Er, no. Cyril developed the "Cyrillic" alphabet, although your statement of his intentions is correct. (I don't believe he was much of a saint, btw) I do thank you for the correction on the charsets. I kind of knew that would happen:)
That is false. Russian people had alphabet long before Cyrillic. Incidentally, that should really be proto-Russian, or Eastern Slavic since the people diverged into Russian, Ukrainian, and Belorussian much later.
Fair 'nough. The good bishop simply wanted a written language that he understood, so that he could teach his religion. So the creation of the Cyrillic alphabet is a matter of convenience for the religious powers-that-be of the time. Not a new story, unfortunately. And your point about proto-Russian is well-taken.
It is not. There are several "dialects" of the Cyrillic alphabet. They are mostly the same but a few letters are different. I already mentioned three of them above. There's also Bulgarian, Serbian, and I'm not sure what else.
While in the broadest sense, you are right (I have a great story outside the context of this article on a miscommunication on my part with a Ukranian individual who I mistakenly thought was speaking Russian) in the context of my point about those two specific characters, I disagree. Again, a Unicode geek could prove me wrong.
The charset is called KOI8-R. Or are you using the l33t sp3lling?
Lol, heh. You are right on there. I was just dashing off a reply to the article, and wasn't paying enough attention to the niceties. l33t sp311ing was farthest from my mind, b3 a55ur3d.
"Russian Cyrillic?" The Cyrillic alphabet was developed a long time ago by a religious man (guess what his name was), because the Russian peoples he was trying to convert had no written alphabet. So it could be said that "Russian Cyrillic" is redundant. However, the cyrillic alphabet is in use by various languages today, and I seriously doubt the the "c" and "o" characters mentioned in the article are unique to the K018R charset. 'Course, I could be wrong. If someone out there is a Unicode nerd and knows different, I will bow to the higher authority.
it's against the law for civilans to launch a guided rocket system....
Actually, what he's planning probably won't qualify. Reason is, at least according to his site, he plans to just launch straight up into the sky. Not guided - just straight up (and straight down!). IANAL, but it seems to me that the guided provision was intended to avoid shooting at things. Since this guy is simply shooting at the sky or, perhaps more colliqually correctly, the moon (which at 30 miles launch height, he has slim chance of hitting), he is probably out of that particular bit of hot water. On the other hand, he is certainly going to fall under a few other jurisdictions, which may or may not attempt to prevent him from comitting suicide in this rather spectacular manner.
This guy makes the rest of us look sane by comparison. I've always wanted to go into space, but I'm not sure I'd try it in a BYO machine. Then again, if it does work, imagine what that will do for space travel. I'd predict that a lot of people will try, and a lot will die, but in the end, the big corps will figure out that if some yahoo in Bend can do it on a shoestring, they can do it too - for a profit! 'Course, his site is/.ed already - in what must be record time. Moderators: I've got 50 points. Do your best:)
As a low-level admin at a K12 district, I was pushing Linux, to what appeared to be deaf ears, until a couple of events took place, which sparked a renewed interest in Linux. As a result, we now have one of our webservers, two firewalls, and a proxy server all running Linux. And I can say that as a direct result of: 1) The greatly improved security and performance of the machines when Win2K server was wiped from them in favor of Linux, and 2) The action up in Portland, and Microsoft's generally jackbooted-thug-like behavior toward schools right in the middle of a major budget crisis
We will be headed more and more toward OSS in general and Linux in particular. And our district is by far not the only one. I hear from the other local districts and guess what? They are doing the same thing. M$ has shot itself in the foot. It is possible that they can get some educators drunk at a conference and buy a little forgiveness, but how many people do you think were there in the context of how many people are dealing with Microsoft audits now? Not too many. And when Microsoft alienates the education market, they don't just piss off some administrators: if and when those administrators migrate some or all of their services and equipment to OSS, the effect inevitably trickles down to the students being educated in that district. The last thing Microsoft wants is for high school students in the process of making college choices to see the superiority of OSS to their own crufty product, and make decisions based in part on that information. But that is just what is happening. So the events going on right now will have ramifications well into the future. Count on it.
Hmm... looks like you really should have bothered to look at the site. Anyhow, what I find most amusing are the number of false blocks in the log pages. I can imagine my own feline creature dealing with the door not opening when it really should. Probably by knocking out the living room window. Of course, he only weighs eighteen or twenty pounds and isn't fat. But can you imagine the racket caused by a pissed-off cat banging on a locked kitty door at four in the morning? According to the logs, it is in fact what must have happened:)
You're forgetting about the ever-popular feline pastime of lurking quietly out of sight until a human happens to open the door with a double armload of groceries, at which time said feline makes a mad dash out of the door, which of course causes said groceries to become scattered about the entryway. Of course, it does save the cat the trouble of opening the cat door. Not that I've seen this happen in, say the last fifteen minutes or anything...
I went ahead and had a look at Hamibi's website, too, and had to laugh through my disgust.
"granted Intel an unprecedented preliminary injunction to ban me from sending informative and educational e-mail messages to Intel employees."
Yeah, right. I can just imagine his idea of "Educational and informative" now:
TO: staff@intel.com FROM: eoiff30dn3@hotmail.com SUBJECT: INCREASE YOUR PENIS SIZE NOW - NINE INCHES GUARIANTEED!!!!!!!
Hamibi Enterprises, a well known and medically respected pharmaceutical manufacturer announces a fantastic new brakesthru now - bring out the REAL you! Results GURANTEED!.... Got a couple of Shifmans in his family tree, I guess.
I really think it's great that you have reduced the amount of spam you get, but by your ruleset, you wouldn't be able to read this if it were an email message. And rest assured I'm not running an open mail relay. BTW, just how long does it take your mailserver to check each and every email coming in for these criteria? Beowulf cluster of Linux boxes does this work? Really?
Yeah, I do bitch. I also vote, write letters to my reps, letters to the editor, etc. The money owns the hearts and souls of too many in the US. Fuck it.
because I am working:) At first glance, this looks like a great thing. In fact, what the internet was supposed to be. My only question is - how long will they remain available and maintained? Operations like this tend to get their funding mysteriously cut. Sounds like a job for the EFF to fund?
Picture if you will: You are peacefully trekking through Africa with your tour group of twentysomething Eurotrash and middle-aged Americans (and their porters!) when somehow you are seperated from the group. You walk hither: green swale and trees which you swore you'd be able to identify before you went on the goddamned trip. But no trekkers. You walk fro: More of the same, and still no trekkers. By this point, you are pretty worried - the guides issued stern warnings about not getting lost. So you walk yon. As you round a corner, you find youself in a small clearing in a grove of those trees. You hear a strange buzzing sound, and then you are startled to see...
a fly. Not any fly, mind you, but a tsetse fly. And this isn't just any tsetse fly - this one is at least fifteen feet tall. His probiscus is the size of your leg! (there does seem to be something missing, but you never quite figure out what) The fly is wearing a thrashed denim jacket with Greenpeace and anarchy patches dotted among black marker pen with various incomprehensible rants.
"You have no chance to survive make your time!"
Oh.... my...... god!!!!!
You are ready to scream, run away, anything but deal with this deranged mutant eunich tsetse fly. But you can't run. Your legs are like jello. You can't stop staring at that probiscus that's the size of your leg...
"All your bug are belong to us!!!"
Oh, god, you think - he's definately one of those. You finally remember how to use your legs and turn to run away, but a beclawed leg bats you to the ground. You scream in irony as the probiscus gets closer. You should never have worked for that WTO organization. Not to mention that consulting work...
The probiscus drills slowly into your belly as you squirm like a cricket on a fish hook. There is nothing to do....
Suddenly, you find yourself getting sleepy, sleepy... You never imagined it would end like this... so peaceful... so calm, relaxed.... the beauty of the trees as the tsetse fly pumps its saliva into your bowel, predigesting it before, as you sanquinely observe, he sips up your small and large intestines, your kidneys, liver, pancreas... things are getting dark now. Just before everything is quiet...
It's a trillion times safer than DDT and the other killer poisons they like to fill the air with during skeeter season.
Er, I don't think you read the entire article. They are planning to use pesticides to eradicate 90-95 percent of the population, then release the sterilized males to finish the job. On the other hand, I'm glad it worked in.ca without pesticides.
This is scary. Given the propensity of the "law enforcement" community in the US to jump on any excuse to deny human rights while looking for ways to invade privacy, it strikes me that there is very little in place right now to prevent the US government from doing this right now. I'm not normally so paranoid, but it is obvious that near-total central control of the internet is now technically possible (thanks a whole fucking lot, Cisco). The thing to ask is, how do we stop this cancer before it spreads?
As a consumer, the corps can rest assured that I do indeed want to be "hurt" by a law that says I don't have to go to all the trouble of sending in opt-out mail to companies that think the details of my personal life are their property to do with as they please. Fsck those fscking fsckers.
Recently, my phone company sent out a mailer describing how to opt out of their planned data sharing scheme. The long and short was that I could dial an 800 number, but that information was so buried in fine-print legalese that I really doubt that many people who otherwise would have opted out actually did. Shenanigans like that are precisely what Vermont is addressing with this law. Let's all think a good thought for Vermont's AG staff on this one.
Thank you for putting things into perspective. I have never been to Poland, so can hardly picture what life is like there. Was in USSR in the eighties, and if that was any indication... If you are ever on the West Coast of the US, drop me a line. Email is the last bit of my URL at the domain name in front of it. I'd be happy to show you one way of providing bandwidth to a community.
See my earlier post. Funny thing... Paul Allen (partorfull owner of Charter), promised to do whatever it takes to defeat AFN. ROTFL. I have seen two or three outages in a year and a half. I have seen people go to Charter, and come back crying. Sincerely wish people had more options, as it would help squash the Charters out there.
I pay $25 per month, and am certain to get at least 3000kbps down and usually no less than 900 up. Usually, it's more like 5000/1000, but who's counting? No bandwidth limiting, either. But that's what happens when Big Government buts in where business can clearly provide more service for less money.
"when it's compiled" And I suppose the compiler doesn't need any resources to run? So who's the dumbass? BTW, post with your logon if you want to namecall.
Bah. My beef with java is and always has been that it is slow, buggy, and produces a reliably ugly GUI when you need to create one. It really doesn't matter which platform, either. Apple used to do this advertising (you will laugh) which said "See java run - quickly!" Guess which OS? If you guessed X, you're right. The fact is that for whatever reason (I admit ignorance - I don't know!), Java is slower than other languages. I have been watching this thread, and it is interesting to see the arguments re: automatic garbage collection versus manual cleanup. My >guess is that the reason most Java apps run so slowly is because the language is structured in such a way that it is easy to write sloppy code. For example, why bother figuring out which specific library to call up when you can just call java.lang.* in your file. In that sense, I guess I am guilty as charged. The second biggest reason most people poo poo Visual Basic is that it lets people get awaw with writing shitty code. Same with Java.
This would solve my greatest beef with Java - that messy JVM which piles into the processor when it compiles bytecode. Of course, the idea of running Java natively seems to defeat the purpose of Java entirely: runs the same on any computer. Interesting idea, though...
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Er, no. Cyril developed the "Cyrillic" alphabet, although your statement of his intentions is correct. (I don't believe he was much of a saint, btw) :)
I do thank you for the correction on the charsets. I kind of knew that would happen
That is false. Russian people had alphabet long before Cyrillic. Incidentally, that should really be proto-Russian, or Eastern Slavic since the people diverged into Russian, Ukrainian, and Belorussian much later.
Fair 'nough. The good bishop simply wanted a written language that he understood, so that he could teach his religion. So the creation of the Cyrillic alphabet is a matter of convenience for the religious powers-that-be of the time. Not a new story, unfortunately. And your point about proto-Russian is well-taken.
It is not. There are several "dialects" of the Cyrillic alphabet. They are mostly the same but a few letters are different. I already mentioned three of them above. There's also Bulgarian, Serbian, and I'm not sure what else.
While in the broadest sense, you are right (I have a great story outside the context of this article on a miscommunication on my part with a Ukranian individual who I mistakenly thought was speaking Russian) in the context of my point about those two specific characters, I disagree. Again, a Unicode geek could prove me wrong.
The charset is called KOI8-R. Or are you using the l33t sp3lling?
Lol, heh. You are right on there. I was just dashing off a reply to the article, and wasn't paying enough attention to the niceties. l33t sp311ing was farthest from my mind, b3 a55ur3d.
"Russian Cyrillic?"
The Cyrillic alphabet was developed a long time ago by a religious man (guess what his name was), because the Russian peoples he was trying to convert had no written alphabet. So it could be said that "Russian Cyrillic" is redundant. However, the cyrillic alphabet is in use by various languages today, and I seriously doubt the the "c" and "o" characters mentioned in the article are unique to the K018R charset.
'Course, I could be wrong. If someone out there is a Unicode nerd and knows different, I will bow to the higher authority.
This guy makes the rest of us look sane by comparison. I've always wanted to go into space, but I'm not sure I'd try it in a BYO machine. Then again, if it does work, imagine what that will do for space travel. I'd predict that a lot of people will try, and a lot will die, but in the end, the big corps will figure out that if some yahoo in Bend can do it on a shoestring, they can do it too - for a profit! /.ed already - in what must be record time. :)
'Course, his site is
Moderators: I've got 50 points. Do your best
As a low-level admin at a K12 district, I was pushing Linux, to what appeared to be deaf ears, until a couple of events took place, which sparked a renewed interest in Linux. As a result, we now have one of our webservers, two firewalls, and a proxy server all running Linux. And I can say that as a direct result of:
1) The greatly improved security and performance of the machines when Win2K server was wiped from them in favor of Linux, and
2) The action up in Portland, and Microsoft's generally jackbooted-thug-like behavior toward schools right in the middle of a major budget crisis
We will be headed more and more toward OSS in general and Linux in particular. And our district is by far not the only one. I hear from the other local districts and guess what? They are doing the same thing.
M$ has shot itself in the foot. It is possible that they can get some educators drunk at a conference and buy a little forgiveness, but how many people do you think were there in the context of how many people are dealing with Microsoft audits now? Not too many. And when Microsoft alienates the education market, they don't just piss off some administrators: if and when those administrators migrate some or all of their services and equipment to OSS, the effect inevitably trickles down to the students being educated in that district. The last thing Microsoft wants is for high school students in the process of making college choices to see the superiority of OSS to their own crufty product, and make decisions based in part on that information. But that is just what is happening. So the events going on right now will have ramifications well into the future. Count on it.
Hmm... looks like you really should have bothered to look at the site. Anyhow, what I find most amusing are the number of false blocks in the log pages. I can imagine my own feline creature dealing with the door not opening when it really should. Probably by knocking out the living room window. Of course, he only weighs eighteen or twenty pounds and isn't fat. But can you imagine the racket caused by a pissed-off cat banging on a locked kitty door at four in the morning? According to the logs, it is in fact what must have happened :)
You're forgetting about the ever-popular feline pastime of lurking quietly out of sight until a human happens to open the door with a double armload of groceries, at which time said feline makes a mad dash out of the door, which of course causes said groceries to become scattered about the entryway. Of course, it does save the cat the trouble of opening the cat door. Not that I've seen this happen in, say the last fifteen minutes or anything...
TO: staff@intel.com
FROM: eoiff30dn3@hotmail.com
SUBJECT: INCREASE YOUR PENIS SIZE NOW - NINE INCHES GUARIANTEED!!!!!!!
Hamibi Enterprises, a well known and medically respected pharmaceutical manufacturer announces a fantastic new brakesthru now - bring out the REAL you! Results GURANTEED!....
Got a couple of Shifmans in his family tree, I guess.
I really think it's great that you have reduced the amount of spam you get, but by your ruleset, you wouldn't be able to read this if it were an email message. And rest assured I'm not running an open mail relay.
BTW, just how long does it take your mailserver to check each and every email coming in for these criteria? Beowulf cluster of Linux boxes does this work? Really?
Yeah, I do bitch. I also vote, write letters to my reps, letters to the editor, etc. The money owns the hearts and souls of too many in the US. Fuck it.
because I am working :)
At first glance, this looks like a great thing. In fact, what the internet was supposed to be. My only question is - how long will they remain available and maintained? Operations like this tend to get their funding mysteriously cut. Sounds like a job for the EFF to fund?
Picture if you will: You are peacefully trekking through Africa with your tour group of twentysomething Eurotrash and middle-aged Americans (and their porters!) when somehow you are seperated from the group. You walk hither: green swale and trees which you swore you'd be able to identify before you went on the goddamned trip. But no trekkers. You walk fro: More of the same, and still no trekkers. By this point, you are pretty worried - the guides issued stern warnings about not getting lost. So you walk yon. As you round a corner, you find youself in a small clearing in a grove of those trees. You hear a strange buzzing sound, and then you are startled to see...
a fly. Not any fly, mind you, but a tsetse fly. And this isn't just any tsetse fly - this one is at least fifteen feet tall. His probiscus is the size of your leg! (there does seem to be something missing, but you never quite figure out what) The fly is wearing a thrashed denim jacket with Greenpeace and anarchy patches dotted among black marker pen with various incomprehensible rants.
"You have no chance to survive make your time!"
Oh.... my...... god!!!!!
You are ready to scream, run away, anything but deal with this deranged mutant eunich tsetse fly. But you can't run. Your legs are like jello. You can't stop staring at that probiscus that's the size of your leg...
"All your bug are belong to us!!!"
Oh, god, you think - he's definately one of those. You finally remember how to use your legs and turn to run away, but a beclawed leg bats you to the ground. You scream in irony as the probiscus gets closer. You should never have worked for that WTO organization. Not to mention that consulting work...
The probiscus drills slowly into your belly as you squirm like a cricket on a fish hook. There is nothing to do....
Suddenly, you find yourself getting sleepy, sleepy... You never imagined it would end like this... so peaceful... so calm, relaxed.... the beauty of the trees as the tsetse fly pumps its saliva into your bowel, predigesting it before, as you sanquinely observe, he sips up your small and large intestines, your kidneys, liver, pancreas... things are getting dark now. Just before everything is quiet...
"For great justice"
On the other hand, I'm glad it worked in
This is scary. Given the propensity of the "law enforcement" community in the US to jump on any excuse to deny human rights while looking for ways to invade privacy, it strikes me that there is very little in place right now to prevent the US government from doing this right now. I'm not normally so paranoid, but it is obvious that near-total central control of the internet is now technically possible (thanks a whole fucking lot, Cisco). The thing to ask is, how do we stop this cancer before it spreads?
As a consumer, the corps can rest assured that I do indeed want to be "hurt" by a law that says I don't have to go to all the trouble of sending in opt-out mail to companies that think the details of my personal life are their property to do with as they please. Fsck those fscking fsckers.
Recently, my phone company sent out a mailer describing how to opt out of their planned data sharing scheme. The long and short was that I could dial an 800 number, but that information was so buried in fine-print legalese that I really doubt that many people who otherwise would have opted out actually did. Shenanigans like that are precisely what Vermont is addressing with this law. Let's all think a good thought for Vermont's AG staff on this one.
Thank you for putting things into perspective. I have never been to Poland, so can hardly picture what life is like there. Was in USSR in the eighties, and if that was any indication...
If you are ever on the West Coast of the US, drop me a line. Email is the last bit of my URL at the domain name in front of it. I'd be happy to show you one way of providing bandwidth to a community.
See my earlier post. Funny thing... Paul Allen (partorfull owner of Charter), promised to do whatever it takes to defeat AFN. ROTFL. I have seen two or three outages in a year and a half. I have seen people go to Charter, and come back crying. Sincerely wish people had more options, as it would help squash the Charters out there.
I pay $25 per month, and am certain to get at least 3000kbps down and usually no less than 900 up. Usually, it's more like 5000/1000, but who's counting? No bandwidth limiting, either. But that's what happens when Big Government buts in where business can clearly provide more service for less money.
"when it's compiled"
And I suppose the compiler doesn't need any resources to run? So who's the dumbass? BTW, post with your logon if you want to namecall.
Bah. My beef with java is and always has been that it is slow, buggy, and produces a reliably ugly GUI when you need to create one. It really doesn't matter which platform, either. Apple used to do this advertising (you will laugh) which said "See java run - quickly!" Guess which OS? If you guessed X, you're right. The fact is that for whatever reason (I admit ignorance - I don't know!), Java is slower than other languages. I have been watching this thread, and it is interesting to see the arguments re: automatic garbage collection versus manual cleanup.
My >guess is that the reason most Java apps run so slowly is because the language is structured in such a way that it is easy to write sloppy code. For example, why bother figuring out which specific library to call up when you can just call java.lang.* in your file. In that sense, I guess I am guilty as charged. The second biggest reason most people poo poo Visual Basic is that it lets people get awaw with writing shitty code. Same with Java.
This would solve my greatest beef with Java - that messy JVM which piles into the processor when it compiles bytecode. Of course, the idea of running Java natively seems to defeat the purpose of Java entirely: runs the same on any computer. Interesting idea, though...