You can get FREE security updates and many bugfixes for something like six years. In the process, they also keep updating the OS installer so that it could be installed on hardware released after the original OS release. Show me a Linux distro that does that either for free or for a nominal ONE TIME fee (when you buy the OS). It is a big thing for organizations that want to standardize on one OS release without having to upgrade and validate all of their applications with the new OS every year.
I agree. I think the government should regulate less EXCEPT when it comes to monopolies because I don't want to be stuck with PacBell as the only DSL provider in the area.
Uh, ever heard of such things as "updates"? I don't know about other distributions, with redhat we get an update in case of a security problem within at most a week since the announcement went on bugtraq (but more often they do it within a day or two).
Can someone explain me how the separate OpenBSD and portable trees are maintaned. Are they basically two separate source trees that get updated simultaneously with the new features?
.. in a gallaxy far away there exited a company called Netscape. In addition to their famous web browser, they made various server products (the web server, application server, directory server, etc) for the enterpise. Eventually, their marketing droids have mis-managed the Netscape brand name (and the company web site) to the point where they had to rename their server division and all their server products into "iPlanet". Then they got transferred to Sun, and Sun decided to use the "Sun ONE" brand name for all of this ex-netscape stuff. Now it looks like they are willing to sacrifice this perfectly fine brand name and to confuse their customers even further by renaming their SunONE product line into SunJAVA product line. At this point this is getting really silly now that you suddenly have products like "SunJAVA Directory server" which have little to do with the Java language other than their terrible admin tools are written in Java (we have decided to dump the SunONE DS in favor of OpenLDAP becaususe of SunONE's terrible Java-based admin interface and the lack of proper documentation for CLI tools even though it comes free with Solaris). In the past they also had to rename their OS (SunOS -> Solaris), to rename their compiler suite MULTIPLE time, and to change the versioning scheme for Solaris and Java. Way to go Sun! I am sure they'll rename this whole SunJAVA product line again in a couple of years. When a company feels so insecure about its brands and renames its products so often, many people including me generally see it as a sign of weakness, and not as an improvement.
I haven't had problems with libtool and apache but I have had all kinds of problems with libtool when compiling other software like PHP. It works well perhaps when you're compiling something on a Linux box which has all the libraries in the LSB compliant places and such but try using it on say HP or Solaris system that has some libraries in non-standard locations.
In addition to that, when I tried it, the "cgid" daemon (which is required for starting CGI scripts when apache is using worker mpm) would die once in a while disabling all CGI scripts on the server. I wonder if they have fixed that bug by now.
The title of this article sounds almost like anti-Fedora/RedHat FUD. It impiles that supposedly Fedora 2 "doesn't work" out of box. I don't know about others, I didn't have to do anything special to "get my Fedora to work" other than changing some settings to suit my needs. Everything that I use works just fine. I have been really happy with all Redhat Linux releases starting with 6.0 many years ago. However, it seems like there has been a constant and still ongoing RedHat bashing campaign in the community, which is being specially magnified by Slashdot. Besides, MS products, I can't think of any other OS that's being bashed as much on Slashdot as RedHat Linux and Fedora. Most of the articles seem to be sensationalist in nature often picking on things that are essentially non-problems or small changes in the distribution and then blowing them out of proportion (the bashing of the RedHat 7.x compilers was a good example). This often has led me to run into system administrators who more or less told me "we didn't even touch it because we thought that RedHat Linux X.X was fundamentally broken because there was this article on slashdot that generated lots of noise".
Sun has made a similar change in Solaris versions in 1999. I am surprised no one has mentioned the Solaris 2.6 -> 7 version jump. To me this move seemed to be more than justified. Sun engineers said that there won't be any changes in the OS so drastic that they would justify a major version number change. So, the 2. part of the version number was pretty much useless. At the same time the Sun marketing was worried about the confussion that would arrise when Solaris reached version 2.10. They have argued that at that point some people will get confused thinking that Solaris 2.2 > Solaris 2.10
Maybe a credit card number that's not 100% clean is that one that has been stolen somehow but you can still go out buy something with it because the real owner hasn't realized it yet....
The Defence department has to realize that computing is entering the era where we just can't prevent the "bad guys" from having computers that are fast enough that they could be potentially used for creating very destructive weapons. Millions of Pentium and AMD processors are being exported around the world. They have become a comodity product, sort of like a digital wrist watch. I'd like to see you to try to prevent the smugling of those processors from countries that are allowed to import them (say Egypt, India, Argentina, or Malaysia) into countries that are not allowed to have them. In addition, a number of computer processors are produced by non-American companies (e.g. Via in Taiwan, Fujitsu, etc). Even if they are not as fast as the fastest American-made CPUs, they might be just fast enough for many uses and clusters of low-cost single processor systems could be built for more demanding applications.
At best, this legislation will have no effect whatsoever. At worst, the American businesses will be seriously hurt while foreign CPU vendors will prosper at their expense.
Those are the only ones I am reading right now. I stopped reading "PC Magazine" and the likes because they're primarily PC/Windows-user centric and they contain too many product reviews and advertizing, very little technical information about anything.
Ok, so approximately 50% of Americans did NOT vote for Bush in 2000, true. However, many of those 50% of Americans still acted as sheep as the government controlled media was feeding them pro-war propaganda in the late 2002 and early 2003. Right before desert storm II started, the Bush administration and its anti-Iraq campaign enjoyed overwhelming support among Americans. And it took perhaps a year long string of scandals and revelations that are continuing until today to finally change public's opinion slightly against this whole Iraq fiasco.
I'll watch this movie on July 4th and ecourage my friends to see it on that day too to show that hating Bush _is_ patriotic contrary to what the right-wing propaganda is try to make the people believe.
However, I feel a lot of people respect slackware for it's founder and the principles in which it is based off of. The KISS principle, for example (keep it simple stupid) is what draws myself to it. No hidden "WTF is this config file?! it isn't in etc!", and configuration is very straight foward. A binary will be in/usr/bin, not/opt/bin/usr/somewhere/in/egypt. They can take the complicated aspects and provide enough infile documentation for you to learn what you are doing.
This argument doesn't stand any more IMHO. It seems like you have just described Solaris (specially, pre-Solaris 8 versions) where indeed the OS binaries and config files often used to live in really strange places. However, in these days of LSB, I don't see anything controversial with the file system layout of Fedora, Debian, or other mainstream Linux distributions.
Anyone smart enough to master RedHat or any other distribution, should be able to adapt their skills elsewhere in the Linux world and beyond in a matter of weeks. (by mastering RedHat, I mean really understand how things work and not just use their GUIs, they're not a requirement to use the system, you know).
Every ape should be able to learn system administation with a home network and some good documentation on his own. The way I view the certifications, they are just one of several ways to prove that you have certain skills.
You're wrong. A supported way has existed since perhistoric times of RedHat 5.0* and possibly even before that. Simply do an upgrade over the network. You will only need the boot floppies or a stripped down ISO that contains mothing but the installer to start the network upgrade.
If your goal is to go to grad school and work in the field of CS theory you might want to take:
Combinatorics, probability theory, logic, advanced algorithms courses, numerical analysys, and other electives that you might think are relevant.
If you want to be an efficient programmer (as opposed to working in CS theory) then you should at least take a discrete math course and one computer algorithms course. In addition, if you intend to do programming for numerical computations (almost certainly you will) consider taking at least one numerical analysis course. Take an advanced linear algebra course if you want to do 3D graphics.
Of course, only with Sun processors, the ability to hot swap processor boards on a Quad CPU system seems to be so useful. After all, Sun processors seem to be failing so often. I have yet to see a Xeon or Pentium CPU fail. With Sun, sometimes they just don't work out of box as shipped by Sun. Sometimes they fail a few months after you buy a system.. and don't forget the embarasing story with failing Ultra Sparc II processors taking down eBay not so long ago and Sun taking more than a year to figure out what the problem was.
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You can get FREE security updates and many bugfixes for something like six years. In the process, they also keep updating the OS installer so that it could be installed on hardware released after the original OS release. Show me a Linux distro that does that either for free or for a nominal ONE TIME fee (when you buy the OS). It is a big thing for organizations that want to standardize on one OS release without having to upgrade and validate all of their applications with the new OS every year.
I agree. I think the government should regulate less EXCEPT when it comes to monopolies because I don't want to be stuck with PacBell as the only DSL provider in the area.
Uh, ever heard of such things as "updates"? I don't know about other distributions, with redhat we get an update in case of a security problem within at most a week since the announcement went on bugtraq (but more often they do it within a day or two).
Can someone explain me how the separate OpenBSD and portable trees are maintaned. Are they basically two separate source trees that get updated simultaneously with the new features?
.. in a gallaxy far away there exited a company called Netscape. In addition to their famous web browser, they made various server products (the web server, application server, directory server, etc) for the enterpise. Eventually, their marketing droids have mis-managed the Netscape brand name (and the company web site) to the point where they had to rename their server division and all their server products into "iPlanet". Then they got transferred to Sun, and Sun decided to use the "Sun ONE" brand name for all of this ex-netscape stuff. Now it looks like they are willing to sacrifice this perfectly fine brand name and to confuse their customers even further by renaming their SunONE product line into SunJAVA product line. At this point this is getting really silly now that you suddenly have products like "SunJAVA Directory server" which have little to do with the Java language other than their terrible admin tools are written in Java (we have decided to dump the SunONE DS in favor of OpenLDAP becaususe of SunONE's terrible Java-based admin interface and the lack of proper documentation for CLI tools even though it comes free with Solaris). In the past they also had to rename their OS (SunOS -> Solaris), to rename their compiler suite MULTIPLE time, and to change the versioning scheme for Solaris and Java. Way to go Sun! I am sure they'll rename this whole SunJAVA product line again in a couple of years. When a company feels so insecure about its brands and renames its products so often, many people including me generally see it as a sign of weakness, and not as an improvement.
I haven't had problems with libtool and apache but I have had all kinds of problems with libtool when compiling other software like PHP. It works well perhaps when you're compiling something on a Linux box which has all the libraries in the LSB compliant places and such but try using it on say HP or Solaris system that has some libraries in non-standard locations.
In addition to that, when I tried it, the "cgid" daemon (which is required for starting CGI scripts when apache is using worker mpm) would die once in a while disabling all CGI scripts on the server. I wonder if they have fixed that bug by now.
Are they back in the business of making Linux distributions? I thought that Progeny 1.0 was going to be their first and the last release.
The title of this article sounds almost like anti-Fedora/RedHat FUD. It impiles that supposedly Fedora 2 "doesn't work" out of box. I don't know about others, I didn't have to do anything special to "get my Fedora to work" other than changing some settings to suit my needs. Everything that I use works just fine. I have been really happy with all Redhat Linux releases starting with 6.0 many years ago. However, it seems like there has been a constant and still ongoing RedHat bashing campaign in the community, which is being specially magnified by Slashdot. Besides, MS products, I can't think of any other OS that's being bashed as much on Slashdot as RedHat Linux and Fedora. Most of the articles seem to be sensationalist in nature often picking on things that are essentially non-problems or small changes in the distribution and then blowing them out of proportion (the bashing of the RedHat 7.x compilers was a good example). This often has led me to run into system administrators who more or less told me "we didn't even touch it because we thought that RedHat Linux X.X was fundamentally broken because there was this article on slashdot that generated lots of noise".
Sun has made a similar change in Solaris versions in 1999. I am surprised no one has mentioned the Solaris 2.6 -> 7 version jump. To me this move seemed to be more than justified. Sun engineers said that there won't be any changes in the OS so drastic that they would justify a major version number change. So, the 2. part of the version number was pretty much useless. At the same time the Sun marketing was worried about the confussion that would arrise when Solaris reached version 2.10. They have argued that at that point some people will get confused thinking that Solaris 2.2 > Solaris 2.10
Maybe a credit card number that's not 100% clean is that one that has been stolen somehow but you can still go out buy something with it because the real owner hasn't realized it yet....
The Defence department has to realize that computing is entering the era where we just can't prevent the "bad guys" from having computers that are fast enough that they could be potentially used for creating very destructive weapons. Millions of Pentium and AMD processors are being exported around the world. They have become a comodity product, sort of like a digital wrist watch. I'd like to see you to try to prevent the smugling of those processors from countries that are allowed to import them (say Egypt, India, Argentina, or Malaysia) into countries that are not allowed to have them. In addition, a number of computer processors are produced by non-American companies (e.g. Via in Taiwan, Fujitsu, etc). Even if they are not as fast as the fastest American-made CPUs, they might be just fast enough for many uses and clusters of low-cost single processor systems could be built for more demanding applications.
At best, this legislation will have no effect whatsoever. At worst, the American businesses will be seriously hurt while foreign CPU vendors will prosper at their expense.
Those are the only ones I am reading right now. I stopped reading "PC Magazine" and the likes because they're primarily PC/Windows-user centric and they contain too many product reviews and advertizing, very little technical information about anything.
Ok, so approximately 50% of Americans did NOT vote for Bush in 2000, true. However, many of those 50% of Americans still acted as sheep as the government controlled media was feeding them pro-war propaganda in the late 2002 and early 2003. Right before desert storm II started, the Bush administration and its anti-Iraq campaign enjoyed overwhelming support among Americans. And it took perhaps a year long string of scandals and revelations that are continuing until today to finally change public's opinion slightly against this whole Iraq fiasco.
I'll watch this movie on July 4th and ecourage my friends to see it on that day too to show that hating Bush _is_ patriotic contrary to what the right-wing propaganda is try to make the people believe.
This argument doesn't stand any more IMHO. It seems like you have just described Solaris (specially, pre-Solaris 8 versions) where indeed the OS binaries and config files often used to live in really strange places. However, in these days of LSB, I don't see anything controversial with the file system layout of Fedora, Debian, or other mainstream Linux distributions.
it couldn't have been said better.
Every ape should be able to learn system administation with a home network and some good documentation on his own. The way I view the certifications, they are just one of several ways to prove that you have certain skills.
.. because of all the ads that use it. It seems like a highly effective way for blocking ads.
You're wrong. A supported way has existed since perhistoric times of RedHat 5.0* and possibly even before that. Simply do an upgrade over the network. You will only need the boot floppies or a stripped down ISO that contains mothing but the installer to start the network upgrade.
* It doesn't work over dial-up modem.
If your goal is to go to grad school and work in the field of CS theory you might want to take:
Combinatorics, probability theory, logic, advanced algorithms courses, numerical analysys, and other electives that you might think are relevant.
If you want to be an efficient programmer (as opposed to working in CS theory) then you should at least take a discrete math course and one computer algorithms course. In addition, if you intend to do programming for numerical computations (almost certainly you will) consider taking at least one numerical analysis course. Take an advanced linear algebra course if you want to do 3D graphics.
The slashdot ranking system must be screwed up, unless I am wrong and my previous post that I am replying to is indeed "funny".
Of course, only with Sun processors, the ability to hot swap processor boards on a Quad CPU system seems to be so useful. After all, Sun processors seem to be failing so often. I have yet to see a Xeon or Pentium CPU fail. With Sun, sometimes they just don't work out of box as shipped by Sun. Sometimes they fail a few months after you buy a system.. and don't forget the embarasing story with failing Ultra Sparc II processors taking down eBay not so long ago and Sun taking more than a year to figure out what the problem was.
A PDA with a keypad usually is not a handheld any more because at that point you can't hold it in one hand and type with another..
I agree. I meant advanced scientific and graphing calculators in my post.