Please note that actual professionals, and not just ranting pseudonymous Slashdotters with no better arguments than repeating the PR party line, agree with my point.
All you have brought to the table is "you're stupid for not paying 5 bucks to unbreak Windows 8". Arguing by repeated assertion does not win you points.
And as for civility? You have shown none, you will get none. You're a moron deeply in need of therapy to get rid of your codependence on Microsoft.
That's because IT is suffused with a teenage culture that equates 'old' with 'useless'.
Being able to spew the buzzwords related to the newest fad seems to be a requirement for a dev job these days.
It doesn't help that the industry as a whole (especially in the US) seems to prey on young naive workers and likes to keep them that way in order to extract the maximum profit out of them.
You know, what does that make someone who posts outraged screeds when confronted with criticism of Windows 8? So outraged that could almost feel the spittle coming out of the monitor on my end.
That's either someone with his life invested in a Microsoft product, or a complete nutjob.
As for your 20% speed increase? Here's a nickel kid, go buy yourself a real operating system.
Tell me then, if you're not a PR flack, just why are you so invested in a Microsoft product that you have to continuously have to write humongous screeds to defend every minor criticism?
Do you realise how utterly deranged you appear to sane people? This is beyond "You're holding it wrong" levels.
You just told me to pay 5 dollars to get back to the way I used to launch programs in Windows. No amount of text is going to convince anyone that that is sheer stupidity, change for the sake of change, and that you are not a Microsoft shill.
Yes, it's not much of a qualifier, and that's because that is the major pain dealing with Dell, making sure that you know what you have and how to make sure that Dell is not going to send you an incompatible part.
Aside from that, I've dealt with worse support teams. Such as $BIG_UNIX_VENDOR, who insisted on every call that our products were under Gold support, whereas our company had a company-wide Platinum contract. Every support call took at least half an hour wrangling about it, and that was if you had the contract number at the ready.
Well, yes, that's the minimum acceptable standard of support, I agree completely.
I was implying that the OP is on his own. He decided to mess around on a device without ensuring the minimal support was in place, or deliberately ignoring the lack of support, so now it broke, he gets to keep both pieces.
My experience with Dell is that if this happens on a product that's still supported, they'll ship a replacement part immediately, by courier, no questions asked.
In my experience you should only upgrade to the latest version if the vendor can prove, with the issue number in hand, that that particular version solves whatever problem you're having.
In all other cases smart administration says don't upgrade unless you have a reason.
The only problem is that first-line support for almost all vendors I ever spoke with has a script that tells the customer to upgrade; you earn your money as an administrator if you can convince them that, no, this is not an acceptable answer.
Nonsense. Dell's Pro Support is reasonably good, especially once you get past the first line.
The major problem I have had with Dell is their insistence on doing fast model upgrades and giving lower-quality support on superseded hardware SKUs; not to mention their lousy habit of upgrading the hardware but continuing to use the same model number in their catalogue.
So if I am working from home, how do you propose I send mail using my corporate address? With strict SPF, the old Best Practice, handing it over to my ISP relay, breaks.
If your answer is to set up a VPN to work, I say fuck that shit. SPF is a broken solution searching for a problem.
And in the meantime SPF breaks mail for everyone whose email address is not hosted on the domain of the sending server. In other words, everyone who wants to send mail from their home PC with the From: address set to their webmail address through their ISPs mailserver.
If a technology breaks mail so fundamentally that an end user using best practices gets their email rejected, then the technology is broken.
And again you make two errors in your understanding of Christian beliefs and history. Do you really think that you can pontificate about people's beliefs without actually studying them, or are you just plain stupid?
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Please note that actual professionals, and not just ranting pseudonymous Slashdotters with no better arguments than repeating the PR party line, agree with my point.
All you have brought to the table is "you're stupid for not paying 5 bucks to unbreak Windows 8". Arguing by repeated assertion does not win you points.
And as for civility? You have shown none, you will get none. You're a moron deeply in need of therapy to get rid of your codependence on Microsoft.
First incoherent walls of rage-text, then projection.
Want me to look up the number of a good therapist for you?
That's because IT is suffused with a teenage culture that equates 'old' with 'useless'.
Being able to spew the buzzwords related to the newest fad seems to be a requirement for a dev job these days.
It doesn't help that the industry as a whole (especially in the US) seems to prey on young naive workers and likes to keep them that way in order to extract the maximum profit out of them.
You do realise that I am not reading your posts anymore? As soon as I see another one of those walls of text, I go 'more spittle'.
You know, what does that make someone who posts outraged screeds when confronted with criticism of Windows 8? So outraged that could almost feel the spittle coming out of the monitor on my end.
That's either someone with his life invested in a Microsoft product, or a complete nutjob.
As for your 20% speed increase? Here's a nickel kid, go buy yourself a real operating system.
Tell me then, if you're not a PR flack, just why are you so invested in a Microsoft product that you have to continuously have to write humongous screeds to defend every minor criticism?
Do you realise how utterly deranged you appear to sane people? This is beyond "You're holding it wrong" levels.
You just told me to pay 5 dollars to get back to the way I used to launch programs in Windows. No amount of text is going to convince anyone that that is sheer stupidity, change for the sake of change, and that you are not a Microsoft shill.
If I have to pay five bucks to fix something that was working fine in the previous release, anyone but a fucking shill would call that broken.
So it takes active intervention to unbreak it? It's broken. Period.
And you picked up on that very well indeed.
Yes, it's not much of a qualifier, and that's because that is the major pain dealing with Dell, making sure that you know what you have and how to make sure that Dell is not going to send you an incompatible part.
Aside from that, I've dealt with worse support teams. Such as $BIG_UNIX_VENDOR, who insisted on every call that our products were under Gold support, whereas our company had a company-wide Platinum contract. Every support call took at least half an hour wrangling about it, and that was if you had the contract number at the ready.
Well, yes, that's the minimum acceptable standard of support, I agree completely.
I was implying that the OP is on his own. He decided to mess around on a device without ensuring the minimal support was in place, or deliberately ignoring the lack of support, so now it broke, he gets to keep both pieces.
My experience with Dell is that if this happens on a product that's still supported, they'll ship a replacement part immediately, by courier, no questions asked.
This assumes though that:
When doing work on machines that are out of support (and the PowerEdge 1950 is old hardware), you take your chances, that's all you can do.
No sorry, that's cargo-cult systems administration. You don't deploy fixes unless you know what they fix.
In cases 1 and 2, if you don't need the new features or the extra performance, your system "ain't broke".
In cases 3 and for, your system "is broke".
So yeah, in Systems Administration the rule still is "If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
In my experience you should only upgrade to the latest version if the vendor can prove, with the issue number in hand, that that particular version solves whatever problem you're having.
In all other cases smart administration says don't upgrade unless you have a reason.
The only problem is that first-line support for almost all vendors I ever spoke with has a script that tells the customer to upgrade; you earn your money as an administrator if you can convince them that, no, this is not an acceptable answer.
Nonsense. Dell's Pro Support is reasonably good, especially once you get past the first line.
The major problem I have had with Dell is their insistence on doing fast model upgrades and giving lower-quality support on superseded hardware SKUs; not to mention their lousy habit of upgrading the hardware but continuing to use the same model number in their catalogue.
So that's quite a backtrack Dawkins has done. He used to all but call it Creationism and Gould a traitor to the evolutionary cause.
Of course, Dawkins is a dick and does the cause of Science and Rationalism almost as much damage as the Texas School Board.
Look, I know you neo-Confederates aren't too smart, but this news item was about private sector banking, not the Federal Reserve.
Please be so kind as to wait for a suitable news item to ride your hobby-horse.
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Congratulations, you just advocated breaking ISP mail relay.
Using your ISP mail server for outgoing mail is Best Practice.
SMTP is supposed to be agnostic as to the sender. This is not spoofing.
So you get hit with a 10.000 address spam run.
Are you still contending that you are not a nuisance?
Shut. that. system. down.
So if I am working from home, how do you propose I send mail using my corporate address? With strict SPF, the old Best Practice, handing it over to my ISP relay, breaks.
If your answer is to set up a VPN to work, I say fuck that shit. SPF is a broken solution searching for a problem.
And in the meantime SPF breaks mail for everyone whose email address is not hosted on the domain of the sending server. In other words, everyone who wants to send mail from their home PC with the From: address set to their webmail address through their ISPs mailserver.
If a technology breaks mail so fundamentally that an end user using best practices gets their email rejected, then the technology is broken.
Don't use SPF. It breaks mail.
And again you make two errors in your understanding of Christian beliefs and history. Do you really think that you can pontificate about people's beliefs without actually studying them, or are you just plain stupid?