sorenson codec, plus Mplayer plays a LOT of other video files.
>This one I am not familiar with. Thanks for the info.:) If I understand correctly, this would be a GPL version of Flash that does not use the Macromedia proprietary codec?
Yes, you can get it as an rpm that will install a plugin for mozilla. BTW it is LGPLed.
>And if RMS is against the use of non-free software, he should be speaking against Java, especially the gcc version. If I recall correctly, and correct me if I'm wrong, Java was originally released under a non-free license. Therefore, per his argument against Flash and Real, he should be taking a stance against Java period. No ifs, ands or buts about it. It's curious that the GNU project would support Java if this is still the case.
Sun's java is Non-Free. The spec is open. All of those tools are FreeSoftware. GCJ is part of GCC and is GNU software and (I assume) supported by RMS.
>If we went the "boycott all non-free software" route, we'd still be nowhere. As to the claim that I had apparently made that Free Software was causing harm, I may have been understood. RMS's statement that we should email non-GNU compliant websites and have them changed, for example, is where I think he's taking the wrong direction.
Some licenses have been changed. StarOffice, QT, and BSD to name a few.
>Adopting current technologies and implementing them in Linux is what I'd rather see, not a boycott of non-GNU software as his stance seems to be.
> I'm not suggesting RMS do anything. > The whole premise of my post was that I feel RMS is trying to lead Linux in the wrong direction.
RMS wants to lead the GNU comunity, not the Linux comunity.
>Backward. If RMS wants to implement a version of Linux that is completely free and uses absolutely nothing else, then he is creating a barrier. Plain and simple.
HOW?!?! His writing FreeSoftware does not take anything away from anyone! If they want to use his software they can. If not, oh well. Oh, BTW he does have his own distro: http://www.gnu.org/order/deluxe.html
> If there had never been a compromise with the proprietary software market, Linux would not be where it is today.
> No Office support. http://www.koffice.org/ http://www.gnom e.org/gnome-office/ http://www.openoffice.org/ (Yes, Sun opened it. But they did it because enough people said they would only use it if it was open.) > No nvidia support. http://xfree86.berlios.de/4.3.0/nv.4.htm l > No ATI support. http://dri.sourceforge.net/ (These ARE the drivers ATI gives you, they were written by Freesoftware developers.) > No Realplayer. http://www.mplayerhq.hu/ > No Flash. http://swfdec.sourceforge.net/ > No Java. http://www.kaffe.org/ http://gcc.gnu.org/j ava/ http://oss.software.ibm.com/developerworks/o pensou rce/jikes/
Not too much of a set back if you ask me. If FreeSoftware developers aren't willing to use proprietary software, then how are they hurting anyone else? If they then develop alternatives, everyone benefits. If enough of them refuse to use the software until it is opened, and the company opens the code, everyone benefits. It seems like no matter what, even if you don't follow RMS's ideals you'll probably end up seeing some benefit. However if you want to use both Free and Non-Free software there are plenty of options. http://www.codeweavers.com/products/ So just let RMS (and who ever will listen) do whatever they want.
> I, for one, don't fail to grasp this. Obviously from your post you DO fail to grasp this, you just don't realize it.
> Do you believe Linux should be shared? Or do you believe Linux should stick to the shadows? That implies that you consider popularity to be a goal. RMS considers Freedom to be the goal and so popularity to be irrelevant.
Freedom benefits YOU, popularity only benefits you if ether, those people are helping with development, or they are paying you. Because for the most part we are not talking about commercial software, they are not paying you, so your consept of sauces being measured by popularity is an inappropriate application proprietary software's ideals.
Of course RMS and all the other FreeSoftware developers want their software to be popular, more users means more improvements and more developers and more FreeSoftware that you can use. Advocating your "compromises" is essentially advocating that they relent of their philosophy, for what? Money? Fame? more proprietary software? By advocating that they do this, you are making it clear that not only do you not agree with their philosophy, but you apparently don't see how they can believe it themselves.
If you want to write software Free/Non-Free that enables FreeSoftware to be more compatable with non-free software, then go for it. (It's not like anyone is going out of their way to make it hard.) Just don't expect FreeSoftware idealists to spend any time helping you, as they have nothing to gain.
Interesting you should mention that. I know a planetarium director, and they are VERY interested in seeing a few key features added to Audacity. Most prominently the ability to handle many outputs/audio cards simultaneously and set the output source on a per channel basis. This and a few other minor features that you don't have now, are the only thing keeping them from using your software over the $1000+, proprietary, single platform alternatives.
The problem is that while there are perhaps several hundred people with these exact same desires, each of whom would be willing to bay good money to have features developed, their collective buying power is limited. This is because while they can buy software, it is hard to explain to a superintendent that you want to pay to have software developed. (Especially with public funds.) Also even those that know you exist are not willing to jump ship because they likely have something that works now.
The key is to advertise what you can provide, and get the message out to the target audience, and then find a way fro them to pool their collective funds. This is why I think we need like a BountyForge where everyone can contribute to the development of specific features. The real problem with this is simply getting the payment scheme down. (There is a certain mental hesitation to contribute anything, no matter how small the price.)
It is also pretty easy to get caught, since most clerks have pens which can detect fake notes.
DON"T BE FOOLED! Those markers are a fraud! They DO NOT work! They contain ammonia which reacts with starch, which is contained in cheap paper. However why the hell would a counterfeiter use cheap paper? To save money?! Counterfeiting has a higher markup than anything else. If they want to be truly convincing, thy can just bleach a $1 bill and print the face of a $20 on it. Or even use a $5 because it has the silver stripe. So those markers are useless and a waste of your money.
His major complaint seemes to be the fonts. The reason that linux distrobutions can't have nice fonts is because of COPYRIGHTs. (Also many related methods to produce them are pattented.) Mnay of the websights that let yoou download fonts are doing it Illegaly, but because the majority of those copyrights are held by Micorsoft, Apple, and publishing companys, if a distrobution did this they would be sued in a minute. That is why we can't have nice fonts. (And yes OpenOffice is worse because it can't rely on system fonts)
This is improving however with the use of AntiAlising.
His other valid point is where he complains about recompiling the kernel and 3rd party apps. >"I'm a home user, not a programmer. Why on earth should I have to compile the software I want to use?" But one thing that most former windows users are not used to, and are not warned about is sofware in developement. Most linux software is freesoftware and the developement process is open to everyone. So many users assume beacuse they can download it is stable and should work "out of the box". This simply is not, and cannot be true. If you want some thing to work "out of the box" wait untill it is 'in the box' (is included in your distrobution.) The same applies to recompiling kernels. You should never have to! Most distorbutions include a solid kernel with EVERY driver built as a module. The hardware configuration utility should do all the work for you.
I've never had any real problems with modern distros out of the box or with new hardware. However that will olny remain true as long as you don't try to add 3rd party software.
My experience is just the opposite. Where I went to high school (witch was a unusual school I'll admit) out of my calc class (30 students) only 4 had a powerfully calculator (all TI89s). I was one of these students, and I can tell you for certain that the four of us had the best understanding of material of anyone in the class.
Also we all had a far better understanding of the basic principals of what we were doing, and all of us knew EVERY function on the calculator. Personally I read my manual (500+ pages) cover to cover 3 times as well as all their on line documentation.
Though it probably helped that we were forced to show all work, so we couldn't just plug things in and had to do it step by step so we learned the concepts. But when we moved on to the next unit that made you do problems from the previous unit to solve a larger problem, then we could use the calculator for them.
I honestly feel that it was a great help for me. Probably the best $125 I ever spent.
Man, those kids that just plug things in really must be dumb. They can't substitute a letter for the symbol of a Club or Heart and then do the reverse when they write their answer. They deserve to fail!
They have released them and you can view and read about at http://www.lindows.com/lindows_products_license.ph p and download from http://net2.com/lindows/source/
Lycoris, like most modern distos have every driver in the world build as a module so you will never have to do this.
If their hardware probe didn't find something, find out the name of the driver and do a 'modprobe drivername' and then submit a bug report to them saying that it did not install it automatically.
Keep in mind that they don't have the manpower or money to test this on all possible hardware. But if you tell them, they can fix the autodection for other people with your soundcard and they will probably give you some line that you can add to/etc/modules that will make it load on boot.
ever hear of the Little Ice Age? Circa 1400 to 1800, give or take a half century. Prior to that (about 1000 to 1300), temperatures were warmer than they are today.
No, the last ice age was over 10000 years ago not 300.
Not to flame but a lot of similar things do run under linux:
I hope you find this helpful.
Things that Linux has "equivs" of:
Unreal Tournament (runs native)
Simcity 3000 (Loki sold a copy)
Mathematica (runs native right?)
KaZaA (LimeWire also other free equivalent gnutella and napster browsers (is KaZaA still up?))
Adobe Photoshop (The Gimp! I know it took me a long time to adjust to the UI but it's all there if you look hard enough)
Java (sun) (works with netscape 4/6 plugins and in mozilla + konqueror)
My scanner never works right in any distro I've tried... (Same here HP's are weird but Mandrake 8.2 has a great new utility for configuring them. try that)
Borland C++ Builder (KDevelop has improved a lot lately and I hope It will continue to do so)
Good asian support (pick the right distro (Just look on their homepages and see how it looks) there are a lot of Asian users )
Outlook and Access (evolution among others)
Age of Empires and Kings. (I've never played it) (are Civilisation: Call to power, or,Heroes of Might and Magic III, or, Myth II: Soulblighter acceptable)
Columbine Bookmark Merge (keditbookmaks synnks between konqueror netscape and mozilla is that what you want? (galian has a samilir utility))
Corel Painter Classic (did Corel release this on linux? thay did with a lot of stuff)
Weatherbug (I believe there are applets that fetch weather information, is that what this is?)
Other engineering / scholastic programs (really depends on what you want)
Pinball (Never looked but there are lots of cute fun 2d games for linux so I'm sure there is one out there)
Real Good DVD software... (It's OK now and some have menus too, but wait 6 months and it will be truly great)
AnyOne else want to help? I don't know what a lot of these are or do.
IE, what are:
Trillian,CuteFTP,Kyodai,Snood,PSpice,LogicWorks digital logic design,Matlab,Maple,JCreator,Komodo
or does any one know of any equivlents for the others?
ActiveX does not exist and probably never will.
I know that this is not comprehensive. But take it from me, I was where you are now about two years ago.
I had a lot of applications that I Insisted I needed which I had not seen equivlents of, and I spent a great deal of time looking for them. But eventually I decided that a lot of the information I read online was incomplete, out of date, Inacurate (from the places I was used to looking for information), but most of all nobody really had the same situation as me in terms of the software they used/needed.
So I decided that the only way to find out was to dive in head first and see. I got a distro, and set my computer up as a dual boot. But I decided that I wouldn't learn the new system if I kept booting back and forth to do things the way I had always done them. (Boy was that true) So I vowed that I would not allow my self to boot into windows for ANYTHING for 2 months, and learn how to do under linux.
I extended that time at the end, an so after about 3.5 months or so, although I still hadn't really found all the software and things that I set out for, I had completely adjusted and decided not to boot windows ever again. (It was great) I still kept the partition around for data storage until I upgraded my computer then I transfered it all. I've never looked back. I hope you may someday be able to say the same.
Well if you join the Mandrake User club,
you are not just giving them money, you
do get:
Priority access to iso's.
Tech support.
Advance ordering of next power pack.
Club-only download of commercial applications normally
only available in retail products.
Discounts on products and special offers.
(IE: win4lin and boxed versions of mandrake)
Direct trading of MandrakeSoft shares.
Voting rights, special chat sessions with Mandrake team members, etc.
So you do get something in return it isn't just a donation.
read this http://mandrakeforum.com/article.php?sid=1431&lang =en
Really they need to adopt a Mandrakesk K-menu, Mandrake does a great job, and when you add new apps they come with menu entries.
Unfortunately for some reason Mandrake does not store their menu in the same place, over the Kde one, they link to a different place. So they can't just clone the mandrake RMS. However something like that would help a lot.
not quite you have to find the total of all the digits in numbers 1-1000000 not the sum of all the digits of all the posible combinations between them.
You know I've seen this happen several times. I'll be working and someone will come up and say, "oh is this XP" or "Oh, you have OS X on this thing?".
Put anyone infront of Mandrake or Suse that doesent really know computers and they will be able to pick it up just as quickly.
For example I Gave a copy of Mandrake to my brother (who can't afford to buy his own computer) and I was readily able to talk him through the install on the phone (even setting up a duel boot). He knows almost nothing about computers and he decided to ditch windows and use only linux (after just a couple of months).
Those who say 'it is not ready' haven't tryed lately.
In all fairness KDE does do it differently, They use Kparts. This IS a good idea:
IE: You have a 'part' witch is an html rendering engine and a 'file manager' engine and a 'file browser' engine and many more. These just do their job, and have no interface of their own! So you can call or embed any or all of them in any kde app. This way you don't have to reinvent the wheel and each can be well tuned for it's job (not to mention the ability to upgrade or replace individual ones). Konqueror itself is nothing more than interface with the menus and buttons you see. All the 'work' is done by the parts.
This really makes it a much better system, because they are totally interchangeable. For example http://trolls.troll.no/~lars/xparts/ explains how you can instead have mozilla render INSIDE konqueror.
Microsoft has said they will *NOT* release any keyboards and mice for the X-Box. This is because it is already perceived as essencaly a PC by some consumes. (Because of the microsoft name) So if microsoft responds in kind, they may be doing themselves more harm than good.
That said, I think is a smart move by Sony because wail it is really only for developers and real enthusiasts now, at some point it will enable them to;
Include a new hard-disk when the price drops.
Why not have linux on there, setup with a real simple graphical interface, that your grandmother could use? (tuned for low-rez of corse)
Have word processing, e-mail, webbrousing (ala webtv).
Then Sony can; sell the upgrade with the hard disk, and use this to facilitate their network gaming platform with little work on their part.
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OK, just to wrap up this thread:
... in this case, in Linux's favor. True.
:) If I understand correctly, this would be a GPL version of Flash that does not use the Macromedia proprietary codec?
>With regard to the office suites, if I recall correctly, the Office compatibility is implemented by using the Office 97 procedures as released by Microsoft, correct? If so, then that relied on non-free software to provide this compatibility.
They don't. Koffice and AbiWord, as well as some other library I can't remember, all are done form reverse engineering. OpenOffice got it's support from sun who licensed the specs, but not any code. So all of their implementations are GPLed.
>If I remember this correctly, the 3dfx and ATI drivers were supplied, originally, by 3dfx and ATI. Closed and proprietary. A compromise was made
AFAIK dri for the most part has replaced those drivers. ATI now links to it. (most of the time)
>MPlayer provides playback of various forms of media, true. However, some of the playback, as in the case of WMAs and WMVs still require the use of windows based codecs, again proprietary and non-free.
Yes, some codecs are proprietary. However they are at least redistributable. So they can be included in distros. So at least it is better then quicktime or realplayer. Mplayer now has a totally free Sorenson codec, plus Mplayer plays a LOT of other video files.
>This one I am not familiar with. Thanks for the info.
Yes, you can get it as an rpm that will install a plugin for mozilla. BTW it is LGPLed.
>And if RMS is against the use of non-free software, he should be speaking against Java, especially the gcc version. If I recall correctly, and correct me if I'm wrong, Java was originally released under a non-free license. Therefore, per his argument against Flash and Real, he should be taking a stance against Java period. No ifs, ands or buts about it. It's curious that the GNU project would support Java if this is still the case.
Sun's java is Non-Free. The spec is open. All of those tools are FreeSoftware. GCJ is part of GCC and is GNU software and (I assume) supported by RMS.
>If we went the "boycott all non-free software" route, we'd still be nowhere. As to the claim that I had apparently made that Free Software was causing harm, I may have been understood. RMS's statement that we should email non-GNU compliant websites and have them changed, for example, is where I think he's taking the wrong direction.
Some licenses have been changed. StarOffice, QT, and BSD to name a few.
>Adopting current technologies and implementing them in Linux is what I'd rather see, not a boycott of non-GNU software as his stance seems to be.
I'm sure he supports both.
> I'm not suggesting RMS do anything.
m e.org/gnome-office/m lj ava/o pensou rce/jikes/
o just let RMS (and who ever will listen) do whatever they want.
> The whole premise of my post was that I feel RMS is trying to lead Linux in the wrong direction.
RMS wants to lead the GNU comunity, not the Linux comunity.
>Backward. If RMS wants to implement a version of Linux that is completely free and uses absolutely nothing else, then he is creating a barrier. Plain and simple.
HOW?!?! His writing FreeSoftware does not take anything away from anyone! If they want to use his software they can. If not, oh well. Oh, BTW he does have his own distro: http://www.gnu.org/order/deluxe.html
> If there had never been a compromise with the proprietary software market, Linux would not be where it is today.
> No Office support.
http://www.koffice.org/
http://www.gno
http://www.openoffice.org/ (Yes, Sun opened it. But they did it because enough people said they would only use it if it was open.)
> No nvidia support.
http://xfree86.berlios.de/4.3.0/nv.4.ht
> No ATI support.
http://dri.sourceforge.net/ (These ARE the drivers ATI gives you, they were written by Freesoftware developers.)
> No Realplayer.
http://www.mplayerhq.hu/
> No Flash.
http://swfdec.sourceforge.net/
> No Java.
http://www.kaffe.org/
http://gcc.gnu.org/
http://oss.software.ibm.com/developerworks/
Not too much of a set back if you ask me. If FreeSoftware developers aren't willing to use proprietary software, then how are they hurting anyone else? If they then develop alternatives, everyone benefits. If enough of them refuse to use the software until it is opened, and the company opens the code, everyone benefits. It seems like no matter what, even if you don't follow RMS's ideals you'll probably end up seeing some benefit. However if you want to use both Free and Non-Free software there are plenty of options.
http://www.codeweavers.com/products/
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> I, for one, don't fail to grasp this.
Obviously from your post you DO fail to grasp this, you just don't realize it.
> Do you believe Linux should be shared? Or do you believe Linux should stick to the shadows?
That implies that you consider popularity to be a goal. RMS considers Freedom to be the goal and so popularity to be irrelevant.
Freedom benefits YOU, popularity only benefits you if ether, those people are helping with development, or they are paying you. Because for the most part we are not talking about commercial software, they are not paying you, so your consept of sauces being measured by popularity is an inappropriate application proprietary software's ideals.
Of course RMS and all the other FreeSoftware developers want their software to be popular, more users means more improvements and more developers and more FreeSoftware that you can use. Advocating your "compromises" is essentially advocating that they relent of their philosophy, for what? Money? Fame? more proprietary software? By advocating that they do this, you are making it clear that not only do you not agree with their philosophy, but you apparently don't see how they can believe it themselves.
If you want to write software Free/Non-Free that enables FreeSoftware to be more compatable with non-free software, then go for it. (It's not like anyone is going out of their way to make it hard.) Just don't expect FreeSoftware idealists to spend any time helping you, as they have nothing to gain.
Interesting you should mention that. I know a planetarium director, and they are VERY interested in seeing a few key features added to Audacity. Most prominently the ability to handle many outputs/audio cards simultaneously and set the output source on a per channel basis. This and a few other minor features that you don't have now, are the only thing keeping them from using your software over the $1000+, proprietary, single platform alternatives.
The problem is that while there are perhaps several hundred people with these exact same desires, each of whom would be willing to bay good money to have features developed, their collective buying power is limited. This is because while they can buy software, it is hard to explain to a superintendent that you want to pay to have software developed. (Especially with public funds.) Also even those that know you exist are not willing to jump ship because they likely have something that works now.
The key is to advertise what you can provide, and get the message out to the target audience, and then find a way fro them to pool their collective funds. This is why I think we need like a BountyForge where everyone can contribute to the development of specific features. The real problem with this is simply getting the payment scheme down. (There is a certain mental hesitation to contribute anything, no matter how small the price.)
It is also pretty easy to get caught, since most clerks have pens which can detect fake notes.
DON"T BE FOOLED! Those markers are a fraud! They DO NOT work! They contain ammonia which reacts with starch, which is contained in cheap paper. However why the hell would a counterfeiter use cheap paper? To save money?! Counterfeiting has a higher markup than anything else. If they want to be truly convincing, thy can just bleach a $1 bill and print the face of a $20 on it. Or even use a $5 because it has the silver stripe. So those markers are useless and a waste of your money.
No, they didn't die younger. But was no doubt much harder to work on mathematics. Why?
One word Glasses.
Before the invention of Glasses and to a lesser extent Bifocals doing anything that required readding was a young mans game to say the least.
His major complaint seemes to be the fonts. The reason that linux distrobutions can't have nice fonts is because of COPYRIGHTs. (Also many related methods to produce them are pattented.) Mnay of the websights that let yoou download fonts are doing it Illegaly, but because the majority of those copyrights are held by Micorsoft, Apple, and publishing companys, if a distrobution did this they would be sued in a minute. That is why we can't have nice fonts. (And yes OpenOffice is worse because it can't rely on system fonts)
This is improving however with the use of AntiAlising.
His other valid point is where he complains about recompiling the kernel and 3rd party apps.
>"I'm a home user, not a programmer. Why on earth should I have to compile the software I want to use?"
But one thing that most former windows users are not used to, and are not warned about is sofware in developement. Most linux software is freesoftware and the developement process is open to everyone. So many users assume beacuse they can download it is stable and should work "out of the box". This simply is not, and cannot be true. If you want some thing to work "out of the box" wait untill it is 'in the box' (is included in your distrobution.) The same applies to recompiling kernels. You should never have to! Most distorbutions include a solid kernel with EVERY driver built as a module. The hardware configuration utility should do all the work for you.
I've never had any real problems with modern distros out of the box or with new hardware. However that will olny remain true as long as you don't try to add 3rd party software.
> If you ever wondered why you'd want to browse the web in Emacs; it's not for you.
I can browse the web in Emacs!?!? How?
My experience is just the opposite.
Where I went to high school (witch was a unusual school I'll admit) out of my
calc class (30 students) only 4 had a powerfully calculator (all TI89s). I was
one of these students, and I can tell you for certain that the four of us had
the best understanding of material of anyone in the class.
Also we all had a far better understanding of the basic principals of what we
were doing, and all of us knew EVERY function on the calculator. Personally I
read my manual (500+ pages) cover to cover 3 times as well as all their on line
documentation.
Though it probably helped that we were forced to show all work, so we couldn't
just plug things in and had to do it step by step so we learned the concepts.
But when we moved on to the next unit that made you do problems from the
previous unit to solve a larger problem, then we could use the calculator for
them.
I honestly feel that it was a great help for me. Probably the best $125 I ever
spent.
Man, those kids that just plug things in really must be dumb.
They can't substitute a letter for the symbol of a Club or Heart and then do the
reverse when they write their answer. They deserve to fail!
They have released them and you can view and read about at http://www.lindows.com/lindows_products_license.ph p
and download from http://net2.com/lindows/source/
Lycoris, like most modern distos have every driver in the world build as a module so you will never have to do this.
/etc/modules that will make it load on boot.
If their hardware probe didn't find something, find out the name of the driver and do a 'modprobe drivername' and then submit a bug report to them saying that it did not install it automatically.
Keep in mind that they don't have the manpower or money to test this on all possible hardware. But if you tell them, they can fix the autodection for other people with your soundcard and they will probably give you some line that you can add to
ever hear of the Little Ice Age? Circa 1400 to 1800, give or take a half century. Prior to that (about 1000 to 1300), temperatures were warmer than they are today.
No, the last ice age was over 10000 years ago not 300.
Not to flame but a lot of similar things do run under linux: I hope you find this helpful.
Things that Linux has "equivs" of:
Unreal Tournament (runs native)
Simcity 3000 (Loki sold a copy)
Mathematica (runs native right?)
KaZaA (LimeWire also other free equivalent gnutella and napster browsers (is KaZaA still up?))
Adobe Photoshop (The Gimp! I know it took me a long time to adjust to the UI but it's all there if you look hard enough)
Java (sun) (works with netscape 4/6 plugins and in mozilla + konqueror)
My scanner never works right in any distro I've tried... (Same here HP's are weird but Mandrake 8.2 has a great new utility for configuring them. try that)
Borland C++ Builder (KDevelop has improved a lot lately and I hope It will continue to do so)
Good asian support (pick the right distro (Just look on their homepages and see how it looks) there are a lot of Asian users )
Outlook and Access (evolution among others)
Age of Empires and Kings. (I've never played it) (are Civilisation: Call to power, or ,Heroes of Might and Magic III, or, Myth II: Soulblighter acceptable)
Columbine Bookmark Merge (keditbookmaks synnks between konqueror netscape and mozilla is that what you want? (galian has a samilir utility))
Corel Painter Classic (did Corel release this on linux? thay did with a lot of stuff)
Weatherbug (I believe there are applets that fetch weather information, is that what this is?)
Other engineering / scholastic programs (really depends on what you want)
Pinball (Never looked but there are lots of cute fun 2d games for linux so I'm sure there is one out there)
Real Good DVD software... (It's OK now and some have menus too, but wait 6 months and it will be truly great)
AnyOne else want to help? I don't know what a lot of these are or do. IE, what are:
Trillian,CuteFTP,Kyodai,Snood,PSpice,LogicWorks digital logic design,Matlab,Maple,JCreator,Komodo
or does any one know of any equivlents for the others?
ActiveX does not exist and probably never will.
I know that this is not comprehensive. But take it from me, I was where you are now about two years ago.I had a lot of applications that I Insisted I needed which I had not seen equivlents of, and I spent a great deal of time looking for them. But eventually I decided that a lot of the information I read online was incomplete, out of date, Inacurate (from the places I was used to looking for information), but most of all nobody really had the same situation as me in terms of the software they used/needed.
So I decided that the only way to find out was to dive in head first and see. I got a distro, and set my computer up as a dual boot. But I decided that I wouldn't learn the new system if I kept booting back and forth to do things the way I had always done them. (Boy was that true) So I vowed that I would not allow my self to boot into windows for ANYTHING for 2 months, and learn how to do under linux.
I extended that time at the end, an so after about 3.5 months or so, although I still hadn't really found all the software and things that I set out for, I had completely adjusted and decided not to boot windows ever again. (It was great)
I still kept the partition around for data storage until I upgraded my computer then I transfered it all. I've never looked back. I hope you may someday be able to say the same.
Good Luck,
An encrypted filesystem might be enough to convince me...
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Mandrake 8.2 does support encripted filesystems.
http://www.mandrakeforum.com/articl
Priority access to iso's.
So you do get something in return it isn't just a donation. read this http://mandrakeforum.com/article.php?sid=1431&lanTech support.
Advance ordering of next power pack.
Club-only download of commercial applications normally only available in retail products.
Discounts on products and special offers. (IE: win4lin and boxed versions of mandrake)
Direct trading of MandrakeSoft shares.
Voting rights, special chat sessions with Mandrake team members, etc.
It is still there you have to be 'expert' tho.
Really they need to adopt a Mandrakesk K-menu, Mandrake does a great job, and when you add new apps they come with menu entries.
Unfortunately for some reason Mandrake does not store their menu in the same place, over the Kde one, they link to a different place. So they can't just clone the mandrake RMS. However something like that would help a lot.
Yes, you were originally right.
(I was thinking of it more like an odometer) In that each number is only counted when it changes.
BTW: You didn't earn yourself a degree, but just admission to the college.
not quite you have to find the total of all the digits in numbers 1-1000000 not the sum of all the digits of all the posible combinations between them.
IE: the lower numbners repeat many times.
You know I've seen this happen several times. I'll be working and someone will come up and say, "oh is this XP" or "Oh, you have OS X on this thing?".
Put anyone infront of Mandrake or Suse that doesent really know computers and they will be able to pick it up just as quickly.
For example I Gave a copy of Mandrake to my brother (who can't afford to buy his own computer) and I was readily able to talk him through the install on the phone (even setting up a duel boot). He knows almost nothing about computers and he decided to ditch windows and use only linux (after just a couple of months).
Those who say 'it is not ready' haven't tryed lately.
Well if you want handwriting recognition check out the FrontPath ProGear http://www.linuxdevices.com/articles/AT5771747599. html
pretty much the same, only a 400MHz transmeta, but You can get a 6.4 gig hard disk.
In all fairness KDE does do it differently, They use Kparts. This IS a good idea:
IE: You have a 'part' witch is an html rendering engine and a 'file manager' engine and a 'file browser' engine and many more. These just do their job, and have no interface of their own! So you can call or embed any or all of them in any kde app. This way you don't have to reinvent the wheel and each can be well tuned for it's job (not to mention the ability to upgrade or replace individual ones). Konqueror itself is nothing more than interface with the menus and buttons you see. All the 'work' is done by the parts.
This really makes it a much better system, because they are totally interchangeable. For example http://trolls.troll.no/~lars/xparts/ explains how you can instead have mozilla render INSIDE konqueror.
Not to be sinicle but, what distrobution and video card do you have>
Microsoft has said they will *NOT* release any keyboards and mice for the X-Box. This is because it is already perceived as essencaly a PC by some consumes. (Because of the microsoft name) So if microsoft responds in kind, they may be doing themselves more harm than good.
That said, I think is a smart move by Sony because wail it is really only for developers and real enthusiasts now, at some point it will enable them to;
Include a new hard-disk when the price drops.
Why not have linux on there, setup with a real simple graphical interface, that your grandmother could use? (tuned for low-rez of corse)
Have word processing, e-mail, webbrousing (ala webtv).
Then Sony can; sell the upgrade with the hard disk, and use this to facilitate their network gaming platform with little work on their part.