Better safe that sorry again. Hot from the press (G-Translate):
The Japanese authorities began today with the closure of a nuclear power plant about 200 kilometers southwest of the capital, Tokyo. The power company Chubu announced Friday that one of the reactors at the Hamaoka plant is shut down and the electricity is stopped.
The Hamaoka plant is in the Tokai region near a fault line and is therefore vulnerable to earthquakes, according to experts. Japanese Prime Minister Naoto Kan urged last week to the closure of the plant, eight weeks after the earthquake and tsunami that caused a nuclear disaster at the nuclear plant I Fukushima, north of Tokyo.
I simply don't find panicking or overreacting to be worth it. It's not an impossible situation at this point, just an annoying one in the long term. Everything I've seen shows the situation at Fukushima to be under control although it will take a long time to fully clean up. No one is dying, no is being sickened and in general it's stable. I suppose I lack an irrational fear of radiation. I have more worry for families of the tens of thousands who died (or are still unaccounted for) from the earthquake and tsunami. And the hundreds of thousands who are homeless.
I don't see any panicking. Perhaps a bit of panic would have helped here. Over 3 weeks time the situation changed from a big problem to a Chernobyl size problem. I don't call that "under control". Japan is just a bit smaller than the US and it's just a bit more densely populated. I wouldn't call a 30 mile radius area that's evacuated and possibly uninhabitable for the years to come "just annoying". That problem could still be there long after all the homeless have new houses.
Amazing, when you decide explicitly to not clean up an area and just leave everything there (literally, all the contaminated equipment was just left there) it doesn't magically clean itself up. Who would have guessed. That's why you bury it somewhere out of the way.
It's not just the power plant. Animals in a wider area are radio active as well, so are the plants, so is the ground. Even if you wanted to clean it up, it's impossible.
We spend millions the next many years cleaning up this garbage and burying it, hoping it's safe.
More like tens of billions, TMI was well over a billion and that was rather small scale.
That's the case with all radiative material. As I've said before, it's nothing new and it's done routinely for radioactively contaminated material. Radiation doesn't go away, eventually you need to store something for a long time even if everything works perfectly.
Most of the stuff at Fukushima is not that radioactive, you don't ant to stand near it for a few weeks but it won't kill you instantly. Beyond the power plant itself it's not even that much. The core and fuel are a concern but they'd have been one even if nothing happened.
You keep amazing me with the way you marginalize the situation.
It's one problem after another over there. It will be mixed with other stuff. I don't think they will be able to put the molten stuff back together and reuse it like that.
I know they didn't dismantle Chernobyl. I also know 25 years later it's still a problem. You say it's "just" a question of time and money. True. 25 years later the Chernobyl area is still polluted. In the Fukushima area they also found pollution and not inly in the water. It will also take years before that;s gone. and fyi that has nothing to do with being paranoid. Nuclear reactors are quite safe, but when we fuck up the results are rather big. That too has nothing to do with being paranoid or not.
Back to Fukushima. We spend millions the next many years cleaning up this garbage and burying it, hoping it's safe. In Germany they also buried a lot of nuclear waste years ago. When they sent in a robot recently they found leaking containers that were supposed to be safe. You can't bury it and forget about it. We created a pile of waste that requites monitoring and maintenance for years to come.
Like they dismantled Chernobyl? And then? Store it where? Leaving it there and bury it or storing it and staying the hell away from it is really the only thing you can do for the next 5000+ years. Hooray for us all:(
Writing unit tests costs time. It probably makes a difference what kind of application you're writing, but 10% I find, well, "very fast". For the last big application I worked on writing coding v.s. unit tests was about 50-50. You have to think about input conditions, test them, expected outcomes, unexpected outcomes, conditions for exceptions and so on.
There was more than enough complex math involved that without them, development would have been impossible. Regression testing saved our asses in more than one occasion. Having unit tests saved time in those occasions indeed. But not before we write the tests and prepared the datasets that are needed for them.
Together with other self-imposed processes like documenting and reviews, this lead to an application that has a minimum of bugs in it and a very satisfied customer.
We make quite specialized business applications. Part of the training here is "when in doubt, use C4." I mean "ask questions". Asking for help is always better than finding out you should have asked for help:)
Here the biggest part of the solution is understanding the problem. After that, coding the solution is relatively easy. Still code reviews of their work is mandatory...
We're not a large company, but big enough to be able to spend time educating the juniors. They are productive within 2 - 3 weeks. But at junior level:)
basically: we try to figure out if the candidates will be able to pick up new knowledge. Indicators can be: - a broad interest in technical stuff, - being able to handle difficult topics ("interesting" graduation projects), - being able to structure a problem in order to solve it -...
And new people start with a 6 month contract so if things are not what we expected, there is the option to not extend the contract...
We hire inexperiences developers regularly. They're called JUNIOR DEVELOPERS and they require extra time. That's why they make less money than a medior or senior developer.
As far as I remember, there is a reason to pay taxes. Of course that is unless you want to pay every time you use a public road, pay the fire brigade right before they extinguish your house, pay the police to keep your neighbourhood safe. Actually we pay for those things. It's called taxes. Pay them. And vote for people who spend them wisely.
Unless you live in California. Then the whole state goes bankrupt because the people don't want to pay taxes.
Or, that biodiversity is a good thing and therefore men, having x and y chromosomes.... Or that gristians actively live according to The Word of Darwin by breeding like rabbits.
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Ships. *moves post from 3rd monitor to 2nd monitor*
Better safe that sorry again. Hot from the press (G-Translate):
The Japanese authorities began today with the closure of a nuclear power plant about 200 kilometers southwest of the capital, Tokyo. The power company Chubu announced Friday that one of the reactors at the Hamaoka plant is shut down and the electricity is stopped.
The Hamaoka plant is in the Tokai region near a fault line and is therefore vulnerable to earthquakes, according to experts. Japanese Prime Minister Naoto Kan urged last week to the closure of the plant, eight weeks after the earthquake and tsunami that caused a nuclear disaster at the nuclear plant I Fukushima, north of Tokyo.
I simply don't find panicking or overreacting to be worth it. It's not an impossible situation at this point, just an annoying one in the long term. Everything I've seen shows the situation at Fukushima to be under control although it will take a long time to fully clean up. No one is dying, no is being sickened and in general it's stable. I suppose I lack an irrational fear of radiation. I have more worry for families of the tens of thousands who died (or are still unaccounted for) from the earthquake and tsunami. And the hundreds of thousands who are homeless.
I don't see any panicking. Perhaps a bit of panic would have helped here.
Over 3 weeks time the situation changed from a big problem to a Chernobyl size problem. I don't call that "under control". Japan is just a bit smaller than the US and it's just a bit more densely populated. I wouldn't call a 30 mile radius area that's evacuated and possibly uninhabitable for the years to come "just annoying". That problem could still be there long after all the homeless have new houses.
Amazing, when you decide explicitly to not clean up an area and just leave everything there (literally, all the contaminated equipment was just left there) it doesn't magically clean itself up. Who would have guessed. That's why you bury it somewhere out of the way.
It's not just the power plant. Animals in a wider area are radio active as well, so are the plants, so is the ground. Even if you wanted to clean it up, it's impossible.
We spend millions the next many years cleaning up this garbage and burying it, hoping it's safe.
More like tens of billions, TMI was well over a billion and that was rather small scale.
That's the case with all radiative material. As I've said before, it's nothing new and it's done routinely for radioactively contaminated material. Radiation doesn't go away, eventually you need to store something for a long time even if everything works perfectly.
Most of the stuff at Fukushima is not that radioactive, you don't ant to stand near it for a few weeks but it won't kill you instantly. Beyond the power plant itself it's not even that much. The core and fuel are a concern but they'd have been one even if nothing happened.
You keep amazing me with the way you marginalize the situation.
It's one problem after another over there. It will be mixed with other stuff. I don't think they will be able to put the molten stuff back together and reuse it like that.
I'd love to believe that, but if it looks like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Pictureofchernobyllavaflow.jpg I doubt it...
If they intend to, please post some links. I'd like to know how they're going to do that..
You don't know me, so don't pretend you know me.
I know they didn't dismantle Chernobyl. I also know 25 years later it's still a problem.
You say it's "just" a question of time and money. True. 25 years later the Chernobyl area is still polluted. In the Fukushima area they also found pollution and not inly in the water. It will also take years before that;s gone. and fyi that has nothing to do with being paranoid. Nuclear reactors are quite safe, but when we fuck up the results are rather big. That too has nothing to do with being paranoid or not.
Back to Fukushima. We spend millions the next many years cleaning up this garbage and burying it, hoping it's safe. In Germany they also buried a lot of nuclear waste years ago. When they sent in a robot recently they found leaking containers that were supposed to be safe. You can't bury it and forget about it. We created a pile of waste that requites monitoring and maintenance for years to come.
Ok. 150 years. For reactor 1. Now for the plutonium reactor...
Like they dismantled Chernobyl? And then? Store it where? :(
Leaving it there and bury it or storing it and staying the hell away from it is really the only thing you can do for the next 5000+ years. Hooray for us all
It's just a 30 mile radius area that is inhabitable for the next let's say 5000 years? So who gives a shit, right?
Writing unit tests costs time. It probably makes a difference what kind of application you're writing, but 10% I find, well, "very fast". For the last big application I worked on writing coding v.s. unit tests was about 50-50. You have to think about input conditions, test them, expected outcomes, unexpected outcomes, conditions for exceptions and so on.
There was more than enough complex math involved that without them, development would have been impossible. Regression testing saved our asses in more than one occasion. Having unit tests saved time in those occasions indeed. But not before we write the tests and prepared the datasets that are needed for them.
Together with other self-imposed processes like documenting and reviews, this lead to an application that has a minimum of bugs in it and a very satisfied customer.
We make quite specialized business applications. Part of the training here is "when in doubt, use C4." I mean "ask questions". :)
Asking for help is always better than finding out you should have asked for help
Here the biggest part of the solution is understanding the problem. After that, coding the solution is relatively easy. Still code reviews of their work is mandatory...
Convert them all from feet to centimeters :)
What kind of training program do you have for your co-ops?
If there is enough "supply" this sounds interesting. I can imagine this could work well in a scrum environment.
We're not a large company, but big enough to be able to spend time educating the juniors. They are productive within 2 - 3 weeks. But at junior level :)
basically: we try to figure out if the candidates will be able to pick up new knowledge. ...
Indicators can be:
- a broad interest in technical stuff,
- being able to handle difficult topics ("interesting" graduation projects),
- being able to structure a problem in order to solve it
-
And new people start with a 6 month contract so if things are not what we expected, there is the option to not extend the contract...
We hire inexperiences developers regularly. They're called JUNIOR DEVELOPERS and they require extra time. That's why they make less money than a medior or senior developer.
and I'll be the porn provider king for the entire neighbourhood...
That "As long as I don't see it, it isn't there" attitude :)
What do they want if for?
Probably a very interesting article, but I have no time to read it.
I've got to feed my cows and plant some roses.
As far as I remember, there is a reason to pay taxes.
Of course that is unless you want to pay every time you use a public road, pay the fire brigade right before they extinguish your house, pay the police to keep your neighbourhood safe.
Actually we pay for those things. It's called taxes. Pay them. And vote for people who spend them wisely.
Unless you live in California. Then the whole state goes bankrupt because the people don't want to pay taxes.
Or, that biodiversity is a good thing and therefore men, having x and y chromosomes....
Or that gristians actively live according to The Word of Darwin by breeding like rabbits.
call somebody?? Maybe 4 people at the same time with quad core?