I haven't looked that closely at it; but doesn't the GPL v2 give you the option of using it or any future version? So, any projects currently using version 2 could continue using it after v3 comes out.
It may become a problem with regards to GCC; however, almost everything else put out by the FSF has a bsd-licensed counter-part. So if v3 is completely evil, their will always be {open,free,net}bsd to fall back on.
High quality? Looks more like a bunch of dodgy knock-offs of legitimate software. Oh, and anyone following the links in the parent post might want to be aware that at least one of the links will infect your computer with a virus which will render your computer unable to play games and potentially could prevent you from even BEING ABLE TO BOOT YOUR COMPUTER!
>They are definitly a sweet hardware platform, but why discount Solaris on them (in the title of this "news", by omition?)
I think that when you talk about running other architectures, people are more used to thinking of NetBSD or maybe Linux, both of which have been ported to more platforms than Solaris has (afaik).
If you don't use the processor as the defining quality of "one computer" for the purpose of licensing, then what do you use?
For ages, for the purpose of licensing "one computer" has meant "a box with one cpu in it"; now that we have dual cores what qualityshould the license writers use to distinguish between a license for one computer, and (say) a site license?
I am very glad that I aquired my music collection before the idea of renting music became intrenched. It's so lucrative for the *AA that I can easily see it becoming the only way that you will be able to access music sometime in the net 10 years or so.
That being said, I am not opposed to the concept of renting music *per se*. I don't listen to the radio because of repeitition and low quality. However, I am willing to plop down $6/month for rhapsody to be able to have acts whose cds I don't want to buy (maybe there's only one worthwhile song on there) streamed to my computer when I want to.
However, the whole $0.99/song bit is very dodgy and I agree that there's no signifigant value for paying for songs that you do not really 'own'. I'd rather surf ebay for used music cds, frankly.
I know this is going to come off as flame-bait; so I'll apologize in advance. But given the cheating, the internet fucktard factor and every other shitty factor (people who are working irl will take over your area according to one post here? wtf is that all about?)... why bother playing online?
Between that, and the people who are out in the FPS games who deliberately spoil people's games... there are not anywhere close to enough measures in place to be able to insure a fair and pleasent gaming experience for the casual gamer (read: someone who actually has to work for a living)......is online gaming just some jackass "omg we're so hardcore" avocation or am I missing something that makes the cheaters and invaders and general assholes worth paying cash money to put up with? Because from where I sit (outside, looking in) it looks really, really crappy -- and i certainly wouldn't be willing to pony up any cash to join the crapfest which is online gaming, that's for sure.
The thing is, I just bought a new HP Pavilion PC from wal-mart. Running on 64-bit computers is fine and dandy, but is NetBSD going to recognise my onboard soundcard and video card...or would I have to pour more money down the drain?
if they placed the computers (with the tests) someplace better. As/.ers know, the most important part of computer security is physical access.
Remove the computer (with the tests) to somewhere that only teachers' can go, and you'll mostly eliminate the problem, without resorting to pen and paper.
Frankly, I haven't used my ISP's email regularly since 1999 or so. Instead, I've used yahoo (which already has problesm with people spamming from @yahoo.com and deals with it).
Instead of bringing about some sort of "email meltdown" won't this simply push email into being a web-based service instead of an isp-provided service?
You must not remember that people who read the original Unix code were considered legally tainted.
Yes, just by reading it.
That's a good part of what drove RMS to create the Free Software movement in the first place.
As far as what you remember; it's not the code, it's the algorhithms that the patents cover, and the methods that the programs use, that potentially are the issue.
As far as getting in trouble, it depends on how you define 'trouble'. If someone from ReactOS (just continuing the example) admits to having both submitted code for ReactOS and having (merely) read the source tree for OpenSolaris or portiens thereof it's entirely feasible for Sun to turn around and take the ReactOS foundation to court over any patents that Sun feels that ReactOS infringes on.
Outside of Linux, I can't think of that many OSS projects who can withstand a legal assault, wether they'd be innocent or not.
What truly scares me is the lack of long-term thinking among some open source projects that I keep track of with regards to the CDDL. The best example I can give is that I was reading the forums over at the ReactOS project; and OpenSolaris was mentioned. IIRC, No-one in the entire thread (which was about using some of OS in ROS) mentioned the patent angle...and given that ROS could easily be shut down over it, that omission alarmed me.
OpenSolaris (Or any CDDL project) is a torpedo waiting to sink any GPL project whose members happen to think about looking at CDDL code.
RMS is right on this, and he should be; he crafted the GPL during the days when reading AT&T code carried similar considerations.
Given how expensive new macs are, is there any resources for getting decently new ones used at a good price? I don't mean ebay, either (I've had too many bad experiences with them).
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I haven't looked that closely at it; but doesn't the GPL v2 give you the option of using it or any future version? So, any projects currently using version 2 could continue using it after v3 comes out.
It may become a problem with regards to GCC; however, almost everything else put out by the FSF has a bsd-licensed counter-part. So if v3 is completely evil, their will always be {open,free,net}bsd to fall back on.
I think it's more like "ok, no one's buying our ipv6 idea; let's see what else we can come up with".
High quality? Looks more like a bunch of dodgy knock-offs of legitimate software. Oh, and anyone following the links in the parent post might want to be aware that at least one of the links will infect your computer with a virus which will render your computer unable to play games and potentially could prevent you from even BEING ABLE TO BOOT YOUR COMPUTER!
Remember kids, knowledgeable computer users only use legitimately licensed software!
They are the market leader in CPUs. They don't need apple. Apple may (or may not) need them, but Intel doesn't need them.
Also, wouldn't this alienate Microsoft? I can't see Intel going out of their way to alienate the MS.
And can we get a repost of "surprised by wealth" while we're at it?
who the hell gave the Christian Coalition mod points?
...what percentage of the US believes in life after death.
>They are definitly a sweet hardware platform, but why discount Solaris on them (in the title of this "news", by omition?)
I think that when you talk about running other architectures, people are more used to thinking of NetBSD or maybe Linux, both of which have been ported to more platforms than Solaris has (afaik).
So 11 megs is what? two songs? I guess that means this isn't worth fucking with, then.
oh well, back to kazaa I guess.
people will be harassed and intimidated merely for taking photos of public landmarks!
If you don't use the processor as the defining quality of "one computer" for the purpose of licensing, then what do you use?
For ages, for the purpose of licensing "one computer" has meant "a box with one cpu in it"; now that we have dual cores what qualityshould the license writers use to distinguish between a license for one computer, and (say) a site license?
I am very glad that I aquired my music collection before the idea of renting music became intrenched. It's so lucrative for the *AA that I can easily see it becoming the only way that you will be able to access music sometime in the net 10 years or so.
That being said, I am not opposed to the concept of renting music *per se*. I don't listen to the radio because of repeitition and low quality. However, I am willing to plop down $6/month for rhapsody to be able to have acts whose cds I don't want to buy (maybe there's only one worthwhile song on there) streamed to my computer when I want to.
However, the whole $0.99/song bit is very dodgy and I agree that there's no signifigant value for paying for songs that you do not really 'own'. I'd rather surf ebay for used music cds, frankly.
I can't imagine that there is too much of anything that does bother him; least of all search engine trivia.
I know this is going to come off as flame-bait; so I'll apologize in advance. But given the cheating, the internet fucktard factor and every other shitty factor (people who are working irl will take over your area according to one post here? wtf is that all about?) ... why bother playing online?
... there are not anywhere close to enough measures in place to be able to insure a fair and pleasent gaming experience for the casual gamer (read: someone who actually has to work for a living)... ...is online gaming just some jackass "omg we're so hardcore" avocation or am I missing something that makes the cheaters and invaders and general assholes worth paying cash money to put up with? Because from where I sit (outside, looking in) it looks really, really crappy -- and i certainly wouldn't be willing to pony up any cash to join the crapfest which is online gaming, that's for sure.
Between that, and the people who are out in the FPS games who deliberately spoil people's games
The thing is, I just bought a new HP Pavilion PC from wal-mart. Running on 64-bit computers is fine and dandy, but is NetBSD going to recognise my onboard soundcard and video card...or would I have to pour more money down the drain?
if they placed the computers (with the tests) someplace better. As /.ers know, the most important part of computer security is physical access.
Remove the computer (with the tests) to somewhere that only teachers' can go, and you'll mostly eliminate the problem, without resorting to pen and paper.
Well, they started the email in 1997 or so...how long have you been on the net? ;-)
and what's their contact info?
Frankly, I haven't used my ISP's email regularly since 1999 or so. Instead, I've used yahoo (which already has problesm with people spamming from @yahoo.com and deals with it).
Instead of bringing about some sort of "email meltdown" won't this simply push email into being a web-based service instead of an isp-provided service?
until fairly recently, most PHBs have never heard of 'firefox' or 'mozilla'. Even now, those who have do not have a clue that all three are related.
The do know the name 'netscape', however; and it's a safe, corporate-friendly name (unlike mozilla or firefox).
You must not remember that people who read the original Unix code were considered legally tainted.
Yes, just by reading it.
That's a good part of what drove RMS to create the Free Software movement in the first place.
As far as what you remember; it's not the code, it's the algorhithms that the patents cover, and the methods that the programs use, that potentially are the issue.
As far as getting in trouble, it depends on how you define 'trouble'. If someone from ReactOS (just continuing the example) admits to having both submitted code for ReactOS and having (merely) read the source tree for OpenSolaris or portiens thereof it's entirely feasible for Sun to turn around and take the ReactOS foundation to court over any patents that Sun feels that ReactOS infringes on.
Outside of Linux, I can't think of that many OSS projects who can withstand a legal assault, wether they'd be innocent or not.
What truly scares me is the lack of long-term thinking among some open source projects that I keep track of with regards to the CDDL. The best example I can give is that I was reading the forums over at the ReactOS project; and OpenSolaris was mentioned. IIRC, No-one in the entire thread (which was about using some of OS in ROS) mentioned the patent angle...and given that ROS could easily be shut down over it, that omission alarmed me.
OpenSolaris (Or any CDDL project) is a torpedo waiting to sink any GPL project whose members happen to think about looking at CDDL code.
RMS is right on this, and he should be; he crafted the GPL during the days when reading AT&T code carried similar considerations.
Given how expensive new macs are, is there any resources for getting decently new ones used at a good price? I don't mean ebay, either (I've had too many bad experiences with them).
I've tried this out a couple of times. The quality is that bad, and I didn't find enough reason to continue listening to it beyond those two times.