This certification scheme will rip the guts out of the GPL. That is, the minute I begin tinkering with my software, my ability to interface with the Great PKI in the Sky will be broken.
The resulting hue and cry wouldn't be good for ol' Mr. Softy. This scenario would be such a blatant anti-trust violation that even the Justice Department couldn't sit idly by. You would
See a legal onslaught against it in the courts.
See an illegal, group hackfest to reverse engineer it. Faced with such unethical Big-Brother-ism, otherwise ethical IT people would feel perfectly happy about slinging a pebble or twa at the forehead of Goliath. One hopes that cooler heads prevail in Redmond, and a stable operating point is reached between the Open- and Close- Source worlds. Both thoughts have merit, and a place in the economy (no apologies to RMS), and extreme 'solutions' help no one.
It doesn't run without Windows? I guess you could say it blurs the line/is highly integrated with the underlying OS, but wasn't there just a protracted legal battle based on that?
I knew Kyocera must be up to something. The 6035 is going for only $99. Probably something to do with the Treo... So I ordered the keyboard and USB cable, (the Keyspan USB adapter having mysteriously dropped support for the phone's data mode after an upgrade-- or I dropped the components one too many times) and I'm left to wonder: will the gozintas and gozoutas of this new unit be compatible?
It's really the same thing as Open Source, stated in hardware. If you've the time/interest/skill to cook from scratch, you may well save time and money. Then again, the lack of professional integration might wipe out whatever savings you thought you were going to realize...
I priced out two boxes, a DB and a web server, something like 1GB Athlons with 1GB ram and suitable drives, with supporting cast, at ~1,500. Running Linux, I think I'll be set for graduate studies. Can't say I'd take the same path with mission-critical stuff, e.g. the billing system at my vapor-ware outfit...
Sure, you pony up all this information. Now, if I'm interested in making myself famous, I'll just arrange for the system to have an outage when I want to get aboard for my terrorist stunt. Or will the inevitable hang-ups trigger an airport shutdown? All of the technology in the world just makes the bad guy work harder, at loss of convenience to the casual user. It buys no certain safety. But then, if you really want to spend some money on technology, you'll make the cost/benefit analysis say whatever it needs to...
Slackware should be required for all Linux newbies.
I disagree. Slackware was over my head whenever I tried it--7.x or something. The idea of a fistful of ASCII.conf files in standard locations that control everything was too simple and obvious for me to grasp. Forgive me, Father--I did Windows. Now that I have spent some time with a RH distro, and grasp *nix-think to a sufficient depth, I'm strongly considering a return to Slack...
A question for the community: the reason to go for Slack over, say, Gentoo, is that Slack arrives as canned object files ready to install, whereas Gentoo assumes we have a pipe, time and skill to pull down all the source over TCP/IP and compile from scratch, no? In other words, Gentoo requires a higher level of skill than Slack to build and tweak?
People say software is bad because they are arguing a strictly technical view. My observation of software projects in FAA and DOD realms is that the projects are focused on maintaining a problem, not solving it. Sure, the code itself blows chow; but the software accomplishes its mission of employing the maximum possible amount of people. All this disgruntlement is indicative of immature perspective.
most security researchers withhold their reports until the vendor has a patch ready. Responsible disclosure and all.
And we can trust the serious thieves to engage in responsible disclusure and all, as well. But if you discovered a vulnerability that had potential for $eriou$ exploitation, would you even say anything?
This flies in the face of the reality of software development. Most really successful Open Source software projects like the Linux kernel, Samba, Apache, PHP, Perl and the GNU tools are providing commodity applications which not intended to be particularly innovative in and of themselves, although many are.
Prediction: Open Source dominates infrastructure, Closed Source handles specific markets, where economies of scale are scarce or specific requirements (e.g. performance) dominate. Our beloved polar opposites, BillyG and RMS, remain the stuff of fond/. memories. Maybe Open Source development turns into a journeyman scene, where you have to pay some dues and contribute to the general welfare prior to being hired by a 'serious' company with that fat salary. Such an ecosystem might lead to more useful software. Or not.
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Low poise. Flows freely.
Sorry about your paradise lost, Milton...
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The difference is vast between what the Internet is becoming and how it was once envisioned. Mueller offers little hope that the process can be resisted. "Most likely... the Internet's role as a site of radical business and technology innovation, and its status as a revolutionary force that disrupts existing social and regulatory regimes, is coming to an end." Vested interests rule the day. Mueller does hold out the hope that new technologies and systems are now being born, somewhere, that will attempt to subvert established structures just as the Net once did. The first step for anyone involved with those technologies who might harbor such intentions should be to learn what has gone before, lest the same mistakes be repeated all over again.
...revolutionary force that disrupts existing social and regulatory regimes...
It's an information channel with high viscosity. Where, your revolution? IMHO, ICANN has done about the least-worst job imaginable, and therefore deserves some kind of award.
Offered you a better suggestion, you might be more impressive, sir.
Given yesterday's bit about Lindows boxes at Wally World, can we forsee the Army Of Lemmings (AOL) coming out with a Lindows version that is way beyond groovy, and set about evening the market?
I doubt that they could offer enough to coax me back, and Andreeson's remarks make me wonder if they're forward thinking enough to do that, but it would be cool, particularly if they used the bully pulpit of market share to drive in the direction of W3C standards...
What's so arcane about a floppy drive? Or archaic, for that matter. If your system is completely TU (tits up), and you successfully recover from a humble floppy, you might not criticize it with such malapropisms...
Re:Can it compete with KDE?--better question:
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Should it compete with KDE? How much further would OS software be without all of the effort duplication? If your office is in Redmond, you really have to like all the fragmentation in the OS world. You can sip that latte in comfort, knowing that the competition's lack of focus is your own best friend. Diversity is swell, but not priceless, unfortunately... My vote is that the two efforts drift together, with the paint-and-powder aspects turned into themes. The desktop switcher both Gnome and KDE contain is welcome evidence of this trend. Someday I'll be skilled enough to put a few hours in, instead of trash talk...
"According to congressional workers, the Onion is a publication that never ceases making up false reports," the Evening News said.
Dear China,
Learning how to mock your government is an essential step towards democracy. Sorry you miss the point. Odds are, you'll 'get' democracy around the time the former Soviet Onion does... R, C
One of the OS drums so frequently beat is that there is no absolute authority. Does it not follow that someone, CoderX, with enough skilz/status can just start developing the kernel the way it 'should' be done? There might be a copyright flap, as Linus owns the label 'Linux'. Perhaps CoderX can please RMS by calling it GNU/Xunil or something... Had I the skilz, I'd ponder such a move...then shoot myself...
Three major avenues of approach:
1) impose/provide the browser to the user, so you have a firmer configuration on which to stand,
2) write dirt-simple stuff, so plain vanilla that it is portable,
3) go nuts trying to maintain platform-specific versions of things. What would really be great is if we could train the market to reject MostlySuck products...
Hopefully, a thumbing of the nose at stereotypical let's-line-our-wallet-ism. Could be a defensive patent, don't you think? I buy their distros hard copy because I like open source and figure that's a way to show appreciation. SuSe or Debian might also bear investigation, should their actions get MightyStupid.
I can't speak with extreme detail to Smart Ship--I know the mod retired some very old plant controls, but you can figure that some of the local control hardware remained.
There is also an all-else-failed emergency control box, but, AFAIR, you wouldn't use that, as its torque computer wasn't as robust. The fun thing about marine gas turbine plants, compared to a boiler, is that you only have a close approximate guess of output torque. Inputs to the torque computation are things like air temperature and humidity in, strain guages on the shaft, throttle position, and gas generator RPM. Your output speed is limited to what the controllable pitch propeller can take...
Finally, that shore power plant is arguably more complicated, but a warship plant isn't exactly simple, either. If you live near a Navy base, go get an impromtu tour. Real squids are happy to show the taxpayer where at least a sliver of their money goes...
Having an Engineering Officer of the Watch (EOOW) qualification on the ship class in question, you really wouldn't want to reboot unless you had absolute understanding of the bug, or an emergency of higher magnitude than risking lightoff.
Crashing the plant control system, AKA "Going cold and dark" is _not_ a nice thing to do to a multi-million dollar engineering plant. Such an event is tantamount to being on an interstate in your SUV, with traffic, reaching down, and placing the ignitioin key in the 'off' position.
Instead, you curse the names of the guilty, send a terse CASREP (casualty report), and await the sea-going tug of shame.
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The resulting hue and cry wouldn't be good for ol' Mr. Softy.
This scenario would be such a blatant anti-trust violation that even the Justice Department couldn't sit idly by. You would
See a legal onslaught against it in the courts.
See an illegal, group hackfest to reverse engineer it. Faced with such unethical Big-Brother-ism, otherwise ethical IT people would feel perfectly happy about slinging a pebble or twa at the forehead of Goliath.
One hopes that cooler heads prevail in Redmond, and a stable operating point is reached between the Open- and Close- Source worlds. Both thoughts have merit, and a place in the economy (no apologies to RMS), and extreme 'solutions' help no one.
It doesn't run without Windows?
I guess you could say it blurs the line/is highly integrated with the underlying OS, but wasn't there just a protracted legal battle based on that?
I knew Kyocera must be up to something. The 6035 is going for only $99. Probably something to do with the Treo...
So I ordered the keyboard and USB cable, (the Keyspan USB adapter
having mysteriously dropped support for the phone's data mode after an upgrade--
or I dropped the components one too many times)
and I'm left to wonder: will the gozintas and gozoutas of this new unit be compatible?
It's really the same thing as Open Source, stated in hardware.
If you've the time/interest/skill to cook from scratch, you may well save time and money.
Then again, the lack of professional integration might wipe out whatever savings you thought you were going to realize...
I priced out two boxes, a DB and a web server, something like 1GB Athlons with 1GB ram and suitable drives, with supporting cast, at ~1,500.
Running Linux, I think I'll be set for graduate studies.
Can't say I'd take the same path with mission-critical stuff, e.g. the billing system at my vapor-ware outfit...
Sure, you pony up all this information.
Now, if I'm interested in making myself famous, I'll just arrange for the system to have an outage when I want to get aboard for my terrorist stunt.
Or will the inevitable hang-ups trigger an airport shutdown?
All of the technology in the world just makes the bad guy work harder, at loss of convenience to the casual user.
It buys no certain safety.
But then, if you really want to spend some money on technology,
you'll make the cost/benefit analysis say whatever it needs to...
Slackware should be required for all Linux newbies.
.conf files in standard locations that control everything was too simple and obvious for me to grasp. Forgive me, Father--I did Windows.
...dons asbestos underwear...
I disagree. Slackware was over my head whenever I tried it--7.x or something. The idea of a fistful of ASCII
Now that I have spent some time with a RH distro, and grasp *nix-think to a sufficient depth, I'm strongly considering a return to Slack...
A question for the community: the reason to go for Slack over, say, Gentoo, is that Slack arrives as canned object files ready to install, whereas Gentoo assumes we have a pipe, time and skill to pull down all the source over TCP/IP and compile from scratch, no? In other words, Gentoo requires a higher level of skill than Slack to build and tweak?
People say software is bad because they are arguing a strictly technical view.
My observation of software projects in FAA and DOD realms is that the projects are focused on
maintaining a problem, not solving it.
Sure, the code itself blows chow; but the software accomplishes its mission of
employing the maximum possible amount of people.
All this disgruntlement is indicative of immature perspective.
put out a branded AOL on those Lindows boxen down at Wally World, you could be in a browser war zone...
And we can trust the serious thieves to engage in responsible disclusure and all, as well.
But if you discovered a vulnerability that had potential for $eriou$ exploitation, would you even say anything?
Prediction:
Open Source dominates infrastructure,
Closed Source handles specific markets, where economies of scale are scarce or specific requirements (e.g. performance) dominate.
Our beloved polar opposites, BillyG and RMS, remain the stuff of fond
Maybe Open Source development turns into a journeyman scene,
where you have to pay some dues and contribute to the general welfare prior
to being hired by a 'serious' company with that fat salary. Such an ecosystem might lead to more useful software. Or not.
Low poise.
Flows freely.
It's an information channel with high viscosity. Where, your revolution?
IMHO, ICANN has done about the least-worst job imaginable, and therefore deserves some kind of award.
Offered you a better suggestion, you might be more impressive, sir.
Given yesterday's bit about Lindows boxes at Wally World, can we forsee the Army Of Lemmings (AOL) coming out with a Lindows version that is way beyond groovy, and set about evening the market?
I doubt that they could offer enough to coax me back, and Andreeson's remarks make me wonder if they're forward thinking enough to do that, but it would be cool, particularly if they used the bully pulpit of market share to drive in the direction of W3C standards...
What's so arcane about a floppy drive?
Or archaic, for that matter. If your system is completely TU (tits up), and you successfully recover from a humble floppy, you might not criticize it with such malapropisms...
Should it compete with KDE?
How much further would OS software be without all of the effort duplication?
If your office is in Redmond, you really have to like all the fragmentation in the OS world. You can sip that latte in comfort, knowing that the competition's lack of focus is your own best friend.
Diversity is swell, but not priceless, unfortunately...
My vote is that the two efforts drift together, with the paint-and-powder aspects turned into themes. The desktop switcher both Gnome and KDE contain is welcome evidence of this trend.
Someday I'll be skilled enough to put a few hours in, instead of trash talk...
Dear China,
Learning how to mock your government is an essential step towards democracy. Sorry you miss the point. Odds are, you'll 'get' democracy around the time the former Soviet Onion does...
R,
C
One of the OS drums so frequently beat is that there is no absolute authority.
Does it not follow that someone, CoderX, with enough skilz/status can just start developing the kernel the way it 'should' be done?
There might be a copyright flap, as Linus owns the label 'Linux'. Perhaps CoderX can please RMS by calling it GNU/Xunil or something...
Had I the skilz, I'd ponder such a move...then shoot myself...
Three major avenues of approach:
1) impose/provide the browser to the user, so you have a firmer configuration on which to stand,
2) write dirt-simple stuff, so plain vanilla that it is portable,
3) go nuts trying to maintain platform-specific versions of things.
What would really be great is if we could train the market to reject MostlySuck products...
Or you suddenly discover you've defaulted on some big real estate deals/car purchases...
Hopefully, a thumbing of the nose at stereotypical let's-line-our-wallet-ism.
Could be a defensive patent, don't you think?
I buy their distros hard copy because I like open source and figure that's a way to show appreciation.
SuSe or Debian might also bear investigation, should their actions get MightyStupid.
I can't speak with extreme detail to Smart Ship--I know the mod retired some very old plant controls, but you can figure that some of the local control hardware remained.
There is also an all-else-failed emergency control box, but, AFAIR, you wouldn't use that, as its torque computer wasn't as robust.
The fun thing about marine gas turbine plants, compared to a boiler, is that you only have a close approximate guess of output torque. Inputs to the torque computation are things like air temperature and humidity in, strain guages on the shaft, throttle position, and gas generator RPM. Your output speed is limited to what the controllable pitch propeller can take...
Finally, that shore power plant is arguably more complicated, but a warship plant isn't exactly simple, either. If you live near a Navy base, go get an impromtu tour. Real squids are happy to show the taxpayer where at least a sliver of their money goes...
Having an Engineering Officer of the Watch (EOOW) qualification on the ship class in question, you really wouldn't want to reboot unless you had absolute understanding of the bug, or an emergency of higher magnitude than risking lightoff.
Crashing the plant control system, AKA "Going cold and dark" is _not_ a nice thing to do to a multi-million dollar engineering plant. Such an event is tantamount to being on an interstate in your SUV, with traffic, reaching down, and placing the ignitioin key in the 'off' position.
Instead, you curse the names of the guilty, send a terse CASREP (casualty report), and await the sea-going tug of shame.
-->The Earthlink browser is a crime against humanity!
No hyperbole here...
It's just another way to do it. I admit I like Konqueror a little better: the ability to take a detailed look at them cookies is fun.
I like Idiot Explorer's F11 trick of hiding all the interface paraphernalia...
Earthlink's handling of pop-under ads could be improved. I'm more irritated by the tabs doing gymnastics than anything else...
Earthlink.
And what if the next perl is truly a diamond, and smokes your Ruby?