My hotmail account is awash in spam, I have never used the account. Simply amazing. I really think we are going about the spam issue the WRONG way, however. Hear me out. We are hellbent on shooting (drawing/quartering) the messengers. The messengers are ever-changing, fraudulent, pieces of crap that forge everything from the originating IP to the recipients address. But all Spam has one thing in common. Content. All spam is trying to get you to buy some product or service. The only reason spammers do what they do is because it's MAD profitable. Why? Because the content's originator makes it that way. I propose we turn this massive gun we call "public outcry" towards the TRUE originators of all the spam: The people who construct the content, or pay the spammers. If spamming becomes unprofitable, it will stop. Spammers aren't doing it to be malicious, they are monetarily motivated! Stop the source of the money, and stop the spammer. Order one of those mini-hovercraft RC things, find out who it ships from, then sic your lawyers on them. Buy that Viagra from an online pharmaceutical, find out where it ships from, then set the coordinates on your lawyer-launcher. Go after AT&T, Discover, Home lending companies. Your email address, once harvested, is like the freakin village bicycle! It gets passed around so much, you have no CLUE as to who grabbed it orginally, nor does it matter since so many other spammers have it! It's a vicious circle, and I say go after the TRUE SOURCE!
Does this make sense to anyone else, or should I drink some more coffee and calm down?
- OrbNobz If I had a nickel for every spam I received, I'd...be...getting...paid, thus part of the problem! Ack!
There are two rather easy ways of doing this: 1) Ever purchase any insecticides or herbicides? Ever notice how they have a fold-out flap of information that is part of the label right on the bottle? I refer to these every time to be sure I'm buying the right stuff. How about MS (et al) putting a foldout flap with the EULA right on the box?
2) Even better! How about the store purchase just ONE copy of the software they sell, and print a hardcopy of the EULA, laminate it, and put it in a conspicuous place, say, right in front of the shelf that holds the software? That way, the customer could not complain, and MS would have NO say over the matter (Unless, of course, the EULA itself is copyrighted...).
- OrbNobz Putting up with coworkers driving bass, while dealing with a migraine. Oh Monday, how you mock me!
I have found the best way to have fun with telemarketers: Mindgames.
I'll share this one, please share me yours:
TM: Is this Mr. (Mispronounce name)? ME: Yep. TM: Hi, I'm calling on behalf of (insert department store name here) and I'd like to give you a free month of life insurance which... ME: (Quietly, but getting louder) Oh crap, it's you. My psychiatrist said you wouldn't bother me anymore! (Usually they've stopped talking and are listening by now.) He LIED to me! (Sniff) I can't beLIEVE THIS! I tried to tell them to s-s-stop, (snuffle) but they wouldn't LISTEN! (Helps is your mouth is frothing at this point.) I'll... show... YOU! You damn people will never be able to call me...AGAIN! (Play recording of gunshot Really Loud, drop the phone, walk away.) ***Extra Credit: Have the kids run in the room a minute later screaming DADDY! and BLOOD! and start sobbing/crying loudly. If the police or EMTs show up, tell them you put the phone up to the TV. Guaranteed to make one telemarketer leave their career.
See? Fun. The aim is to make them feel some emotion, guilt being the best, but laughter works well too. Try convinving them you have the mental capacity of a 4 year old. Really. Make it very obvious that you are expecting something completely different than what they are selling. Get all offended at something they say turning it into a racial/gender/age/religion slander case. Go televangelist on them.
Happy mindgames.
- Orbnobz Wasting 60 minutes of your time...in about an hour.
>...This will allow a lot of options, such as... controlling remote equipment from the guitar...
No Bob! You _double_-pluck G to turn on the distortion! Idiot!
- OrbNobz Who said that??? Dammit! Who said that?!?
Re:Intuit's activation scheme is a VERY serious is
on
TurboTax Activation Fiasco
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· Score: 2, Informative
Unfortunately, TaxCut has some very serious problems internally, and their tech support is completely incompetent.
Case in point:
Last tax year, I had some pre-tax income set aside for dependant care (flex plan) not fully realizing what it was. Well, box 10 was showing a number on my W2, and I filled in the amount in TaxCut. TaxCut then forces you to fill out form 2441 listing what institutions you payed for dependent care. In my case, I didn't. So in reality, I would not file that form. However, TaxCut will not allow you to delete form 2441.
TaxCut's answer? Start a new tax return... from scratch. I asked them to send me a patch that would allow me to delete the form since I had already spent over 20 hours working on the return. "We'll consider that for future versions". In other words..."Take a hike, sir."
My response? "I won't be using TaxCut again. Thanks for wasting my time." YMMV - Maybe try TaxAct, although my bottom line varied with the more mainstream programs.
- OrbNobz Filling up 60 minutes of your time... in about an hour.
Sargon (yeah!!) Lunar Lander (course I remember this on magnetic tape for that old TI calculator as well). Then there was a third I can't remember, think it was an adventure game on a few tapes. Help me out out, someone.
I'm not a member, but I have found a whole bunch of items I have researched before on this online forum. I think it's only useful for Home and Garden items, but I haven't looked here from the start before. I usually start at epinions, get some ideas, model numbers, etc., then I plug the model numbers into Google and look for more reviews that way. I'm still looking for a free version of Consumer Reports website...
- OrbNobz In Soviet Russia...We are belong to all your base.
This is a great idea! I could see using this as a method of backup. I had a job building large numbers of servers with RAID 1 configurations. Rather than install FreeBSD over and over again (same exact hardware), I mirrored one correct installation, then broke the RAID, used the extra drive to build a new RAID system or as a standalone (non-RAID controller didn't know any better). Rinse and repeat. Simplicity. This procedure sure beat the tape restore method that was in place previously. I would have to say this is even faster than a HDD copy station, since you can make many masters very fast.
Everyone is missing the whole point of this discussion/event/conspiracy theory. By majority of comments posted here are merely to malign or otherwise insult the people who think the event was faked. I begin to wonder if anyone here even HAS an open mind anymore, or if they've all turned to mindless sheep (obligatory Dilbert reference). Why would you accept something as rote simply because your self-biased government said so? I personally think a healthy dose of skepticism is needed today. It always strikes me as funny how so many people subscribe fully to the moon landing, then turn around and refuse to believe that the Bible is God's Word (or something else that is based wholly on belief).
I think it goes hand-in-hand with university level education today. Today's system teaches vocational trades. It no longer teaches people how to think for themselves. Did you know that all doctorates used to be in Philosophy or the art of thinking clearly? It is still called a PhD to this day. Hence, very few people know how to think logically. I am not saying that I know how to think properly either, but at least I know the problem is there.
Do you think it's beyond our government to deceive you? Do you think the goverment has nothing to hide? The point of this post, this discussion, this conspiracy theory, is to get you to logically and scientifically deduce the truth from the chaff. It is an exercise in skepticism. Don't get angry that someone debates your postion and resort to name-calling, defend it. Debate is a wonderfull tool for being able to see an issue from all sides, sharpening your mind, and learning something you didn't fully understand before. I am merely asking that you accept the possibilities, and not damn them because they are not what you believe.
Both items you mention above (Microwaves, and Nuclear Power Plants) are both easily accessible (albeit a bit restricted regarding the latter), and therefore fairly easy to test. Herein lies the key: physical accessibility. Go down to your local plant and take a geiger counter with you. You will find there is plenty of shielding. See that metal screen in the door of your microwave? Adequate screening of microwaves. Stop being fecetious and prove your point. Show me NASA's radiation measurements from the crew compartment during the traversal. Spike? That might be good evidence. But since NASA is on the receiving end of the controversy, can you use the information NASA gathered as evidence?
If I tell you I have built a vehicle, that by travelling through dimension 10, can pass through a mountain, you would want proof. Visual proof, proof from readings, eyewitnesses, etc. I tell you to check out Buckaroo Bonzai at your video store, as it documents the event. You watch my video documentary and tell me, "That's just a movie". Precisely.
- OrbNobz In every scientific experiment, the same results must be reproduced every time. The moon landing has not been reproduced...yet.
Prove that they did. That is the point of this whole topic. What gives you your conviction that these men travelled through the Van Allen Belt? Perhaps you could convince me. As someone so much more tactfully put it, it was the speed of which the astronauts travelled through it that saved their bacon. You don't prove a point by saying that it happened because you were _told_ "It happened". We're talking unbiased, third-party emperical evidence, man! I'm not saying it did _not_ occur, I'm only saying, fully convince me it did, as there exists a shadow of a doubt. If you weren't so busy trying to ridicule than actually proving your point, you might get a less scathing response in the future.
- OrbNobz I hate it when people are redundant, repetitive, and say the same thing over, and over, and over again!
I never had any reason to doubt this event growing up. Then I heard about the conspiracy angle, checked out all the material (movies, books, forums), and I am now in the 'undecided' category. For me, the most convincing "evidence" supportng the conspiracy theory is the radiation belt, and NASA's inability (even at present IIRC) to send any living thing through it without receiving a lethal dose. Most of the other facts are hit or miss, and pretty subjective.
To think that the government doesn't hide anything is lunacy. To think that the government doesn't lie is naive. What needs to be provided here is indisputable proof of the event. This was a scientific event and therefore must be (re)proven scientifically. Even when the private sector comes forward with photographic evidence of abandoned Apollo equipment, I still would not be 100% convinced. To be honest, I don't know what it would take to prove beyond a doubt that Niel Armstrong set foot on the moon. It might be easier to provide _real_ evidence to the contrary.
Am I alone in this vein of thought?
- OrbNobz If a sig falls in a forum and noone is around to read it, was it really written?
NetBank Pros____ - 3% interest check (no fee) - VERY picky about it's users - no min balance - free bill pay - free checks / ATM usage - free envelopes
Cons____ - VERY picky about it's users (read perfect credit) - they used to have 6% interest on checking (no fee) - very poor customer service reviews - ranked like 7 in Gomez.com reviews of net banking
YMMV- I went with Wingspan but STILL want an account with these folks as well.
- OrbNobz
Ever have one of those feelings someone is reading your posts?
Slashdot Mirror
I just tried this in GoGlobal 1.63:
bash$ echo -e "\e]2;This is the new window title\a"
2;This is the new window title
Dunno, maybe it's a different code number.
Somebody let me know...
YMMV
- OrbNobz
Finding more and more people obsequious, obstreperous, and ubiquitous.
Intel's "Tejas" processor will do away with pins entirely, making swapping out a new processor quite literally a snap.
I'm sorry, "processor" and "literally a snap" do not belong in the same sentence.
- OrbNobz
"I'm gonna sing the Doom song..." - Gir
None of thier links from the main page work.
All child pages went 404.
FYI
My hotmail account is awash in spam, I have never used the account. Simply amazing.
I really think we are going about the spam issue the WRONG way, however. Hear me out.
We are hellbent on shooting (drawing/quartering) the messengers. The messengers are ever-changing, fraudulent, pieces of crap that forge everything from the originating IP to the recipients address. But all Spam has one thing in common. Content.
All spam is trying to get you to buy some product or service.
The only reason spammers do what they do is because it's MAD profitable. Why? Because the content's originator makes it that way.
I propose we turn this massive gun we call "public outcry" towards the TRUE originators of all the spam: The people who construct the content, or pay the spammers.
If spamming becomes unprofitable, it will stop. Spammers aren't doing it to be malicious, they are monetarily motivated! Stop the source of the money, and stop the spammer.
Order one of those mini-hovercraft RC things, find out who it ships from, then sic your lawyers on them. Buy that Viagra from an online pharmaceutical, find out where it ships from, then set the coordinates on your lawyer-launcher. Go after AT&T, Discover, Home lending companies.
Your email address, once harvested, is like the freakin village bicycle! It gets passed around so much, you have no CLUE as to who grabbed it orginally, nor does it matter since so many other spammers have it! It's a vicious circle, and I say go after the TRUE SOURCE!
Does this make sense to anyone else, or should I drink some more coffee and calm down?
- OrbNobz
If I had a nickel for every spam I received, I'd...be...getting...paid, thus part of the problem! Ack!
There are two rather easy ways of doing this:
1) Ever purchase any insecticides or herbicides? Ever notice how they have a fold-out flap of information that is part of the label right on the bottle? I refer to these every time to be sure I'm buying the right stuff. How about MS (et al) putting a foldout flap with the EULA right on the box?
2) Even better! How about the store purchase just ONE copy of the software they sell, and print a hardcopy of the EULA, laminate it, and put it in a conspicuous place, say, right in front of the shelf that holds the software? That way, the customer could not complain, and MS would have NO say over the matter (Unless, of course, the EULA itself is copyrighted...).
- OrbNobz
Putting up with coworkers driving bass, while dealing with a migraine. Oh Monday, how you mock me!
More useful would be figuring out:
a) Why we yawn.
b) Why, when we yawn, does it cause someone ELSE to yawn.
c) What can I do to STOP yawning.
I swear, every time I'm reading my toddlers their books, I start yawning like crazy. Irritating, that.
In response to the article though: fish huh? Uhhhhh... Ok, buddy. Back to the drawing board then?
- OrbNobz
Warning: Your sig has expired. Please enter a new one:
I have found the best way to have fun with telemarketers: Mindgames.
I'll share this one, please share me yours:
TM: Is this Mr. (Mispronounce name)?
ME: Yep.
TM: Hi, I'm calling on behalf of (insert department store name here) and I'd like to give you a free month of life insurance which...
ME: (Quietly, but getting louder) Oh crap, it's you. My psychiatrist said you wouldn't bother me anymore! (Usually they've stopped talking and are listening by now.) He LIED to me! (Sniff) I can't beLIEVE THIS! I tried to tell them to s-s-stop, (snuffle) but they wouldn't LISTEN! (Helps is your mouth is frothing at this point.) I'll... show... YOU! You damn people will never be able to call me...AGAIN! (Play recording of gunshot Really Loud, drop the phone, walk away.)
***Extra Credit: Have the kids run in the room a minute later screaming DADDY! and BLOOD! and start sobbing/crying loudly.
If the police or EMTs show up, tell them you put the phone up to the TV. Guaranteed to make one telemarketer leave their career.
See? Fun. The aim is to make them feel some emotion, guilt being the best, but laughter works well too. Try convinving them you have the mental capacity of a 4 year old. Really. Make it very obvious that you are expecting something completely different than what they are selling. Get all offended at something they say turning it into a racial/gender/age/religion slander case. Go televangelist on them.
Happy mindgames.
- Orbnobz
Wasting 60 minutes of your time...in about an hour.
>...This will allow a lot of options, such as ... controlling remote equipment from the guitar...
No Bob!
You _double_-pluck G to turn on the distortion!
Idiot!
- OrbNobz
Who said that??? Dammit! Who said that?!?
Unfortunately, TaxCut has some very serious problems internally, and their tech support is completely incompetent.
Case in point:
Last tax year, I had some pre-tax income set aside for dependant care (flex plan) not fully realizing what it was. Well, box 10 was showing a number on my W2, and I filled in the amount in TaxCut. TaxCut then forces you to fill out form 2441 listing what institutions you payed for dependent care. In my case, I didn't. So in reality, I would not file that form. However, TaxCut will not allow you to delete form 2441.
TaxCut's answer? Start a new tax return... from scratch. I asked them to send me a patch that would allow me to delete the form since I had already spent over 20 hours working on the return. "We'll consider that for future versions". In other words..."Take a hike, sir."
My response? "I won't be using TaxCut again. Thanks for wasting my time."
YMMV - Maybe try TaxAct, although my bottom line varied with the more mainstream programs.
- OrbNobz
Filling up 60 minutes of your time... in about an hour.
On my TRS-80....
Sargon (yeah!!)
Lunar Lander (course I remember this on magnetic tape for that old TI calculator as well).
Then there was a third I can't remember, think it was an adventure game on a few tapes. Help me out out, someone.
- OrbNobz
In Soviet Russia...The bombs set up Us!
I'm not a member, but I have found a whole bunch of items I have researched before on this online forum. I think it's only useful for Home and Garden items, but I haven't looked here from the start before.
I usually start at epinions, get some ideas, model numbers, etc., then I plug the model numbers into Google and look for more reviews that way.
I'm still looking for a free version of Consumer Reports website...
- OrbNobz
In Soviet Russia...We are belong to all your base.
This is a great idea! I could see using this as a method of backup.
I had a job building large numbers of servers with RAID 1 configurations. Rather than install FreeBSD over and over again (same exact hardware), I mirrored one correct installation, then broke the RAID, used the extra drive to build a new RAID system or as a standalone (non-RAID controller didn't know any better). Rinse and repeat. Simplicity. This procedure sure beat the tape restore method that was in place previously. I would have to say this is even faster than a HDD copy station, since you can make many masters very fast.
- OrbNobz
Wherever you go, there you are. -BB
My wife laughs at me because I try and look around 2D corners!
- OrbNobz
Wreckin it, cuz it's fun.
Somebody a little grouchy this morning? :)
Everyone is missing the whole point of this discussion/event/conspiracy theory.
...Says who?
By majority of comments posted here are merely to malign or otherwise insult the people who think the event was faked. I begin to wonder if anyone here even HAS an open mind anymore, or if they've all turned to mindless sheep (obligatory Dilbert reference). Why would you accept something as rote simply because your self-biased government said so? I personally think a healthy dose of skepticism is needed today. It always strikes me as funny how so many people subscribe fully to the moon landing, then turn around and refuse to believe that the Bible is God's Word (or something else that is based wholly on belief).
I think it goes hand-in-hand with university level education today. Today's system teaches vocational trades. It no longer teaches people how to think for themselves. Did you know that all doctorates used to be in Philosophy or the art of thinking clearly? It is still called a PhD to this day. Hence, very few people know how to think logically. I am not saying that I know how to think properly either, but at least I know the problem is there.
Do you think it's beyond our government to deceive you? Do you think the goverment has nothing to hide? The point of this post, this discussion, this conspiracy theory, is to get you to logically and scientifically deduce the truth from the chaff. It is an exercise in skepticism. Don't get angry that someone debates your postion and resort to name-calling, defend it. Debate is a wonderfull tool for being able to see an issue from all sides, sharpening your mind, and learning something you didn't fully understand before. I am merely asking that you accept the possibilities, and not damn them because they are not what you believe.
- OrbNobz
Question Authority!
My psychiatrist told me I was un-balanced.
Would this help me?
- OrbNobz
Live from the Total Perspective Vortex
Everquest
(sigh)
Now you're just being silly.
Both items you mention above (Microwaves, and Nuclear Power Plants) are both easily accessible (albeit a bit restricted regarding the latter), and therefore fairly easy to test. Herein lies the key: physical accessibility. Go down to your local plant and take a geiger counter with you. You will find there is plenty of shielding. See that metal screen in the door of your microwave? Adequate screening of microwaves. Stop being fecetious and prove your point. Show me NASA's radiation measurements from the crew compartment during the traversal. Spike? That might be good evidence. But since NASA is on the receiving end of the controversy, can you use the information NASA gathered as evidence?
If I tell you I have built a vehicle, that by travelling through dimension 10, can pass through a mountain, you would want proof. Visual proof, proof from readings, eyewitnesses, etc. I tell you to check out Buckaroo Bonzai at your video store, as it documents the event. You watch my video documentary and tell me, "That's just a movie". Precisely.
- OrbNobz
In every scientific experiment, the same results must be reproduced every time. The moon landing has not been reproduced...yet.
Prove that they did. That is the point of this whole topic. What gives you your conviction that these men travelled through the Van Allen Belt? Perhaps you could convince me. As someone so much more tactfully put it, it was the speed of which the astronauts travelled through it that saved their bacon. You don't prove a point by saying that it happened because you were _told_ "It happened". We're talking unbiased, third-party emperical evidence, man! I'm not saying it did _not_ occur, I'm only saying, fully convince me it did, as there exists a shadow of a doubt. If you weren't so busy trying to ridicule than actually proving your point, you might get a less scathing response in the future.
- OrbNobz
I hate it when people are redundant, repetitive, and say the same thing over, and over, and over again!
I never had any reason to doubt this event growing up. Then I heard about the conspiracy angle, checked out all the material (movies, books, forums), and I am now in the 'undecided' category. For me, the most convincing "evidence" supportng the conspiracy theory is the radiation belt, and NASA's inability (even at present IIRC) to send any living thing through it without receiving a lethal dose. Most of the other facts are hit or miss, and pretty subjective.
To think that the government doesn't hide anything is lunacy. To think that the government doesn't lie is naive. What needs to be provided here is indisputable proof of the event. This was a scientific event and therefore must be (re)proven scientifically. Even when the private sector comes forward with photographic evidence of abandoned Apollo equipment, I still would not be 100% convinced. To be honest, I don't know what it would take to prove beyond a doubt that Niel Armstrong set foot on the moon. It might be easier to provide _real_ evidence to the contrary.
Am I alone in this vein of thought?
- OrbNobz
If a sig falls in a forum and noone is around to read it, was it really written?
I wonder if I can bill them for every attempt to access my firewall since it is consuming my bandwidth... ...Theft of service anyone?
This is not the sig you are looking for...
NetBank
Pros____
- 3% interest check (no fee)
- VERY picky about it's users
- no min balance
- free bill pay
- free checks / ATM usage
- free envelopes
Cons____
- VERY picky about it's users (read perfect credit)
- they used to have 6% interest on checking (no fee)
- very poor customer service reviews
- ranked like 7 in Gomez.com reviews of net banking
YMMV- I went with Wingspan but STILL want an account with these folks as well.
- OrbNobz
Ever have one of those feelings someone is reading your posts?
Offer to sell your domain name for, say, USD1000 less than they are paying the lawyers to harrass you!
They make out, you make out.
Of course, you'ld be selling out and succumbing to the corporate goliath. Pilfering a principal for some petty pocket cash...some might say.
OrbNobz
- I hate it when people are redundant, repetitive, and say the same thing over, and over, and over again.
the information that is 'travelling' between the pair of photons is without mass.
If it has no mass, then it couldn't be called matter...then I guess it doesn't matter!
So why bother sending it in the first place?
OrbNobz
- I hate people that are redundant, repetitive, and say the same thing over, and over, and over again!
Might as well research those ultraviolet lasers.
Hell, why not an X-Ray laser?