OSS did not become important (mainstream) because people were working on it to make it mainstream. OSS became important because it matured as people worked on it because it was important to them.
Too, I think OSS is Moore's Law applied to software.
Possible research topic there, said the aspiring PhD...
Right. But I think that the case can be made to standardize on certain distros for certain markets.
The desktop end-user really doesn't need all of the bleeding edge tools. Fannying about with compilation and the related configuration issues is a total waste of time when all you needed was a memo. Debian seems like a Good Thing for that market segment.
Looking at the stable package list, I don't see a lot to like for development. The g++ is old; how is it going to compile boost?
That's not a flame or troll, but a recognition that what you want for a development platform is not what you want for the avearage corporate user.
Gets back to the 'right tool for the job' discussion.
How does the functionality of this product differ from Cygwin?
We're actually booting a linux kernel image?
Are hardware drivers otherwise unusable by <open source package> made usable through this?
How about if we qualify that?
The IT economy might not get boosted, but if free software allows companies to spend money on other things besides software licenses, the general welfare is likely to improve.
Though you may well be right, I'm saying it needs to be modelled in some detail before drawing conclusions.
Soon the Enterprise solutions will follow them in the dump because no one will bother learning RH anymore.
Now that's a provacative statement, and leads to the question of whether the demise of RH will lead to a general yawning at.rpm from the community.
Back on topic, SuSE has YaST, right? No experience with that beast (for development purposes, `./configure && make && make install` seems to fit the bill, anyway... ),
but one wonders if deeper pockets like Novell might actually develop a widely acceptable configuration tool...
Can you really call this dropping?
It claims to be a "...community-supported open source project...a proving ground for new technology that may eventually make its way into Red Hat products."
Seems that the support has changed, but Red Hat was always just one support source among many, anyway.
I'm surprised they don't market Cygwin more. Granted, they want you to buy GNU Pro, but a Cygwin for Dummies style book would likely be a way to spread the word.
...puts a lot of pressure on your support systems...
Translation:
Unless your market is share is hefty, you can either manufacture the hardware, and keep tight control of the software (Apple), or support a great deal of hardware, such that network effects carry the day (Mr. Softy).
It's a question of audience. Most of the market really doesn't care if their system treats them like they are intelligent; it prefers to be locked in a Registry prison. Sad but true.
No, the "Render unto Caesar" remark is more appropriate.
The Kingdom of Heaven is completely orthogonal to the political system of the country in which you stand.
My (perhaps flawed) interpretation is that Christiaity teaches a respect for law, and copyright. Thus, I can freely use GPL software where it makes sense, and contribute to GNU buy buying manuals and such, and use Mr. Softy's products at will, as I pay for an MSDN license.
The scary people are the ones on either end of the argument who attack the American-ness, sexuality, and motives of the other end.
Bottom line: Free Speech and Free Enterprise are both American.
That tension exists between the two is just another unfortunate accident of existance. I love you all!
I just punted Outlook.
My main grip is this damn.pst file.
I had an Office 2003 Beta installed, got beat by the 'Activation' stick, and reverted to XP.
(Becuase MSDN Universal gives you almost as much to choose from as Sourceforge).
Suddenly, the XP Outlook can't open the.pst file. And I got $5 says that the difference is a character string near the beginning of the file, but of course, there's no reasonable way to recover.
An unreasonable way to recover was to install Mozilla, and point its mail files to a FAT32 partition that I can mount under RedHat, keeping my stories straight regardless of OS. Highly recommended.
The VC7.1 is actually fairly compliant with the C++ standard. I'm genuinely interested in doing platform-agnostic development in C++ using boost. Next time I light off XP, I'll delve into the boost::regex VC7.1 makefile.
Another highly amusing thing to do with Visual Studio is pull down Apache via WinCVS and see if you can open the project file.
I got errors about corrupt project files, or something. Come to think of it, I didn't use a unix2dos, in case Visual Studio needs CRLF (yeah, gratuitous incompatibility: yeah ).
We'll see.
That 1181 error, and its cousin, 1104, are less than well documented, let us say.
I thought it was my project that was having issues, as I randomly tried crap to make it go, both in the dialogue-maze of the IDE and hacking the.rsp file (kudos for the.html build log--I haven't seen a more aesthetically pleasing example of stuff not working in some time) and invoking link.exe at the command line.
I don't know: this is a stock install, and I used the Visual Sudio.Net 2003 command prompt, which invokes vsvars32.bat, so I'm guessing that the likelihood of Operator Error is kinda low in this case.
But enough of this ranting. It is time to reboot and load a reasonable development OS, because I lack time to dick around with stuff that should "Just Work.", to mooch your phrase, sir.
One OS to rule them all,
One Office to find them,
One.Net to snare them all,
And in a proprietary file format bind them,
In the Land of Redmond where the shadows lie...
I watched my roommie in college waste a solid week of his life on these things. I'm in greater danger from Sid Meier products.
The MMORPG that might be tempting would be an accurate historical one.
What if you could go back in time to, I don't know, Homer's Greece and tool around with Jason ISO fleece?
I hope that there aren't any archeology/history professors on/., because if they teamed up with the right coders, you could have a killer app.
Even more frightening is the threat of the players learning something. Useful. About reality. Fear!
Yeah, but do we really want to see Frank Quattrone cry?
I'll buy if the shares are offered through ThinkGeek. Can we get a free T-Shirt for, say 50+ shares?
True true, yet count(reasons) says nothing of inter-reason dependencies, which was my point.
I'll bow to yours that real-world business decisions rarely have count(reasons)==1, diminishing the value of my point a little.
And yet, let me challenge you: if the sheep don't rebel and simply refuse the next shearing, how will things change? As a personal example, I installed Mozilla, and set the mail folders to a FAT32 partition, so I can look at the same stuff regardless of whether I've got XP or RH9 booted. Had to go with separate but equal files for the Palm stuff, but the Kyocera 7135 makes a decent transfer point for data.
Admittedly, this fails the 'so, what' test, because I'm about the only jackass I know with the blend of experience, obstinance, and discretionary time (he said, noting with embarrassment the number of/. postings to his credit) to deal with all that.
Which takes me full circle to my starting bemusement. The market is entirely to blame for its current state of lock-in. Bill G. is merely the man with the shears, saying "come here, you baaastards".
Steve Ballmer...confuses market success with technical merit
Consider the software marketplace, and the two feedback loops that drive it. One is the Almighty Frogskin* the other is the quasi-academic pursuit of excellence for its own sake. **
I'm increasingly bemused by those who try to see these orthogonal motives as somehow overlapping. They just ain't. Nothing to see here. Keep moving.
*They're no longer purely green...but neither are frogs
**because a shot o' sake, like jogging nude, puts color in your cheeks
My biggest tip, regardless of brand, is to keep that thin bit of packing that sits between the screen and the keyboard when you first unpack your . Whenever you're hitting the road, slide that bad little piece of non-biodegradable love in there, so that your keyboard and/or pointing device (if you've got one of those wee joysticks amidships) doesn't trash your screen.
Which raises an interesting question:
How can companies do things like this filtration, while informing legitimate customers, so no time is wasted chasing bogus errors, while at the same time preserving the integrity of the policy?
This seems like a good thing, until a spammer gets ahold of 'legitimized' addresses, and starts hacking their packets.
Requiring a micropayment for each email seems initially a Good Thing, as a requirement for profit would seem to kill off the casual spammer fairly soon, but that, too, seems hackable, so that you penalize legitimate users and achieve nothing.
There is probably a solution, but we'd have to know the precise value of pi to implement it...
Ask me how I know.
Derive your epistemology. Be concise, thorough, and use an even mix of at least three styles for citation.
Give an even treatment to both Oriental and Occidental thought, from ancient to modern times, and and a healthy dose of Islamic thinkers, so the pseudo-Muslim |-|4>
You have one hour and fifty minutes.
Good luck.
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His requirement that all questions to him on the witness stand be typed into a mouse-less, X-less emacs invocation. No viper, either.
Too, I think OSS is Moore's Law applied to software.
Possible research topic there, said the aspiring PhD...
Right. But I think that the case can be made to standardize on certain distros for certain markets.
The desktop end-user really doesn't need all of the bleeding edge tools. Fannying about with compilation and the related configuration issues is a total waste of time when all you needed was a memo. Debian seems like a Good Thing for that market segment.
Looking at the stable package list, I don't see a lot to like for development. The g++ is old; how is it going to compile boost?
That's not a flame or troll, but a recognition that what you want for a development platform is not what you want for the avearage corporate user.
Gets back to the 'right tool for the job' discussion.
How does the functionality of this product differ from Cygwin?
We're actually booting a linux kernel image?
Are hardware drivers otherwise unusable by <open source package> made usable through this?
How about if we qualify that?
The IT economy might not get boosted, but if free software allows companies to spend money on other things besides software licenses, the general welfare is likely to improve.
Though you may well be right, I'm saying it needs to be modelled in some detail before drawing conclusions.
Which dimensions are, in fact, easily explored. Simply take
this little pill => .
No, the real "worry" is felt by all of the executives and ivory tower types like this one with a lot of MSFT in their portfolios.
Now that's a provacative statement, and leads to the question of whether the demise of RH will lead to a general yawning at
Back on topic, SuSE has YaST, right? No experience with that beast (for development purposes, `./configure && make && make install` seems to fit the bill, anyway... ),
but one wonders if deeper pockets like Novell might actually develop a widely acceptable configuration tool...
Can you really call this dropping?
It claims to be a "...community-supported open source project...a proving ground for new technology that may eventually make its way into Red Hat products."
Seems that the support has changed, but Red Hat was always just one support source among many, anyway.
I'm surprised they don't market Cygwin more. Granted, they want you to buy GNU Pro, but a Cygwin for Dummies style book would likely be a way to spread the word.
Translation:
Unless your market is share is hefty, you can either manufacture the hardware, and keep tight control of the software (Apple), or support a great deal of hardware, such that network effects carry the day (Mr. Softy).
It's a question of audience. Most of the market really doesn't care if their system treats them like they are intelligent; it prefers to be locked in a Registry prison. Sad but true.
...all the way to the book deal.
No, the "Render unto Caesar" remark is more appropriate.
The Kingdom of Heaven is completely orthogonal to the political system of the country in which you stand.
My (perhaps flawed) interpretation is that Christiaity teaches a respect for law, and copyright. Thus, I can freely use GPL software where it makes sense, and contribute to GNU buy buying manuals and such, and use Mr. Softy's products at will, as I pay for an MSDN license.
The scary people are the ones on either end of the argument who attack the American-ness, sexuality, and motives of the other end.
Bottom line: Free Speech and Free Enterprise are both American.
That tension exists between the two is just another unfortunate accident of existance. I love you all!
I just punted Outlook. .pst file. .pst file. And I got $5 says that the difference is a character string near the beginning of the file, but of course, there's no reasonable way to recover.
My main grip is this damn
I had an Office 2003 Beta installed, got beat by the 'Activation' stick, and reverted to XP.
(Becuase MSDN Universal gives you almost as much to choose from as Sourceforge).
Suddenly, the XP Outlook can't open the
An unreasonable way to recover was to install Mozilla, and point its mail files to a FAT32 partition that I can mount under RedHat, keeping my stories straight regardless of OS. Highly recommended.
Yes, but will these uber-specs help TIM with his sexylaid?
The VC7.1 is actually fairly compliant with the C++ standard. I'm genuinely interested in doing platform-agnostic development in C++ using boost. Next time I light off XP, I'll delve into the boost::regex VC7.1 makefile.
Another highly amusing thing to do with Visual Studio is pull down Apache via WinCVS and see if you can open the project file.
I got errors about corrupt project files, or something. Come to think of it, I didn't use a unix2dos, in case Visual Studio needs CRLF (yeah, gratuitous incompatibility: yeah ).
We'll see.
That 1181 error, and its cousin, 1104, are less than well documented, let us say.
I thought it was my project that was having issues, as I randomly tried crap to make it go, both in the dialogue-maze of the IDE and hacking the
I don't know: this is a stock install, and I used the Visual Sudio
But enough of this ranting. It is time to reboot and load a reasonable development OS, because I lack time to dick around with stuff that should "Just Work." , to mooch your phrase, sir.
One OS to rule them all, .Net to snare them all,
One Office to find them,
One
And in a proprietary file format bind them,
In the Land of Redmond where the shadows lie...
I watched my roommie in college waste a solid week of his life on these things. I'm in greater danger from Sid Meier products. /., because if they teamed up with the right coders, you could have a killer app.
The MMORPG that might be tempting would be an accurate historical one.
What if you could go back in time to, I don't know, Homer's Greece and tool around with Jason ISO fleece?
I hope that there aren't any archeology/history professors on
Even more frightening is the threat of the players learning something. Useful. About reality. Fear!
Yeah, but do we really want to see Frank Quattrone cry?
I'll buy if the shares are offered through ThinkGeek. Can we get a free T-Shirt for, say 50+ shares?
I'll bow to yours that real-world business decisions rarely have count(reasons)==1, diminishing the value of my point a little.
And yet, let me challenge you: if the sheep don't rebel and simply refuse the next shearing, how will things change?
As a personal example, I installed Mozilla, and set the mail folders to a FAT32 partition, so I can look at the same stuff regardless of whether I've got XP or RH9 booted. Had to go with separate but equal files for the Palm stuff, but the Kyocera 7135 makes a decent transfer point for data.
Admittedly, this fails the 'so, what' test, because I'm about the only jackass I know with the blend of experience, obstinance, and discretionary time (he said, noting with embarrassment the number of
Which takes me full circle to my starting bemusement. The market is entirely to blame for its current state of lock-in. Bill G. is merely the man with the shears, saying "come here, you baaastards".
Then there is the 'best is enemy of good enough' argument.
Open Source frequently means getting what you pay for...
Consider the software marketplace, and the two feedback loops that drive it. One is the Almighty Frogskin* the other is the quasi-academic pursuit of excellence for its own sake. **
I'm increasingly bemused by those who try to see these orthogonal motives as somehow overlapping. They just ain't. Nothing to see here. Keep moving.
*They're no longer purely green...but neither are frogs
**because a shot o' sake, like jogging nude, puts color in your cheeks
My biggest tip, regardless of brand, is to keep that thin bit of packing that sits between the screen and the keyboard when you first unpack your .
Whenever you're hitting the road, slide that bad little piece of non-biodegradable love in there, so that your keyboard and/or pointing device (if you've got one of those wee joysticks amidships) doesn't trash your screen.
Which raises an interesting question:
How can companies do things like this filtration, while informing legitimate customers, so no time is wasted chasing bogus errors, while at the same time preserving the integrity of the policy?
This seems like a good thing, until a spammer gets ahold of 'legitimized' addresses, and starts hacking their packets.
Requiring a micropayment for each email seems initially a Good Thing, as a requirement for profit would seem to kill off the casual spammer fairly soon, but that, too, seems hackable, so that you penalize legitimate users and achieve nothing.
There is probably a solution, but we'd have to know the precise value of pi to implement it...
Ask me how I know.
Derive your epistemology. Be concise, thorough, and use an even mix of at least three styles for citation.
Give an even treatment to both Oriental and Occidental thought, from ancient to modern times, and and a healthy dose of Islamic thinkers, so the pseudo-Muslim |-|4> You have one hour and fifty minutes.
Good luck.