The OP is almost certainly going to use this with his Windows Home Server... which prefers to deal with JBOD instead of SCSI (which is unsupported) as it turns a JBODs into one massive storage pool where drive letters and differences between physical disks don't matter much.
> Immediate chapter 7 with the government first in line for any payouts
So you want to further bastardize bankruptcy law and officially remove secured debt holders from the front of the line, a place they have always been?
It's no wonder so many companies (and persons with wealth) move some aspects of their businesses (and investments) overseas to countries that are less hostile to businesses and wealth.
Fines, like increased taxes do not harm big corporations... but instead harm customers who end up footing the bill in the end, after all, where exactly do you think the corporations get the money from to pay the fines & taxes in the first place?
Care to quantify that remark? Especially when you do not know what I drive or how it handles.
> lower probability of actually avoiding a collision
You speak of probability and yet offer no numbers.
> and much higher probability of rollover.
See previous statements (ie lack of numbers and your not knowing what I drive)
> Stats seem to confirm it
Link?
> percentage of accidents with SUVs is much higher than their share of the market would suggest.
Again claims related to numbers but no actual numbers.
More so, that would depend on the type of crash. A top heavy SUV is more likely to roll and cause damage to its occupants... however a lower or wider vehicle is less so.
Rather than try to compare âoeall fatal accidents where the occupants were in an SUVâ to âoeall fatal accidents where the occupants were in a passenger carâ and see which is greater... your time would be better spent comparing like accidents (ie âoeof head on impacts against a solid brick wall, which kind of vehicle are you most likely to survive the impact in?â)
Again... it is up to the buyer/driver to choose how much and of what kind of protection they want... some want height, others want width.
> Ditto for lethal ones (there goes you safety...)
If only you offered something more than just make-believe.
> You activelly, by your own choice, make the road more dangerous, overall.
By that logic... any vehicle with more mass than the average is making the road more dangerous... so even if for the moment we ignore semiâ(TM)s and other larger vehicles which are needed for transportation of goods.
What then... should we ban any such vehicles? Or require all them to be able to better handle an impact with something heavier than itself?
> PS. Immediatelly, from the top of my head, I can name two instances when I probably actively avoided an accident thanks to still having control,
And? I can think of several cases where I in my âbig carâ(TM) of mine have had very close calls where I retained control the entire time.
Neither proves anything.
> You need agile car to be actively safe.
There are degrees of agility, more so no matter how agile of a car you have, unless the driver is able to react in time, the agility is wasted.
Again... should we be banning semi-trucks because they are so large and non-agile? Or should we say... make sure their drivers are trained to drive them safely so as to try to give themselves more room to react to events?
> In some cases of stationary objects that you mention, hitting them would be likely YOUR FRAKKING FAULT, bigtime.
And? I'll tell you a little secret about road accidents... it doesn't matter whose fault it is at the moment of impact. Sure the police and insurance company might care... but physics doesn't.
> Besides, they would probably remain stationary throughout the collision,
Depends on the object, most (short of a thick brick wall) would have some degree of collapse and energy absorption.
> so the trick of "letting the other car deal with my energy" wouldn't work anyway.
I never suggested "letting the other car deal with my energy"... I'm simply am focusing on my side of the collision, the only part I have control over.
> (like you would have the right...)
Again, we are talking about physics here, not legal/ethical rights. While might may not make right... it does make.
No one would claim that fire has the right to burn all available fuel... however if left unchecked it certainly will.
> when you find yourself encountering Mr. Big Rig comming at you unexpectedly
Just as my seat belts and airbags aren't going to protect me if I should drive off a bridge or impact something at 120 miles per hour.
Granted none are very likely, but are simply a form of an insurance where you buy the level of coverage/protection that you think is prudent... knowing full well that it can't protect you from everything.
> I realise that people in the US are a bit strange, but on what highways are you liable to encounter a car going the other way in your lane of traffic?
Anywhere you may have a drunk driver or someone unfamiliar with the road (both of which I've seen).
The threat posed by oncoming cars is just one... stationary or other smaller moving objects still pose a great threat (ie walls, trees, animals, lights, poles, dividers, etc).
What are your chances of hitting any of them? Depends on where you live... but on average pretty small... not unlike the chance that you'll need an airbag or seatbelt.
Just as for a time some safety options were optional for those who wanted that added bit of protection... so I drive a slightly larger vehicle just in case I happen to encounter something unexpected on the road.
Neither VPC, Virtual Server or Hyper-V support "running off of a directory tree in the host OS's file system"... instead the virtual hard drive(s) are packaged into nice and portable VHD files... and I'd be very surprised if VirtualBox, VMWare or any other VM software did.
External scanning would require the AV system to know how to crack a VHD (which isn't difficult at all)... though doing so when the VM is online might be tricky.
I'd suggest a bit of reading as the Clinton budget surplus is largely a myth due to some accounting tricks that continue to this day, hiding the true size of the deficits that exist in the budget proposed by the new administration.
What you forget is that while they are a software company, they are nothing without hardware companies and shipping without or ahead of them would be a sure fire way to alienate them.
Sure... someone could just go buy a new desktop today and a fresh copy of Windows 7 tomorrow and upgrade... however this is beyond what most users do or want to do and providing end users with an easy out of box experience is why most people buy boxed PCs from the big names rather than build one themselves.
Again yes... Microsoft could go launch on their own and leave the OEMs on their own... but then they lose major sales opportunities as all of the major OEMs say "Now you can buy Windows 7 pre-installed!"... rather than having heard "Now you can install Windows 7 on your own" for the previous month or two.
While you and I may prefer the latter, the fast majority of consumers prefer the prior.
You realize that even if the 2010 release date is true... (which frankly I'd be surprised by given it'd mean they'd miss the Christmas sales season)... it's not unreasonable for a company to give themselves (and OEMs) a bit of lead time. After all... just because Microsoft signs off the software being done on a given date and goes to stamp a huge number of retail DVDs doesn't mean that OEMs who ship Windows on their PCs will have signed off on their customizations to it and are ready to ship at the same time.
Given my SUV driving has yet to save me in a crash (I've not had one since buying it)... I'm glad to see it has contributed to something productive at least.
I suspect I am not the only one who now feels dumber having read your comment.
Your saying that Active Sync is just PPP is like claiming that... DNS is just ARP... one (can and in the case of Active Sync) may use the other... but is not absolutely required to... and even when such a low level protocol is used, it is the higher level data that matters to applications.
If it was that simple... don't you think there'd be more FOSS implementations of ActiveSync than there is if it was just PPP... oh right, it's not!
To recap... PPP: Layer 2 protocol, Active Sync: (likely) Layer 3-5 protocol
Would you feel better if they reved the version number to something cool like 42.1.2345?
FYI: Version numbers do not actually represent major changes within a system, they are there for tracking purposes only... unfortunately some application and driver authors depend on them... and if MSFT changed the major build number to 7, plenty of drivers and applications out there (mostly drivers) would suddenly stop working as the driver authors expected that such a major numerical increase would break them.
So let me get this straight... you are complaining that they are trying to preserve compatibility?
> Like when the OS becomes corrupt, you can't restore the RAID set again?
Again, Windows Home Server's Drive Extender != RAID.
And yes... if the OS becomes corrupt, even if the main hard drive becomes corrupt you can still recover your files (provided you have more than one HD in your system and the folders have duplication enabled (which is the default in multi-hd systems)). In fact unlike a traditional raid setup, in case of an emergency you can actually yank out a HD from a Windows Home Server and access it normally on a regular Windows PC in case you don't have time to go through the recovery process.
> Or because it's running a Windows OS you have to have virus protection or else you open yourself up to all sorts of vulnerabilities.
Assuming you are running random software on the box, otherwise it tends to be pretty well locked down and running in a home environment where it is far more secure than the average server.
> In many many respects, it is not better than proper standardized RAID.
Again, read the linked to post above to see just how wrong you are. And with this grand RAIDness you keep advocating... do you think the average home user is able to manage proper standardized RAID? I don't. Heck, it sounds like you yourself aren't!
> You're better off building something decent.
And yet you still have yet to quantify how Windows Home Server isn't 'decent' beyond the provably false assertions above.
> I built my media server using UnRAID. It offers full expandability, one Parity disk with no parity striping, and no striping of data.
That may work great for you... but how about for your mother? Mine would have no problem with a Windows Home Server and me NOT providing tech support.
Dunno, how many of those Linux based NAS devices can have new hard drives added to their storage pool in a way that is transparent to the end user other than the couple of mouse clicks required? How about when it comes time to remove one of those drives (when looking to replace one of the itty bitty ones with something larger)?
You realize that I provided a couple of links to what I was talking about, links that contain supporting information... you gave us... acronyms that all have meaning to... what % of/. readers?
Lucky for you... despite hating Linux as I do, I am familiar with what you describe.
The key difference between Windows Home Server and what you provide... is that I would have no fear dropping off a pre-packed device at my parents house running WHS and telling them they are on their own for configuration and support... it's just that easy to use. Can you say the same for any pre-packaged Linux based solution?
... back in my undergrad days I had an issue with a professor who tried to pull his own stunts, even trying to call me out (while claiming to not know who he was calling out) publically in class. After a conversation with couple of lawyers and a few folks at the university after making a complaint of harassment (me being a white male who at the time was in his early 20's) and which at one point resulting in the university president calling me on my cell personally, it was decided that given the professors work was a paid for by the university, they had effectively no rights to it... so my copious note taking, and eventual whole scale recording of classes what perfectly legitimate and up to the university... and not the individual professor who was being paid to perform for the classes behalf.
As sad as I am to say it... a tape recorder, obvious or not (ideally obvious be it in public or private) can be your best friend... though in my case I also had a laptop recording everything as well.
Let me give you the advice I was given when I was dealing with an overzealous professor who thought they were god in the classroom and eventually was threatening to sue me and the school... talk to a lawyer.
Remember though... I am not a lawyer, I've just talked to a few over this issue and think you should to.
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True... only you have alternatives to the corporate doctor, when the state takes full control, your options get pretty thin pretty fast.
The OP is almost certainly going to use this with his Windows Home Server... which prefers to deal with JBOD instead of SCSI (which is unsupported) as it turns a JBODs into one massive storage pool where drive letters and differences between physical disks don't matter much.
At least with an electric bill you pay for what you use instead of what you make.
> Immediate chapter 7 with the government first in line for any payouts
So you want to further bastardize bankruptcy law and officially remove secured debt holders from the front of the line, a place they have always been?
It's no wonder so many companies (and persons with wealth) move some aspects of their businesses (and investments) overseas to countries that are less hostile to businesses and wealth.
> Fines. Very large fines.
Are you really that hopelessly naive?
Fines, like increased taxes do not harm big corporations... but instead harm customers who end up footing the bill in the end, after all, where exactly do you think the corporations get the money from to pay the fines & taxes in the first place?
> that big car of yours has much worse handling
Care to quantify that remark? Especially when you do not know what I drive or how it handles.
> lower probability of actually avoiding a collision
You speak of probability and yet offer no numbers.
> and much higher probability of rollover.
See previous statements (ie lack of numbers and your not knowing what I drive)
> Stats seem to confirm it
Link?
> percentage of accidents with SUVs is much higher than their share of the market would suggest.
Again claims related to numbers but no actual numbers.
More so, that would depend on the type of crash. A top heavy SUV is more likely to roll and cause damage to its occupants... however a lower or wider vehicle is less so.
Rather than try to compare âoeall fatal accidents where the occupants were in an SUVâ to âoeall fatal accidents where the occupants were in a passenger carâ and see which is greater... your time would be better spent comparing like accidents (ie âoeof head on impacts against a solid brick wall, which kind of vehicle are you most likely to survive the impact in?â)
Again... it is up to the buyer/driver to choose how much and of what kind of protection they want... some want height, others want width.
> Ditto for lethal ones (there goes you safety...)
If only you offered something more than just make-believe.
> You activelly, by your own choice, make the road more dangerous, overall.
By that logic... any vehicle with more mass than the average is making the road more dangerous... so even if for the moment we ignore semiâ(TM)s and other larger vehicles which are needed for transportation of goods.
What then... should we ban any such vehicles? Or require all them to be able to better handle an impact with something heavier than itself?
> PS. Immediatelly, from the top of my head, I can name two instances when I probably actively avoided an accident thanks to still having control,
And? I can think of several cases where I in my âbig carâ(TM) of mine have had very close calls where I retained control the entire time.
Neither proves anything.
> You need agile car to be actively safe.
There are degrees of agility, more so no matter how agile of a car you have, unless the driver is able to react in time, the agility is wasted.
Again... should we be banning semi-trucks because they are so large and non-agile? Or should we say... make sure their drivers are trained to drive them safely so as to try to give themselves more room to react to events?
You know... defensive driving?
> In some cases of stationary objects that you mention, hitting them would be likely YOUR FRAKKING FAULT, bigtime.
And? I'll tell you a little secret about road accidents... it doesn't matter whose fault it is at the moment of impact. Sure the police and insurance company might care... but physics doesn't.
> Besides, they would probably remain stationary throughout the collision,
Depends on the object, most (short of a thick brick wall) would have some degree of collapse and energy absorption.
> so the trick of "letting the other car deal with my energy" wouldn't work anyway.
I never suggested "letting the other car deal with my energy"... I'm simply am focusing on my side of the collision, the only part I have control over.
> (like you would have the right...)
Again, we are talking about physics here, not legal/ethical rights. While might may not make right... it does make.
No one would claim that fire has the right to burn all available fuel... however if left unchecked it certainly will.
> when you find yourself encountering Mr. Big Rig comming at you unexpectedly
Just as my seat belts and airbags aren't going to protect me if I should drive off a bridge or impact something at 120 miles per hour.
Granted none are very likely, but are simply a form of an insurance where you buy the level of coverage/protection that you think is prudent... knowing full well that it can't protect you from everything.
> I realise that people in the US are a bit strange, but on what highways are you liable to encounter a car going the other way in your lane of traffic?
Anywhere you may have a drunk driver or someone unfamiliar with the road (both of which I've seen).
The threat posed by oncoming cars is just one... stationary or other smaller moving objects still pose a great threat (ie walls, trees, animals, lights, poles, dividers, etc).
What are your chances of hitting any of them? Depends on where you live... but on average pretty small... not unlike the chance that you'll need an airbag or seatbelt.
Just as for a time some safety options were optional for those who wanted that added bit of protection... so I drive a slightly larger vehicle just in case I happen to encounter something unexpected on the road.
You must have missed the Pelosi press conference last week.
Neither VPC, Virtual Server or Hyper-V support "running off of a directory tree in the host OS's file system"... instead the virtual hard drive(s) are packaged into nice and portable VHD files... and I'd be very surprised if VirtualBox, VMWare or any other VM software did.
External scanning would require the AV system to know how to crack a VHD (which isn't difficult at all)... though doing so when the VM is online might be tricky.
I'd suggest a bit of reading as the Clinton budget surplus is largely a myth due to some accounting tricks that continue to this day, hiding the true size of the deficits that exist in the budget proposed by the new administration.
What you forget is that while they are a software company, they are nothing without hardware companies and shipping without or ahead of them would be a sure fire way to alienate them.
Sure... someone could just go buy a new desktop today and a fresh copy of Windows 7 tomorrow and upgrade... however this is beyond what most users do or want to do and providing end users with an easy out of box experience is why most people buy boxed PCs from the big names rather than build one themselves.
Again yes... Microsoft could go launch on their own and leave the OEMs on their own... but then they lose major sales opportunities as all of the major OEMs say "Now you can buy Windows 7 pre-installed!"... rather than having heard "Now you can install Windows 7 on your own" for the previous month or two.
While you and I may prefer the latter, the fast majority of consumers prefer the prior.
You realize that even if the 2010 release date is true... (which frankly I'd be surprised by given it'd mean they'd miss the Christmas sales season)... it's not unreasonable for a company to give themselves (and OEMs) a bit of lead time. After all... just because Microsoft signs off the software being done on a given date and goes to stamp a huge number of retail DVDs doesn't mean that OEMs who ship Windows on their PCs will have signed off on their customizations to it and are ready to ship at the same time.
Given my SUV driving has yet to save me in a crash (I've not had one since buying it)... I'm glad to see it has contributed to something productive at least.
I suspect I am not the only one who now feels dumber having read your comment.
Your saying that Active Sync is just PPP is like claiming that... DNS is just ARP... one (can and in the case of Active Sync) may use the other... but is not absolutely required to... and even when such a low level protocol is used, it is the higher level data that matters to applications.
If it was that simple... don't you think there'd be more FOSS implementations of ActiveSync than there is if it was just PPP... oh right, it's not!
To recap... PPP: Layer 2 protocol, Active Sync: (likely) Layer 3-5 protocol
Ding ding ding!
Sure you might find a netbook with starter in the developing world, you are not going to see it in many of the nations populated by /. readers.
This is yet another case of manufactured anger.
OMG! You mean a picture published in January of *2008*, of leaked pre-pre-pre peice of beta software proves... anything?
Would you feel better if they reved the version number to something cool like 42.1.2345?
FYI: Version numbers do not actually represent major changes within a system, they are there for tracking purposes only... unfortunately some application and driver authors depend on them... and if MSFT changed the major build number to 7, plenty of drivers and applications out there (mostly drivers) would suddenly stop working as the driver authors expected that such a major numerical increase would break them.
So let me get this straight... you are complaining that they are trying to preserve compatibility?
> Like when the OS becomes corrupt, you can't restore the RAID set again?
Again, Windows Home Server's Drive Extender != RAID.
And yes... if the OS becomes corrupt, even if the main hard drive becomes corrupt you can still recover your files (provided you have more than one HD in your system and the folders have duplication enabled (which is the default in multi-hd systems)). In fact unlike a traditional raid setup, in case of an emergency you can actually yank out a HD from a Windows Home Server and access it normally on a regular Windows PC in case you don't have time to go through the recovery process.
> Or because it's running a Windows OS you have to have virus protection or else you open yourself up to all sorts of vulnerabilities.
Assuming you are running random software on the box, otherwise it tends to be pretty well locked down and running in a home environment where it is far more secure than the average server.
> In many many respects, it is not better than proper standardized RAID.
Again, read the linked to post above to see just how wrong you are. And with this grand RAIDness you keep advocating... do you think the average home user is able to manage proper standardized RAID? I don't. Heck, it sounds like you yourself aren't!
> You're better off building something decent.
And yet you still have yet to quantify how Windows Home Server isn't 'decent' beyond the provably false assertions above.
> I built my media server using UnRAID. It offers full expandability, one Parity disk with no parity striping, and no striping of data.
That may work great for you... but how about for your mother? Mine would have no problem with a Windows Home Server and me NOT providing tech support.
Dunno, how many of those Linux based NAS devices can have new hard drives added to their storage pool in a way that is transparent to the end user other than the couple of mouse clicks required? How about when it comes time to remove one of those drives (when looking to replace one of the itty bitty ones with something larger)?
You realize that I provided a couple of links to what I was talking about, links that contain supporting information... you gave us... acronyms that all have meaning to... what % of /. readers?
Lucky for you... despite hating Linux as I do, I am familiar with what you describe.
The key difference between Windows Home Server and what you provide... is that I would have no fear dropping off a pre-packed device at my parents house running WHS and telling them they are on their own for configuration and support... it's just that easy to use. Can you say the same for any pre-packaged Linux based solution?
And? In many respects it's better than RAID!
Use a Windows Home Server?
... back in my undergrad days I had an issue with a professor who tried to pull his own stunts, even trying to call me out (while claiming to not know who he was calling out) publically in class. After a conversation with couple of lawyers and a few folks at the university after making a complaint of harassment (me being a white male who at the time was in his early 20's) and which at one point resulting in the university president calling me on my cell personally, it was decided that given the professors work was a paid for by the university, they had effectively no rights to it... so my copious note taking, and eventual whole scale recording of classes what perfectly legitimate and up to the university... and not the individual professor who was being paid to perform for the classes behalf.
As sad as I am to say it... a tape recorder, obvious or not (ideally obvious be it in public or private) can be your best friend... though in my case I also had a laptop recording everything as well.
Let me give you the advice I was given when I was dealing with an overzealous professor who thought they were god in the classroom and eventually was threatening to sue me and the school... talk to a lawyer.
Remember though... I am not a lawyer, I've just talked to a few over this issue and think you should to.