Too lazy to google to fix your ignorance, but there have already been several studies that looked into second hand vape and have come to the conclusion that anything found in the air is in such trace amounts that it poses no risk.
As I understood it, the juice will still be legal to sell so long as it goes through an FDA approval for each Nic level of the juice, supplied in glass bottles, and is sealed. Besides how much money it would cost for the testing, this is pretty much a non issue, and plenty in the industry say is a good way to knock out the shady suppliers and manufacturers.
Where did it ever say that non-nicotine flavorings are being deemed a tobacco product? Its just a flavor extract in PG or VG... If its true, this is also the exact reason why most people are fighting against the regulations. While some would be good, coming down with an iron fist like this and crippling an industry is just terrible.
On a more humorous note, one of the vape shops said they would just sell their juice as personal flavored lubricants. Just add nic yourself.
The eCig is regularly put into conditions where no sane human would use them. The issue when using a device to do a 5 second draw (try it, its not easy when trying to inhale out of something with almost no air flow), with no word of factors like coil resistance, how hard the air was drawn through the system (inhale too hard, it wont wick fast enough), coil metal type, etc. Combine that with the fact that nobody uses that style anymore (eGo with a cardo tank, which require a much higher level of PG so it can wick properly), and you have a study that is entirely worthless.
The people chucking huge clouds are actually the EXACT people that would have temp control units. Almost every new mod that has come out with some sort of control system on it has had TC. The only people that wouldn't are working with mechanical mods, but those have fallen out of fashion in the past year or two. Everyone running sub box/dual bat box mods now.
Taking a look at the pictures from the article, they are using eGo style battery with OG bottom feeder tank. Typically stuff you cant buy from US companies anymore and are all imported from China and only sold at the most bootleg of shops. You get very small clouds with those devices.
There are two industries in the eCig business. The ones you find at tobacco shops and gas stations, and the ones where you go to a legitimate shop. Every legitimate shop I have gone to only carries known brands that are open about their production practices and gives breakdowns of what is in their juice. This includes how the flavors are extracted, mixture of PG/VG, and any kind of flavoring that may be added. Most of the major brands are made in labs, and are tested to verify that they meet certain standards.
This study is looking into the stuff you get at tobacco shops and gas stations. The seedy shit. We've had someone roll into a shop I go to with something that said it was 24MG/mL of nic, saying they were craving cigarettes like they had just quit. I dropped a tiny bit on my hand and licked a bit off of it. 24MG/mL should have made my tongue go numb instantly. It did nothing. I vaped a tiny bit of it and it was probably closer to.5-1.5MG/mL. THAT stuff needs to get taken off the shelf. The problem with self regulation is that it doesn't force all the companies to join up.
Back to buying shit from the Philippines like I had to back in the day when I wanted a new mod or atty. I just hope they don't regulate the purchase of pure nicotine powder or diluted nicotine liquid so I can at least home brew my juice.
Its funny that US studies are the only ones coming to these conclusions. Add in the fact that they are using outdated, Chinese models also brings up another boatload of reasons to doubt the study. Everyone I know uses either mechanical or box mods, usually running sub 3.5v. Notice the actual resistance of the coils was never stated? That is something that should have been controlled for. Running 4.5v though a low resistance coil is going to burn the fuck out of the mrtal, wicks, and the juice, bringing the vape into a state that would never be achieved through normal operation.
I won't deny that, but I was just pointing out the error in GPs use of statistics. The point was that when shootings are adjusted for police encounters, things even out quite a bit.
And yet you're here. Posting on/. not contributing anything more than opinions on things that, in the long run, don't matter. Speaking of all the useless things you could do....
Everything I've read about the auto pilot feature states that you need to have your hands on the wheel at all times. There is even a fucking nag prompt for you to hold the steering wheel.
Typically drug addiction goes hand in hand with other things like abusive homes, poverty, and mental illness. Drug addiction is usually the symptom of a larger problem.
I've hit over 100gb in a month with another 10GBP feathering and I never heard crap from them. Still was running a full 75mbps connection speed through all the usage.
You are completely off the mark. There are two betting systems - One you bet on games to earn tokens to level up your Compendium (which gives non-tradeable, not marketable items), or you get charms that you get 3/5 matches right, you get a pretty cheap (read: worthless) skin. Neither of these systems net you anything other than crap to your account.
From what I read, its really only 4k for video and the menu systems anyways. The console is supposed to hit 1080p/60FPS on demanding games which is a monstrous improvement over the current gen consoles. Its really not a bad buy, but the 4k claim is very misrepresented.
It would be closer to $1000. If not more. For 30 FPS 4k gaming, you need a 980 TI (or possibly a 1070 depending on how it actually benchmarks). Add in a better CPU to be able to handle a GPU that is that powerful, and you already hit double the price without factoring in any other parts. Then you would have to consider how much heat a box like that is generating. So no, its not 4k gaming at even double the PS4 price.
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Too lazy to google to fix your ignorance, but there have already been several studies that looked into second hand vape and have come to the conclusion that anything found in the air is in such trace amounts that it poses no risk.
As I understood it, the juice will still be legal to sell so long as it goes through an FDA approval for each Nic level of the juice, supplied in glass bottles, and is sealed. Besides how much money it would cost for the testing, this is pretty much a non issue, and plenty in the industry say is a good way to knock out the shady suppliers and manufacturers.
Where did it ever say that non-nicotine flavorings are being deemed a tobacco product? Its just a flavor extract in PG or VG... If its true, this is also the exact reason why most people are fighting against the regulations. While some would be good, coming down with an iron fist like this and crippling an industry is just terrible.
On a more humorous note, one of the vape shops said they would just sell their juice as personal flavored lubricants. Just add nic yourself.
The eCig is regularly put into conditions where no sane human would use them. The issue when using a device to do a 5 second draw (try it, its not easy when trying to inhale out of something with almost no air flow), with no word of factors like coil resistance, how hard the air was drawn through the system (inhale too hard, it wont wick fast enough), coil metal type, etc. Combine that with the fact that nobody uses that style anymore (eGo with a cardo tank, which require a much higher level of PG so it can wick properly), and you have a study that is entirely worthless.
The people chucking huge clouds are actually the EXACT people that would have temp control units. Almost every new mod that has come out with some sort of control system on it has had TC. The only people that wouldn't are working with mechanical mods, but those have fallen out of fashion in the past year or two. Everyone running sub box/dual bat box mods now.
Taking a look at the pictures from the article, they are using eGo style battery with OG bottom feeder tank. Typically stuff you cant buy from US companies anymore and are all imported from China and only sold at the most bootleg of shops. You get very small clouds with those devices.
There are two industries in the eCig business. The ones you find at tobacco shops and gas stations, and the ones where you go to a legitimate shop. Every legitimate shop I have gone to only carries known brands that are open about their production practices and gives breakdowns of what is in their juice. This includes how the flavors are extracted, mixture of PG/VG, and any kind of flavoring that may be added. Most of the major brands are made in labs, and are tested to verify that they meet certain standards.
.5-1.5MG/mL. THAT stuff needs to get taken off the shelf. The problem with self regulation is that it doesn't force all the companies to join up.
This study is looking into the stuff you get at tobacco shops and gas stations. The seedy shit. We've had someone roll into a shop I go to with something that said it was 24MG/mL of nic, saying they were craving cigarettes like they had just quit. I dropped a tiny bit on my hand and licked a bit off of it. 24MG/mL should have made my tongue go numb instantly. It did nothing. I vaped a tiny bit of it and it was probably closer to
Back to buying shit from the Philippines like I had to back in the day when I wanted a new mod or atty. I just hope they don't regulate the purchase of pure nicotine powder or diluted nicotine liquid so I can at least home brew my juice.
Its funny that US studies are the only ones coming to these conclusions. Add in the fact that they are using outdated, Chinese models also brings up another boatload of reasons to doubt the study. Everyone I know uses either mechanical or box mods, usually running sub 3.5v. Notice the actual resistance of the coils was never stated? That is something that should have been controlled for. Running 4.5v though a low resistance coil is going to burn the fuck out of the mrtal, wicks, and the juice, bringing the vape into a state that would never be achieved through normal operation.
I won't deny that, but I was just pointing out the error in GPs use of statistics. The point was that when shootings are adjusted for police encounters, things even out quite a bit.
There are other factors to control for such as crime rate and police interactions per racial group.
And yet you're here. Posting on /. not contributing anything more than opinions on things that, in the long run, don't matter. Speaking of all the useless things you could do....
Everything I've read about the auto pilot feature states that you need to have your hands on the wheel at all times. There is even a fucking nag prompt for you to hold the steering wheel.
Typically drug addiction goes hand in hand with other things like abusive homes, poverty, and mental illness. Drug addiction is usually the symptom of a larger problem.
I've hit over 100gb in a month with another 10GBP feathering and I never heard crap from them. Still was running a full 75mbps connection speed through all the usage.
I've done 84 gigs in one month. Thank god for true unlimited data.
According to NPR yesterday, they have radar as well for proximity warning. Tesla hasn't commented on why that failed.
You are completely off the mark. There are two betting systems - One you bet on games to earn tokens to level up your Compendium (which gives non-tradeable, not marketable items), or you get charms that you get 3/5 matches right, you get a pretty cheap (read: worthless) skin. Neither of these systems net you anything other than crap to your account.
Sorry for double post, but use your head. It still costs arou d $2000 for 4k gaming on a PC. What makes you think a $400 console could handle it?
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From what I read, its really only 4k for video and the menu systems anyways. The console is supposed to hit 1080p/60FPS on demanding games which is a monstrous improvement over the current gen consoles. Its really not a bad buy, but the 4k claim is very misrepresented.
It would be closer to $1000. If not more. For 30 FPS 4k gaming, you need a 980 TI (or possibly a 1070 depending on how it actually benchmarks). Add in a better CPU to be able to handle a GPU that is that powerful, and you already hit double the price without factoring in any other parts. Then you would have to consider how much heat a box like that is generating. So no, its not 4k gaming at even double the PS4 price.
I wish I had mod points for this.
Its not 4k gaming, though. Think about what that requires for PC... There is no way they could get a console at a reasonable price that could do that.
Most running some kind of variable resolution.
Its not gaming in 4k. Only video and menu output. Games are still going to be 1080p.