Microsoft didn't have the hipster cred that apple did; so the industry would have done something, but that doesn't mean that apple isn't responsible for the advancement of it, for the wide acceptence and even the embrace that it has gotten.
Apple put their image behind DRM and made it credible; that's something that MS could have never done on their own, and other companies would have had a much harder time pulling off (sony may have been able to do it, but I wouldn't say for sure).
Again, Apple made it 'hip' to be locked in; that's what I blame them for.
Sidenote: the whole "if I hadn't done something bad, someone else would have" argument is what leads to crap like Enron in the corporate world. Just because someone else is going to do something bad does not make it ok for you to do it. -- -- Argent actually had far better points, all things considered.
I doubt that splitting the industry was Jobs' intent, and the argument has been made that had the itunes scheme become the defacto standard it would have become as strong as MS' known2play (or whatever).
Regarding DVD CSS being the actual foot in the door...you could well be right; I hadn't thought about it that way so I'm not sure wether I agree or not. I think one fact to consider about CSS is that it was easily/quickly hacked, and that nothing that has come since (which is harder to crack) has become the de facto dvd encryption standard. Of course, at this point I'm just thinking aloud and that may have nothing to do with anything.:)
>Don't be scared; there's absolutely no chance of a Green or Socialist winning (USA). But if enough progressives vote Green or Socialist, we can guarantee that the Republicans win again.
If the democrats nominate Hillary or Liebermen, then the republicans should win again, and again, and again, until people wake up and demand a meaningful regime change.
Had gore had won, we'd still have a PATRIOT-style act; probably under a different name and for a different rationalisation; but we'd still have one.
If Clinton had the cooperation of congress and the senate civil liberties would have looked just as bad in 2000 as they do now.
When it comes civil liberties, consumer rights and general pro-business-fuck-the-consumer attitudes; clinton democrats are barely distinquishable from the republicans.
Fundamentally, they're both pro-business; fundamentally they're both happy to carve away at our civil liberties
We can thank all of the "but it's only a LITTLE DRM" users too. Now, DRM is on the rise and in the future you will not be able to obtain any mainstream music (IE, anything other than crappy folk) that is not rife with copy protection.
This situation may have been inevitable (then again, I think it may not, too), but the apple zealots certainly helped push it along.
There's a time and a place for fanatacism; four years ago was that time, DRM was that place.
I guess that by "newbie" I mean me. I have 10 years Linux experience, and have just recently started to learn windows. I also find it illogical, and completely irrational.
Don't we all?:)
No. No 'we' don't.
Windows has been around in its' current incarnation for 11 years now. During the course of that 11 years it has remained decently consistent in its' interface and has provided a reliable mechanism to do tasks (keyboard shortcuts, cut and paste, etc).
There are places where the UI violates good UI design (too many nested menus, for instance), but for those minor problems, Linux is no better.
Half of the reason, my friends, that KDE and GNOME are busy playing catch-up with Windows is that they do not have a better way of doing things either.
The ease of use of Linux is still very variable from distribution to distribution. In gui terms Linux is far more illogical than Windows simply because you never know what you're gonna get.
Only someone wrapped up in their hatred of Microsoft could dismiss windows' strenths out of hand...this is even more obvious when considering the fact that linux has the same exact flaws and many more to boot!
"There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. When there aren't enough criminals, one makesthem. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws.... Create a nation of law-breakers, and then you cash in on the guilt."
-Ayn Rand "Atlas Shrugged", Chapter III, "White Blackmail"
Libertarian (aka closet/hipster republican) is fine; I'd be more afraid to vote democrat or -worse yet- green or socialist. Those are the parties which are more in opposistion to the current regime (ok, not the democrats so much, but the greens and socialists definately are).
I tried it last year, and the results were very hit-and-miss; GTA III would play (kinda), but Sims 2 wouldn't. Really, at the end of the day it boils down to one simple princible: Use a desktop OS (windows) for desktop tasks (games), use a server os (Solaris) for server tasks.
Don't try to make a purse out of a pigs' ear, you'll just end up with a messy cludge like Cedega.
I have a friend who has a complex list of nested bookmarks which he's built up over the last several years surfing IE, who me and another friend convinced to switch over to Firefox. He was absolutely livid when Firefox updated and ate said bookmarks, and he was ready to switch back until we accidently found the backup folder while poking around the install directory (which I copied it to the desktop for safekeeping).
Yeah; 'isn't too much fun' sums it up about right...
Close, though I'd be curious as to where the./bootstrap.sh is available from, as I don't see it anywhere in the bash sources.
/usr/pkgsrc/bootstrap/bootstrap? Of course, if that were the case, you'd be able to skip the./configure step and just "make && make install" (after changing to../shells/bash, of course), so who knows.
gcc, gnome, glibc, et al will be enough to get the ball rolling; particularly vital libraries such as readline which will undoubtably be changed over to use the new license.
I'm not anti-FOSS, I'm pro-freedom. Freedom to do whatever it is that you like with the applications on YOUR computer: wether it's watch dvds that I bought off of ebay under loonix or writing applications that only plays legitamately obtained music I should be able to do ANYTHING on my computer.
The FSF is managing to kill any possible future that the GPL has in the enterprise all by them selves! From basements to IT departments, now -with all their anti-drm and anti-patent BS the GPL will go back to it's roots: being used exclusively in the basements of unwashed dorks.
GJ Stallman! Woooooo!
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Think about all the successful operating systems,
...do let's...
from C/PM
Valid point, independently developed; with you so far....
to DOS to
No real funding, and what did Patterson come up with? A glorified bootloader and crap rip-off of C/PM. MS bought it and funded it for 14 years and developed it into...a glorified bootloader with a crappy rip-off of the UNIX heirachal (sp?) file system and very rudimentary memory management.
BSD
..um, UC Berkely? DARPA? Hello!! They had funding out the Wazzoo! Some of it directly governmental (DARPA) or indirectly (government sponsorship of the U of C).
to Windows
Windows was wholly privately funded...and it shows. At least we're well past the BSODs.,...maybe it would have half-way decent security if it had to stand up to government (NSA) standards to any degree?
and the various Macs.
OS X goes back to BSD; no clue about the rest of them ....but weren't they all pretty much shit anyways? (cooperative multitasking anyone?)
The ones that were the most successful were also the ones that were the shittiest, and yes -were developed without government money.
BSD had plenty of government cash and the freedom to develop in whatever direction they wanted (as opposed to whatever direction the market dictated) and as a result BSD is the best of the entire lot!
>If you've got more than two brain cells to rub together, you want to opine and argue with your detractors. This is why Kuro5hin.org will always be better than Digg
I'm sure there are other differences, but the largest one I can think of is that Virtual PC 2005 has one more service pack than Virtual PC 2004; Virtual PC 2004 officially runs on Windows 2000 (with sp4) - Virtual PC 2005 requires Server 2003 or (possibly) XP Pro.
With this, apparently I can create new machines, make snapshots and suspend machines to disk. Doesn't making this a free download make vmplayer redundant?
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Microsoft didn't have the hipster cred that apple did; so the industry would have done something, but that doesn't mean that apple isn't responsible for the advancement of it, for the wide acceptence and even the embrace that it has gotten.
:)
Apple put their image behind DRM and made it credible; that's something that MS could have never done on their own, and other companies would have had a much harder time pulling off (sony may have been able to do it, but I wouldn't say for sure).
Again, Apple made it 'hip' to be locked in; that's what I blame them for.
Sidenote: the whole "if I hadn't done something bad, someone else would have" argument is what leads to crap like Enron in the corporate world. Just because someone else is going to do something bad does not make it ok for you to do it.
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Argent actually had far better points, all things considered.
I doubt that splitting the industry was Jobs' intent, and the argument has been made that had the itunes scheme become the defacto standard it would have become as strong as MS' known2play (or whatever).
Regarding DVD CSS being the actual foot in the door...you could well be right; I hadn't thought about it that way so I'm not sure wether I agree or not. I think one fact to consider about CSS is that it was easily/quickly hacked, and that nothing that has come since (which is harder to crack) has become the de facto dvd encryption standard. Of course, at this point I'm just thinking aloud and that may have nothing to do with anything.
>Don't be scared; there's absolutely no chance of a Green or Socialist winning (USA). But if enough progressives vote Green or Socialist, we can guarantee that the Republicans win again.
If the democrats nominate Hillary or Liebermen, then the republicans should win again, and again, and again, until people wake up and demand a meaningful regime change.
Had gore had won, we'd still have a PATRIOT-style act; probably under a different name and for a different rationalisation; but we'd still have one.
If Clinton had the cooperation of congress and the senate civil liberties would have looked just as bad in 2000 as they do now.
When it comes civil liberties, consumer rights and general pro-business-fuck-the-consumer attitudes; clinton democrats are barely distinquishable from the republicans.
Fundamentally, they're both pro-business; fundamentally they're both happy to carve away at our civil liberties
Fundamentally, they're both the same.
Nader 2008!
>Last time I checked buying commerical music was neither a right nor a freedom.
The freedom to do what you want with something which you have paid money for is a fundamental right.
Don't settle for less, ever.
We can thank all of the "but it's only a LITTLE DRM" users too. Now, DRM is on the rise and in the future you will not be able to obtain any mainstream music (IE, anything other than crappy folk) that is not rife with copy protection.
This situation may have been inevitable (then again, I think it may not, too), but the apple zealots certainly helped push it along.
There's a time and a place for fanatacism; four years ago was that time, DRM was that place.
Thanks for selling us all down the river, Jobs!
No. No 'we' don't.
Windows has been around in its' current incarnation for 11 years now. During the course of that 11 years it has remained decently consistent in its' interface and has provided a reliable mechanism to do tasks (keyboard shortcuts, cut and paste, etc).
There are places where the UI violates good UI design (too many nested menus, for instance), but for those minor problems, Linux is no better.
Half of the reason, my friends, that KDE and GNOME are busy playing catch-up with Windows is that they do not have a better way of doing things either.
The ease of use of Linux is still very variable from distribution to distribution. In gui terms Linux is far more illogical than Windows simply because you never know what you're gonna get.
Only someone wrapped up in their hatred of Microsoft could dismiss windows' strenths out of hand...this is even more obvious when considering the fact that linux has the same exact flaws and many more to boot!
"There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. When there aren't enough criminals, one makesthem. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. ... Create a nation of law-breakers, and then you cash in on the guilt."
-Ayn Rand "Atlas Shrugged", Chapter III, "White Blackmail"
Libertarian (aka closet/hipster republican) is fine; I'd be more afraid to vote democrat or -worse yet- green or socialist. Those are the parties which are more in opposistion to the current regime (ok, not the democrats so much, but the greens and socialists definately are).
I tried it last year, and the results were very hit-and-miss; GTA III would play (kinda), but Sims 2 wouldn't.
Really, at the end of the day it boils down to one simple princible: Use a desktop OS (windows) for desktop tasks (games), use a server os (Solaris) for server tasks.
Don't try to make a purse out of a pigs' ear, you'll just end up with a messy cludge like Cedega.
I mean, is there anyone who wasn't already aware of this?
OH YEAH, Baby--SIGN ME UP!!
I have a friend who has a complex list of nested bookmarks which he's built up over the last several years surfing IE, who me and another friend convinced to switch over to Firefox. He was absolutely livid when Firefox updated and ate said bookmarks, and he was ready to switch back until we accidently found the backup folder while poking around the install directory (which I copied it to the desktop for safekeeping).
Yeah; 'isn't too much fun' sums it up about right...
gcc, gnome, glibc, et al will be enough to get the ball rolling; particularly vital libraries such as readline which will undoubtably be changed over to use the new license.
Here at slashdot, we've had our own share of faux celebrities drop by...
I'm not anti-FOSS, I'm pro-freedom. Freedom to do whatever it is that you like with the applications on YOUR computer: wether it's watch dvds that I bought off of ebay under loonix or writing applications that only plays legitamately obtained music I should be able to do ANYTHING on my computer.
Screw Stallman and Gates BOTH.
The FSF is managing to kill any possible future that the GPL has in the enterprise all by them selves!
From basements to IT departments, now -with all their anti-drm and anti-patent BS the GPL will go back to it's roots: being used exclusively in the basements of unwashed dorks.
GJ Stallman! Woooooo!
Valid point, independently developed; with you so far....
No real funding, and what did Patterson come up with? A glorified bootloader and crap rip-off of C/PM.
MS bought it and funded it for 14 years and developed it into...a glorified bootloader with a crappy rip-off
of the UNIX heirachal (sp?) file system and very rudimentary memory management.
of the U of C).
Windows was wholly privately funded...and it shows. At least we're well past the BSODs.,
OS X goes back to BSD; no clue about the rest of them
The ones that were the most successful were also the ones that were the shittiest, and yes -were developed without government money.
BSD had plenty of government cash and the freedom to develop in whatever direction they wanted (as opposed to whatever direction the market
dictated) and as a result BSD is the best of the entire lot!
>If you've got more than two brain cells to rub together, you want to opine and argue with your detractors. This is why Kuro5hin.org will always be better than Digg
:)
Fixed your post for you
Of course, the level of discourse was much less sophisticated than /.; hell, no one made so much as one Soviet Russia joke!
You can't get much more psychic than being able to see into the mysterious future!
lol did u tak him 2 da bar|??? ^_^ ;) :-D
It's referring to the fact you won't be able to download from allofmp3.com after sept 1st.
Thank you! It's interesting to note that you can get either Virtual PC 2004 (sp1) or Virtual PC 2005 (sp2).
I'm sure there are other differences, but the largest one I can think of is that Virtual PC 2005 has one more service pack than Virtual PC 2004; Virtual PC 2004 officially runs on Windows 2000 (with sp4) - Virtual PC 2005 requires Server 2003 or (possibly) XP Pro.
With this, apparently I can create new machines, make snapshots and suspend machines to disk. Doesn't making this a free download make vmplayer redundant?
Don't like it? Give up computers. there's no such thing as privacy, get over it.
Shit ain't gonna change so you best figure out a way to cope.