Yeah, after seeing what Rockstar did with Chinatown Wars, I'd love for them to take a crack at making a Wii-exclusive GTA, even if it means dusting off the San Andreas codebase.
I have GTA4, and like it (though it's nowhere near the review scores), but would love a Wii version for variety. No reason it couldn't kickass, the Wii Godfather is one of the funnest games I've played, and one of the best uses of motion controls.
I think the problem people have when looking at the Wii is trying to make a better or worse comparison. I have all three consoles, and love my Wii not because it's "better" but different. Variety is king.
Oh, I don't doubt there are people who use homebrew for legit purposes and stuff, but I would wager somewhere around 85-95% of people who crack their PSP/DS do so for pirated games/emulation (which is just pirated old games).
Actually, it's reasons like that that using "homebrew" as a euphemism for piracy rather bugs. It's hard to take anyone serious when they say they run homebrew on their PSP/DS.
Yup, "homebrew" has become the new "backup copy" as a euphemism for "pirated games". Pretty much anytime someone says something like "but how will I run my homebrew" or "what about my right to run backup copies", they really mean "pirated games".
It sort of annoys me, because the intellectual dishonesty is so blatant. Especially when I see someone complaining that they can't make (and especially run) a backup copy of something like a DS game.
I don't doubt you, but I would wager that the people you know aren't particularly representative of the gaming community as a whole. (Not that I or any of us really have a great cross-section of anything known to us.)
My experience, with people from my work (Canadian Army) is that every single person who has run custom firmware on the PSP/DS has done so with the intention of running pirated games.
Anyway, in general, people can say what they want about rights to run stuff on their own hardware, etc. As a PSP and DS lover, with around 30+ games for each, I hate custom firmware, and wish Sony and Nintendo the best in locking down the systems.
People can argue all they want that people pirating DS/PSP games don't result in lost sales (I don't buy that, but whatever), but the presence of much PSP/DS piracy appears to be scaring developers away, resulting in less handheld games, particularly for the PSP.:(
Among (several) other reasons, massive piracy is one major cause, IMO, for the large shift away from PC gaming, towards consoles. I don't want to see the same happen to the handhelds.
In most homebrew circles piracy is frowned heavily upon.
Honestly, in my experience with people IRL, every single one of them running custom firmware on their DS or PSP uses it to pirate games. Heck, I'd gotten to the point of where I was almost translating "homebrew" into pirated games.
While there might be a small number of people who actually do run custom firmware and don't pirate games, for the vast majority of the public custom firmware = free gamez. Same as modchips.
While I personally am not terribly interested in it (well, until more details are released), there is certainly a market for it.
The fact that it is download only means you can store a bunch of games on it, so you don't have to lug around a bunch of UMDs. I have a bunch of PSN software on my 8GB memory stick, and it's very convenient. Furthermore, for a new buyer, who doesn't have UMD games, legacy support isn't an issue.
There were also rumors of in-store UMD rippers that would let people rip their UMDs to their drive. Whether this happens or not remains to be seen, though.
Either way, I see this as more than a test case for whether to make the PSP2, where legacy support won't be so much of an issue, disc-drive free or not. If the PSP GO fails, that's a lot less of a loss for Sony than if they make the PSP2 have no disc drive, just to find that no one wants it that way.
And with the average attack rate of PSP software being around 4, last I checked, legacy support is probably not a huge deal. I'm certainly in the minority having 30+ UMD PSP games, plus around 10 more PSN ones. If you consider heavy buyers who would throw the average off, the typical PSP owner probably has 3-5 games, not my 40+.
Because despite the people who get up in arms over how Sony is attempting to crush the poor, innocent "homebrew" community, every single person I know IRL who has run custom firmware has used it to pirate games, and maybe an emulator.
And these are very much lost sales, I've seen people go from regularly buying PSP/DS games to not buying any at all once they discovered they could pirate them.:-/
Yup, 3 Burnout Paradise. I too bought it on impulse, when it was added to the PlayStation Store. Downoaded it, and it's since become one of my favorite PS3 games. I especially love the DLC that added the Ghostbusters car and the General Lee.
The worst bit of it, is they make me think I ENJOY buying the same games over and over! How many times have I bought Super Mario Bros? NES, SNES, GBC, GBA, Wii (actually, twice on the Wii, since I have two).
I'm still not sure how they've managed to get me to buy the same game around five times, and enjoy it and look forward to more (SMB DS!). This feels like an abusive relationship.:(
And for fucks sake, can we please stop beating on 10+ year old technology? I'm sick of hearing retards go on and on about Apple Lisa, Microsoft Bob and a bunch of morons who have to make a 640k joke because they don't understand anything more than that. These are the same asshats who've probably never even touched a machine with less than 128 megs of ram.
Why do I get this feeling you bought a LISA or were a MicrosoftS Bob developer?
I agree with you to a degree, there certainly is a human element that enjoys other people's suffering. Not too complex though, it makes us feel better in comparison.:)
What I meant though, to use an example, is having part of you wish a destructive news event to occur, more for entertainment purposes.
To use an example, back in 2003, (when I was 15) I was a strong supporter of the Iraq war. I made all sorts of justifications based on human rights, WMDs (laugh all you want), Saddam being a dick, etc. The real reason I supported the Iraq invasion in '03 is because I wanted to see a war take place, I wanted exciting footage of missiles hitting Baghdad, I wanted propaganda from both sides, I wanted maps on Wikipedia with how much each side held. Part of me was even disappointed when Baghdad fell quickly. I wanted to see a nasty battle.
Criticise me as a deranged sociopath all you want, but treating the news as entertainment is far from limited to me. Most people dress it up with other reasons though, like I did. The difference is that because I was 15 at the time, I didn't really hide my true motives for supporting the Iraq invasion very far, knowing the whole time I really just wanted a big expensive exciting war drama to be broadcast over CNN.
And for all it affected me at the time, (15, Canadian, knew no Americans, let alone military personnel.), it may as well have been a war movie. Being older, (hopefully) more mature, and knowing several people who have served in Iraq and/or Afghanistan, perhaps my opinion would be a bit different, but at the time, Iraq may have been a war movie to me, and good entertainment.
Yeah, there's certainly a section of the media that wants terrible news to happen. I don't think they consciously or overtly want stuff to happen, but deep inside, I do think that part of them does.
I think it's partially human nature though. I've found myself sort of bugged at times by part of me that wants a war to break out, or a pandemic to happen, or the stock market to tank, etc. I think it comes from oftentimes looking at news as fiction that happens far away. And for the most part it's true. If a war breaks out in Africa, for instance, for the majority of North Americans or whatnot, it may as well be fiction for how little it actually affects them.
tldr; When it doesn't directly harm them, IMO, people often look at news as fiction, and want a more exciting outcome.
Yep, my uncle was on Vioxx, and it was about the only thing that seemed to work for him. When the whole "Vioxx will kill you" thing broke, it was pretty devastating for him, not because he was concerned with having a heart attack or stroke, but because now the only thing that was working for him in dealing with his arthritis was unavailable.
I don't think he outright said it, but I really got the impression that, given a choice, he'd gladly take the risks because his arthritis was so bad, and the Vioxx worked very well.
I'd just like to point out that what is deemed "casual" in World of Warcraft is usually very different from what is deemed casual regarding the Wii.
Actually, in WoW, the term hardcore and casual are thrown around to mean so many different things, they are almost worthless. Before I got bored and quit recently, I was the raid leader and main tank of a medium sized guild. I raided typically 4 hours a day for 3-5 days a week, and spent a quite a bit of time in addition to that farming, PvPing, gearing up guildies in 5-mans, etc.
Your average person would probably call that hardcore, but in WoW, that would be considered casual by many people.
When I imagine a casual Wii player, OTOH, I imagine someone who doesn't spend much time or money playing games, has a Wii, maybe spends a few hours a week playing Wii Sports, Mario Kart Wii, etc, and maybe busts it out for friends. Much different than a WoW casual.
Anyway, the idea that "hardcore" and "casual" gaming are in a zero-sum conflict is silly. Both can and will survive, and there is a huge amount of overlap between the two. "Hardcore" gamers frequently will play a game of Wii Sports now and again for a change of pace, and there's nothing stopping a Wii-loving casual soccer mom from playing Halo 3 on her kid's Xbox 360 once in a while.
Most "hardcore" gamers I know own either all 3 systems, or own a Wii and a 360 or PS3. (I have all 3.) They may grumble about the Wii and casual games from time to time, but most still enjoy a good game of Mario Kart now and then.
I can't say I sympathise with that bloke much. He posted an ad, and the people who responded to it did so under the assumption that it would be confidential. Not the smartest assumption, but a reasonable one nontheless.
Then, he posts the responses, including names. While this doesn't hurt him much, it can easily lead to great embarrassment and potential destruction of reputation for those men.
Regardless of what one thinks of the activities the guys thought they were responding to (sounded weird to me, but I'm a bit of a boring prude), the guy who posted people's identities is an asshat, and I can't say I feel much, or really any sympathy for him. He sounds like little more than an asshat.
On a related note, I hope the asses who post those "feel free to come and take all my stuff" ads on Craigslist, that result in people's houses being stripped down to nothingness, also get sued. Those who respond to them and steal the poor bastard's items, too.
If there's one thing I learned from all my years of playing Crazy Taxi on the Dreamcast, it's that customers will tip more if you nearly get them killed.
I say, let all the taxi drivers play Crazy Taxi for a week, then get back to driving cabs with their new skills. It's bound to get results.
I own all three consoles, and, interestingly, only my Wii has had to be sent in for repair. My PS3 had a small issue with filesystem corruption, but that was easily fixed with the recovery menu (with no data loss, I may add.)
Oddly enough, my 360 (green Halo 3 edition) has been the only system of mine to never have had a problem. Certainly, my experience is an exception though, I know far more people who have had their 360s RROD than anything else.
Actually, I'm the only person I know who has ever had a problem with their Wii. The laser got stuck and wouldn't go up all the way. It could only read Gamecube discs, and Wii games up until the laser had to move.
To be fair, Microsoft has been reasonably good about fixing 360s, and it's cost them quite a bit. I do wonder if MS partially anticipated this, and accepted it in order to get the 360 out a year early.
I wasn't aware of this, it's good info to know, but really no big deal. As long as the game is sold in a new condition, it's fine with me. Really, they have to do this so that employees can be knowledgeable on the products they sell.
Anyway, from my experience, I've bought many games from Gamestop, both new and used. They've all be in fine condition, with most of the used games indistinguishable from a new copy.
Ugh. Read this early in the morning, still haven't had my caffeine yet, and only after reading through all the comments did I realise this was about travel, not hard drives.
After skimming through it, I thought it was talking about a hard drive that stored data in a bubble of faster-than-light speed, using quantum mechanics or something. My first thought was that you'd probably end up with a hard drive where all your data is both there and not there at the same time.
...over stuff like Google Earth and Google Street View. Hell, I'd think people would have a better complaint about Google Earth, as that actually lets people see areas that might not be on a public street.
As it is, I can't understand what the hysteria is about over Google Street View. So, a picture of my house is on the internet. There's a pretty good chance there's an unrelated picture of my house on the internet. Were I to decide to burgle a house that's not on Google Street View, I'd probably just, gasp, drive to it myself and take a look.
Although I do, personally love the "we have money you can't do this to US!" attitude these "affluent" people have.
Unjustified paranoia over this is silly, especially after hearing about all the Government cameras and stuff in the UK.
Such comfort is a far cry from experiments staged in Russia during the Soviet era. During one project in the 1970s, a group of volunteers was strapped to gurneys, tilted at an angle so their heads were 45 degrees below their feet, for six months, as part of a study on the impact of weightlessness on the human body. The volunteers were fed through tubes placed near their mouths.
Well, that's one experiment I sure as hell wouldn't volunteer for.
I wonder if the Soviet "volunteers" were voluntold. Or if they were only told that they were volunteering for a space exploration experiment, not the details. Heh.
Heh. That looks quite similar to my grandma's computer before I despyware'd it. Browser wasn't that clogged up, but it wasn't that far off.
OTOH, she'd managed to get some program that replaced the start button windows logo with some other company's logo. It's sad when the windows start button becomes just another ad.
Yeah, back when I was in high school, I (and others) often had advil or tylenol, for when we got headaches or whatever. I'm unaware of any recreational use for OTC headache drugs, so frankly, I'd be a little concerned over whoever ordered a strip search of a 13 year old girl, and his _real_ motives.
Hell, the "prescription strength" ibuprofen has the strength of 2 advils. Even had she had some, she, uh, takes 1 strong pill instead of 2 weak ones when she has a headache.
This whole case says more about who ordered the search than anything else.
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Yeah, after seeing what Rockstar did with Chinatown Wars, I'd love for them to take a crack at making a Wii-exclusive GTA, even if it means dusting off the San Andreas codebase.
I have GTA4, and like it (though it's nowhere near the review scores), but would love a Wii version for variety. No reason it couldn't kickass, the Wii Godfather is one of the funnest games I've played, and one of the best uses of motion controls.
I think the problem people have when looking at the Wii is trying to make a better or worse comparison. I have all three consoles, and love my Wii not because it's "better" but different. Variety is king.
Oh, I don't doubt there are people who use homebrew for legit purposes and stuff, but I would wager somewhere around 85-95% of people who crack their PSP/DS do so for pirated games/emulation (which is just pirated old games).
Actually, it's reasons like that that using "homebrew" as a euphemism for piracy rather bugs. It's hard to take anyone serious when they say they run homebrew on their PSP/DS.
Yup, "homebrew" has become the new "backup copy" as a euphemism for "pirated games". Pretty much anytime someone says something like "but how will I run my homebrew" or "what about my right to run backup copies", they really mean "pirated games".
It sort of annoys me, because the intellectual dishonesty is so blatant. Especially when I see someone complaining that they can't make (and especially run) a backup copy of something like a DS game.
I don't doubt you, but I would wager that the people you know aren't particularly representative of the gaming community as a whole. (Not that I or any of us really have a great cross-section of anything known to us.)
My experience, with people from my work (Canadian Army) is that every single person who has run custom firmware on the PSP/DS has done so with the intention of running pirated games.
Anyway, in general, people can say what they want about rights to run stuff on their own hardware, etc. As a PSP and DS lover, with around 30+ games for each, I hate custom firmware, and wish Sony and Nintendo the best in locking down the systems.
People can argue all they want that people pirating DS/PSP games don't result in lost sales (I don't buy that, but whatever), but the presence of much PSP/DS piracy appears to be scaring developers away, resulting in less handheld games, particularly for the PSP. :(
Among (several) other reasons, massive piracy is one major cause, IMO, for the large shift away from PC gaming, towards consoles. I don't want to see the same happen to the handhelds.
Little mentioned is that by "multiple platforms" they mean you will NEED multiple platforms to run a single copy of it.
In most homebrew circles piracy is frowned heavily upon.
Honestly, in my experience with people IRL, every single one of them running custom firmware on their DS or PSP uses it to pirate games. Heck, I'd gotten to the point of where I was almost translating "homebrew" into pirated games.
While there might be a small number of people who actually do run custom firmware and don't pirate games, for the vast majority of the public custom firmware = free gamez. Same as modchips.
While I personally am not terribly interested in it (well, until more details are released), there is certainly a market for it.
The fact that it is download only means you can store a bunch of games on it, so you don't have to lug around a bunch of UMDs. I have a bunch of PSN software on my 8GB memory stick, and it's very convenient. Furthermore, for a new buyer, who doesn't have UMD games, legacy support isn't an issue.
There were also rumors of in-store UMD rippers that would let people rip their UMDs to their drive. Whether this happens or not remains to be seen, though.
Either way, I see this as more than a test case for whether to make the PSP2, where legacy support won't be so much of an issue, disc-drive free or not. If the PSP GO fails, that's a lot less of a loss for Sony than if they make the PSP2 have no disc drive, just to find that no one wants it that way.
And with the average attack rate of PSP software being around 4, last I checked, legacy support is probably not a huge deal. I'm certainly in the minority having 30+ UMD PSP games, plus around 10 more PSN ones. If you consider heavy buyers who would throw the average off, the typical PSP owner probably has 3-5 games, not my 40+.
Because despite the people who get up in arms over how Sony is attempting to crush the poor, innocent "homebrew" community, every single person I know IRL who has run custom firmware has used it to pirate games, and maybe an emulator.
And these are very much lost sales, I've seen people go from regularly buying PSP/DS games to not buying any at all once they discovered they could pirate them. :-/
Yup, 3 Burnout Paradise. I too bought it on impulse, when it was added to the PlayStation Store. Downoaded it, and it's since become one of my favorite PS3 games. I especially love the DLC that added the Ghostbusters car and the General Lee.
The worst bit of it, is they make me think I ENJOY buying the same games over and over! How many times have I bought Super Mario Bros? NES, SNES, GBC, GBA, Wii (actually, twice on the Wii, since I have two).
I'm still not sure how they've managed to get me to buy the same game around five times, and enjoy it and look forward to more (SMB DS!). This feels like an abusive relationship. :(
And for fucks sake, can we please stop beating on 10+ year old technology? I'm sick of hearing retards go on and on about Apple Lisa, Microsoft Bob and a bunch of morons who have to make a 640k joke because they don't understand anything more than that. These are the same asshats who've probably never even touched a machine with less than 128 megs of ram.
Why do I get this feeling you bought a LISA or were a MicrosoftS Bob developer?
I agree with you to a degree, there certainly is a human element that enjoys other people's suffering. Not too complex though, it makes us feel better in comparison. :)
What I meant though, to use an example, is having part of you wish a destructive news event to occur, more for entertainment purposes.
To use an example, back in 2003, (when I was 15) I was a strong supporter of the Iraq war. I made all sorts of justifications based on human rights, WMDs (laugh all you want), Saddam being a dick, etc. The real reason I supported the Iraq invasion in '03 is because I wanted to see a war take place, I wanted exciting footage of missiles hitting Baghdad, I wanted propaganda from both sides, I wanted maps on Wikipedia with how much each side held. Part of me was even disappointed when Baghdad fell quickly. I wanted to see a nasty battle.
Criticise me as a deranged sociopath all you want, but treating the news as entertainment is far from limited to me. Most people dress it up with other reasons though, like I did. The difference is that because I was 15 at the time, I didn't really hide my true motives for supporting the Iraq invasion very far, knowing the whole time I really just wanted a big expensive exciting war drama to be broadcast over CNN.
And for all it affected me at the time, (15, Canadian, knew no Americans, let alone military personnel.), it may as well have been a war movie. Being older, (hopefully) more mature, and knowing several people who have served in Iraq and/or Afghanistan, perhaps my opinion would be a bit different, but at the time, Iraq may have been a war movie to me, and good entertainment.
Yeah, there's certainly a section of the media that wants terrible news to happen. I don't think they consciously or overtly want stuff to happen, but deep inside, I do think that part of them does.
I think it's partially human nature though. I've found myself sort of bugged at times by part of me that wants a war to break out, or a pandemic to happen, or the stock market to tank, etc. I think it comes from oftentimes looking at news as fiction that happens far away. And for the most part it's true. If a war breaks out in Africa, for instance, for the majority of North Americans or whatnot, it may as well be fiction for how little it actually affects them.
tldr; When it doesn't directly harm them, IMO, people often look at news as fiction, and want a more exciting outcome.
Bah, we all should know this "swine flu" is actually a well orchestrated distraction from our real threat.
ZOMBIES!
Fear not the Swine Flu pandemic. Fear instead the imminent Zombie pandemic.
Unless of course this is just phase 1...
Yep, my uncle was on Vioxx, and it was about the only thing that seemed to work for him. When the whole "Vioxx will kill you" thing broke, it was pretty devastating for him, not because he was concerned with having a heart attack or stroke, but because now the only thing that was working for him in dealing with his arthritis was unavailable.
I don't think he outright said it, but I really got the impression that, given a choice, he'd gladly take the risks because his arthritis was so bad, and the Vioxx worked very well.
I'd just like to point out that what is deemed "casual" in World of Warcraft is usually very different from what is deemed casual regarding the Wii.
Actually, in WoW, the term hardcore and casual are thrown around to mean so many different things, they are almost worthless. Before I got bored and quit recently, I was the raid leader and main tank of a medium sized guild. I raided typically 4 hours a day for 3-5 days a week, and spent a quite a bit of time in addition to that farming, PvPing, gearing up guildies in 5-mans, etc.
Your average person would probably call that hardcore, but in WoW, that would be considered casual by many people.
When I imagine a casual Wii player, OTOH, I imagine someone who doesn't spend much time or money playing games, has a Wii, maybe spends a few hours a week playing Wii Sports, Mario Kart Wii, etc, and maybe busts it out for friends. Much different than a WoW casual.
Anyway, the idea that "hardcore" and "casual" gaming are in a zero-sum conflict is silly. Both can and will survive, and there is a huge amount of overlap between the two. "Hardcore" gamers frequently will play a game of Wii Sports now and again for a change of pace, and there's nothing stopping a Wii-loving casual soccer mom from playing Halo 3 on her kid's Xbox 360 once in a while.
Most "hardcore" gamers I know own either all 3 systems, or own a Wii and a 360 or PS3. (I have all 3.) They may grumble about the Wii and casual games from time to time, but most still enjoy a good game of Mario Kart now and then.
I can't say I sympathise with that bloke much. He posted an ad, and the people who responded to it did so under the assumption that it would be confidential. Not the smartest assumption, but a reasonable one nontheless.
Then, he posts the responses, including names. While this doesn't hurt him much, it can easily lead to great embarrassment and potential destruction of reputation for those men.
Regardless of what one thinks of the activities the guys thought they were responding to (sounded weird to me, but I'm a bit of a boring prude), the guy who posted people's identities is an asshat, and I can't say I feel much, or really any sympathy for him. He sounds like little more than an asshat.
On a related note, I hope the asses who post those "feel free to come and take all my stuff" ads on Craigslist, that result in people's houses being stripped down to nothingness, also get sued. Those who respond to them and steal the poor bastard's items, too.
If there's one thing I learned from all my years of playing Crazy Taxi on the Dreamcast, it's that customers will tip more if you nearly get them killed.
I say, let all the taxi drivers play Crazy Taxi for a week, then get back to driving cabs with their new skills. It's bound to get results.
I own all three consoles, and, interestingly, only my Wii has had to be sent in for repair. My PS3 had a small issue with filesystem corruption, but that was easily fixed with the recovery menu (with no data loss, I may add.)
Oddly enough, my 360 (green Halo 3 edition) has been the only system of mine to never have had a problem. Certainly, my experience is an exception though, I know far more people who have had their 360s RROD than anything else.
Actually, I'm the only person I know who has ever had a problem with their Wii. The laser got stuck and wouldn't go up all the way. It could only read Gamecube discs, and Wii games up until the laser had to move.
To be fair, Microsoft has been reasonably good about fixing 360s, and it's cost them quite a bit. I do wonder if MS partially anticipated this, and accepted it in order to get the 360 out a year early.
I wasn't aware of this, it's good info to know, but really no big deal. As long as the game is sold in a new condition, it's fine with me. Really, they have to do this so that employees can be knowledgeable on the products they sell.
Anyway, from my experience, I've bought many games from Gamestop, both new and used. They've all be in fine condition, with most of the used games indistinguishable from a new copy.
Ugh. Read this early in the morning, still haven't had my caffeine yet, and only after reading through all the comments did I realise this was about travel, not hard drives.
After skimming through it, I thought it was talking about a hard drive that stored data in a bubble of faster-than-light speed, using quantum mechanics or something. My first thought was that you'd probably end up with a hard drive where all your data is both there and not there at the same time.
Ugh. Need. More. Tea.
...over stuff like Google Earth and Google Street View. Hell, I'd think people would have a better complaint about Google Earth, as that actually lets people see areas that might not be on a public street.
As it is, I can't understand what the hysteria is about over Google Street View. So, a picture of my house is on the internet. There's a pretty good chance there's an unrelated picture of my house on the internet. Were I to decide to burgle a house that's not on Google Street View, I'd probably just, gasp, drive to it myself and take a look.
Although I do, personally love the "we have money you can't do this to US!" attitude these "affluent" people have.
Unjustified paranoia over this is silly, especially after hearing about all the Government cameras and stuff in the UK.
Such comfort is a far cry from experiments staged in Russia during the Soviet era. During one project in the 1970s, a group of volunteers was strapped to gurneys, tilted at an angle so their heads were 45 degrees below their feet, for six months, as part of a study on the impact of weightlessness on the human body. The volunteers were fed through tubes placed near their mouths.
Well, that's one experiment I sure as hell wouldn't volunteer for.
I wonder if the Soviet "volunteers" were voluntold. Or if they were only told that they were volunteering for a space exploration experiment, not the details. Heh.
Heh. That looks quite similar to my grandma's computer before I despyware'd it. Browser wasn't that clogged up, but it wasn't that far off.
OTOH, she'd managed to get some program that replaced the start button windows logo with some other company's logo. It's sad when the windows start button becomes just another ad.
Yeah, back when I was in high school, I (and others) often had advil or tylenol, for when we got headaches or whatever. I'm unaware of any recreational use for OTC headache drugs, so frankly, I'd be a little concerned over whoever ordered a strip search of a 13 year old girl, and his _real_ motives.
Hell, the "prescription strength" ibuprofen has the strength of 2 advils. Even had she had some, she, uh, takes 1 strong pill instead of 2 weak ones when she has a headache.
This whole case says more about who ordered the search than anything else.